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If it wasn't for the puppy dumping I think I would actually hate  Dorit the least of all these bitches How weird is that. And is it possible that I hate Teddy even more than Rhinna? Probably only because Rhinna has been relatively uncharacteristicly quiet tonight

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1 hour ago, Neurochick said:

I have a different take on Camille.  I think the women all have an agreement to not say certain things about each other on camera.  Camille comes out and just spills all the tea; and the woman are all like OMG.  Denise said she doesn't scream at her kids, when unseen footage showed otherwise.  

The Atlanta and New York Housewives go off on each other, while Beverly Hills doesn't, that's why this franchise is boring to me.  No tea.

Denise said she doesn't curse at her children, which is what Camille accused her of. Denise never said she doesn't scream at them when they try her patience. It's possible to scream without using profanity.

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2 minutes ago, DivaLasVegas82 said:

I wonder if Camille is subconsciously taking out the anger she feels towards Kesley on the other woman. It's clear that both of them can't seem to let go of their negative feelings towards each other, even though they both are now married other people.

They really should if they're both ideally happily married to other people...

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50 minutes ago, Maire said:

Andy must really be pissed at Lisa for not showing up because he had all the clips and comments against her on the tip of his tongue.

Maybe.  However, I suspect he had this all ready to go because he suspected she wasn't going to show.  I'm not saying we wouldn't have seen some of what we've seen but I doubt we would have seen so much archival footage to indict Lisa. 

16 minutes ago, Dutchgirl said:

Lisa can't unilaterally fire an employee of a charitable foundation. She is not their employer. 

I'd have to see her bylaws. It really depends on who she is and who he is in the org.  But 3 out of 4 members of the VDP Dogs are members of Lisa's family so I do think she'd get whatever she wanted. 

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2 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

Kyle was born in January 1969, so, her memories of 1969 in that movie ad were especially poignant.

LoL. When she was talking about how magically the year 1969 was, I was saying to myself, "How would you know? You were still in diapers."

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2 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Is Dorit actually trying to claim the basketball and the bowling ball in a tube sock are real?

I believe she said "that is all I have done to my face (or head)"  which would leave out those ridiculous boobs she insists on flaunting at every opportunity.  Even in the clips by Bravo, they insist on showing her in that awful talking head with the black bando meshy thing.  GADZOOKS that is ugly

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1 minute ago, Door County Cherry said:

I'd have to see her bylaws but it really depends on who she is and who he is.  But 3 out of 4 members of the VDP Dogs are members of Lisa's family so I do think she'd get whatever she wanted. 

There would be no bylaws of a charitable foundation that would allow a board member to fire an employee. A majority board vote could recommend the termination of an employee...it would be up to the ED to carry it out, but such a vote would also be a vote of non-confidence of the EDs leadership and any ED worth his salt would resign after such a board decision. 

Having said that, I think VPD runs a little more casual than a normal foundation and John wasn't fired because they all thrive on the drama and nonsense. It's par for the course. 

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6 minutes ago, oceanview said:

I believe she said "that is all I have done to my face (or head)"  which would leave out those ridiculous boobs she insists on flaunting at every opportunity.  Even in the clips by Bravo, they insist on showing her in that awful talking head with the black bando meshy thing.  GADZOOKS that is ugly

Dorit's openly talked about having her breasts done. The only one without enhanced breasts is Kyle. 

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10 minutes ago, Door County Cherry said:

Maybe.  However, I suspect he had this all ready to go because he suspected she wasn't going to show.  I'm not saying we wouldn't have seen some of what we've seen but I doubt we would have seen so much archival footage to indict Lisa. 

I suspect that the LvP stuff is what they would have used if she showed up.  Because LvP didn't film, they needed archival footage for them to argue about.

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2 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

You didn’t want any of these women at your wedding but you wanted Kyle to be a brides maid? Camille is trapped and trying ANYTHING to claw her way out. You’re such a fucking liar Camille 

I never understood why she wanted Kyle in the first place.  I don't think Kyle did either.  Doesn't she have any close friends for the job?    

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2 minutes ago, oceanview said:

I never understood why she wanted Kyle in the first place.  I don't think Kyle did either.  Doesn't she have any close friends for the job?    

It locked in filming for the show IMO.  I can't think of any other reason.

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44 minutes ago, oceanview said:

I never understood why she wanted Kyle in the first place.  I don't think Kyle did either.  Doesn't she have any close friends for the job?    

Nope she has no close friends shown on this show ever  only “employees” well expect that psycho psychic what’s her name. even during her first seasons she didn’t have girlfriends/friends  she had her “assistants” it’s always been kinda weird. The other ladies at least had some people around them that they didn’t seem to have on permanent  payroll that seemed to actually be their friends  Camille never had that. It might have something to do with her ego being the size of California it’s self and no one being good enough for her to grace them with her friendship. When you are better then everyone else it makes it hard to connect to the low plebes below you. Everyone around her has always been less then or beneath her “socially” or “economically” I mean honestly who can’t  identify with the horror that she had to endure by buying a vintage Burberry coat from a second hand store. ***screams in poor people*** What is she an animal? 

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9 minutes ago, oceanview said:

I believe she said "that is all I have done to my face (or head)"  which would leave out those ridiculous boobs she insists on flaunting at every opportunity.  Even in the clips by Bravo, they insist on showing her in that awful talking head with the black bando meshy thing.  GADZOOKS that is ugly

RIP the CHA and NEL earrings. I hope your new owner got them "gently used, 50% off" and Dorit is stuck with store credit. 

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29 minutes ago, dosodog said:

Monty from McGootsville is jumping for joy at Kyle's shade.

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So anyone who isn't from BH who mentions Kyle's legal issues is a hick with a dumb name? Right up there with Rinna's rage tweets @ RHOBH fans.

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Well, that was interesting. I am glad that it was brought up that LVP did not bother to ask Dorit who she gave Lucy to, or ask for a phone number and address to follow up on where Lucy was. As I have said all along, LVP was the original puppy dumper.

The reason she did not fire John Blizzard (or have Sessa do it since he is the ED of VP Dogs) is because Blizzard was doing exactly what LVP asked him to do, including the scene where he fell on the sword for LVP and said he put words in her mouth. As if. Lol. 

It appears though that VP Dogs should be looked at a little more closely, given the now latest time Lisa or an organization that bears her name has been sued. An employee being told to forge cheques, and then being fired for doing what they were told? Shady, shady, shady. Maybe things are more lax in the states, but as someone who is on the board of directors of an animal charity,  we have strict laws and regulations that must be followed to the letter. Forgery would definitely be a no-no. But then, none of us on the board would have to be told that. It is kind of common sense - unless you are either an idiot or underhanded, or both. 

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28 minutes ago, AttackTurtle said:

Like hell, husbands don’t sign up for the show.    Mauricio has taken every opportunity possible to advertise The Agency on this show.  Even the house in question was featured prominently on the show.  PK has used it to promote Boy George.  Edwin has used it to promote his security company.  

Erika brags about her husband’s money....he and his lawsuits are fair game.  

I agree the husbands are fair game but to watch someone be outed and shamed over their financial issues is embarrassing to watch imo. 

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9 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

It appears though that VP Dogs should be looked at a little more closely, given the now latest time Lisa or an organization that bears her name has been sued. An employee being told to forge cheques, and then being fired for doing what they were told? Shady, shady, shady. Maybe things are more lax in the states, but as someone who is on the board of directors of an animal charity,  we have strict laws and regulations that must be followed to the letter. Forgery would definitely be a no-no. But then, none of us on the board would have to be told that. It is kind of common sense - unless you are either an idiot or underhanded, or both. 

Actually, it isn't forgery. You can sign a check on someone's behalf (with expressed consent) as an authorized representative. Forgery implies fraud. If she was writing checks she didn't have permission to write, then yes, that's forgery but that doesn't appear to be the case. 

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20 minutes ago, Dutchgirl said:

I agree the husbands are fair game but to watch someone be outed and shamed over their financial issues is embarrassing to watch imo. 

Outed is a bit of a stretch as all of the referenced issues have been in the news; however I have to be honest I quit watching the show weeks ago.   I only saw clips tonight on WWHL.

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3 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

What is with the faces Camille is making? 

Camille seems to have lost her ever loving mind.  Why was she undressing when she walked off the set?  That was very strange.  And she insists they were ganging up on her as she's spewing insult after insult at them.  She's one of those people who can see the filmed footage and still swear it was something completely different.  I know one thing for sure though.  She's met her match with Denise.  Denise don't play that!

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1 minute ago, AttackTurtle said:

Outed is a bit of a stretch as all of the referenced issues have been in the news; however I have to be honest I quit watching the show weeks ago.   I only saw clips tonight on WWHL.

Dorit was blindsided. Camille brought it up out of nowhere. It's fine, whatever, I can't stand Dorit but all this gotcha crap is tired. RHOBH needs more mini ponies, dream vacations and house porn and less petty drama, fake tears and constant demands for apologies. 

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23 minutes ago, Dutchgirl said:

Actually, it isn't forgery. You can sign a check on someone's behalf (with expressed consent) as an authorized representative. Forgery implies fraud. If she was writing checks she didn't have permission to write, then yes, that's forgery but that doesn't appear to be the case. 

According to legal documents, she as Operations Manager was told to sign John Sessa's name to all cheques. She was then reprimanded by the VP of Operations for doing so. So apparently the VP of Operations didn't think it was all fine and dandy. The matter was resolved she thought and she did not continue to sign cheques. 

A week later she left work an hour early due to anxiety, and ended up hospitalized on a 5150 hold. Sessa told her to take a few days off with pay to relax. When she went back to work, Sessa told her that the the cheque situation and the 5150 hold were "a perfect storm" and not the best time for her to be acting as manager. The next day she was sent a termination notice which specifically stated the cheque incident. 

The woman thinks she was fired due to her "perceived mental disability" from the 5150 hold and the cheque situation was used as an excuse. She is suing for discrimination and wrongful termination. 

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Just now, UsernameFatigue said:

According to legal documents, she as Operations Manager was told to sign John Sessa's name to all cheques. ...

I read the same article. She had permission to sign, thus no forgery. The new VP of Operations said no more, which is fine but the manager did nothing wrong, nor did Sessa by allowing her to sign his name. Firing someone directly after a medical leave, however, that's a bit stickier...

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1 minute ago, Sarah Heart said:

Dorit is playing it safe. I'd lay odds on it, that PK got the story out to ROL. He's a gambler, and has been laying low. I think about her false accent, about her drinking and yelling at Camille in front of her fiancé, and she wants/needs to be on this show, next season.

Rinna is sleazy, I've disliked her for some time. I'd watch if Rinna and Teddi were off this show, because the puppy dumper needs to feel how LVP felt this season. In fact, I'd relish it.

Yes. Although I really don't enjoy watching any of them you're right, Rhinna and Teddy are the worst of the lot. Teddy because she's so self righteous humorless and annoying, like a gnat, and Rhinna because she really is vicious. So vicious.

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21 minutes ago, Dutchgirl said:

I read the same article. She had permission to sign, thus no forgery. The new VP of Operations said no more, which is fine but the manager did nothing wrong, nor did Sessa by allowing her to sign his name. Firing someone directly after a medical leave, however, that's a bit stickier...

I didn't read anywhere that it was a "new" VP of Operations. And if you sign for someone else, you must write p.p. beside the name so it is known that it is not actually that person who has signed. It doesn't seem like she was told this, or why would she be reprimanded? And if it was all hunky dory, how can Sessa now use the cheque incident as a reason for letting her go? He never said anything in the letter about her medical leave, which was hardly a leave in any case since she was only gone a few days and he is the one who told her to take the time off.

All in all Sessa appears to be in over his head as ED, which doesn't surprise me. From what I have seen of him he is shady AF. 

Edited to add - I don't know what California laws are like, but where I live there is a Human Rights Tribunal that you can access if you have been fired without procedures being followed, especially where medical concerns are involved. If that were to happen where I live it would most likely cost the organization a nice chunk of change. 

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2 minutes ago, izabella said:

Except Dorit lied.  We saw, on the show this season, that phone call with Dorit where LVP specifically asked the name of the person Dorit gave the dog to so Vanderpump Dogs could follow up, and Dorit suddenly got all vague and wouldn't/couldn't provide the name.  Dorit lied.

LVP lies as much as Dorit does. But LVP supposedly was just fine with Dorit, and did not pursue anything. She said specifically on air that she didn't want to talk about it. Because SHE dropped the ball. Then she used whoever she could to get back at Dorit rather than confront her herself. I have no idea why she did not have Lucy's back, but she definitely did not. 

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1 minute ago, Sarah Heart said:

No and way. For someone that adores animals, she might be shady now and then, but puppy dumper, nope.

LVP should have known more than anyone that Dorit and PK were not suitable owners for a small puppy. They could not even take care of their own children when they were small without multiple nannies. LVP adopted out not one but two dogs to them. I am with an animal rescue charity and we are very strict as to who we adopt our rescued animals to. Dorit and PK would never be considered, with two still small children. 

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3 hours ago, Neurochick said:

Denise said she goes off on them when she's pissed.  Denise acted like she didn't say that at the reunion.  I think what gets Camille is that the women all talk shit about each other OFF CAMERA, and then when Camille confronts them, they're like, "Oh, no I didn't say that."  Kyle admitted it when said LVP told her, "once it's out there, it's out there."  

I think these women are VERY careful what they say on camera, ever since that mess happened when Brandi supposedly said something about, Adrianne I think.

It was about Adrienne using a surrogate.

On a later season, all season long, the other women didn't bring up drunk Brandi's tampon string hanging out for the world to see. They kept quiet until the reunion when she was so over the top unrepentantly nasty.

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14 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

I didn't read anywhere that it was a "new" VP of Operations. And if you sign for someone else, you must write p.p. beside the name so it is known that it is not actually that person who has signed. It doesn't seem like she was told this, or why would she be reprimanded? And if it was all hunky dory, how can Sessa now use the cheque incident as a reason for letting her go? He never said anything in the letter about her medical leave, which was hardly a leave in any case since she was only gone a few days and he is the one who told her to take the time off.

All in all Sessa appears to be in over his head as ED, which doesn't surprise me. From what I have seen of him he is shady AF. 

One article says a "new" supervisor told her to stop signing checks, another article claims the VP of Operations told her to stop. Sounds like the VP of Operations came on board and put a stop to it. Also sounds like the VP of Operations is a little histrionic and threw around the "forgery" word...Sessa has no idea what he's doing and would likely deny he gave the manager permission. Idiot.

"Dr" Sessa is miserably prepared to be an ED. Not sure about his professional experience but his doctorate is from Argosy, which is apparently closed due to going into receivership and doesn't appear to have accreditation.

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27 minutes ago, Giselle said:

It was about Adrienne using a surrogate.

On a later season, all season long, the other women didn't bring up drunk Brandi's tampon string hanging out for the world to see. They kept quiet until the reunion when she was so over the top unrepentantly nasty.

haha, the surrogacy and the tampon. Poor Brandi was so random, she had no clue how to be fake. They'd gossip and talk shit about each other off-camera then smile when the cameras started rolling and she would just explode into a puff of incoherent insults. 

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4 hours ago, nexxie said:

I think Kyle and Teddi bonded for three main reasons:

-Kyle acts as kind of a hostess, and took Teddi under wing to help with clothes, etc.

-They have a lot of laughs together.

-They bonded over being over responsible types who are working on that.

I like them together - and it’s true, Kyle finally gets to be the big sister.

Naw, it’s because Vyle Kyle gets to be the top.

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4 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

I didn't read anywhere that it was a "new" VP of Operations. And if you sign for someone else, you must write p.p. beside the name so it is known that it is not actually that person who has signed. It doesn't seem like she was told this, or why would she be reprimanded? And if it was all hunky dory, how can Sessa now use the cheque incident as a reason for letting her go? He never said anything in the letter about her medical leave, which was hardly a leave in any case since she was only gone a few days and he is the one who told her to take the time off.

All in all Sessa appears to be in over his head as ED, which doesn't surprise me. From what I have seen of him he is shady AF. 

Edited to add - I don't know what California laws are like, but where I live there is a Human Rights Tribunal that you can access if you have been fired without procedures being followed, especially where medical concerns are involved. If that were to happen where I live it would most likely cost the organization a nice chunk of change. 

I think this is probably true of the Blizzard situation as well.  This is all guessing on my part, but I bet John Sessa was very solidly behind the plan to tell Teddi, to show the dog, etc.  I think it's likely that he was telling Blizzard what to do, and that is why Blizzard perceived it all as coming from Lisa.  And if true, Blizzard would not be someone Lisa would fire in that whole scenario.  Nor would she want to out that Sessa was behind the scheming and phone calls. 

I don't think any of them (Sessa, Blizzard or LVP) were behind the ROL story, though.  I think that was a separate issue, from a separate camp. 

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6 hours ago, movingtargetgal said:

I think she was trying to get the mic pack off and that is why she looked like she was stripping as she walked away. Camille was angry and frustrated and wanted out of there.  I can't say that I blame her.

I know she was trying to get the mic pack off and I doubt she thought she was being filmed doing it, but she still practically ripped her dress off in the room when dressing rooms and other closed doors are all nearby and available.  We can agree to disagree on whether this makes her look angry or completely out of control.

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6 hours ago, Dutchgirl said:

So anyone who isn't from BH who mentions Kyle's legal issues is a hick with a dumb name? Right up there with Rinna's rage tweets @ RHOBH fans.

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As much as I can't stand Lisa Rinna, I don't think that account is hers.  No blue checkmark next to the name.

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7 hours ago, Callaphera said:

How else is Camille supposed to rip off the microphone pack that's taped to the inside of her dress so that she can toss it down on the ground in a proper reality TV reunion storm off huff? That's, like, Storming Off Set 101. Kyle and Teddi may not understand what a "performance persona" is but I bet even they know that. 

Ugh, if I never hear the words "performance persona" again, it will be too soon. The ONLY thing I will ever agree with Kyle on is how talking about Erica in third person is ridiculous (she didn't say that--but I am pretty sure it was implied!) Dumb as F**K. I wish Erica would disappear...if anyone is fake it's her, I don't think she likes anyone much less these "ladies".

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4 minutes ago, chlban said:

Of course not, there is no woman. Dorit is a liar.

That she didn't give either of them the name of the "lovely woman" is shady as hell. This was well before any publicity, any leaked stories, any filming.

John Sessa also claimed somewhere (don't recall if it was in the interview I listened to) that in the first communication from the dog shelter, the shelter worked said (in a phone message or email or contact form on the website -- don't remember) a reality celebrity had brought the dog in.  He did seem mightily pissed though, I remember that.  

6 minutes ago, JD5166 said:

Ugh, if I never hear the words "performance persona" again, it will be too soon. The ONLY thing I will ever agree with Kyle on is how talking about Erica in third person is ridiculous (she didn't say that--but I am pretty sure it was implied!) Dumb as F**K. I wish Erica would disappear...if anyone is fake it's her, I don't think she likes anyone much less these "ladies".

Jelica Jayne agrees! 😉

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