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S09.E15: One Wedding And A Polygraph


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3 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

Camille wanted all the attention, so she made them wear dowdy high cut dresses, but she has her boobs out for all to see.

Could be true, but I personally prefer a somewhat modest bridesmaid dress. I’ve been a bridesmaid where the dress was more revealing than I was comfortable with. I don’t like showing a lot of boob! 

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If you want to use a lie detector to prove something of course you would choose the questions - even if it was about yourself.  Without knowing anything about it, the harpies jumped to discredit and disparage it.  That explains everything.....

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The thing I found odd about the lie detector test was that Lisa could see the monitor with the needle moving. I thought  she was supposed to sit opposite of the monitor and the man administrating the test. 

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I loved the lie detector test -- and the cliffhanger. It's the most genuinely engaged I have felt with the show for weeks. Total boss move.

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1 hour ago, KungFuBunny said:

Why are they all piling into a Clown Car?

😂😂😂 great question.  Just don't ask high ass Mauricio  The car and Mauricio were the best part.

Oh, God  I want to go to Hawaii. 

After this season no more Camille,  I cant stand her.

Is Erika still a HW? I admit I have been FF her  a lot. I dont need to see her perform.  I just feel like she's barely been on this season . Did they even mention her?

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1 hour ago, DivaLasVegas82 said:

One more thing: I feel like Denise still has some unresolved feelings over her divorce from Charlie Sheen. She finds a way to bring him up every other episode. I can't believe he wouldn't let her talk to Patrick when they were married. Meanwhile, he was probably screwing every hooker, stripper, and porn star in town.

Denise's claim to fame in the past however many years is Charlie Sheen. If it wasn't for that shit show of a marriage exploding all over the tabloids, she'd be best remembered as the pretty girl who (hilariously) played two stupidly intelligent characters in movies: Starship Troopers and whatever Bond movie she did. At best, she does - what? - guest starring roles on sitcomes and Hallmark or Lifetime movies? 

21 minutes ago, Jel said:

And the nerve of these women. The "Lisa gave a story to Radar Online!" accusations went on for episodes, and now, suddenly, they are all "OMG we didn't evun CAHR about the Radar Online story!".  Gaslighters.

If it wasn't for that, we'd have had a whole season of Denise drunkenly dropping Charlie Sheen references in between talking about how big Aaron's dick is. 

Wow. I never thought I'd be thankful for the Lucy Lucy Apple Juicy/Radar Online bullshit.

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55 minutes ago, renatae said:

First off, a disclaimer. Lie detector tests are flawed and cannot be used in court because of this.

However, I don't understand why you think the examiner is "not supposed to know" what questions to ask. Is he just supposed to ask a bunch of random questions? What would be the point of that? I can just see law enforcement telling examiners to just ask what pops into their heads.

As unreliable as the tests are, they would be a complete farce if there was no direction taken in questioning. It's totally immaterial that Lisa told him what questions to ask.

I think you misunderstand what I am saying. Of course he had to get the questions from Lisa and Sessa. Which automatically means that the idea that this test can be objective is called into question. 

It's like a candidate being handed the debate questions before going into a political debate. Actually, it's more than that- it's like a political candidate writing the debate questions before the debate. Of course that candidate is going to do a good job if they get to frame the question and practice the answer.

So yeah, I don't blame the polygraph guy for getting the questions from them beforehand. He wouldn't know what to ask without it. But the premise if this test as anything other than a face-saving measure for LVP is fundamentally flawed. 

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I realized tonight, with Camille getting married, that all the women on this show are actually housewives. Most of the other RH shows barely have any actual HWs, heck NY doesn’t have a married woman in the bunch.

Oh and that lie detector test was a joke.

That’s all I have.

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2 hours ago, Steph J said:

I dare say it was kind of... pathetic.

The usually hyper-image conscious LVP really miscalculated how that scene would look, I think.

The old gal is slipping big time.  This after her boring kitchen remodel.  And she was a mess at the VPR reunion and their ratings have sucked.  If she is so distraught, she needs to leave and give viewers a break from her poor victim act.  And that John Sensa is such a snake.

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1 hour ago, renatae said:

First off, a disclaimer. Lie detector tests are flawed and cannot be used in court because of this.

However, I don't understand why you think the examiner is "not supposed to know" what questions to ask. Is he just supposed to ask a bunch of random questions? What would be the point of that? I can just see law enforcement telling examiners to just ask what pops into their heads.

As unreliable as the tests are, they would be a complete farce if there was no direction taken in questioning. It's totally immaterial that Lisa told him what questions to ask.

Absolutely he needs to have some input from somewhere - he did ask some baseline questions like  do you live in LA etc.  I am actually so sick of this whole thing I can't even read about now.

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26 minutes ago, Coffeewinewater said:

 Just don't ask high ass Mauricio 

The only thing I want to ask him is for his contact because that must have been some truly amazing Maui Wowie that he was puff, puff, not passing. 

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44 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Give me a break with the lie detector test.  I've never heard of a polygraph being given with a friend and dog in the room.  And why wasn't Lisa asked to lie so the polygrapher can measure reaction to gauge it.  A true polygraph takes time to administer.  This took five minutes?   Sorry, I know too many people who have undergone it for Top Secret clearance.  I also watch Dr. Phil (don't judge me).  LVP looked like a fool.

Do the administrators of the test usually wear a shirt with their name and "Polygraph Examiner" stitched across the breast? 😄 

I am also calling bullshit on how the ladies found out - I sincerely doubt that someone spotted LVP and two of her housepets at the police station 🙄

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49 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Give me a break with the lie detector test.  I've never heard of a polygraph being given with a friend and dog in the room.  And why wasn't Lisa asked to lie so the polygrapher can measure reaction to gauge it.  A true polygraph takes time to administer.  This took five minutes?   Sorry, I know too many people who have undergone it for Top Secret clearance.  I also watch Dr. Phil (don't judge me).  LVP looked like a fool.

Does LVP not know the sordid history of the lie detector test on reality TV?  From Dr. Phil to Jerry Springer to Meet My Parents, there aren't many ways to more quickly signal "What you are watching is trashy bullshit" than a lie detector test.

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1 minute ago, ninjago said:

Does LVP not know the sordid history of the lie detector test on reality TV?  From Dr. Phil to Jerry Springer to Meet My Parents, there aren't many ways to more quickly signal "What you are watching is trashy bullshit" than a lie detector test.

Sooo... a Real HoWives show? This ain't exactly Masterpiece Theater, she types as she watches Rinna dress up like Erika and yell "Pat the pussy!". 

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2 hours ago, BodhiGurl said:

had to love that moment Rinna sniffed the pasta, and then took half a forkful... and then was done eating...

5 minutes ago, walnutqueen said:

Pasta is to be snorted, not sniffed.  Just ask DJ  Muppet Baby (aka James on VPR).

Dang @walnutqueen three pages in and you beat me by five minutes 🤣

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So Teddi thinks going on a vacation to a beautiful place like Hawaii is what makes you a good friend simply because you went? Think again, deluded one! And don't expect the viewers to buy your crap.

And, Rinna, with the dig about not having to spend time with her husband is pretty telling...he obviously doesn't want to spend time with her!

Hell, even her dog wants nothing to do with her.

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The stuff with Teddi and her business....I don't know. Edwin was awfully dismissive of her concerns and the obvious distress the kids are in.  I don't think the answer, based on how we've seen her kids acting, is as simple as, "If you're happy, they'll be happy".    I would hope they would have some help with the transition for the kids.

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3 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

I think LVP told that guy what questions to ask her. Sounded so fake. 

I would halfway believe the lie detector test (not really) if one of the questions had been, "Have you ever sold a story to Radar Online or any other tabloid?"  As it was it couldn't have been any more fake, phoney and stupid.  I lost all respect for Vanderpump at this point.  

I'm just really bored with this season.  Puppygate is dragging on longer than Munchausengate.   It's actually making me look forward to Brandi Glanville's appearance and I can't stand that woman.  

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39 minutes ago, endure said:

Rinna expounding on her marriage to Harry Hamlin, really, do they spend any time doing things together?

I get the feeling Harry Hamlin avoids being filmed because he doesn't want any skeletons to be dug up about him.  You know, out of sight, out of mind.  The incident with Kim Richard's where Rinna broke the glass probably hit too close to home and made him camera shy.  His secrets came way too close to being exposed. 

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3 hours ago, TexasGal said:

Gorgeous!

Did I miss Dorit playing the game about PK?

I think they just decided that listening to delusional Dorit wax poetic about P.K.’s traits would be too puke worthy. I thank the editing monkeys for saving us from that.

2 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

Oh yea! Let's start the show with Lisa V and Dr. John who is trying way to hard to encapsulate both male and female traits. He makes sure his package is known. But he has collagen lips and fake eyelashes. What bothers me isn't his ambiguous androgyny. It's how completely unnatural he looks, and the effort he puts in to look so strange. The lie detector thing was pretty dumb. Lisa V may be smart, but she sure isn't mature.

Eek! This feels about as appropriate as LVP’s joke about Erika “tucking”... how do we know how much he is trying to encapsulate gendered traits? And why does that even matter? He does look pretty fake, but I think we can acknowledge that without questioning his gender presentation.

1 hour ago, Callaphera said:

Denise's claim to fame in the past however many years is Charlie Sheen. If it wasn't for that shit show of a marriage exploding all over the tabloids, she'd be best remembered as the pretty girl who (hilariously) played two stupidly intelligent characters in movies: Starship Troopers and whatever Bond movie she did. At best, she does - what? - guest starring roles on sitcomes and Hallmark or Lifetime movies? 

As a teen in the 90s, I best remember Denise Richards as the hot girl who made out with Neve Campbell in a pool because every boy would not shut up about it.

I couldn’t tell whether it was Teddi or Rinna who said she had never been a bridesmaid. Either way, it tracks. For entirely different reasons, I can’t imagine wanting either of them in a wedding party.

Damnit, @ivygirl and @walnutqueen. You both beat me to the DJ Muppet Baby pasta reference. 🤣

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2 hours ago, Gem 10 said:

Camille wanted all the attention, so she made them wear dowdy high cut dresses, but she has her boobs out for all to see.

I so agree on the dowdy bridesmaid dresses. They looked they were out of a Talbots catalogue. Junior league. Plus navy in Hawaii????

Fraser divorce $$$$ money paid for a beautiful wedding in an exotic location. Don't ugly it up with those awful navy dresses. *cough*

And its so weird to have "women of a certain age" try to look like youthful girlish bridesmaids wearing traditional dresses. Also please, Camille, its your 2nd wedding. You are 50 yrs old. You've been around they block, as they say. 

Let your friends enjoy themselves and celebrate your wedding .....as guests.

Sure, Tamra did the same thing at her wedding, and whats her name from the most recent New Jersey season. All those bridesmaids dresses were corny, hokey, ridiculous. Also is having a gaggle of bridesmaids.  I could see, the bride having her one very dearest friend, and/or sister, and/or daughter. But sheesh, thats enough. 

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I love the newest trend of the bride choosing a color palette or theme, then let the bridesmaid choose what they want to wear, that fits their figures and personal style and go with it.  Thus, all the bridesmaids wear something different. 

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1 hour ago, Callaphera said:

Denise's claim to fame in the past however many years is Charlie Sheen. If it wasn't for that shit show of a marriage exploding all over the tabloids, she'd be best remembered as the pretty girl who (hilariously) played two stupidly intelligent characters in movies: Starship Troopers and whatever Bond movie she did. At best, she does - what? - guest starring roles on sitcomes and Hallmark or Lifetime movies? 

If it wasn't for that, we'd have had a whole season of Denise drunkenly dropping Charlie Sheen references in between talking about how big Aaron's dick is. 

Wow. I never thought I'd be thankful for the Lucy Lucy Apple Juicy/Radar Online bullshit.

True. Her biggest claim to fame was being married to Charlie Sheen. But I still feel like she hasn't fully dealt with how their marriage ended. I guess I can somewhat understand that since they do share two daughters together. She probably wished she had been able to make it work.

I'll always be remember her for her role in "Wild Things." Terrible movie, bur that threesome scene between her, Neve Campbell, and Matt Dillion was sexy.

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1 hour ago, ivygirl said:

Dang @walnutqueen three pages in and you beat me by five minutes 🤣

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Hey, everyone on the not-so-right coast gets to see this shitshow 3 hours earlier than us lefties, so almost all the good snark has been said & done.  I'm just getting my licks in before the referee drops the puck. (Canadian, eh).

<insert Camille shrug gif here>

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Dorit wore a scrunchy to the wedding! Has she never seen Sex and the City?

Camille’s daughter did not look happy to be involved in her mom's wedding. I wish we had seen a little more of her. I love Camille’s mom and hope her travel to Hawaii didn’t take too much out of her. 

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4 minutes ago, walnutqueen said:

Hey, everyone on the not-so-right coast gets to see this shitshow 3 hours earlier than us lefties, so almost all the good snark has been said & done.  I'm just getting my licks in before the referee drops the puck. (Canadian, eh).

<insert Camille shrug gif here>

Not so fast, I am a leftie too 🤣 i indulge the part of me that wants to read to keep up!

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3 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Why are they all piling into a Clown Car?

🤣🤣🤣🤣  And they almost dragged that one bridesmaid!  Who was driving it?  That was the only scene that didn't make me yawn! 

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2 hours ago, princelina said:

Do the administrators of the test usually wear a shirt with their name and "Polygraph Examiner" stitched across the breast? 😄 

I am also calling bullshit on how the ladies found out - I sincerely doubt that someone spotted LVP and two of her housepets at the police station 🙄

She wasn't at a police station - it was a private polygraph examiner. From the looks of his office he rents in the same strip mall where Denise found a massage parlour that would give Aaron a happy ending. His desk was either full of scratches and chips, or covered in food crumbs. 

I don't watch Dr Phil or any of the other shock shows that give polygraphs, but I do watch a lot of true crime shows. I have never seen someone getting a polygraph where they are bundled up in so many clothes. LVP had on a blouse, a blazer and a scarf. A friggin' scarf that she didn't even take off. She looks even guiltier now than she did before the polygraph. She is really losing her shit. 

Stoned Mauricio is pretty funny. When he talked about how wonderful it was that Camille and David were on their second marriages, I was wondering if he was picturing his, with someone who will give him a son to carry on his name. I also thought it was odd that both of the times he and Kyle were taking the limo with the group, he sat in the back and she sat in the front. Wouldn't you think as one of only two couples there, they would sit together? 

Last week when they showed Camille in her wedding dress, I thought the material/pattern looked a lot like a bathing suit coverup I had in the 70s. Then when they showed the group arriving at her house, I thought "Why is she wearing her wedding dress now?" Odd that the two dresses looked similar in style and pattern. I didn't mind the bridesmaid dresses but thought they should have been short. Hated the flower head gear. They looked like child attendants at a royal wedding. 

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25 minutes ago, swankie said:

I get the feeling Harry Hamlin avoids being filmed because he doesn't want any skeletons to be dug up about him.  You know, out of sight, out of mind.  The incident with Kim Richard's where Rinna broke the glass probably hit too close to home and made him camera shy.  His secrets came way too close to being exposed. 

I agree. I find it hard to believe that after being married for 21 years, the only thing about Harry that bothers Rinna is that he chews blue gum. WTF? She could have at least said something like, "He leaves the toilet seat up."

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11 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

I totally forgot about that movie! 

I had even asked the husband what he remembered Denise Richards from, besides Charlie Sheen and his answer was: "Remember? She played the hot girl in the bikini in the last Malibu Sands episode on Saved by the Bell? She was the one who pretended to drown and had Lifeguard Slater save her so that she could tell him he was hot and he asked her to go to the staff farewell party?" 

I mean... I married him for a reason, ladies. That's all mine. *clicks tongue, makes finger guns*

Whoa! I didn’t remember she was in Saved by the Bell. Your husband sounds like a damn impressive guy, Callaphera.

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14 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

I totally forgot about that movie! 

I had even asked the husband what he remembered Denise Richards from, besides Charlie Sheen and his answer was: "Remember? She played the hot girl in the bikini in the last Malibu Sands episode on Saved by the Bell? She was the one who pretended to drown and had Lifeguard Slater save her so that she could tell him he was hot and he asked her to go to the staff farewell party?" 

I mean... I married him for a reason, ladies. That's all mine. *clicks tongue, makes finger guns*

LoL. Your husband has a great memory. I remember that "Saved by the Bell" episode too.

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1 hour ago, ninjago said:

The stuff with Teddi and her business....I don't know. Edwin was awfully dismissive of her concerns and the obvious distress the kids are in.  I don't think the answer, based on how we've seen her kids acting, is as simple as, "If you're happy, they'll be happy".    I would hope they would have some help with the transition for the kids.

I think the kids are just use to her being home all the time. Now that she's working more, they act out, especially Cruz. I applaud Teddi for wanting to work. If my father was a legendary rock 'n roller, I would find it hard to find the motivation.

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9 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

I totally forgot about that movie! 

I had even asked the husband what he remembered Denise Richards from, besides Charlie Sheen and his answer was: "Remember? She played the hot girl in the bikini in the last Malibu Sands episode on Saved by the Bell? She was the one who pretended to drown and had Lifeguard Slater save her so that she could tell him he was hot and he asked her to go to the staff farewell party?" 

I mean... I married him for a reason, ladies. That's all mine. *clicks tongue, makes finger guns*

I watched her reality show (for the critters), but only remember seeing her in the last airport scene in Love, Actually.

3 minutes ago, ivygirl said:

Not so fast, I am a leftie too 🤣 i indulge the part of me that wants to read to keep up!

Ditto, babe!

Or : "moi aussi" if you're in the mood for bi-lingual.

1 minute ago, DivaLasVegas82 said:

I agree. I find it hard to believe that after being married for 21 years, the only thing about Harry that bothers Rinna is that he chews blue gum. WTF? She could have at least said something like, "He leaves the toilet seat up."

Or "he makes gross noises when I use the strap-on".

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7 minutes ago, DivaLasVegas82 said:

LoL. Your husband has a great memory. I remember that "Saved by the Bell" episode too.

Did you also point at the screen when Patrick Muldoon showed up and yell, "That Jeff asshole! He's the one who broke up Zack and Kelly!" 'Cause he totally did that tonight, too.

I always said that if we ever divorced, the one bone of contention between us would be who gets custody of the Saved by the Bell DVD boxed sets. It was one of the first things we bonded over when we met. 

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I fully expected Maurgreasio to say this about Kyle:

"My wife, Kyle, is AH-MAZ-ING! The best thing about my wife is that she can do the splits on any surface! She can also twirl a mean ponytail."

"The worst part about my AH-MAZ-ING wife is that she's a neurotic, anxiety-ridden mess!" 

Teddi and Eddie Munster Jr will get a divorce after she's booted for the show.  Teddi is too much of a ball buster, and  he is acts like the 3rd child. "Did YOU pack your underoos yet, Edwin?"  Maybe he likes being told what to do, but after some point it'll get exhausting to be around helicopter Teddi. 

Lisa. No one believes the polygraph test, and that dude was paid to say whatever Lisa andJohnBoi told him to say.   The guy was sketchy af. Some back-alley conman like Saul Goodman. I laughed at the rough looking  gaming chairs in his office, and that almost every surface of his office, and his shirt said POLYGRAPH on it, because if it says polygraph it is legit! He's  a professional with over 20 years experience folks! Believe me!

And is it possible for Lisa to go anywhere without some poor dog being carried around like an overstuffed purse?

I loved Camille's home, and the wedding location, but basically feel that Camille is pretty empty inside as a person. 

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18 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Did you also point at the screen when Patrick Muldoon showed up and yell, "That Jeff asshole! He's the one who broke up Zack and Kelly!" 'Cause he totally did that tonight, too.

I always said that if we ever divorced, the one bone of contention between us would be who gets custody of the Saved by the Bell DVD boxed sets. It was one of the first things we bonded over when we met. 

I really need to do a complete rewatch of Saved by the Bell! So many things I am not remembering... I think Dawson’s Creek trivia is taking up critical space in my brain.

It sounds like you two are perfect for each other. ❤️

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7 minutes ago, MrsWitter said:

I really need to do a complete rewatch of Saved by the Bell! So many things I am not remembering... I think Dawson’s Creek trivia is taking up critical space in my brain.

Hope you didn’t forget this scene... 

Reminds me of Kyle after one too many tequilas

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53 minutes ago, DivaLasVegas82 said:

I agree. I find it hard to believe that after being married for 21 years, the only thing about Harry that bothers Rinna is that he chews blue gum. WTF? She could have at least said something like, "He leaves the toilet seat up."

Or "he makes gross noises when I use the strap-on".

Or, "He beats me when yaw ain't here." 

Just kidding!!!  Had to throw a little Color Purple in there.  🤣🤣🤣

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4 hours ago, DivaLasVegas82 said:

One more thing: I feel like Denise still has some unresolved feelings over her divorce from Charlie Sheen. She finds a way to bring him up every other episode. I can't believe he wouldn't let her talk to Patrick when they were married. Meanwhile, he was probably screwing every hooker, stripper, and porn star in town.

I think she was brought on with the explicit expectation that she spill hot gossip about Charlie. However, I do think she talks about him because he's a still active chaos engine in her life. Remember Denise did have custody of his sons with Brooke Mueller for a time. Then there was his admissions that he was HIV positive and had blown a lot of his fortune. The man is a disaster and it spills out to everyone around him.

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