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53 minutes ago, ShaNaeNae said:

I'll have to watch the link later (I'm at work), but are they divorced?  So all this time on the show, she's been single?  I just figured the husband didn't want to be apart of this trash cannister. 

You know what struck me as funny?  Twice they've shown Angelica in bed just waking up (which I'm sure was just a reenactment) and Sunhe coming in to greet her in the morning.  But on the first episode they stated they sleep together and spoon.  Was this just said to up the ew factor?  Cause she was clearly sleeping alone (other half of the bed was made). 

That’s her ex husband. Divorced quite a while ago. She’s single, but not unattached. 

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On 8/1/2019 at 11:37 PM, chuckity said:

South side Polack goes like this ... chicken beef and polish sausage.  

Also, they're not technically from Chicago ... as a native Chicagoan, this irritates me to no end.

And lastly, the mom Kathy looked familar ... and BINGO ... for your watching pleasure:

Anybody know what the time frame was from her appearance on the Oprah show and the clip she features in the show? I see some weight gain, but she actually looks like a female when she's pointing out all those 5 inch tv's. But when she's on Oprah's couch, she's transformed into what we she now. 

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Cher is a relationship expert and THE NYC WINGWOMAN:

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On 12/27/2019 at 7:01 AM, druzy said:

Cher is a relationship expert and THE NYC WINGWOMAN:

 

 *giant eye roll*  I didn’t think Cher could get more obnoxious, but here we are.

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WHY DID I WATCH THE MARATHON?!

Also, if I have to see the commercial for the next season where the one mom slobbers and slurps all over her daughter one more time, I might vomit. 

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On 1/11/2020 at 10:03 AM, PityFree said:

 *giant eye roll*  I didn’t think Cher could get more obnoxious, but here we are.

She's hella thirsty for bigger TV gigs and a celebrity presence.  It's a shame because she'd be so much more likable if she'd act like a normal person.

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Watching it now.  This is brutal.  I'm calling time of death at 7:25, Pacific Coast time.

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All of these mother/daughter relationships are bothersome,  but the worst has to be the mother who licks her daughter to wake her up 🤢🤮

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Cher is a relationship expert and THE NYC WINGWOMAN

“Je ne said qua”!

Sunhee belongs on the ID channel.

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Brittani's mom needs to let her grow up and stand on her own. No cop is going to get respect when they know her mommy washes her every day. And she needs some damn friends her own age. She's not freakishly large any more. That dead-eyed stare, though. Brittani is completely affectless. They're going to find Frank in pieces along a 20-mile stretch of interstate someday soon. (Wait, there are two siblings? Did Brittani make them disappear or did they get lives and move out?) 

And Mary just lets her get away with her smart-ass mouth with Frank. I think she likes setting Brittani on him so she can pretend she's not actually punishing him herself. Mary, either forgive him one fucking naked lap dance or break up with him. (I can't tell if they were claiming he boned the stripper or he just got the lap dance. Either way, shit or get off the pot, honey.)

Sunghe: "And then you would find someone like me and that would be paradise" No... you mean "someone who agrees with me". Someone LIKE you would be a controlling, passive-aggressive bitch who would constantly interfere with all her other relationships. Angelica, so glad you seem to have grown a spine and are standing up for yourself against Mom a little. But you should have stayed the fuck out of Jason AND VIVIANA's divorce. That's none of your business; that's not Sunghe's business. 

Oh, god, Jason's a 'purse-dog and pedicures' guy? 

Disgusting moist slurping aside, Alana and Marcia just seems like a case of infantilization that the daughter doesn't want to give up yet. She's only 21, she's been through a lot in her life between her condition and starting life in a Russian orphanage (which can usually end in an attachment disorder, not an overabundance of attatchment), and she does live on her own and is going to college? And Marcia realizes that Alana needs to become independent, unlike some of these psycho moms.

Kathy seriously drives five houses? Jesus, bitch, try walking instead of driving backwards an entire block on a residential street. These two need to get jobs or something; do something useful with themselves instead of living life from holiday to holiday to give their lives purpose. They also THRIVE on ambushing in public to put people who weren't socialized by wolves on the spot to placate them. 

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51 minutes ago, CoyoteBlue said:

Brittani's mom needs to let her grow up and stand on her own. No cop is going to get respect when they know her mommy washes her every day.

Filming this show may have put an end to Brittani's "police career."  She's only 19, so I don't know what kind of a police department would be hiring her...yet.  AND she was thrilled to get an 84 on her last test.  Not impressive.

Great judgment too; outing her mom's non-marriage on national television.  The tailor shop will suffer a loss of business ... or a BIG increase.

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Brittany and her mom the whole episode ominously saying, "What Frank did at his bachelor party," I was expecting that he had sex with a prostitute and accidentally killed her. Or something like that. Then it ended up being, he got drunk, got a lap dance, went home, watched porn, and jerked off. Like, that's it? I might be annoyed by that, but I definitely wouldn't let that stop me from getting married and then hold it over his head for months and years on end. Like, lady, get over it. YMMV, but I definitely don't consider that cheating.

I hope we get to see siblings again this season. The siblings seem to be the Greek Chorus on this show. 

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I really wish more people were watching this train wreck so there were more people to hate watch it with. 🙂 The kissing mother and daughter, the showering mother and daughter, Sunhe the gigantic narcissist, Dawn who desperately tries to pretend she is actually her daughter's twin sister, Kathy, who is a love child of KISS and the Muppet cast, etc. -- it's all gold.

What really bothers me are the instances where one of the mother/daughter pair crosses a line with the other person's significant other, and then the one who didn't actively plan whatever it was denies any responsibility for it. Like when Jared didn't like that Dawn sprang the Lamaze class on Cher, and he said, "So, you planned this and then..." and Cher interrupts and says, "I didn't plan anything!" Yet she did it anyway, knowing that doing so would upset Jared. When Mary's feauxsband said "We think you should move out", Mary piped up, "He. He thinks you should move out. Not me." Or when Kathy thinks it's fine to go harass Carlo at work or the gym or wherever he is just because Kathy has zero chill (I will point out three hours/day at the gym is EXCESSIVE). I think it's unfair to act like you bear no responsibility for things that are upsetting your partner and you know it.

Random observations:

Sunhe never calls Angelica anything other than "Angelica." No shortening, no nickname, nothing. When she was a toddler/child that would have been exhausting. It still is, honestly.

If someone could convince Kathy orange is not a skin tone or to stop lining her tiny eyes with black eyeliner and dressing like a drag queen reject, it would be a remarkable improvement.

The way Mary and Brittani were acting about "What Frank Did" , you would have thought he participated in an orgy at an S&M club and then murdered all the participants afterward. 🙄

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2 hours ago, JessicaJones18 said:

The way Mary and Brittani were acting about "What Frank Did" , you would have thought he participated in an orgy at an S&M club and then murdered all the participants afterward. 🙄

I kept waiting for the big revelation and afterwards I was thinking "That's it?" They're one couple where it seems like the daughter is more attached to her mother instead of  the mom being the clingy one. 

  I could only watch bits  and pieces of the pair where the mom kisses the daughter awake and then they chase each other around the living room.  I find it really hard to believe they do that on a daily basis.

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Good god I just found out that season 2 started of this train wreck lol let’s see what nuts is gonna happen this time 

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This season all just seems completely contrived.

And, if I understand correctly, Frank isn’t allowed to whack off?  He should’ve just fucked the stripper. 
 

 

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Ok creepy the bad seed vibes coming from that one daughter who showers with her mom Good Gravy 

 

Marcia and alena ... umm she is 21? You let your mother pretend to be a dog and chase each other around the house with I’m gonna get you and you don’t see how that’s psychologically like a bit Off? Just because she is still small like a child feeds into it a lot I’m sure but it’s creepy 

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Howdy, howdy...I'll toss my gasoline soaked (drawers) hat into the ring here and add to the commenting. Now that M600PL is over, I need something else to piss off my husband and send him out of the living room at least once a week. 

What happened to the "Tush Sisters" from last season? Will we get an update on Mariah and Mom?

When I was dabbling in IG last year, I followed Angelica and she immediately followed me back! That was rather surprising as rarely do these TLC participants do that (well, outside of some M600PL ones). I just want to see Angelica without her mask of colored contacts and "make me Asian/white" makeup. I know she's biracial and I think she probably looks mostly African-American in her natural/unmade up state. She probably looks more attractive that way.

I hate to generalize people with genetic disorders, but Alena reminds me very much in the face of Jennifer Arnold of The Little Couple. What's the deal with Mom, did she adopt as a single Mother? Is there a father in the pic at all? Alena was so starved as a child for a "Mommy" (from their story of meeting at the orphanage) she latched right on to Mom's insanity and went with it. 

Brittani and "my face is frozen" Mary...lay off the Botox, Mom. Brittani is all sorts of awkward. No wonder Mary is always praising her, she's a giant Eeyore. I can't for the life of me see this girl as a...cop?? Maybe sticking only to writing parking tickets? And they all three live together? How does that work when Brittani refuses to be around Frank?

Anyone notice that Sarah's eyes are so pitch-black she resembles the Pixar character "Coraline" with the button eyes? LOL. Those two seem basically harmless although it sounded like Laurie would have wanted more children but let Sarah rule the roost from day one. 

Not a lot I can say regarding Dawn and Cher because my ears bleed whenever they speak. Can't wait to see the matching outfits with the baby...maybe Dawn will coordinate with matching headband bows and ruffled ankle socks. 

Kathy and Cristina are the stars of the show to me. As I said last season, Kathy is the love child of actor Paul Sorvino and Paul Stanley of KISS. As nutty as she comes across, I just love her and now want to decorate like mad for the next holiday. That's quite the crib she lives in and wonder where the money comes from. A very successful divorce?

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If I understand the Florida Mother/Daughter, the daughter said the mother and Frank are "not really married".  Then the Mother said, I think, that when she got home from the wedding she found out that Frank beat off to online porn and "tore up the papers" and "so we're not really married."

I checked Florida law and that's . . . not accurate.

The officiant is required to file a Certificate of Marriage with the County Clerk within ten days of the ceremony.  But even where the Certificate is never filed a marriage can be proven by affidavit stating that the valid ceremony occurred.

So, unless the Mother was talking about tearing up the Marriage License before the wedding and never going through with the ceremony, then in the eyes of the law they're married.

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No idea why I watched this , but the daughter who just graduated to be a correctional guard acts like she is about 8 years old. No way she could handle working in a prison. And her mother looks like she has no neck like Big Ed. Did not need to see the colonics scene- yuk!

The daughter who is a little person seems way too dependent on her mom- I wish she would spend more time finding friends and less time dreaming about having Liam Helmsworth as a boyfriend. 

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On 5/28/2020 at 6:22 PM, snarkish said:

Me again, obviously bored. Found an obituary for Kathy's husband, died last year:

I read it.  Poor guy.  Didn't seem to have any other life or accomplishments except for "caring for" this relative and that relative, and this relative.  At least those who wrote on his obituary page said nice things...called him a legend.  RIP, Joseph.

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I so wanted Viviana to tell Sunhe to fuck off and that she didn't owe Sunhe any answers. Of all the fucked up mother-daughter relationships on this show, I feel like her relationship with Angelica is the most abusive. 

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18 hours ago, MerBearStare said:

I so wanted Viviana to tell Sunhe to fuck off and that she didn't owe Sunhe any answers.

And of course her wimpy weasel of a husband didn't give her a warning or even a suggestion that she "might" want to bring a friend/sister/mother/bodyguard.

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God I can't stand Sunhe, if I were her daughter, I would move far far away and ditch the blue contacts too. I FF though Cher and her mom, they are boring and their voices just annoy me. Brittany looks like she should be on the other side of the bars, did I hear correctly that she is going to be a police officer or is it a corrections officer ?  To Elena's mom, stop treating her like she is 3 years old, pretty gross with the licking, doggy shit going on. I do find Kathy amusing, however I feel for the other daughter that we met last season. Sorry to hear her husband passed.

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I wish this page got more activity and snark!

Still hoping for an update on Sandra and Mariah from last season, but wonder if that was a "one hit wonder". 

The bombarding Carlo at the gym was all for the cameras, obviously. Looked very scripted/staged. Did Kathy say air mattresses?? For SIX MONTHS?

Grossest part of this episode was Mary's face while she was basically trying to take a dump on the table. You really have to have zero class to have something like that broadcasted on TV. Surprised they didn't show us the prize in the potty. Way to mess up your gut flora there, Honey.

I realized after hearing the name of the University Alena attends, that a former grad student is an Assistant Professor there. I doubt seriously though they'd cross paths as he's in Neuroscience. When listening to Alena's story regarding her vocal cord surgery, I can't help but think of Julie Andrews, who's singing voice got ruined due to botched vocal cord surgery.

I managed to miss the first 15 minutes of the episode, so I guess my ears were spared from Cher and Dawn. Did she wind up having the baby on the sidewalk?

Sunhe is positively evil, staged drama or not. Very surprised at Jason's former (or current...) wife. She seems as wimpy as he is, and nothing like Angelica. However, she carried herself well during the meeting even with tears, and was cordial and like others said, didn't owe Sunhe any explanations regarding her jewelry or anything else.

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Love this shitshow.  Sunhe is hideous,  Cher and Dawn are ridiculous. Hubby needs to grow a pair, Brittany is a Corrections Guard graduate, her mom needs to lay off the surgery and look into a makeunder for she and daughter as their makeup is awful. This show creeps me out. And I'll be shocked if Cher gives birth with no pain relief. 

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I can't take any of these fools.  Cher and Dawn look and sound like muppets and I cannot watch them.  There are actual moments where I felt uncomfortable watching these people - the one where the daughter is the singer - while they were talking in bed, I felt like they might start making out at any moment. UGH!!!! 

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On 5/23/2020 at 11:40 PM, CoyoteBlue said:

WHY DID I WATCH THE MARATHON?!

Also, if I have to see the commercial for the next season where the one mom slobbers and slurps all over her daughter one more time, I might vomit. 

I turn the channel when it comes on.  It is vile.

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why do any of these men put up with these families?

The big girl with the skinny, blonde mom is strangely masculine. 

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Did that girl Brittani just say that men treat her like a sex object since she lost the weight with a straight face?  In 2020 do we even use "sex object" terminology anymore?

There is something so off about that girl, she has a weird dead pan affectation...hard to believe she passed the psych portion of the prison guard exam, she just seems so off. Can you be a prison guard at 19?

The dark haired mother who's daughter and son in law are moving in to her basement is cringe worthy, her sense of fashion is so bazaar, her sense of privacy is even more wacky, she cannot stand if her daughter has a relationship outside of theirs, not healthy at all.

Sunhe, seriously, is she for real? What type of man would stick around with her daughter if they had to deal with her? Certainly that guy can find another giant woman with purple hair to date.  What is the legal recourse when a witness refuses to sign a divorce document? I thought Sunhe wanted him to get the divorce? Stupid and confusing.

 

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57 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

There is something so off about that girl, she has a weird dead pan affectation...hard to believe she passed the psych portion of the prison guard exam, she just seems so off. Can you be a prison guard at 19?

I haven’t seen this episode yet, but I think I can answer this by paraphrasing the film noir classic Chinatown: “forget it; it’s Florida Jake”

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6 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

  In 2020 do we even use "sex object" terminology anymore?

She lives and SHOWERS with her mother!!!  She doesn't know modern words.

17 hours ago, Suzywriter said:

I must say, Croccifixio is an unusual name.

Some version of this, I assume: Crocifisso  (crucifix)

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17 hours ago, Suzywriter said:

The big girl with the skinny, blonde mom is strangely masculine. 

Brittani has Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia.  She went thru puberty very early. Here's some other info:  

  • Signs and symptoms in both males and females include:           
  • Early development of armpit and pubic hair
  • Early or severe acne
  • Infertility or decreased fertility
  • Adolescent girls and adult women also may have:
    • Masculine characteristics such as facial hair and a deep voice
    • Infrequent or absent menstrual periods
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I felt bad for Vivianna, clearly she still loves the twerp. Sunhe make me want t punch her, of course she was willing to sign, but is now holding it over their heads. If I were Frank ( Brittani's step father sorta kinda ) I would sleep with one eye opened. 

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11 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I thought Sunhe wanted him to get the divorce? Stupid and confusing.

I don't think she ever thought he would actually get divorced and that because of that Angelica would eventually break up with him and come running back to her. Not that Angelica really left (which, girl, GET OUT OF YOUR MOTHER'S HOME!), but things have been strained. I don't like or trust Jason, but Angelica doesn't seem very independent and between Sunhe and Jason, he's the much better option. I did laugh when they had a talking head with Sunhe talking so much shit about Jason and the camera pulled back and he was sitting right next to her. These producers are savage.

For fun, here's how I'd rank the mother-daughter relationships  on this show from least fucked up to most fucked up.

#6 - The diabetic mom and her pretty brunette daughter - I don't know enough about them to really judge. The mom seems pretty comfortable using her diabetes to manipulate the daughter into getting married, though. 
#5 - Dawn and Cher - annoying but innocuous
#4 - Kathy and Christina - also annoying but innocuous
#3 - Marcia and Alena - I understand how their way too close relationship happened and it can get kind of gross with the licking and the chasing, but Marcia at least seems to understand that she's not always going to be around for her daughter and Alena needs to be more independent. But she still babies her, which is sending mixed messages.
#2 - Mary and Brittani - who the fuck showers with their 19 year old daughter? And who the fuck showers with their mom? Gross, creepy lack of boundaries.
#1 with a bullet - Sunhe and Angelia - Sunhe is a selfish piece of shit and Angelica needs to read the Raised by Narcissists subreddit.

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Sunhe is seriously the worst! Why would they let her sign the damn papers! And the whole Cher and Dawn thing was ridiculous... why do I watch this show???????

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1 hour ago, DallasDiva243 said:

And the whole Cher and Dawn thing was ridiculous... why do I watch this show???????

What kind of "MEN" did these two marry?  

7 hours ago, Mahamid Frauded Me said:

I felt bad for Vivianna, clearly she still loves the twerp. Sunhe make me want t punch her, of course she was willing to sign, but is now holding it over their heads. If I were Frank ( Brittani's step father sorta kinda ) I would sleep with one eye opened. 

Just get another Witness Form and have Vivianna sign it.  She was a witness!  

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Does Sarah (with the diabetic mom) work? I didn’t hear her mention a job so I wonder if she just takes care of her mom full-time and lives off her boyfriend. Sarah needs intense therapy.

Jason is the best Angelica is ever going to do so, if Sunhe gets her way her daughter will live with her forever. I also call BS that she saw anything problematic in the divorce paperwork; I remember last season that Sunhe could not read a menu and needed reading glasses so Angelica would order for her at restaurants.

I cannot stand Cher and her mother so someday when it is revealed that Dr. Jared is having an affair with his nurse, I will laugh and laugh.

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9 hours ago, PityFree said:

I also call BS that she saw anything problematic in the divorce paperwork; I remember last season that Sunhe could not read a menu and needed reading glasses so Angelica would order for her at restaurants.

The bigger bullshit-call is that a witness’ job ISN’T to agree, understand, or even read the document. They’re just there to confirm that the people who say they signed it did sign it. 

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I so wanted to love watching this trash show to get away from all the crap going in in the world but I must say, the show is creeping me out!  And Sunhe is too disturbing to be snark worthy.  I couldn't finish the episode at attorney's office and signing divorce papers.  I really felt for Jason's ex sitting there with Sunhe's hateful stares, crying.  I pray it was scripted but it really got to me and I am pretty jaded to Snark TV.

All the relationships are too much and I don't know why these people think its normal and are on TV letting all of us watch it.  UGH... I am going back to Sister Wives.....

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2 hours ago, Alapaki said:

The bigger bullshit-call is that a witness’ job ISN’T to agree, understand, or even read the document. They’re just there to confirm that the people who say they signed it did sign it. 

Yea really.  It's not like she can prevent it from happening by not signing the papers. I hate her.

Is it just me or are there a lot of people on this season with medical problems?  I'm wondering if that's what's behind the odd behaviors and clingyness these people have.

I have a lot of crap going on much like everyone else right now and I'm finding it hard to get into this show.  I can't be bothered to learn everyone's names and a couple of the pairs are kind of boring.  I found myself skipping through the diabetic mom and daughter.

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I know it happens to varying degrees on all reality shows, but this show, more than some others, feels "enhanced" to me - in the sense that I believe these folks have strange relationships, but they are coached to amp it up for the cameras, and make it seem much more dysfunctional than it actually is.  I don't know why it stands out more for me on this show than others... maybe they're all equally manipulated.

Years ago I knew someone who got approached about being on a reality series. She told me how the producers created a story line for her and then wanted to shoot the various scenes for this story.  But their story was a massive exaggeration of her actual life/story. She ended up not doing the show because she didn't want to be portrayed the way they wanted to portray her.

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