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13 hours ago, TheRealT said:

You would think that a reasonably intelligent 31-35-year-old woman would be able to see through that shit immediately, but, apparently, that's not the case for Holly. Weird and sad.

If Holly was outside the house, we’d might see a different Holly but I will give her a pass.  She’s confined inside and cannot leave.   That right there has to be tough.  Technically she stuck in there with Jackson’s gaslighting.   Then she’s positioned herself that her game is dependent on Jackson.  Then add the fact that production has blatantly favored Jackson and is pushing this showmance storyline, I’d say she feels stuck and helpless.  

As much as I’d love to see her win the final HOH and take Nichole, she’s going to stick with the script and take Jackson.  She isn’t going to lose her opportunity to be on the Amazing Race with Jackson and any other future jobs.   She knows that in Hollywood, one must play nice and eat shit.  

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15 minutes ago, Melina22 said:

Well, that's disappointing. I really enjoyed Celebrity BB. It was weird, it was short, we got a glimpse into the lives and minds of C and D list celebrities. I'm unhappy I'll be deprived of this ultra-guilty pleasure. 😞😞

Agree.   And you’d think they would have a large pool if sudo celebrities dying for exposure to choose from.  Plus, the houseguests on the celebrity edition was of every age group, most of them 35 or older.   That was nice.   No hookups but good friendships were formed.  

Very disappointing.  

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47 minutes ago, Melina22 said:

Well, that's disappointing. I really enjoyed Celebrity BB. It was weird, it was short, we got a glimpse into the lives and minds of C and D list celebrities. I'm unhappy I'll be deprived of this ultra-guilty pleasure. 😞😞

Surprisingly, the first season of CBB was much more entertaining than I expected - as in “holy shit they’re all actually acting like adults!” entertaining.

Not surprisingly, though, the second season of CBB was a total fucking train wreck.  Or had folks forgotten Loco Jones so quickly...?

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8 minutes ago, Nashville said:

Surprisingly, the first season of CBB was much more entertaining than I expected - as in “holy shit they’re all actually acting like adults!” entertaining.

Not surprisingly, though, the second season of CBB was a total fucking train wreck.  Or had folks forgotten Loco Jones so quickly...?

First season of CBB was a mess, but a hot mess. It was fun, it had great rivalries (Brandi vs James? C'mon, who didn't love that?) and it had some solid gameplay. 

I mean, season 2 was a mess...but not exactly a hot mess. It was really just a whole mess. When Ryan Lochte is one of the more sane houseguests in the season, you know you've done something wrong. It was also missing the fun spark that season 1 had. Even with the quitters in season 1 (I'm looking at you Metta "I VOTE CHUCK" and Keisha "MY BREAST MILK IS DEPLETING"), I just found it better than season 2.

However, what Celebrity Big Brother DID prove is that a Big Brother season needs to be way shorter than 99 days. 60 days would be more acceptable, because the game play will be at lightning speed, which means less time to lounge around and get things locked in early on. I could even say 70 days would be fine. But anything more, especially inching into 80-85 days, and it's just too long.

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22 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

All of the above perhaps? I mean he's a 24 year old man but he's her baby. And it sounds like he's struggled in the past both mentally and physically too.  I am feeling bad for momma at this point. It would give me such anxiety to watch my son's every move on national television. 

I would have more than anxiety if Jackson was my kid, displaying his entitlement and arrogance 24 hours a day;  I would change my name and move to an undisclosed location, haha.  

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2 hours ago, Melina22 said:

Well, that's disappointing. I really enjoyed Celebrity BB. It was weird, it was short, we got a glimpse into the lives and minds of C and D list celebrities. I'm unhappy I'll be deprived of this ultra-guilty pleasure. 😞😞

And I got to spend a glorious week and a half watching Ryan Lochte's back and shoulder muscles when he would swim in the endless pool. The front was okay, too. But the back side of him was particularly yummy. 

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By the way, this show's production is so incompetent that I could totally believe that they WOULD accidentally have a contestant pass out from CO2 exposure. I just don't think that they would let a competition go on if it happened. "Shouldn't we pause the comp? Nicole just passed out!" "Nah, nah, keep going, she's just power napping!"

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36 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

And I got to spend a glorious week and a half watching Ryan Lochte's back and shoulder muscles when he would swim in the endless pool. The front was okay, too. But the back side of him was particularly yummy. 

But that's just the thing I liked about Celeb BB. Not Ryan's muscles, but a chance to see who he really was, as opposed to who we'd assumed he was based on the media reports. I enjoyed that. 

The other thing that made it fun was that celebs are media-savvy and pretty thick-skinned. Sometimes I worry that regular BB players are in over their heads and not in any way prepared for the aftermath of the show. I never think that about celebs and I like that. 

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46 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

By the way, this show's production is so incompetent that I could totally believe that they WOULD accidentally have a contestant pass out from CO2 exposure. I just don't think that they would let a competition go on if it happened. "Shouldn't we pause the comp? Nicole just passed out!" "Nah, nah, keep going, she's just power napping!"

I can hear someone yelling ' get more Holly footage'. 😊

I also can see BB keeping everything the way it is and 'buying out' Nicole for a dollar amount.  What choice would she have?  Taking it is all I can think of.   LOL, watch them offer her AFP. 

Have been kind of looking to see if there was any more said about this.  Not finding anything.

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ROFLMFAO!!!

www.change.org/p/cbs-we-want-a-re-do-for-part-2-for-nicole?source_location=petitions_browse

Someone started a petition to have a redo of Part 2! 

😁😁

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16 hours ago, HeShallBMySquishy said:

She should, but, spoiler: she won't. She'll do absolutely anything he orders her to do. I firmly believe that her throwing that HOH comp had nothing to do with honouring her deal with Cliff and Nicole and everything to do with making her man happy. She simply dropped because Jackson ordered her to.

I agree that Holly had her marching orders and did what Jackson wanted.  But let’s just pretend Holly didn’t throw that comp?   Could you imagine the abuse she would have to endure from Jackson if she won?   I could see Jackson trying pull her down during the comp.  

She can give whatever delusional excuse as to why she threw the comp.   Cliff and Nichole, the wheeler dealers, should have kept their trap shut.  Holly would be seething at Jackson right now. 

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I have to wonder, what could Nicole and Cliff do if Holly did win the F4 HoH?  threaten to vote out jackson if they won veto?  they would already do that (or at least should do that if they won).  did jackson really think if nicole and cliff got the choice, they'd vote to evict holly over him?

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31 minutes ago, LGGirl said:

I agree that Holly had her marching orders and did what Jackson wanted.  But let’s just pretend Holly didn’t throw that comp?   Could you imagine the abuse she would have to endure from Jackson if she won?   I could see Jackson trying pull her down during the comp.  

She can give whatever delusional excuse as to why she threw the comp.   Cliff and Nichole, the wheeler dealers, should have kept their trap shut.  Holly would be seething at Jackson right now. 

Didn't Cliff and/or Nicole tell her before the comp that she didn't have to throw it if she didn't want to? And didn't she drop literally on Jackson's orders? So she already knows who "strong armed" her into the throwing the comp; she's just in denial about it for now. I wonder how she will feel when she gets out and sees Jackson admit that he told her to throw it because it was best for his game.

On top of that, he's going to dump her ASAP once the show is over. I figure he'll wait a week so it won't be too awkward when they do the post-show stuff with other cast members. He will absolutely frame the break up as all her fault and him just doing what he truly thinks is best for her. If she so much as says, "Maybe I should have taken Nicole to F2..." or anything that could be remotely interpreted as not being 100% supportive of his win, he will totally use that as part of his justification for dumping her.

The only thing that could maybe make the relationship last longer is if they get recruited for Amazing Race. But I think Jackson would much rather do AR with Jack, or even Tommy, if he could swing it.

Holly has some emotional issues, so I hope she gets the support she'll need after the show. I think she'll be devastated at how she was portrayed and how Jackson used her to win $500K, then dumped her to hook up with a bunch of younger women, probably at least semi-publicly. If he doesn't do another reality show, he'll certainly be posting about his great new life on SM all the time.

She was hoping she'd be portrayed as a young, beautiful bad ass who was really sweet and an inspiration to young women. Instead, she came off as kind of a skank and a dumbass who was controlled by her asshole bf. It will be even worse if she wins Part 3 and takes him to the end, just in terms of the narrative that will create. She'll be Holly, the chick in S21 who threw her game away for a shitty showmance with the guy who won. Of course, most people, even people who watch the show, won't remember or care after a month, but I think it will bother her a lot. And every time someone in a mall 6 years later comes up to her and says, "Hey, aren't you that chick from BB? The one who was in a showmance with that guy with the square head, what was his name?" that will bother her too.

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2 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

By the way, this show's production is so incompetent that I could totally believe that they WOULD accidentally have a contestant pass out from CO2 exposure. I just don't think that they would let a competition go on if it happened. "Shouldn't we pause the comp? Nicole just passed out!" "Nah, nah, keep going, she's just power napping!"

Newbie question - do they ever redo comps? I think this is some internet rumor that spread based on Nicole's speculation that she blacked out due to CO2. But if not, has there ever been a situation where a winner was declared and then that win was rescinded and the comp redone? Julie said something about an "unusual finale" -- I assume she says that every year for hype but it did have me wondering...

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25 minutes ago, Hanahope said:

 did jackson really think if nicole and cliff got the choice, they'd vote to evict holly over him?

Cliff legitimately DID seem prepared to do just that had he won POV, since he figured if it was just him, Nicole and Jackson, that Jackson would take him over Nicole, while Holly would not.

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1 hour ago, TheRealT said:

Didn't Cliff and/or Nicole tell her before the comp that she didn't have to throw it if she didn't want to? And didn't she drop literally on Jackson's orders? So she already knows who "strong armed" her into the throwing the comp; she's just in denial about it for now. I wonder how she will feel when she gets out and sees Jackson admit that he told her to throw it because it was best for his game.

On top of that, he's going to dump her ASAP once the show is over. I figure he'll wait a week so it won't be too awkward when they do the post-show stuff with other cast members. He will absolutely frame the break up as all her fault and him just doing what he truly thinks is best for her. If she so much as says, "Maybe I should have taken Nicole to F2..." or anything that could be remotely interpreted as not being 100% supportive of his win, he will totally use that as part of his justification for dumping her.

The only thing that could maybe make the relationship last longer is if they get recruited for Amazing Race. But I think Jackson would much rather do AR with Jack, or even Tommy, if he could swing it.

Holly has some emotional issues, so I hope she gets the support she'll need after the show. I think she'll be devastated at how she was portrayed and how Jackson used her to win $500K, then dumped her to hook up with a bunch of younger women, probably at least semi-publicly. If he doesn't do another reality show, he'll certainly be posting about his great new life on SM all the time.

She was hoping she'd be portrayed as a young, beautiful bad ass who was really sweet and an inspiration to young women. Instead, she came off as kind of a skank and a dumbass who was controlled by her asshole bf. It will be even worse if she wins Part 3 and takes him to the end, just in terms of the narrative that will create. She'll be Holly, the chick in S21 who threw her game away for a shitty showmance with the guy who won. Of course, most people, even people who watch the show, won't remember or care after a month, but I think it will bother her a lot. And every time someone in a mall 6 years later comes up to her and says, "Hey, aren't you that chick from BB? The one who was in a showmance with that guy with the square head, what was his name?" that will bother her too.

I want to tell Holly - if Jackson wins, he will dump her in a second.  it was a showmance, not a real relationship, and he wants to stay friends on social media, but BYE! 

If Holly wins, Jackson just might want to stick around for a bit.   But she then has the control, and she can take her money and send Jackson packing.  

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1 hour ago, TheRealT said:

Holly has some emotional issues, so I hope she gets the support she'll need after the show. I think she'll be devastated at how she was portrayed and how Jackson used her to win $500K, then dumped her to hook up with a bunch of younger women, probably at least semi-publicly. If he doesn't do another reality show, he'll certainly be posting about his great new life on SM all the time.

Agreed. I think Holly has made some bad choices here, but I don't think she's a bad or stupid person. I'm sad for her, and don't enjoy watching her enmeshed in this relationship, and living it out in the public eye. Those of us who have been there, even briefly, can relate, understand what's happening and hope she learns to make better choices in the future. Otherwise, her future holds more Jacksons. 

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19 minutes ago, Melina22 said:

Agreed. I think Holly has made some bad choices here, but I don't think she's a bad or stupid person. I'm sad for her, and don't enjoy watching her enmeshed in this relationship, and living it out in the public eye. Those of us who have been there, even briefly, can relate, understand what's happening and hope she learns to make better choices in the future. Otherwise, her future holds more Jacksons. 

She's definitely a lot smarter than the typical HG they cast for her "role."

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I wasn't a huge fan of either in the house, but I'd totally root for a Kat & Holly team on AR!  And would much rather see Holly get a chance to rehab her image than Jackson.  

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1 hour ago, Hanahope said:

I have to wonder, what could Nicole and Cliff do if Holly did win the F4 HoH?  threaten to vote out jackson if they won veto?  they would already do that (or at least should do that if they won).  did jackson really think if nicole and cliff got the choice, they'd vote to evict holly over him?

If Holly had won the F4 HoH:

  1. Cliff and Nicole would most certainly have been Holly’s initial Block noms.
  2. All 4 remaining HGs - Holly, Cliff, Jackson and Nicole - would have played for PoV.
  3. If either Holly or Jackson had won PoV, noms would have remained the same and one of the Cliff-Nicole pair would be evicted.
  4. If either Cliff or Nicole had won PoV they would have taken themself off the Block, Jackson would have gone up as the only available replacement nom, and the PoV winner would then proceed to vote Jackson off.

Basically a mirror image of what DID happen, so far as the couples were concerned - but not as far as Jackson as an individual was concerned.  If Holly won HoH AND Cliff-Nicole won PoV, then Jackson was 100% guaranteed to be going to Jury - but Holly not winning HoH meant (a) Cliff or Nicole would be HoH, and (b) Holly would be just as vulnerable to nomination/eviction as Jackson.  That plus a Cliff-Nicole PoV win cuts Jackson’s 100% guaranteed eviction odds in half, to a 50% chance between Jackson and Holly.

Jackson won PoV, as it turned out, so Holly’s vulnerability (or lack thereof) was ultimately a non-issue - but Jackson didn’t know that at the time of the HoH comp.  Jackson rooted for Holly to drop in the HoH comp so if luck should favor either Cliff or Nicole in the PoV comp, Jackson would have Holly available to sacrifice for his game.

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6 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

Yeah, and I'd love to see if Jackson owns that later. It'd be impressive. 

Yeah, but Jackson owning his shit would also be pretty damn near next to impossible as well.  Doing so would require display of a semblance of both character and backbone, and (despite his elocutions to the contrary) we ain’t seen much of either out of Jackson all season long.

And yeah, it DOES depress the fuck outta me to have to say that about a Tennessee boy.

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Tommy has got to ask the frame me question. I think at that point Jackson will not only say it’s true he’ll tell Tommy, Nicole & Cliff how he did it. I’m sure they’ll have the video queued up for it, too.

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3 hours ago, TheRealT said:

Holly has some emotional issues, so I hope she gets the support she'll need after the show. I think she'll be devastated at how she was portrayed and how Jackson used her to win $500K, then dumped her to hook up with a bunch of younger women, probably at least semi-publicly. If he doesn't do another reality show, he'll certainly be posting about his great new life on SM all the time.

Right, if you are insecure or lack some self confidence in an area of your life (such as romantic relationships) being isolated from your support system can really be difficult. 

I really hope Holly gets the support from friends and family (and maybe some professionals) that she needs because I think she will be devastated when she’s back in the real world. 

I can understand getting caught up in the emotional games of Jackson’s spiderweb of manipulation, shaming, and unhealthy relationship with watermelon (been there myself - with the exception of watermelons). However, her deciding to have sex (and a lot of it) On national TV via the live feeds - IMHO, that part is on her. But that part makes me sad for her also.

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I am disappointing the way Nicole and Cliff handle in the last couple of week. They had the chance to get rid of Mickie (whatever his name is) but noooooooooo they threw Tommy out. Cliff is gone, Cliff knew he regret to keep Mickie. Now Nicole stand alone and I don't like seeing Holly and Mickie the final 2. Sad very sad. This could have been better if they got rid Mickie and Holly earlier in the game, so the real competition begin. It did not happened. Next year I hope it be a better competition and enjoyable Big Brother Summer. Enjoy the tomorrow season finale of Big Brother. 

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It surprised me that Holly never saw through Jackson's insistence she drop in the F4 HOH They talked about C&N not being loyal and not being held to their F4 agreement. Sure she would agree to anything to not get evicted over Tommy but after she's safe, why the hell didn't she question Jackson's insistence that she drop. Did she maybe not understand that Nicole would be able to play in the veto? Holly isn't stupid but she lost her mind there. 

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1 hour ago, ByaNose said:

Tommy has got to ask the frame me question. I think at that point Jackson will not only say it’s true he’ll tell Tommy, Nicole & Cliff how he did it. I’m sure they’ll have the video queued up for it, too.

He did already tell Nicole he lied, and that it came from eavesdropping on their conversation with Tommy. I think after he saw Holly/Nicole getting a little too chummy, he decided to try and get ahead of that issue.

I'm definitely curious how he answers jury questions - he did rapid-fire Holly with a lot of questions she'd be asked by each HG and said she should think of how she'll explain how each eviction helped her game (he was trying to help, but it came off so patronizing), so he's definitely got answers prepared for the way he thinks he hurt each HG. I'm sure there will be plenty of "poor me, I was forced to play this way," but I wonder if it will matter if can clearly explain his strategy. Of course, jury questions don't matter much these days, anyway, since most of them have their vote locked in by then. Definitely wish they did the old format - plus, we'd get them all paranoid about them on the feeds. 

1 hour ago, Stats Queen said:

Right, if you are insecure or lack some self confidence in an area of your life (such as romantic relationships) being isolated from your support system can really be difficult. 

I really hope Holly gets the support from friends and family (and maybe some professionals) that she needs because I think she will be devastated when she’s back in the real world. 

I can understand getting caught up in the emotional games of Jackson’s spiderweb of manipulation, shaming, and unhealthy relationship with watermelon (been there myself - with the exception of watermelons). However, her deciding to have sex (and a lot of it) On national TV via the live feeds - IMHO, that part is on her. But that part makes me sad for her also.

Yep. Like, I felt bad for her that drunken night, even though she wasn't in the right either. But her point was that Jackson knew he was bothering her with The Challenge talk (Cliff and Nicole told him to stop because they could tell, too), but he wanted to make a point instead of caring about her feelings. 

To be fair, though, Kat did try to tell it to her straight and she wouldn't hear it, though. 

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3 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

Man, their reactions under the old format were hilarious. They would all get SO. DAMN. PARANOID.

I feel relieved for Holly that she doesn't have to go through that with him, at least. He'd be insufferable and mean to her if he felt she did better than he did. I can just hear her having to pump him up and tear herself down just to be able to make it through her time with him.

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2 minutes ago, mooses said:

I feel relieved for Holly that she doesn't have to go through that with him, at least. He'd be insufferable and mean to her if he felt she did better than he did. I can just hear her having to pump him up and tear herself down just to be able to make it through her time with him.

Excellent point. It would be so painful to watch. 

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5 hours ago, tinkerbell said:

If Holly wins, Jackson just might want to stick around for a bit.   But she then has the control, and she can take her money and send Jackson packing.  

I've thought about how it might affect their "relationship" if Holly wins. On the one hand, I could see that being incentive for Jackson to stick it out with her for longer, both to enjoy the spoils of her winnings (and possibly even guilt her into breaking him off a piece), and to have the opportunity to passive-aggressively punish her for beating him. He would LITERALLY NEVER STOP making comments about how she wouldn't have won without him; how it's great that she's paying for their trip to Hawaii, but she might as well since he's the one who got her the money; how you'd think that someone who completely owed him for winning $500K and the accompanying fame would insist that the energy drink sponsor who gave her an IG deal do the same for him; etc., etc., etc. That would be on top of, "Why are you wearing that outfit? Why did you tell me to get over myself? Why did you forget to get my protein shakes when you went grocery shopping?" I want to hurl myself off a cliff just thinking about how exhausting it would be to be in a relationship with him.

I don't think Holly would take her money and send Jackson packing, at least not for a while. If she won, she would totally buy into his narrative that she "stole" the victory from him and somehow wronged him, especially if he continued the relationship. It would be even worse/harder for her if they publicly stayed together, maintaining a "happy" facade while Jackson continued/escalated his emotional abuse in private. It's probably better for her if he wins and dumps her.

2 hours ago, Maggie Mae said:

It surprised me that Holly never saw through Jackson's insistence she drop in the F4 HOH They talked about C&N not being loyal and not being held to their F4 agreement. Sure she would agree to anything to not get evicted over Tommy but after she's safe, why the hell didn't she question Jackson's insistence that she drop. Did she maybe not understand that Nicole would be able to play in the veto? Holly isn't stupid but she lost her mind there. 

According to her subsequent conversations with Jackson, she didn't realize that not winning HOH would mean that she was guaranteed to go on the block as an original nom or replacement nom if one of the noms got vetoed. She seemed to be genuinely shocked and butt hurt when Jackson pointed this out to her.

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Just now, TheRealT said:

According to her subsequent conversations with Jackson, she didn't realize that not winning HOH would mean that she was guaranteed to go on the block as an original nom or replacement nom if one of the noms got vetoed. She seemed to be genuinely shocked and butt hurt when Jackson pointed this out to her.

Ooph, I missed that. Not a good moment for Holly if she seriously didn't understand that. YIkes.

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So this came to mind when I heard the news out of the U.S. this afternoon (and no, not delving into it specifically because it's so far off-topic, it's hiding under the couch with the dust bunnies, the pennies that Canada no longer uses, and probably all the stitch markers the cat steals whenever I pull them out): they never got their mid- to late season pop culture quiz/update, did they? I mean, Kim Kardashian didn't sprog or anything like that, there really hasn't been a lot of celebrity news that the HGs would probably care about, but it's odd. They usually get at least two or three fun facts from Julie at some point during a live show. 

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I really do think tomorrow’s final competition should be true/false questions about what happened in the world while they were in the house. With today’s big political news being the capper, of course. I remember they did something like that quite a few years ago but I think it was for something like a Veto comp.

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In case anyone is wondering, Nicole is giving her pitch to Holly. Giving it her all. Good for her. Never give up , never surrender ( Galaxy Quest).

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7 minutes ago, missyb said:

In case anyone is wondering, Nicole is giving her pitch to Holly. Giving it her all. Good for her. Never give up , never surrender ( Galaxy Quest).

Welp, if I'm gonna be stuck with this earworm, I'm hoping to take some of you down with me. Right before bed, too, damn it. 

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Voting for Nicole for AFH is my new "put on clean underwear" - do it in the morning before leaving for work, just in case something happens on the drive!  (Hopefully I'm not the only one old enough to remember those ancient motherly words of wisdom!)

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One added benefit to being on this forum is I sure have learned a lot about Canada! I’ve never seen the BB Canada edition but now I know about a store called The Brick, I’ve learned that sadly a hurricane in the Caribbean can actually affect our friends up North, I’ve learned how their health care system works and what a shock the American system is to them, I’ve learned that they have pennies they no longer use..,probably other things that are escaping me now bc it’s 8:30am and I’m hurrying.  I have a dear friend who is Canadian but these things have never come up. But it has been interesting and fun to learn from you guys and I hope you all have a good winter, till we meet again next year (or tonight actually, after what I hope is a satisfying finale) 

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Too bad someone hasn't flown a banner over the jury house re Jackson's popularity with America... not!!

Also, was Holly angry with Jackson when she FINALLY figured out how he screwed her out of safety in F4 HOH? I mean, did she figure out it was all to keep him safe??

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13 hours ago, BigMonkey2019 said:

This could have been better if they got rid Mickie and Holly earlier in the game, so the real competition begin.

It's like, I agree with this but at the same time if that had happened we easily could be sitting here waiting to watch Christie/Tommy in the F2 and I'm not sure that's better. Actually, I think it is better, but still. I do think Nicole should have just broke her deal and taken a shot at Jackson at the DE but honestly it likely wouldn't have happened anyway and she would have ended up going earlier. It's tough.

12 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

Here are all the good-bye messages in one Youtube in case anyone missed them:

Did Christie not get GB messages?

2 hours ago, GeorgiaRai said:

Voting for Nicole for AFH is my new "put on clean underwear" - do it in the morning before leaving for work, just in case something happens on the drive! 

Thanks for reminding me to get in my last votes for Kemi. Yesterday I accidentally voted for Holly once because she's right above Kemi and I was so distraught lol.

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52 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Did Christie not get GB messages?

Nope; the second evictee in a DE never gets GBMs, because there’s no time to record them.

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Just now, Nashville said:

Nope; the second evictee in a DE never gets GBMs, because there’s no time to record them.

I literally forgot Christie went in the DE even though earlier in that post I talked about Nicole targeting Jackson over Christie in the DE. Yep lol.

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3 hours ago, GeorgiaRai said:

Voting for Nicole for AFH is my new "put on clean underwear" - do it in the morning before leaving for work, just in case something happens on the drive!  (Hopefully I'm not the only one old enough to remember those ancient motherly words of wisdom!)

I'll take on this flashback!

I always wondered about this "momism" when I was a kid.  You mean the ambulance driver will scoop my brains off the street, but if he sees my dirty undies, he'll be squicked out and say "uh nope, this is just too gross, someone else needs to get this one"?  OR the other take is that Mom's overwhelming sorrow of having to identify my body in the morgue will be overridden by her humiliation that said body has on skidmarked tighty whiteys.  "Nope, not my kid, can't be.  My kid had on clean underwear." 

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1 hour ago, Maggie Mae said:

Also, was Holly angry with Jackson when she FINALLY figured out how he screwed her out of safety in F4 HOH? I mean, did she figure out it was all to keep him safe??

No, she was angry with Cliff and Nicole (naturally).

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The only way McBeth is going to work out is if Momma Michie is willing to pack up and move with Jackson to wherever he and Holly set up house, unless Holly plans to move into the Michie's guest bedroom in TN.  No one cuts watermelon and pours chocolate milk like Momma, after all.

Yeah, I give this relationship until tomorrow afternoon.

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I watched some BBAD last  night.  Hahahaha!

Since F3 only in the house......Nicole won’t stop talking in annoying fake accents.

Her insecurities and social awkwardness is on some next level!  

Ok.....I hope Holly wins.  

She also has her personality issues.....but, is not immature and weird like Nicole.

I hope we get a treat tonight......and, do NOT see Jackson take 1st! 

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