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3 hours ago, tranquilidade said:

From the preview at the end of the show it looks like Bethenny turns on Tinsley too. 

Is there anyone that Bethenny hasn't turned on?

ETA: Not "turned on"  in that way because we know that isn't happening but turned on as in gone after. 

Ok, you all know what I mean. I've been bingeing too much Killing Eve.

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2 hours ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

Dorinda? If so, I concur.

John is very obviously head over heels for her and she treats him like he is convenient. Or an embarrassment.

It's clear that she is still mourning Richard. John will never measure up to him in her eyes and he knows it. But he'll stay as long as she allows it. It seems really unfair.

I could be clouded by the fact that I like John. He seems like a decent enough guy. The type that you meet once and if he runs into you in a restaurant, he still remembers your name and buys you a drink.

Remember the special he thought he was hosting on an inside look at Madame Whatever, his family’s upscale dry cleaning operation? About 45 seconds in, Dorinda appears, poking her makeup-caked face between a couple of couture gowns. John seemed  genuinely shocked by her upstaging behavior, but he rolled with it.

I distinctly recall wishing D wasn’t there, because it would’ve been a lot more entertaining show without her and her attempts at cuteness. 

And yep, he’s still with her and he even got a little giddy at B’s whores party when D told him that she’d identified him as her husband to discourage a guy who was flirting. I hope they don’t marry.  I agree: He deserves somebody who loves him for him.

i liked D at first — now, she’s as low as Ramona in my opinion. 

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Was there no mention or signs of Skinnygirl during the S’mores and Whores party?  Or am I blind to it now?

And the comment at the end about buying not selling and ‘has decided not to sell Skinnygirl at least for the moment’ .... what does that mean?   No Skinnygirl products on the market or selling the business entirely is possibly in the future?

lol anyone else think that Bethenny may be thinking of starting a sex toy line a la Kandi?

ETA:  Did that piñata remind anyone of the thing Dorinda worked so hard to get for Bethenny a few years back and never felt appreciated for?

ETAA:  That stripper thing with Bethenny at the party did not help Bethenny’s cause in trying to obtain sole custody of Brynn.  Can’t believe they left that in ... unless a Skinnygirl sex toy line is being developed  

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8 hours ago, itsadryheat said:

My MVP award goes to John during his "Where's The Cake, I Don't Have the Cake" scene with Ramona. 

It was a really cheesy scene/line but it was magic!

Also, those cakes looked like display cakes from a bakery window, two enormous cakes, barely decorated, not even the birthday girl's name on them.  

That restaurant was named Pomona, rhymes with Ramona, hmmm.  Funny thing, in my neck of the woods there is an apartment complex named Pomona, full of eldercockers, (Yiddish for old folks), wait, so was that restaurant!

I kid, I'm of a certain age too so don't get on me about that. 

What in the world was going on with Sonja's hair styles in this episode?  I laughed when she wore that silver outfit to see Lu, she mentioned it was from the Sonja Collection. I pictured her digging in a box of clothes those con men had made that never saw the light of day and that little silver number should not have, yeesh.  We can see why she is so jealous of Tins.

Also, she totally shoplifted that necklace from Lu's merch table.

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Could it be that Bethenny no longer has to push that skinny girl swill on the show?  I don't remember seeing it this season like it was showcased in past seasons.

Maybe Bethenny got her sex toys from the line that Carole hawks on Evine after dark. 

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19 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

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Giant, oops!  You are right about Dorinda's hair, she looks great in shorter hair, it does look fried.  

Tinsley might be using Rent the Runway, it makes sense because none of those women (except for Sonja) wear anything twice so why invest thousands in a wear it once wardrobe?  My daughter uses RTR because she is in that stage of life were there are tons of weddings she is invited to, this way she never has to wear the same dress to any event.  

I still maintain that those $730 bedazzled sneakers were ugly and I doubt Tins will every wear them.

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Did anybody else catch Barbara saying to a friend that LuAnn can't sing?  She was in the audience of LuAnn's cabaret show when she turned around and said it.  Andy mentioned on WWHL last week that something "big" got caught on the microphone.  This will definitely cause a blow-up at the reunion!

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5 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

Could it be that Bethenny no longer has to push that skinny girl swill on the show?  I don't remember seeing it this season like it was showcased in past seasons.

Maybe Bethenny got her sex toys from the line that Carole hawks on Evine after dark. 

Maybe the terms with Beam have been completed and she gets no more $$$$?   

Carole hawks sex toys?  

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10 hours ago, ladle said:

Oh, Noel.  That mustache.  No. 

He grew that stache for his job...in porn.  Yikes, that is a bad look.

Also, this episode was amazing, it had it all, drama, B crying ugly, comedy, Lu's talentless cabaret act and that guy in the suit laughing hysterically, heart felt moments, housekeeper comforting B, a paid for hug that is), hi fashion...just kidding, hooker boots and naughty Mrs. Santa outfits, at least one procedure in a doctor's office...

Everyone's posts are funny as hell!

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20 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

Maybe Bethenny got her sex toys from the line that Carole hawks on Evine after dark. 

Leave it to these women to turn a Christmas party into something sleazy.  Sigh.  

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10 hours ago, sashayshante said:

You'll never convince me Bethenny didn't embellish if not out right fake her "near death" experience because Dorinda, Sonja and Luann were getting their time in the spotlight.  God forbid ANYBODY be the center of attention except Bethenny. Seriously, her need for attention and adulation is pathological. She can not handle when other women are getting attention and taking the focus off her.

Seriously. I think the only reason she was in ICU is bc she’s a celebrity and there’s a reasonable degree of security in ICU. Any old person who doesn’t belong there can’t just stroll through intensive care like you can with lower acuity areas. I can because I’m special 😉 but a rando could not. Especially in a posh area. 

I was just at Newton Wellesley for work on Wednesday. 

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8 hours ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

Dorinda? If so, I concur.

John is very obviously head over heels for her and she treats him like he is convenient. Or an embarrassment.

It's clear that she is still mourning Richard. John will never measure up to him in her eyes and he knows it. But he'll stay as long as she allows it. It seems really unfair.

I could be clouded by the fact that I like John. He seems like a decent enough guy. The type that you meet once and if he runs into you in a restaurant, he still remembers your name and buys you a drink.

I don't get why she is with him at all. I don't believe it is the dry cleaning obviously. Just be alone, for heavens sake. I think too many women fear that and I really don't get it. 

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10 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

That’s exactly why I like the NYC housewives better than BH. 

Same here. Plus, being a native born CA girl, New York is like an exotic different world for me. love the homes, especially Dorinda's Berkshire home-don't care if it isn't as pretentious as the Hamptons-love that there are actual seasons, and yes, I feel like these women, with all their catfights, really do care about each other. 

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1 hour ago, Baltimore Betty said:

That restaurant was named Pomona, rhymes with Ramona, hmmm.  Funny thing, in my neck of the woods there is an apartment complex named Pomona, full of eldercockers, (Yiddish for old folks), wait, so was that restaurant!

The restaurant was the former Beautique, right next to the Paris Theater and across the street from The Plaza. Remember they filmed a girls night at Beautique and there was some secret bar there? I had dinner there once, it was meh. It was also down a bunch of stairs from street level and kind of awkwardly laid out. Because it's so far removed from the street it's impossible to know how busy/popular the place actually is. 

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9 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

Bethanny has had WAY TOO MUCH facial work. She looks horrid when she makes expressions!

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She is really channeling Conrad Veidt in The Man Who Laughs.

Death by bonito flakes would be the most Beth death ever.

"Skinnygirl bonito flakes. They're killer good!"

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11 hours ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

Sonja's wearing a Sonja Morgan design?

That's not how you spell AliExpress..

It looked even worse than the outfits concocted by Sheree Whitfield for her SheBySheree collection on RHOA a few years ago.

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3 minutes ago, esco1822 said:

The restaurant was the former Beautique, right next to the Paris Theater and across the street from The Plaza. Remember they filmed a girls night at Beautique and there was some secret bar there? I had dinner there once, it was meh. It was also down a bunch of stairs from street level and kind of awkwardly laid out. Because it's so far removed from the street it's impossible to know how busy/popular the place actually is. 

I remember when they filmed at Beautique, it must have been some job getting the stink of desperation out of there, lol.

The eldercocker mention was specifically related to Ramona and friends, just a joke people, admitting that I am of a certain age too.

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33 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

Did anybody else catch Barbara saying to a friend that LuAnn can't sing?  She was in the audience of LuAnn's cabaret show when she turned around and said it.  Andy mentioned on WWHL last week that something "big" got caught on the microphone.  This will definitely cause a blow-up at the reunion!

The fact she said it under her breath and she was there to support Luann no matter what and Luann at this point had thrown Barbra to the wolves... And every one of these ladies has said at one time or another that she cant sing or as LITTLE single ability .... but they will attack her for it and totally side step they all think the same thing ... notice how Ramona and Sonja were going in on her last night to oh where were you working? yes bitch she has a job she has to work she didn't divorce a rich man and suck him dry like you did Ramona

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20 minutes ago, Ellee said:

Was there no mention or signs of Skinnygirl during the S’mores and Whores party?  Or am I blind to it now?

Clearly Skinnygirl is background noise to you. There were bottles of Skinnygirl hooch on the bar and there's a brief discussion of which Skinnygirl booze to use in a cocktail. 

20 minutes ago, Ellee said:

And the comment at the end about buying not selling and ‘has decided not to sell Skinnygirl at least for the moment’ .... what does that mean?   No Skinnygirl products on the market or selling the business entirely is possibly in the future?

She was thinking of selling the whole company.

20 minutes ago, Ellee said:

lol anyone else think that Bethenny may be thinking of starting a sex toy line a la Kandi?

That's pretty much Bethenny's modus operandi. She launched her Skinnygirl shapewear a year after Jill launched Skweez. During their season 7 cast trip, Bethenny tries to tell Heather to drop the Yummie jeans line and concentrate on shapewear and maybe consider getting to athleisure while holding a pair of Yummie yoga pants from the gift bags filled with Yummie athleisure that Heather gave all the ladies. The unsolicited advice to Heather about only pursuing one or two product lines is some pretty thick irony coming from the woman who employs the shotgun blast and spaghetti method of product development and brand expansion.

She's had booze, deli meat, snacks, nutrition and protein bars, non-alcoholic beverages, weight loss supplements, face masques, yoga mats, workout videos, athleisure, shapewear, the blender, a stairstepper, anti-aging products, hair care products, underwear, clothing, outerwear, and jeans. I wouldn't be surprised if she got into the sex toy business. 

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BTW why is everyone blaming Barbara for ruining Sonja's surprise? Am I mis-remembering this? Wasn't it Ramona who actually told her after Barbara pitched a fit about both events being on the same night? I'm actually team Barb in that argument, which I will probably never say again in my life. It was a crappy thing of Ramona to do and I think Barbara was trying to be a good friend when she talked to Moaner. I'd say the fault of ruining the surprise sits with crazy eyes who chose a shady date and actually said the words "i'm throwing you a surprise party."

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Remember how vicious Beth was to Sonja when she wanted to start "Tipsy Girl"?

I really liked falling in the bushes Lu. I never need to see Cabaret Lu ever again. Apparently Andy loves her lame AF act.

Maybe Scott chooses not to be around during filming?

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5 minutes ago, esco1822 said:

BTW why is everyone blaming Barbara for ruining Sonja's surprise? Am I mis-remembering this? Wasn't it Ramona who actually told her after Barbara pitched a fit about both events being on the same night? I'm actually team Barb in that argument, which I will probably never say again in my life. It was a crappy thing of Ramona to do and I think Barbara was trying to be a good friend when she talked to Moaner. I'd say the fault of ruining the surprise sits with crazy eyes who chose a shady date and actually said the words "i'm throwing you a surprise party."

Because Ramona and Sonja hate Barbra Sonja hates her because she is to "close" and "kissy" with Beth.. and Ramona hates her just because shes not feminine and god knows why else .... they haven't liked her since she was introduced with Luann so they will jump on anything to attack her

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12 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Wait was that a Luann Cabaret votive candle?

Bwahahahaha

Like Bethenny said, “ we have to pray to the shrine of Luann”, hahahahaha.  Crazy bitches.

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10 hours ago, njbchlover said:

And, WTF did Chrissy Tiegen do to her face?  She looks scary!!  

They ALL seem to get Botox and fillers.  She can no longer close her eyes when she laughs, so they just stay open, frozen, staring at everyone when she does so.  It's terrifying.

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I've pretty much been on the Dorinda train until last night. It's none of her damn business where Tinsley gets her money or who she dates! I just watched the aftershow videos and she and Sonja are still ragging on Tinsley about it. Dorinda needs to make it nice!  Tinsley said she has family money and even said to Dale, "thank you mommy".

Does Bethenny not cater to the south? I've been in Alabama for about 28 years now and can't recall ever seeing Skinny Girl anything anywhere. Maybe I don't get out enough. 😂🤷‍♀️ Not all of us are inbred or rednecks. LOL! It's a joke! I kid!!! 🤣

Poor delusional Lu...she can't sing or dance. Just watched WWHL and just no!

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12 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

So I saw Luann's mom and her son Noel.

Where's Victoria?

Oh wait there she is with Sonja

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OMG .. I’m peeing my pants.  I’m going to miss all this until they come back.

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10 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

It's when Bethanny tries to laugh like something is hysterical. Her super huge smile doesn't reach her eyes, and she is still looking around to see who is paying attention and laughing also (because if Bethanny finds something hysterical, everyone else should!) and she looks freaky. IMO. 

Oh maybe that's the problem with the work Chrissy's gotten too.  The smile no longer reaches the eyes.  The smile and the eyes have become separated and work independently

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11 hours ago, TexasGal said:

You’re right, Bethenny.  It does sound crazy that Dennis was trying to pull you to the other side.  Can we move on?

Right? I'm sure his family loves hearing Beth talk about how selfish he s in death that he's pulling the founder of Skinny Girl over to his side!  He's just SOOOOOOO in love he wants her for all of eternity.

My God this woman is so full of herself.

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11 hours ago, chewycandy said:

I’m surprised too. Tinsley has beautiful clothes and purses etc and it’s her business how she gets them - all Dorinda gets is free dry cleaning.

Beth, the women have eyes and can see the vibrators and condoms without you screaming “SEX TOYS! SEX TOYS!” 

I think Dorinda hangs onto her boyfriend b/c people forget their dry cleaning and she gets designer gowns that way.  

And for the woman who constantly brags that she stays with him b/c of dry cleaning, she should shut the fuck up.

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11 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I don't get it with Bethenny - she really has to equate everything to something sexual.  Even a friggin' holiday pinata.  Why not fill it with mini alcohol bottles, or other fun adult trinkets, other than sex toys.  Luann and Sonja diving for the vibrators?  I guess Sonja may have melted her other one by putting too close the heating element in her dishwasher.  

Didn't Bethenny do a pinata at another party in a past season?  I seem to remember that, and she filled it with lots of costume jewelry, except for one or two real pieces.  

Barbara is definitely NOT coming back next season - girl can't even remember she is mic'd!!  Although, I agree 1,000% with her, she's going to have to answer for that comment!  

This is what bugs me about Beth.  Well one of the many things.  When she started on RHONY, her humor was more diversified.  She could actually be funny without adding blow job to the sentence.

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Being of sound saphood, I cringe every time Dennis gets mentioned on this show.  I hurt for his wife, his kids, parents, all real friends and family. 

We can criticize Bethenny for all of this but what about Bravo for airing this?   Tells a lot about Bravo too. 

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I actually thought the Tinsley plot was completely manufactured.  She has been a bit lost this year and her place in the cast seemed a bit tenuous.  By starting the fight, Dorinda may have just been helping her out a bit.

Isn’t Tins hanging out with Billy Bush now?  I can see them as a couple that works...far more than she and Scott.

Honestly, the biggest thing I remember of her this season was here tennis skills.  The girl is a legitimate tennis player.

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7 hours ago, Happy Camper said:

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I think she still looks a lot better than she did but yes, the lighting, the makeup has to be perfect of else she still has that jokerish look to her.

I also don't get Dorinda.  There have been times this season where I think she looks really good and much more youthful than last season.  But I don't get what the fuck she's doing with her hair.  She's got a mullet look to her right now.

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1 hour ago, ChitChat said:

Did anybody else catch Barbara saying to a friend that LuAnn can't sing?  She was in the audience of LuAnn's cabaret show when she turned around and said it.  Andy mentioned on WWHL last week that something "big" got caught on the microphone.  This will definitely cause a blow-up at the reunion!

Wasn't Barb the same person who spilled some tea on (Lu's engagement party) the impending wedding about Lu going thru with the wedding is easier than calling it off because divorce would be easier, Barb was not a cast member just a mic'd party person. 

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12 hours ago, Steph J said:

Luann lives her show 24/7.  How much "mental preparation" time does she need?

The funny thing is, she really thinks she’s that great.  If she wasn’t a housewife, would anybody go to hear her croak?  

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2 minutes ago, Ellee said:

Being of sound saphood, I cringe every time Dennis gets mentioned on this show.  I hurt for his wife, his kids, parents, all real friends and family. 

We can criticize Bethenny for all of this but what about Bravo for airing this?   Tells a lot about Bravo too. 

Bravo, and other articles I've read, make it sound like Beth was the widow and is so brave for going forward.

It's bad enough she goes on and on about his unrequited love for her to the point she speculates his death was suicide, but now he's telling her to head towards the light?  WTF?

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Well, it's obvious, to me, that Dennis does not want Beth dating, or at least dating Mr Boston Dude. Wasn't Beth with him when she received her note from beyond about how fabulous she looked? and now they go out to dinner and Dennis finds a way to interrupt the dinner trying to pull Beth into the afterlife during an allergic reaction to an fish enhanced recipe. He's trying to break them up. 

Because, what man would stay with a woman who keeps seeing signs from her recently deceased ex guy boyfriend fiance  significant other? Ok, other than John Mahdessian?

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5 hours ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

Hmmmm..... how do you get “Benadryl and a bit of water” down the throat of an unconscious woman? Asking for a friend....

I caught that right away.  You are not unconscious if you can swallow and if you tried that on an unconscious person the water would go down the airway.  Obviously she exaggerates..

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1 hour ago, HunterHunted said:

Clearly Skinnygirl is background noise to you. There were bottles of Skinnygirl hooch on the bar and there's a brief discussion of which Skinnygirl booze to use in a cocktail. 

She was thinking of selling the whole company.

That's pretty much Bethenny's modus operandi. She launched her Skinnygirl shapewear a year after Jill launched Skweez. During their season 7 cast trip, Bethenny tries to tell Heather to drop the Yummie jeans line and concentrate on shapewear and maybe consider getting to athleisure while holding a pair of Yummie yoga pants from the gift bags filled with Yummie athleisure that Heather gave all the ladies. The unsolicited advice to Heather about only pursuing one or two product lines is some pretty thick irony coming from the woman who employs the shotgun blast and spaghetti method of product development and brand expansion.

She's had booze, deli meat, snacks, nutrition and protein bars, non-alcoholic beverages, weight loss supplements, face masques, yoga mats, workout videos, athleisure, shapewear, the blender, a stairstepper, anti-aging products, hair care products, underwear, clothing, outerwear, and jeans. I wouldn't be surprised if she got into the sex toy business. 

Exactly.  The only original, novel Skinny Girl product was the margarita.  And apparently that was her mom's recipe and the name is a derivation off of Lu's comment.  I give her credit for hustling and getting it done, but with the exception of the Margarita, there's no Skinny Girl product that's unique and hasn't been done to death.

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I thought Bethenny was acting very differently in the last few moments and when she was tossed in the chair the expression on her face was unexpected.  I thought she would have been annoyed.  She was flirting a bit with the stripper and that was not like her, or was it?  

On another note, Dorinda needs to rethink her hair style because it is very high maintenance  and only looks good when really styled and set.  On casual days it's a mess for someone who is filming.  Some good leave in products would help to start with! Her style is impossible to maintain on trips because she probably needs a hairdresser to fix it up.  She should either travel with one or try something more versatile. 

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