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In the aftermath of Tristan’s shocking betrayal, Kim and Kourtney take Khloe on a getaway to help her cope with the news. Khloe’s anger reaches a boiling point when she learns that Jordyn is speaking publicly about what happened, causing her to lash out. Kylie has a decision to make about the future of her relationship with her best friend.

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Does Khloe really not get that she lost him how she got him? The women even have the same name - that’s a pretty big clue from the universe.

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Kylie seems more mature than the three older sisters put together.

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No she’s not, she’s scared Jordyn will hit on Travis. She’s no more secure in her relationship than any of them are. 

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Sia calling and crying.,,, and Khloe is loving every second of being felt sorry for. The Kardashian machine comes to a grinding halt because EVERYONE in the family has to talk and talk and talk about everything they’ve read or heard. Khloe’s baby daddy cheated on her and she’s upset, so what. Who cares. 

Who is this Savas? Is he Khloe’s Jonathan. 

Malika is so hoping that someday Khloe will come out of the closet and jump in her bed.

And where is her precious daughter that she’s so concerned over. 

If you don’t   want to hear from Tristan..., change your phone number.  

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Well as expected this episode did the exact opposite of what they were going for. I didnt feel an ounce of sympathy for Khloe but rather I was between laughing at her and anger at how much of a hypocrite she is. And Khloe calling Jordyn fat is some nasty bullshit. I would take Jordyn's natural curves before Khloe's deformed fake ass any day.

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1 hour ago, iwasish said:

Sia calling and crying.,,, and Khloe is loving every second of being felt sorry for. The Kardashian machine comes to a grinding halt because EVERYONE in the family has to talk and talk and talk about everything they’ve read or heard. Khloe’s baby daddy cheated on her and she’s upset, so what. Who cares. 

Who is this Savas? Is he Khloe’s Jonathan. 

Malika is so hoping that someday Khloe will come out of the closet and jump in her bed.

And where is her precious daughter that she’s so concerned over. 

If you don’t   want to hear from Tristan..., change your phone number.  

He's the father of her child, so they have to be in contact. Therefore, it wouldn't make sense for her to change her number.

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47 minutes ago, howmanywords said:

Well as expected this episode did the exact opposite of what they were going for. I didnt feel an ounce of sympathy for Khloe but rather I was between laughing at her and anger at how much of a hypocrite she is. And Khloe calling Jordyn fat is some nasty bullshit. I would take Jordyn's natural curves before Khloe's deformed fake ass any day.

They really all showed their asses on this episode. Scott and Kylie were the only two that seemed to have any sense of compassion towards Jordyn or awareness of how they were coming across on social media. I laughed at Kim trying desperately to back pedal when her sister tells her they’re coming across as bullies and to knock off the relentless Jordyn bashing. And then Kim makes a big deal about calling out Larsa Pippen for commenting to the reporters and trying to use her inside connection to the family to get some shine for herself..

And after all the shit the family says about her, Jordyn ISN'T allowed to make a public statement UNTIL she apologizes to Khloe? And Khloe expects Kris to strong arm Jada Pinkett (who I don’t even like) on who she has or doesn’t have on her own show. Who do these people think they are. 

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15 minutes ago, DivaLasVegas82 said:

He's the father of her child, so they have to be in contact. Therefore, it wouldn't make sense for her to change her number.

We are talking about probably a week or so  in real time. If something happened to the baby I’m sure they’d get hold of him. 

And he can call her mother or her sisters or even Malika.  All those messages he left, I doubt he even mentioned the kid.

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So I see that Kimora Lee wants the world to fear the Kardashians. And the Kardashians are inspired by this because right now, they look "weak." So hilarious! Oh, Kardashians, you look the same as you always have. A hypocritical and self-centered bunch with blinders on at all times. Sure, Khloe, Tristan is "tormenting" you by calling and texting, when you know that's what you want more than anything else. And yet you still can't get him to be faithful to you. Well obviously this pain of which you speak, being cheated on while pregnant, is Tristan's M.O., so cut the bull.

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That was embarrassing to watch and if they had any self awareness they wouldn't have included the Jordyn saga. It was pretty much resolved with Jada's red table talk. If Khloe wanted her side, she should have done an interview and squashed it. 

I agree with everyone that Kylie is more mature than her sisters. Kourtney, Kim, and Khloe are too old to behave they way they were. I'm glad that Kylie pointed out that they were bullying jordyn. Yikes! Why wasn't it obvious before?

You can tell that Kris feels bad and thinks the situation with Jordyn has snowballed. She see's her as young girl but Khloe already feels like the red haired step child so she can't call her out.

I'm disapointed in Malika and Kimora Lee.

Khloe needs a therapist and figure out why she has low self esteem.

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I still have no sympathy for Khloe. Poor girl, everything happening soooo publically, that must be horrible. Almost as horrible as being 7 months pregnant & seeing the father of your child prancing around with a famewhore with a big fat ass. Now I can't say for sure if that's true or not, but Khloe, maybe there's someone you can ask. You know, someone like Tristan's ex, I bet she knows.. What do you say?

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I can't cough up any sympathy for Khloe either, and if the Kardashians wanted any, this episode never should have seen the light of day.

Khloe is her own worst enemy.  First Lamar, who she  married after only knowing him one month (and everyone but Bruce ooohed and ahhhed over it.).  Then she gets pregnant by Tristan after only knowing him a few months, and after he cheated WITH her?  Never heard of birth control, Khloe?  And yes, I know accidents happen, but she'd been whining about wanting a child for so long - so the timing on her pregnancy leads me to believe it was intentional on her part.  Who knows if Tristan knew or cared?

So she got what she wanted from the relationship - a baby.  Good for her.  But all this talk about love, and trust etc.  - give me a break.  The relationship couldn't have been too solid to begin with.  And if she needed a second clue, well, cheating on her when she's 9 months pregnant should have taken care of that.

"Oh, they broke  up my family" - what family?   She had no family with Tristan.  She has a daughter, that's what she wanted. Tristan was a means to an end.

All of them, with the exception of Kylie, came across as children.   From their sing along in the car, to Khloe's screaming at that Savas person, to her (again) getting too physical with Kourtney, yelling at Kris for not having her back (like Kris could stop Jada Pinkett from doing whatever Jada Pinkett wants to do)to their calling Kanye (for what?  Does Kanye excel in advice to the lovelorn?)

I suspect the original intent was to blame Jordynn and Jordynn only.  But when Khloe got the twitter backlash, they realized they had better be more subtle about it.  But it's why they didn't want the Jada interview - has nothing to do with apologizing first to Khloe - rather, it might interfere with the Kardashian narrative.

And Tristan was suicidal? Calling and texting her all day?  More likely in bed with someone else.

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5 minutes ago, mwell345 said:

As I can't cough up any sympathy for Khloe either, and if the Kardashians wanted any, this episode never should have seen the light of day.

Khloe is her own worst enemy.  First Lamar, who she  married after only knowing him one month (and everyone but Bruce ooohed and ahhhed over it.).  Then she gets pregnant by Tristan after only knowing him a few months, and after he cheated WITH her?  Never heard of birth control, Khloe?  And yes, I know accidents happen, but she'd been whining about wanting a child for so long - so the timing on her pregnancy leads me to believe it was intentional on her part.  Who knows if Tristan knew or cared?

So she got what she wanted from the relationship - a baby.  Good for her.  But all this talk about love, and trust etc.  - give me a break.  The relationship couldn't have been too solid to begin with.  And if she needed a second clue, well, cheating on her when she's 9 months pregnant should have taken care of that.

"Oh, they broke  up my family" - what family?   She had no family with Tristan.  She has a daughter, that's what she wanted. Tristan was a means to an end.

All of them, with the exception of Kylie, came across as children.   From their sing along in the car, to Khloe's screaming at that Savas person, to her (again) getting too physical with Kourtney, yelling at Kris for not having her back (like Kris could stop Jada Pinkett from doing whatever Jada Pinkett wants to do)to their calling Kanye (for what?  Does Kanye excel in advice to the lovelorn?)

I suspect the original intent was to blame Jordynn and Jordynn only.  But when Khloe got the twitter backlash, they realized they had better be more subtle about it.  But it's why they didn't want the Jada interview - has nothing to do with apologizing first to Khloe - rather, it might interfere with the Kardashian narrative.

And Tristan was suicidal? Calling and texting her all day?  More likely in bed with someone else.

So Jordyan and everyone else allowed into the K inner circle was expected to be a watch dog for Khloe. Reporting back on what he did  and  who he was with when out and about. And this Savas character? Is he Khloe’s spy? Reporting back what Tristan is saying and doing and making sure he isn’t “suicidal”. Cause you know losing a great woman like Khloé and a family like the Kardashian’s would make anyone suicidal. Not!

It was funny though to see them realize that their “we hate Jordyn” campaign was backfiring and scrambling to get social media back on their side. Because they live and die by social media. 

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6 hours ago, GaT said:

I still have no sympathy for Khloe. Poor girl, everything happening soooo publically, that must be horrible. Almost as horrible as being 7 months pregnant & seeing the father of your child prancing around with a famewhore with a big fat ass. Now I can't say for sure if that's true or not, but Khloe, maybe there's someone you can ask. You know, someone like Tristan's ex, I bet she knows.. What do you say?

Do  they expect Jordyn to come crawling before the entire family,  begging forgiveness and absolution? 

Of course they do.

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All that episode did was make me think Kylie is the most sane and mature, she definitely has more self awareness that her older sisters. The others should be disgusted and ashamed of themselves. Go Kylie! 

I also sympathized with Kris, she was kind of in the middle and trying to keep her crazy daughters calm to not go off and do things like they did was exactly why she was trying to reign them in. All she got for it was attacked from them all. I don't blame her for siding with sane Kylie, Kris was probably very motherly to Jordyn. 

Kimora Lee really? People see them as weak, people have always seen them as a joke. lol Kim needed Kylie to call her out and the trying to spin Khloe's tweets as because Jordyn didn't talk to her first. Khloe's always been a mean girl bully, her tweets blaming the girl for yet another guy cheating on her is to be expected.

Not to mention who were they trying to fool with this narrative? Tristan was renting his own house and clubbing/partying in LA when Khloe also had a house in LA and claimed Jordyn was breaking up her family.  They were already done, Tristan hadn't been seen with her but he had been seen with other girls before and that week, when all these texts and threatening to kill himself was happening. He was living it up. lol

Wasn't Tristan seen with that model having dinner in NY before the Red Talk with Jada even aired? LOL Yes Khloe, Tristan was texting every minute, trying to kill himself and dying for you back. 

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10 hours ago, Miss Slay said:

That was embarrassing to watch and if they had any self awareness they wouldn't have included the Jordyn saga. 

I'm sure they were angry that they didn't get public sympathy but not including it didn't seem to be an option since at the end of the day, they want ratings and this was pretty much the only "real" storyline they had all season. Without this, people wouldn't be talking about them at all.

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When they showed the preview of Kylie saying “Jordyn hit me” I thought she meant punched or slapped - that would have taken the drama up a notch.

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Jesus Christ.

To get the shallow shit out of the way, what has Kourtney done to her face?  And why is Sia crying over Khloe?

Okay, now moving on to this ridiculous circus.

I agree with those who are wondering why they even aired this.  There is nothing about this episode that makes the older sisters look good.  And Khloe especially looks bad.  What was with her "these bitches get too comfortable" and "we look weak" and "we can be a badass family" gangster bullshit?  (Although I did love that they confirmed that Kris and Kim stepped in to change Khloe's image a few years ago lol).  Does she think that's the kind of thing that gets people worked up and cheering her on?   

And why does she think the tide turned on her?  They bullied that young woman on social media, they let the world go after her, they basically plastered a bright red letter A on her, and she was supposed to reach out to talk to Khloe?  Khloe and her "I'm not mean, I'm not scary" schtick is stupid.  She IS mean.  She IS scary.  She beats up on her sisters for fun.  She beat the crap out of a prostitute.  I wouldn't be walking through that door to have a heart to heart.  I'd take Jada over Khloe any day.  Not to mention, Jordan DID speak to Khloe.  Then they unleashed their machine on her, at what point in that was Jordan supposed to discern that Khloe would speak to her?

There is nothing Jordan could have said to Khloe that would have changed the direction of her wrath.

I just don't get how any of the Kardashians can sit there and be so surprised by how this happened.  They aren't that dumb.  That was a slow pivot that Khloe took, and it came too late, but Kim caught on pretty quickly as to what was going to happen.  Why they didn't spell it out for Khloe is beyond me.  

And did anybody else crack up and Kris basically trying to get off the phone as fast as possible at the end?   You could hear her thinking "get this braying bitch off the phone."

ETA:  I'm beginning to think that Khloe is just emotionally stunted.  She knows what she is supposed to say, but there is clearly a missing link when it comes to her words vs. her actions.  And Kim and Kourtney egging her on in Palm Springs like that while the cameras rolled means that they either are that stupid or that they dislike her as much as the rest of us (especially Kourtney).  

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Khloe? I got five words that could have saved you from all of this....greater Los Angeles sperm bank. Actually five words and this....if he cheated on her, he'll do it to you. That's all I got.

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Moving away from all the Khloe drama, did anyone notice Kylie outing herself as not exactly running Kylie cosmetics?  She was discussing that she was approached about putting various older products on sale and she agreed without bothering to find out which items were going on sale.  These turned out to be the Jordy makeup kits and she ended up being called out as being petty and bitchy for putting them on sale, though, according to her, they were already on sale for a week.  My point, as I keep pointing out, is that Kylie is basically just the spokesmodel for her own company; getting free attention on social media and just signing off on various choices, none of which make a big difference, brought to her by others who actually run the business.  She is not a business genius deserving of accolades, IMO.  

Going back two episodes to the Kris sharing Kylie's office episode, notice how Kris now wants credit for the success of Kylie cosmetics and Kylie seemed to be agreeing that they both did it.  So much for the self-made billionaire cosmetics genius. 

Same episode, Kylie seemed unfamiliar with her own new office decor.  Even her office decor is done by others and given to her.

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Also there was a shot of someone FaceTiming Kris on their phone and from whatever angle Kris was holding her phone.... she looked horrible, two huge black caterpillars for brows Ugh.

And Khloe with remodeling her house around Tristan... you could see Kris was aching to tell her to get over this fantasy (especially since he has his own place). 

And yes Khloé when you and your sister are both affected in different ways by the same circumstance, your mother is going to be in the middle. You put yourself in the  situation you are in, so maybe you clean up your own mess. There were a few family members that tried to say Tristan was ultimately responsible but you cut them off. Jordyn owes you NOTHING. She didn’t force Tristan to cheat, he’s a cheater. If it wasn’t her it would be snd probably has been others. You hooked up with a cheater and got cheated on. Most of us learned around 3 that if you touch something hot you get burned.  Next time get to know someone before getting so involved. Learn about their character and previous relationships. And when someone shows you what they are..:: believe them.

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7 hours ago, Bazinga said:

Kylie outing herself as not exactly being hands-on in running Kylie cosmetics?  She was discussing that she was approached about putting various older products on sale and she agreed without bothering to find out which items were going on sale.  These turned out to be the Jordy makeup kits and she ended up being called out as being petty and bitchy for putting them on sale, though, according to her, they were already on sale for a week. 

I think all we can fault her with is not asking which lip kits which didn't sound like it mattered. Based on what was said, all the old packaging was on sale to get rid of the inventory  and she approved that and it's been on sale 2 weeks. 

She could have asked when they came to her for approval which lip kits are left, but I doubt she would have expected all this. I don't think it makes her not hands on, the old packaging inventory had to go, it didn't matter which ones they were. 

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4 hours ago, Artsda said:

I think all we can fault her with is not asking which lip kits which didn't sound like it mattered.

I am not blaming her for the sale decision being related to the Jordyn situation, though I think it funny they needed to include the explanation, as you described, in the show to show it really wasn't Kylie being petty about Jordyn.  My point is that this story shows that she is brought decisions by others and basically just quickly OKs things that were already thought up by others; that she is not the business mastermind of Kylie Cosmetics.

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14 hours ago, BrindaWalsh said:

And why does she think the tide turned on her?  They bullied that young woman on social media, they let the world go after her, they basically plastered a bright red letter A on her, and she was supposed to reach out to talk to Khloe?  Khloe and her "I'm not mean, I'm not scary" schtick is stupid.  She IS mean.  She IS scary.  She beats up on her sisters for fun.  She beat the crap out of a prostitute.  I wouldn't be walking through that door to have a heart to heart.  I'd take Jada over Khloe any day.  Not to mention, Jordan DID speak to Khloe.  Then they unleashed their machine on her, at what point in that was Jordan supposed to discern that Khloe would speak to her?

YES to all of this.  Khloe is the very definition of a bully and from what I've seen from her on this show, she's been that way her entire life.  I got profoundly uncomfortable when Khloe started throwing Kourtney around in the bathroom after proclaiming that Khloe$$ (or however you spell that stupid moniker) had been unleashed.  She suddenly turns gangsta and starts screaming and drinking and then goes after her much smaller sister, who incidentally is also culpable in this entire sh!tstorm for egging the "mean" Khloe to come out and play.  And in the final scene we get poor Khloe crying about how she's a person and this is her family, so haters can suck it.  I don't feel one bit sorry for her at all.  She's a nasty human being, no matter how hard Kris and Kim try to smooth out her personality.

The only person I really feel sorry for in this entire family is True, who is going to grow up nice and tall and hopefully doesn't take after her mother and go beat up on her smaller cousins.  

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42 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

YES to all of this.  Khloe is the very definition of a bully and from what I've seen from her on this show, she's been that way her entire life.  I got profoundly uncomfortable when Khloe started throwing Kourtney around in the bathroom after proclaiming that Khloe$$ (or however you spell that stupid moniker) had been unleashed.  She suddenly turns gangsta and starts screaming and drinking and then goes after her much smaller sister, who incidentally is also culpable in this entire sh!tstorm for egging the "mean" Khloe to come out and play.  And in the final scene we get poor Khloe crying about how she's a person and this is her family, so haters can suck it.  I don't feel one bit sorry for her at all.  She's a nasty human being, no matter how hard Kris and Kim try to smooth out her personality.

The only person I really feel sorry for in this entire family is True, who is going to grow up nice and tall and hopefully doesn't take after her mother and go beat up on her smaller cousins.  

Khloé with her “Jordyn got too comfortable, we were too nice, she should have been too scared to put her hands on my man”

How about you find a man that is decent and loyal. And then women can throw themselves at him all they want and he’ll walk away . No one owes  you loyalty except someone who has promised it.  Tristan was nothing more than a baby daddy, he took no vows. If you had an agreement to be monogamous and he broke it,  take it up with him. Go ahead and be pissed at Jordyn, she has to deal with her part in it. But she OWES you nothing. 

The roses from Tristan...: why put them in your room except to let everyone see that he is BEGGING YOUR FORGIVENESS. 

If you got bashed on social media too bad. If it was Jordyn getting bashed you would be cheering loudest. She was smart... she got her story out there first and only she and Tristan know what really happened and HE isn’t talking. I’m sure he’d rather have it out there as ONLY A KISS so I don’t believe he’s going to confess to anything else.

They all know how the internet works, they use it to their advantage as much as they can. This time they miscalculated and maybe they’ve learned something. Probably not. 

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Excatly. I agree with what all of y'all said about Khlo-Money. They were not married, they were not engaged, hell they were barely dating for a year before she got pregnant with True so she can miss me with this whole "my family is broken up" narrative.

Girl if he didn't still with baby momma number one, and he cheated on her with you weather you were aware of his relationship status or not. What made Khloe think he was gonna stay with her? The fact that she had the means to I follow Tristan around the country like a lost puppy? 🙄

Khloe really is the poster child for the book he's just not into you and girl that man don't want you! Which is not a book but it should be cause some women are just that dense when it comes to men.

Poor true she's going to grow up barely seeing her father unless that changes as she gets older and she'll have to deal with her poor mother chasing after men who just seem to leech off of whatever she's willing to give them with a smile.

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That actually concerns me about True - Khloe is hardly the best judge of character, and she seems to think that a man telling she is beautiful and sexy somehow defines his character as decent, honest, and loving.  Yet look at who she has attracted over the years?  Are these really the types of men she will bring around True?  Or worse?  Khloe has the self esteem of an ant, at this point she needs to be REALLY careful about who she lets into her life.  

Not to mention, she even said to MJ "we all knew what Tristan was capable of" but she still let him come around.

Khloe, get yourself into therapy.  REAL therapy.  Not some guy paid for by Kris for the cameras.  Get off social media, take a break from the public eye, get into therapy, and take care of your own daughter who was getting DEATH threats as a result of this entire debacle.  When is it enough?  

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Two of my brothers are divorced and I have ZERO interest in sitting with them and hashing out who did what to who when and why did they do that. That whole family spent how many hours in person and on the phone over  how many days obsessing over something that is essentially Khloe’s problem?

And Kim acting as if she had no idea that it would become so big a story and that even something that they took down “ like 5 minutes” after they posted it, is still out there to be seen. She just feels terrible that she encouraged Khloe to put so much out there and that people are being so vicious to her. 

For once I think Kris did as good a job as she could considering that her 3 oldest daughters were loose cannons.

Kylie was very mature and tried to be neutral and Scott also deserved props.

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Poor True is going to have to grow up seeing her cousins with loving fathers who are always there while she got stuck with a douchebag absentee father. I have zero faith in Khloe's choice of men moving forward that she'll meet a nice normal guy who could be a good father to her. 

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Many of you probably remember better than I do, but wasn't there a video that took place sometime before the Jordyn drama that showed Tristan being very friendly with a couple of women? I think I remember the various K's pushing the 'they were groupies so no big deal' narrative.

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43 minutes ago, Misslindsey said:

Many of you probably remember better than I do, but wasn't there a video that took place sometime before the Jordyn drama that showed Tristan being very friendly with a couple of women? I think I remember the various K's pushing the 'they were groupies so no big deal' narrative.

LOL, I think you've got this mixed up with some other cheater. Yes, Tristan was filmed with other women when Khloe was 9 months pregnant, & none of the Ks said 'they were groupies so no big deal'. It was a very big deal.

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Khloe is like a woman in the dessert playing with a scorpion after seeing it sting other women before her. Then after it stings her she keeps picking it back up. And blaming the others for playing with HER scorpion.

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Just watched this episode and I have never disliked Khloe more. Her being an aggressive jerk was annoying and her ranting was pathetic. Give me a break on Tristan texting her over and over. He was with another woman not long after the whole Jordyn thing. Also her ranting about being 9 months Prego the first time he cheated was a joke since she got with him when he had a 7 month prego gf.

Kimora Lee Simmons looked like a fool and wtf is wrong with Sia why was she sobbing over this bs lol.

Khloe was wanting Kanye to rant when they called him but he was either overly medicated or doesn’t care.

The way they were talking about ppl disrespecting them etc you can tell they think way too high about themselves. What a bunch of fake bitches. I can’t with their butts either like wtf is even going on with those.

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2 hours ago, Marley said:

Just watched this episode and I have never disliked Khloe more. Her being an aggressive jerk was annoying and her ranting was pathetic. Give me a break on Tristan texting her over and over. He was with another woman not long after the whole Jordyn thing. Also her ranting about being 9 months Prego the first time he cheated was a joke since she got with him when he had a 7 month prego gf.

Kimora Lee Simmons looked like a fool and wtf is wrong with Sia why was she sobbing over this bs lol.

Khloe was wanting Kanye to rant when they called him but he was either overly medicated or doesn’t care.

The way they were talking about ppl disrespecting them etc you can tell they think way too high about themselves. What a bunch of fake bitches. I can’t with their butts either like wtf is even going on with those.

Its like they stuffed their pants!!!! 😶

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On 7/3/2019 at 12:50 PM, Marley said:

The way they were talking about ppl disrespecting them etc you can tell they think way too high about themselves. What a bunch of fake bitches. I can’t with their butts either like wtf is even going on with those.

Oh how about when Scott said something like, "you're the most powerful family in Hollywood" and NO ONE corrected him!!  They think that they are!  Jesus help us.

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