Girls Next Door

[RealHousewife]

On 3/14/2023 at 11:30 AM, dariafan said:

It was really interesting to hear Anastasia’s view on life there.  And glad she is okay

Agree. Even though I didn't love certain approaches of the interview, I did really enjoy it overall. Anastasia is lovely, and I'm glad she's doing well. 

3 hours ago, qtpye said:

Since we talked about Pam Anderson on this forum I am going to post a picture of Pam opening a runway show.

Thank you. I'm definitely a Pam fan. She gets a lot of crap, but I think she is so sweet and has a great sense of humor about herself. 

[RealHousewife]

Anyone here listening to Girls Next Level?

So I'm a big fan of both Holly and Bridget. They're two of my fave celebs, and I recommend their podcast to any GND fan. I don't blame them if they call out any of the abuse they endured and discuss their trauma. I also think both come across as good people on GND, and they worry a lot over very minor things. 

My one criticism is how they speak about Kendra. I'm not saying they have to pretend she was/is an angel, but I feel like they can be a pretty rough on her. She was in her late teens/early 20s during her time as a girlfriend, and she had the least stable upbringing. They're now women in their 40s. I get that a mid20s Holly may look at Kendra and not see her as scarcely more than a kid, but you'd think she would now that she's her 40s. 

In one of the earlier podcasts, Holly called Hef Kendra's meal ticket as if he weren't for her as well. I think Holly still gets judged unfairly a lot for stuff she did when she was very young. I think she's a good person, not a gold digger, and wound up in a situation where she was in over her head. But why not give the youngest girlfriend a little grace?

It's funny, I was reminded why Kendra was initially my favorite. I grew to like Holly and Bridget more because I could relate to them more in their girly girl ways. But Kendra came across as more real, and I don't think it was editing.

Edited May 24 by RealHousewife

[LemonSoda]

5 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

Anyone here listening to Girls Next Level?

So I'm a big fan of both Holly and Bridget. They're two of my fave celebs, and I recommend their podcast to any GND fan. I don't blame them if they call out any of the abuse they endured and discuss their trauma. I also think both come across as good people on GND, and they worry a lot over very minor things. 

My one criticism is how they speak about Kendra. I'm not saying they have to pretend she was/is an angel, but I feel like they can be a pretty rough on her. She was on her late teens/early 20s during her time as a girlfriend, and she had the least stable upbringing. They're now women in their 40s. I get that a mid20s Holly may look at Kendra and not see her as scarcely more than a kid, but you'd think she would now that she's her 40s. 

In one of the earlier podcasts, Holly called Hef Kendra's meal ticket as if he weren't for her as well. I think Holly still gets judged unfairly a lot for stuff she did when she was very young. I think she's a good person, not a gold digger, and wound up in a situation where she was in over her head. But why not give the youngest girlfriend a little grace?

It's funny, I was reminded why Kendra was initially my favorite. I grew to like Holly and Bridget more because I could relate to them more in their girly girl ways. But Kendra came across as more real in some ways, and I don't think it was editing.

I am way behind on episodes but I do listen. I love Pam. I also really like Stacy Burke. She witnessed so much at the mansion they could have her on 50 times. She’s a good person who has had a very hard life. 

I asked a friend recently who used to love Kendra what the appeal was. Her response was that Kendra was more real about herself, about the situation. Kendra was in awe of everything. She didn’t act pretentious or above certain things like the others. She saw life with Hef as winning the golden ticket. Stripping in San Diego, living in an apartment you hate with a guy you don’t see a future with, crystal meth, driving a run down car versus living in a mansion, brand new Escalade of your dreams, access to things in life you never thought were possible? She won the lottery. I’ve said before on here and I’ll always one hundred percent believe her when she says Hef saved her life. By choosing her, as gross as it all is he pulled her out of what would’ve been a sad, dead end existence. She was vocal about Hef saving her life. She had a gratitude that it felt like the others didn’t. 
 

The issue often overlooked is that while Bridget and Kendra never wanted to marry him the way Holly did, Holly always glosses over the fact she was there for the perks too. She wanted to be famous. She saw the mansion as her break. She tends to gloss over certain issues. Hef was her meal ticket too. He paid for her Porsches, cosmetic surgery, Louis Vuitton, French lessons. Unless it’s for ego I don’t know why she keeps trying to separate herself as if she wasn’t there for the same reasons. I also don’t believe Holly has accomplished the level of growth she wants us all to believe she has. 

 

[qtpye]

38 minutes ago, LemonSoda said:

The issue often overlooked is that while Bridget and Kendra never wanted to marry him the way Holly did, Holly always glosses over the fact she was there for the perks too. She wanted to be famous. She saw the mansion as her break. She tends to gloss over certain issues. Hef was her meal ticket too. He paid for her Porsches, cosmetic surgery, Louis Vuitton, French lessons. Unless it’s for ego I don’t know why she keeps trying to separate herself as if she wasn’t there for the same reasons. I also don’t believe Holly has accomplished the level of growth she wants us all to believe she has. 

I really like Holly after she left the mansion.

Her Youtube channel was interesting and great for anyone who likes witchy things and Disney. I liked it when she talked about her life outside of Playboy.

However, she seems unable to see that Hef was a user and that many women were with him because they had little in the way of life options or wanted to further their careers in some way.

In her mind, she loved Hef, and that is the only valid reason to be at the mansion as a girlfriend.

Is it weird to anyone else that being a Playmate used to be such a big deal and now it does not even exist?

[LemonSoda]

2 hours ago, qtpye said:

I really like Holly after she left the mansion.

Her Youtube channel was interesting and great for anyone who likes witchy things and Disney. I liked it when she talked about her life outside of Playboy.

However, she seems unable to see that Hef was a user and that many women were with him because they had little in the way of life options or wanted to further their careers in some way.

In her mind, she loved Hef, and that is the only valid reason to be at the mansion as a girlfriend.

Is it weird to anyone else that being a Playmate used to be such a big deal and now it does not even exist?

I’m with you on the Holly outside of Playboy stuff. I even loved her old blog where she’d post recipes, fun things. Then when she joined YouTube, I love all the Disney, Beauty, general life stuff. I wish she’d talk more about her Vegas life. She really was great in Peepshow. 

It’s very weird. I know Playmate lost its cache a long time ago but it’s so weird it’s not a thing anymore. 

[RealHousewife]

4 hours ago, LemonSoda said:

I am way behind on episodes but I do listen. I love Pam. I also really like Stacy Burke. She witnessed so much at the mansion they could have her on 50 times. She’s a good person who has had a very hard life. 

I asked a friend recently who used to love Kendra what the appeal was. Her response was that Kendra was more real about herself, about the situation. Kendra was in awe of everything. She didn’t act pretentious or above certain things like the others. She saw life with Hef as winning the golden ticket. Stripping in San Diego, living in an apartment you hate with a guy you don’t see a future with, crystal meth, driving a run down car versus living in a mansion, brand new Escalade of your dreams, access to things in life you never thought were possible? She won the lottery. I’ve said before on here and I’ll always one hundred percent believe her when she says Hef saved her life. By choosing her, as gross as it all is he pulled her out of what would’ve been a sad, dead end existence. She was vocal about Hef saving her life. She had a gratitude that it felt like the others didn’t. 
 

The issue often overlooked is that while Bridget and Kendra never wanted to marry him the way Holly did, Holly always glosses over the fact she was there for the perks too. She wanted to be famous. She saw the mansion as her break. She tends to gloss over certain issues. Hef was her meal ticket too. He paid for her Porsches, cosmetic surgery, Louis Vuitton, French lessons. Unless it’s for ego I don’t know why she keeps trying to separate herself as if she wasn’t there for the same reasons. I also don’t believe Holly has accomplished the level of growth she wants us all to believe she has. 

 

So glad you still post here! 😄 Always enjoy reading your posts LemonSoda. 

I think that's exactly it about Kendra. She didn't try to portray this First Lady of the mansion vibe. She didn't obsess over Playboy or wanting to become Hef's dream girl. She was a regular girl who wound up Hugh Hefner's girlfriend. It's funny the girlfriend who was the least obsessed with Playboy/Hef is the most grateful. Not to sound that if Hef did anything for you, that he couldn't have also been an abusive jerk and just be grateful, it's just ironic. But yes, Kendra always saw the relationship for what it was. She didn't say she was in love with Hef, but I think she did love this man because she felt that he saved her. The path she was on was not pretty. 

Exactly. I don't doubt that some of the girlfriends expected more from Hef than the others, but we know none of these pretty 20-somethings would want an elderly man for a boyfriend if it weren't for the serious $$$.

I'll be honest. I would never marry a man for his money, but I get hit on by elderly man with money. I'm not where I'd hope to be in my life. There are days it has been tempting to go out with them. But I'm not a 20-something who can be a sugar baby without a care in the world. I'd like to still have a kid or two before it's too late, and I'm the type who really could fall for a much older man. Not sure if it's great to get attached to one when my biological clock is ticking. 

3 hours ago, qtpye said:

I really like Holly after she left the mansion.

Her Youtube channel was interesting and great for anyone who likes witchy things and Disney. I liked it when she talked about her life outside of Playboy.

However, she seems unable to see that Hef was a user and that many women were with him because they had little in the way of life options or wanted to further their careers in some way.

In her mind, she loved Hef, and that is the only valid reason to be at the mansion as a girlfriend.

Is it weird to anyone else that being a Playmate used to be such a big deal and now it does not even exist?

I think Holly is a good soul who dreamed of being the next Marilyn Monroe or Jenny McCarthy, and it's just not easy to make it in LA. So she wound up at the mansion. She's mentioned that she used to think everything was on the other girlfriends and not Hef, and she realized later that Hef played a lot of games. Holly seems to cut everyone some slack except for Kendra. I get that Kendra has said some things that were very hurtful, but it's like neither Holly nor Bridget could see Kendra as the wounded girl she was. I am a bit younger than Kendra, so when I first watched GND, I knew she was hella young to be with Hugh Hefner, but I didn't realize just how young she was until I was much older. My heart breaks thinking of all she went through between her father, her mother, everything. 

25 minutes ago, LemonSoda said:

I’m with you on the Holly outside of Playboy stuff. I even loved her old blog where she’d post recipes, fun things. Then when she joined YouTube, I love all the Disney, Beauty, general life stuff. I wish she’d talk more about her Vegas life. She really was great in Peepshow. 

It’s very weird. I know Playmate lost its cache a long time ago but it’s so weird it’s not a thing anymore. 

Yeah, I really admire Holly's beauty and style, so I enjoy seeing her favorite makeup, skin care, all of that good stuff. She is gorgeous. 

It really is. I wonder what some of those old Playmates are up to now.