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15 hours ago, sainte-chapelle said:

Did TLC supply the pants? What is with all the tie dye?

I was thinking the same thing.  Then I figured that some designer had donated the clothes (family or friend) to showcase their clothes. 

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16 hours ago, Arynm said:

The only ones that are on Natalie's side are Rebecca and Zied. I don't get it, Trish is awful, why should Natalie have to put up with that?

Because Natalie is just as awful in her own special way. 

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3 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Anyone who saw the entire thing would never side with Trish.

Mike, your WIFE is in the car, upset at your MOTHER'S ACTIONS and what do you do?  "Geezaloo momma, she is really a psycho bitch from hell, no?  Not sure what the bug is up her ass!"  

If Natalie would speak and tell Trish to her face that she is upset about being called a hooker but instead she prefers to stare out the car window and pout refusing to tell Trish what is really bothering her. She certainly has no problem telling the camera what the "bug up her ass" is. She would rather play games. "My mother told me not to talk to you". WTF, lady you are 35 yrs old!  Also, Nat told Mike what Trish said (if she really said it) so Mike should have approached Trish and asked her if she said that. He let it go which was a really shitty thing to do. It's like something is missing from the story. Like I have said before, all three of them suck. One no more than the other. 

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I really do not enjoy Rebecca on Pillow Talk. 

Today I canceled my Discovery+ sub,  I was only watching Pillow Talk and Single Life on it.

Molly has had so much surgery she is starting to look Asian, I have no words for Cynthia's butt lift or why these two are going the Darcey route. Maybe they want their own spinoff too.

 

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Reading over more comments, and I totally agree that Rebecca and Zied really don't add much. He seems like he is half asleep and she talks but doesn't say anything.

I was really disgusted with how psycho Natalie was, but I think Mike and Mommymike are at a whole worse level and I am not siding with Natalie.

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On 6/8/2021 at 4:28 AM, Opine said:

Yeah, the first thing Mr. Opine said was what the hell happened to her nose?  They talked about the BBL but not the face work.  And I am not sure Molly didn't have some tweaks too.  She looked like she had a little American Indian and she never looked like that before.

And they’re coming  on a little to faux and strong for me, I used to like them.

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On 6/12/2021 at 5:15 AM, Rebky said:

I will never understand this need to have a big butt (I don't like big butts and I cannot lie). I think it is truly pathetic and sad that women are willing to undergo painful surgery to acquire it. Why does your self worth center on the size of your derriere????? 

I feel the same way about breast implants!

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6 hours ago, endure said:

I feel the same way about breast implants!

Me as well. I was a 36 D in sixth grade. And I was harrassed by stupid boys relentlessly. In high school, I never dated any of the boys I went to school with. I still do not understand why women are willing to undergo such a painful surgery to appear more appealing to men. How is it worth it????

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On 6/14/2021 at 4:29 AM, Polliwollidoodle said:

I noticed Anny hugging her belly last night and figured she must be pregnant but I hadn't seen or heard anything about it. I do like her and Robert, but I noticed last night something looked off with her mouth? I never noticed it before. (and it wasn't the usual suspects such as lip filler or fancy teeth work that I could see).

Still enjoying Ukrazian!

I noticed something odd about Anny's mouth also, especially when she said "Kalani and Asuelo" (excuse spelling, probably wrong) but it was kind of endearing also. I did not like her in their original season but do like them now. 

I do not like Rebecca at all, did not like her on her season, really dislike her on PT. I know a woman who heavily filters all of her pictures. I had never met her in person. Mr. ToStandOn and I were at a function a while back, this woman came up & acted like she knew me. After she walked away, I asked hubby who she was. He said "that's Joanne, I thought you were "friends" with her." Ummmm, she looks nothing like her pictures, which she posts daily! 

When Mike & Natalie had their original season, I really liked both. I now dislike both AND Mother Mike! They do not belong together. As much as we all dislike Trish, she knew this. 

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On 6/14/2021 at 8:30 PM, LEILANI2 said:

I really do not enjoy Rebecca on Pillow Talk

She's the worst. What an attitude.  She definitely is bossy with Zied. Maybe she should boss him off the couch, get some exercise, put the video games aside and look for a job. 

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On 6/14/2021 at 10:03 AM, sainte-chapelle said:

I like Alexi a lot but Loren always got on my nerves during her season. She was also a screaming banshee mean girl on the tell all.  Also, the baby is cute but no need to trot him out every episode. 

I can't count how many times in their season that Loren kept referring to Alexi as "Sexy Lexi" and I just did not see it or agree with her.

That being said, ever since their season, anything I see him on he's become so much more attractive to me, though still not physically (though he's by no means ugly at all).  He has such a beautiful personality and a quick and clever wit.  All of these more important qualities than mere looks have boosted him to among the top of my favorites on all of these shows.  He is a good catch for Loren, and counter-balances her quite well.

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I am really shocked how blind Molly and Cynthia are to what’s happening during Mike and Natalie’s segments, especially being women. It’s very disappointing to see them normalizing obvious and blatant abuse. 

I also can’t believe that Anny and Robert were laughing at Trish saying that Mike needs to give Natalie $5K and send her back to Ukraine when Robert’s baby’s grandma offered the same thing and they all got pissed. They were super off both celebrating Mike and Trish’s treatment of Natalie and supporting Brandon’s parents.

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On 5/17/2021 at 7:21 AM, Mrs. Hanson said:

It is my understanding they are all watching the same clips from the show so that producers can put together a montage of the reactions from the couples right in a row.  Does that make sense?

And PT wasted NO TIME in obsessing over the separate sleeping arrangements.....again.  "They must not love each other!  There is NO intimacy!  OH MY GOD THE WORLD WILL STOP TURNING!!!!" 

 

No they would not.  I am sure they are all overpaid and work about 30 hours a week working for Daddy.  Go get a real job working for someone else and let reality hit ya!!!!

 

Plus she has no room to talk about K & A:  "She is treating him like a child!"  Kinda like you do with Zied??  Spoken by a woman married to a man 20 or so years younger?  

 

I still watch the Cameo he did for my hubby!!  Makes me smile!!  Next Cameo for hubby?  Dr Kirk Honda!!!  Of Psychology in Seattle fame.

Dr. Honda is awesome.  I love how he uses episodes of reality TV shows to make his points (especially when the shows are within the 90 Day universe and consist of our favorite eff-ups) and educate we lay people as to behaviors and complexes.  I could close my eyes and listen to him speak all day and night long.  And he's way too easy on the eyes.  Very handsome man.

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On 5/30/2021 at 8:30 PM, GrammyPammy said:

 

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Mom Mike is such an unfortunate looking woman.  That is all.

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56 minutes ago, Hotel Snarker said:

I am really shocked how blind Molly and Cynthia are to what’s happening during Mike and Natalie’s segments, especially being women. It’s very disappointing to see them normalizing obvious and blatant abuse. 

Possibly they remember how badly Natalie treated Mike when she first arrived. She complained about everything. His looks, his weight,  his IQ, the food he liked, his home, his drinking, his uncle, his cat, living in the country. The list goes on and on. I have no sympathy for her at all. Sometimes you get what you give and she certainly got hers. 

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LOL at the Libby family seeing the RV as a peasant RV.

Chuck should have picked an RV that had luggage space. The trip is already stressful and they have only hit the Keep off the Grass sign.

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A few weeks ago (the last time I watched this), Annie was condescending toward Natalie for confusing "horse" with "cow."  But, here she is today, being oh-so cute, mispronouncing pomegranate.  Annie, of course, could yell, "vagina," with no problem.

Veronica is totally over-emoting and posing.  I don't know what she's auditioning for - The Single Life, maybe?

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4 minutes ago, sainte-chapelle said:

Is David’s ear stained from hair dye?

He looks really feminine.

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Ronald, you don't 'allow' someone to return back home.

Kenny, you're right. It is creepy for Ronald to force Tiffany and the kids to stay - like hostages.

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Illegal is not acceptable to Angela.

Poor Claudio the tech guy will need some brain bleach.

Maybe Mykull's mama and Aunt Lydia can find some sort of witch doctor type to help all the family.

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Chuck or someone, should get in the driver seat and tell Andrei to get his butt back on the RV or get left by the side of the road.

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Sure, buy all that summer stuff from Target. Do you have a place to store it all winter?

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Lol Angela lost some weight and already thinks she can get any guy now. She don't need  Michael!

Hmmph....

 

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Andrrrei should flatly refute that he's trying to push everyone out of the business.  He should confess that he wants a $100K down payment to compete against them in his own company.  But, then, they wouldn't have a plot and all the staged fights, and they'd have no chance at a spin-off.

Loren went to a strip club for her bachelorette party.  So, for her to turn to Alexi and forbid him is just her typical hypocrisy.  

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The vast majority of posters here are celebrating that Michael may have finally gotten free from Angela, but not the Pillow Talkers! They are all pulling for the couple to “give things another chance” and urging them to stay together. 

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I just don't understand how/why the pillow talkers find Angela amusing.  And, David needs to take a break from being on the show as he was all 'Michael knows better-he knows how she'll react' which is so supporting an abuser over the victim.  Abusers tell their victims "you always set me off...you made me do this...etc" and we have heard Angela say those very exact words to Michael, so STOP blaming Michael for how upset Angela behaves.  I just can't believe the TLC willingly shows us her abuse of Michael week after week and season after season.  As always, I do not find Angela amusing/entertaining in the least.  It was very telling when Veronica and Tim talked about how Angela went after Tim one time.

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1 hour ago, seacliffsal said:

I just don't understand how/why the pillow talkers find Angela amusing.  And, David needs to take a break from being on the show as he was all 'Michael knows better-he knows how she'll react' which is so supporting an abuser over the victim.  Abusers tell their victims "you always set me off...you made me do this...etc" and we have heard Angela say those very exact words to Michael, so STOP blaming Michael for how upset Angela behaves.  I just can't believe the TLC willingly shows us her abuse of Michael week after week and season after season.  As always, I do not find Angela amusing/entertaining in the least.  It was very telling when Veronica and Tim talked about how Angela went after Tim one time.

This is one reason I cancelled Sling and only have Discovery Plus.  I was watching D plus all the time and realized the only reason I kept Sling was for Pillow Talk.  I mean, Angela's scenes need to come with a warning to domestic abuse survivors as it is VERY hard to listen to he.  Blaming Michael for a habit you started before he was born?

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1 hour ago, seacliffsal said:

I just can't believe the TLC willingly shows us her abuse of Michael week after week and season after season. 

Angela has been and always will be disgusting. For that matter, so is TLC. They go low. All for ratings. I will, however, continue to watch!

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"Stay off lawn" sign let me know what kind of neighbors they are.

My impressions (quotes paraphrased):

Kenny:  Andrei thinks he's going to be the CEO of the family business by the end of this trip.

Veronica: Just like a man, waiting until the last minute...  Tim:  We're busy.

I don't get why they find Angela amusing and not appalling.

So what is harder - Driving all day in the comfy seat or relaxing in the crowded back?

Rebecca should be glad the family is in the RV behind her.  Otherwise, they'd get to MD and, oops, where's Rebecca?

Tim about Mikul's penis size:  In his defense, over there they probably use a different metric system.

"Me and Mikul is done."  about as convincing as the hundred times "This wedding is off".

Pillow talkers had more to work with this episode.  Hope it continues.  Good group this week.

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3 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Angela has been and always will be disgusting. For that matter, so is TLC. They go low. All for ratings. I will, however, continue to watch!

I think that the TLC producers were feeding the pillow talkers the pro-Angela lines.  Their earpieces were prominent in this episode, and they said very similar things.  Moreover, Loren, Veronica and David & Anny seem very desperate to keep their gigs.

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It really bothers me how some Pillow Talkers admire Angela or laugh when she’s being heinous. She’s fucking abusive. 

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13 hours ago, Grifter Lives said:

I think that the TLC producers were feeding the pillow talkers the pro-Angela lines.  Their earpieces were prominent in this episode, and they said very similar things.  Moreover, Loren, Veronica and David & Anny seem very desperate to keep their gigs.

I've often wondered myself if P.T. couples are being told what to say or if they are saying things to keep themselves on the show.  Nobody knows better than them how this reality tv show works so I wonder if they are aware that certain scenes or conversations are being set up by producers and they are simply behaving how they think the producers want them to behave.  *shrug*  IDK it's just sometimes (especially with Annie and David) their reactions seem waaay too over the top and staged. 

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Sometimes I wonder if they are afraid to say anything negative about Angie because they are afraid of her. Or, maybe they’re afraid of TLC dropping them. 

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Veronica:  "I think she (Angela) should by Mykull a phone and load it up and it's technically her phone..."

Tim:  "I think she should NOT spy on him."

THIS is why I like Tim!  The damn voice of reason.

 

 

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8 hours ago, DanaMB said:

Sometimes I wonder if they are afraid to say anything negative about Angie because they are afraid of her. Or, maybe they’re afraid of TLC dropping them. 

It’s pretty obvious at Tim can’t stand her, they likely heavily edit or coach them on what to say. Pillow talk felt more natural last season, TLC had to ruin it by scripting the reactions.

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Hey speaking of Veronica what does she do for a living??  Her house is HUGE!  And she lives in Charlotte, NC which is not cheap.  Does she really get paid that much with her P.T. gigs to afford that?

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My guess is that the producers feel story lines to the PT crew, depending on who they're pushing as a villain, or hero. 

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Are the Pillow Talkers paid to find Angela funny? Because it was horrifying to see them, especially David and Annie, laughing at Angela’s abuse of Michael. WTF? 

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On 6/22/2021 at 4:18 PM, Dirtybubble said:

Hey speaking of Veronica what does she do for a living??  Her house is HUGE!  And she lives in Charlotte, NC which is not cheap.  Does she really get paid that much with her P.T. gigs to afford that

 

I remember Tim mentioning she has a really great job but I forget what she does. Maybe she works with pretend business woman Becky. Nahhh she has a real career and doesn’t blabber all over Pillow Talk about what a great business woman she is.

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Kenny “she (Tiff) has the cutest kids”😳He is hilarious though and I want to be his friend.

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