Clanstarling July 16, 2019 Share July 16, 2019 On 7/5/2019 at 5:12 PM, piperkat said: OK, I have to call BS on one tiny, but critical point – no one in 1985 would’ve referred to the original Star Wars as “A New Hope”. Nope, not even pretentious video rental clerks. Yes, there was a limited release in the early 80s that tacked on that extra title, but anyone who was around for the original Star Wars run in ‘77 would refer to it as “Star Wars”. It's still Star Wars to me. As well as to my grown children - I raised them right. 😉 On 7/5/2019 at 7:57 PM, mmecorday said: The ending was brutal. I'm so invested in these characters, I felt like I was watching my good friends move away. (That was always my biggest fear when I was their ages -- that my best friend would have to move because of her father's job. She never did, thank God.) I was sobbing like a child. Not only because it was a touching moment with the characters - but I said goodbye to my friends so many times in my young life because my Dad could not stand to be in one place for long, that this really hit home. On 7/5/2019 at 10:01 PM, Dev F said: And that's a pretty cool and fairly uncommon message -- that it's OK to feel like an outsider even among other outsiders, and that even if you find yourself growing apart in small or large ways from the people you once shared everything with, it doesn't mean you have to stop caring about them or supporting them in their times of need. Loved this. Given what I said above, it hits home too. On 7/6/2019 at 5:44 AM, ElectricBoogaloo said: While I understand Joyce following through with her plan to leave Hawkins (and who can blame her after losing Bob and Hopper?), I thought it wasn't necessarily the best choice for Will and Eleven who have been through a lot and need the emotional support of their friends. Sure, kids can make new friends, but it's not like Will and Eleven can tell their new friends about demogorgons, mind flayers, and secret Russian bases under the mall. But they'll have each other - and they're the two who encountered the Upside Down and Mind Flayer more directly. On 7/6/2019 at 1:58 PM, MissL said: Is it awful that when I saw Joyce hugging Will at the end I got totally pulled out of the moment and mumbled “Joyce you have TWO sons are you concerned about Jonathan at ALL?” The thought might have passed through my mind. On 7/10/2019 at 10:12 AM, foxfreakinmulder said: Hopper stepped on it. But Billy found Eleven's blood on the floor when he was looking for them so I don't know if that blood morphed into something or not. In a miss it if you blinked moment, the Mind Flayer sucked it up - or it was absorbed - into one of its appendages. On 7/10/2019 at 10:22 PM, Katsullivan said: Billy was flat out abusive to Max and in the After-Show they were doing for Season 2, the producers clearly explain that BIlly was: racist, and abusive. He hated Lucas for being black but he would basically look for any reason to hurt Max. It's also stated that they haven't been family for long - looks like their parents just got married and decided to "start new" in Hawkins. But in season 3, they're suddenly close siblings who've known each other since Max was a baby. 🙄🙄 All I wanted was for that abusive, racist piece of shit Billy to die and I got that. Of course they had to woobify his ass first because heaven forbid we should be happy that a POS got what was coming to him. I noticed that they entirely retconned his relationship with Max so that his victim could cry over his dead body, while also sweeping that small matter of "beat up a child for being black" under the rug. Typical.🙄 In the flashback memory El accessed this season, Max was a few years younger than she is now when she was introduced to Billy. So, not a baby. I don't think there was any retconning - abused people often still love the abuser. But @The Companion says it better: On 7/15/2019 at 8:08 AM, The Companion said: Abuse is complicated. People often feel loss and grief when losing an abusive spouse or parent. It isn't at all uncommon. Beyond that, I think we can take Max's word over the course of the season when she defended Billy that there was something beyond fear and dislike between them. They are both victims as well, and that would have formed a bond, whether or not it was a healthy one. 4 Link to comment
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