S09.E11: Do You Really Want To Hurt Me?

[njbchlover]

20 minutes ago, JD5166 said:

Jersey City is really nice now! Some of the best restaurants around...however, I can’t imagine a space I couldn’t sell out, she needs to get over herself. NYC is right across the river, why wasn’t she there? 

Because Luann and her "Countess and Friends" cabaret extravaganza probably has "Housewife Crap Show" exclusivity.  

[BodhiGurl]

7 minutes ago, JustDuckie said:

UNPOPULAR OPINION WARNING: I really don't like Teddie.

I think it's more unpopular to be like me and not particularly like LVP, nor care that she's not filming with the majority of the women, nor care if she goes away... 😉 

[mytmo]

No Lisa you are just an asshole

[njbchlover]

14 minutes ago, BodhiGurl said:

I know this is a well established fact, but the Kemsleys are arseholes. Especially PK. The rest of the gals might want to double think having Dorito's back... although I suppose she kind of had Kyle's back... is this the rest of the gals turning on each other? I'm no longer an LVP fan, but I'd love to see the gals now turn on Dorito... She needs to go.

The jackals jackholes are turning against each other - just as all predators do.

[njbchlover]

10 minutes ago, JustDuckie said:

UNPOPULAR OPINION WARNING: I really don't like Teddie.

Not unpopular to me - I haven't liked her since she joined the show.  But, last season, I disliked Dorit and Rinna more (still do), so Teddi moved up on my "like" scale by default.

Edited April 24, 2019 by njbchlover

[tranquilidade]

1 hour ago, Straycat80 said:

Kyle doesn’t want to wear a cap sleeve bridesmaid dress and she’s saying this in her TH where she’s wearing a dress with football player shoulder pads.

Teddi get off your phone and enjoy your little girl having fun getting her hair and makeup done. 

And Kyle claims Lisa being a virgo is all about me with a big smirk on her face.  Kyle is the egocentric one.  

[chenoa333]

6 minutes ago, JustDuckie said:

UNPOPULAR OPINION WARNING: I really don't like Teddie.

Well maybe it's not so unpopular because I cannot stand Teddi "whatever her married name is".

She started out trying to portray herself as the nice, kind, sensitive voice of reason. And now, her whole persona stinks from the smell of the desperate desire to be relevant and keep her job on RHOBH. She's boring. I want to send her an accountability bill for all of the minutes of my life I've had to view/hear this irrelevant twat.

[AnnA]

57 minutes ago, nexxie said:

These are supposed to be ensemble shows, and I like them better without the extra entitled cast members who think they’re more important than the others.

[nexxie]

It’s creepy how Dorit and Kyle worry about getting back into LVP’s good graces - apparently they still don’t get that she actually doesn’t care about other people.

[Chit Chat]

I thought that was some funny shit.  Kyle said that Camille rides the fence (or was it "rides both sides of the fence?")  That's exactly what she's been doing for years. 

Teddi tells Dorit that that's how they "percepted" things.  Bwah!   

I thought PK hit the nail on the head in regards to Kyle.  It was quite entertaining watching their heads explode over that one comment.  They're just pissed that PK spoke to Ken and now he's probably on his side.  Are we in Junior High or what?  I'm realizing with each passing episode that I simply can't watch these women if LVP doesn't come back.  I'd rather watch LVP redo her entire house than watch these bitches.  

Let me see if I understand this: Denise was married to Charlie Sheen?  And she has sex with big penis Aaron everyday? When did she say these things?   😉

[parrotlover]

Rinna saying her hair and lips are iconic. LOL. Not the adjective I was thinking of.

[chewycandy]

I would rather whisper sweet nothings to my dog while lovingly brushing him/her than hang out with this pack of hyenas, too. In fact, I’d watch a whole show of just that 

[Chit Chat]

4 minutes ago, tranquilidade said:

And Kyle claims Lisa being a virgo is all about me with a big smirk on her face.  Kyle is the egocentric one.  

It is said that we tend to accuse others what we, ourselves, are guilty of.  "All about me."  Kyle: Yep.  LVP rides the fence with people.  Kyle: Yep. 

[goofygirl]

Seems Dorito thinks Kyle did all that to LVP for things she had a problem with. It just slays me that the Dorito idiota STILL doesn't get the whole "dog dumping".  WHAT A DOOFUS!!

[parrotlover]

If there was a drinking game for taking a drink every time Denise brings up her ex, you’d die from alcohol poisoning.

[njbchlover]

2 minutes ago, nexxie said:

It’s creepy how Dorit and Kyle worry about getting back into LVP’s good graces - apparently they still don’t get that she actually doesn’t care about other people.

I didn't think it was creepy, but I thought that Kyle basically shat her pants while sitting on that bus stair because she realized she backed the wrong horse in this race.

Kyle has realized that she destroyed her friendship with LVP (as crazy as it was) to defend two con artists/scammers/bold faced liars (Kemsleys) - all for them to turn on her.  

I wonder if we will see more back-pedaling from Kyle in the coming weeks.

[Chit Chat]

Just now, goofygirl said:

Seems Dorito thinks Kyle did all that to LVP for things she had a problem with. It just slays me that the Dorito idiota STILL doesn't get the whole "dog dumping".  WHAT A DOOFUS!!

The lesson for Kyle should be to quit trying to stick up for other people and mind your own damn business.  Kyle sure is busy trashing LVP to the other ladies.  LVP will probably never speak to her again, and I don't blame her. 

[charming]

Kyle wasn't offended by PK's joke. She was pissed that PK and Ken Todd spoke on the phone and that PK was trying to salvage their friendship. Dorit must not have given PK the memo that there is an all out war against LVP this season. 

Let's see, good friend Kyle who just loooooves LVP so much compares her to Charlie Sheen and says because she's a Virgo everything is "all about her" then collapses in laughter. No fake bitch, this is why she doesn't want to be around you.

None of these women, Rinna, Teddi, Kyle, want LVP at their events because they like her. They just want to continue to bash and call her a liar. Then act incredulous that she doesn't want to be part of the group anymore? 

Teddi is a sanctimonious know it all and doesn't give a damn about Dorit's feelings or character. Neither does Kye, Dorit is just a means to an end to stick it to LVP.

I truly love that this is blowing up in their faces. They were soooo sure that the viewing audience would be on their side and the overwhelming majority are pro LVP. I love it.

Edited April 24, 2019 by charming

[tvfanatic13]

“Percepted”?? Really Teddy?? 🤦‍♀️

[enchantingmonkey]

4 minutes ago, parrotlover said:

If there was a drinking game for taking a drink every time Denise brings up her ex, you’d die from alcohol poisoning.

I suspect the editing monkeys don't want us to forget that she was once married to a BIG STAR.  We still get flashbacks to those Camille/Kelsey scenes from Season 1, and how many years ago was that?  

[renatae]

3-2-1 And as predicted, the swarm starts to feed on each other.

Kyle seems much more upset by PK's comments than about the actual loss of her friendship. She is so smug in her "honesty." Her comment that Lisa has never had to deal with confrontation belies all the times she and her cohorts went for Lisa, including, but not limited to, what was shown on the air. Yes, "friend," I would have split, too.

Dorit's constant insistence that she did nothing wrong is really getting the better of me.

It was nice seeing even smugger Teddi taking some heat.

[njbchlover]

4 minutes ago, goofygirl said:

Seems Dorito thinks Kyle did all that to LVP for things she had a problem with. It just slays me that the Dorito idiota STILL doesn't get the whole "dog dumping".  WHAT A DOOFUS!!

And, Dorit tried to tell Kyle what Kyle's reason was for having a falling out with LVP - again, as I've said before - Dorit, Duchess of Deflection - she is really a master at the fine art of deflection!!  

At least we finally heard one of these women (Kyle) say to Dorit that the reason for all of this was because the Kemsleys "dumped their dog".  

[whydoievencare]

That classic scene from a past season when Lisa V leaves while having a "conversation" with Kyle and Yolanda - "conversation" means that you listen while we accuse you of shit.  Isn't that what "conversation" means nowadays?

Edited April 24, 2019 by whydoievencare

[tranquilidade]

10 minutes ago, parrotlover said:

Rinna saying her hair and lips are iconic. LOL. Not the adjective I was thinking of.

Don't forget she called herself a shit stirrer and an asshole.   What an honest moment for her.

[snarts]

Did Teddi really try to blame PK's kyle jab on the fact he'd chatted with Ken?? Another instance of LVP's jedi mind games? That chick is ridiculous. 

I suffer from acute secondary embarrassment watching them dance, especially Vyle & Rinna. They just try way too hard. 

[Chit Chat]

3 minutes ago, enchantingmonkey said:

I suspect the editing monkeys don't want us to forget that she was once married to a BIG STAR.  

I wonder if he gets a check every time they mention his name.  

[parrotlover]

1 minute ago, tranquilidade said:

Don't forget she called herself a shit stirrer and an asshole.   What an honest moment for her.

Yes I need to rewatch that moment. 

[nexxie]

4 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I didn't think it was creepy, but I thought that Kyle basically shat her pants while sitting on that bus stair because she realized she backed the wrong horse in this race.

Kyle has realized that she destroyed her friendship with LVP (as crazy as it was) to defend two con artists/scammers/bold faced liars (Kemsleys) - all for them to turn on her.  

I wonder if we will see more back-pedaling from Kyle in the coming weeks.

I don’t think Kyle actually meant to stick up for Dorit as much as she meant to call LVP on years of bad behavior - she saw an opportunity and took it. Now she’s having second thoughts because LVP has played Dorit and Kyle against each other in the past and it makes Kyle feel bad to think Dorit might be back in LVP’s good graces. For me, the creepy part is their need to be accepted by someone who treats others the way Lisa does.

[bravofan27]

The most real thing that happened this whole episode is Denise crying about her children, for extremely legit reasons. She seemed really scared for how they will turn out, especially when they are older and she can't watch over them. Plus, he ended up a bit of deadbeat. He's broke and Denise now needs to provide for them. I say this because I thought she very sincerely commented that she she should have taken 1/2 when she had the chance. 

Teddi is up Kyle's ass. There is nothing can she say that won't cause Teddi to erupt into gleeful laughter. Or protective defense.

I actually admire Lisa V for staying away from the ladies. She doesn't like them, they don't like her, why get involved? She doesn't need them and dissing them is sort of, IMO, her way of saying, "Look bitches, I don't need the camera time. I have better stuff happening." Because all those ladies, IMO, don't really give a shit about whatever they are talking/arguing about. They are doing what they can to be on TV.

I think PK and Lisa V are still friends. His vitriol toward Kyle was, IMO, a sign of allegiance to Lisa V. 

[whydoievencare]

In Erika's Talking Heads, her voice is just so affected. As is her whole persona.

[Chit Chat]

1 minute ago, snarts said:

I suffer from acute secondary embarrassment watching them dance, especially Vyle & Rinna. They just try way too hard. 

I agree.  And please, Rinna, for the love of all that's holy, quit telling everybody that they're "gorrrr-jusssss.  That is so grating.  

[tranquilidade]

Yes and Rinna needs to remove that sea slug from her face.

[whydoievencare]

2 minutes ago, bravofan27 said:

I think PK and Lisa V are still friends. His vitriol toward Kyle was, IMO, a sign of allegiance to Lisa V. 

You may be correct, but we just saw PK say to Ken on the phone  that Dorit did nothing wrong - how could Lisa V ignore everything that Dorit has done (and PK right along with her).  Typical Kemsley - deny, deny, deny. 

[Chit Chat]

1 minute ago, nexxie said:

I don’t think Kyle actually meant to stick up for Dorit as much as she meant to call LVP on years of bad behavior - she saw an opportunity and took it.

Kyle doesn't seem to understand though that she went to LVP's home to tell her that she's a liar.  As a supposed best friend, you just don't do that.  She went in like a wrecking ball rather than being tactful and kind about it.  Instead of telling LVP what the other ladies were thinking, she added her 2 cents in and basically said she was on their side!  Who does that?  It was a dumb way to handle it and Kyle can't understand that. 

Tact:  A keen discernment of what to do or say when dealing with others without giving offense. (My teacher back in about 1975 made us write that very definition on every single test. It's one of the most important things I ever learned in school.)

[Duke2801]

32 minutes ago, JustDuckie said:

UNPOPULAR OPINION WARNING: I really don't like Teddie.

Unpopular? Maybe at a Mellencamp family reunion. But I think the majority of Bravo watchers are over her. She and her man hands (ala Seinfeld) can go anytime,  as far as I’m concerned. 

14 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I didn't think it was creepy, but I thought that Kyle basically shat her pants while sitting on that bus stair because she realized she backed the wrong horse in this race.

Kyle has realized that she destroyed her friendship with LVP (as crazy as it was) to defend two con artists/scammers/bold faced liars (Kemsleys) - all for them to turn on her.  

I wonder if we will see more back-pedaling from Kyle in the coming weeks.

I think you nailed it.  Kyle screwed up—big time. 

On another note—who the eff has the energy to have sex every morning at 5 a.m.??!

[RealHousewife]

1 minute ago, Duke2801 said:

On another note—who the eff has the energy to have sex every morning at 5 a.m.??!

😂

I do like Denise, but she sure talks about her sex life a lot. Call me a prude, but I don't care for it. 

[chenoa333]

22 minutes ago, parrotlover said:

Rinna saying her hair and lips are iconic. LOL. Not the adjective I was thinking of.

So far I haven't seen any Lisa Rinna memorablia in the background on Watch What Happens Live.

I'm sure her lips are very memorable to many men but the hair? It's just a short haircut on Lisa that she has had for years.  I haven't changed my eye color since I was born....does that make me an icon? 

[charming]

Kyle did not have a conversation with Lisa. She accused Lisa of planting stories. Lisa denies it multiple times on her children's lives. Kyle says you did it! You're not admitting it because you care more about your image than friendship.

All of the women want Lisa to admit "it" and there's no room for any doubt that they might have it wrong.  That they might have jumped to conclusions.

Lisa Rinna gave interviews talking about how she's going to sue LVP and Bravo because they "used" them to set a spin off show for Vanderpump Dogs. As far as I know thet are not filming a spin off show and none is on the schedule. So one of LVP's alleged motives is not based in fact.

The editor of Radar Online said she wasn't the source for the story.

Whichever John said LVP didn't tell him to text Teddi he did it on his own.

How else can LVP "prove" her innocence to them? What more do they want her to do? Take a lie detector test? It's completely ridiculous that they think they can put her on trial and declare her guilty and she's got to take her punishment from them. 

I'd stay home and brush my dog too.

[tranquilidade]

7 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

Kyle doesn't seem to understand though that she went to LVP's home to tell her that she's a liar.  As a supposed best friend, you just don't do that.  She went in like a wrecking ball rather than being tactful and kind about it.  Instead of telling LVP what the other ladies were thinking, she added her 2 cents in and basically said she was on their side!  Who does that?  It was a dumb way to handle it and Kyle can't understand that. 

Tact:  A keen discernment of what to do or say when dealing with others without giving offense. (My teacher back in about 1975 made us write that very definition on every single test. It's one of the most important things I ever learned in school.)

But Kyle is never wrong....in Kyle's world.

[nexxie]

4 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

Kyle doesn't seem to understand though that she went to LVP's home to tell her that she's a liar.  As a supposed best friend, you just don't do that.  She went in like a wrecking ball rather than being tactful and kind about it.  Instead of telling LVP what the other ladies were thinking, she added her 2 cents in and basically said she was on their side!  Who does that?  It was a dumb way to handle it and Kyle can't understand that. 

Tact:  A keen discernment of what to do or say when dealing with others without giving offense. (My teacher back in about 1975 made us write that very definition on every single test. It's one of the most important things I ever learned in school.)

I agree that tact is important when dealing with most people, but it doesn’t work with those who can’t own things they’ve done because they’ll just take it as a way out. Kyle probably really believes Lisa was behind the press stories and needed her to take responsibility. That won’t happen.

(Looks like some of the cast is confronting LVP about her behavior next week on VPR too.)

[njbchlover]

18 minutes ago, snarts said:

Did Teddi really try to blame PK's kyle jab on the fact he'd chatted with Ken?? Another instance of LVP's jedi mind games? That chick is ridiculous. 

I suffer from acute secondary embarrassment watching them dance, especially Vyle & Rinna. They just try way too hard. 

I had second hand embarrassment for Rinna, especially, but all of them, fan-girling over Billy Idol and Boy George like they are both the second coming of Christ.

Sorry, Rinna - Billy Idol is not that hot!  And, Boy George is a creep!  

[parrotlover]

7 minutes ago, chenoa333 said:

So far I haven't seen any Lisa Rinna memorablia in the background on Watch What Happens Live.

I'm sure her lips are very memorable to many men but the hair? It's just a short haircut on Lisa that she has had for years.  I haven't changed my eye color since I was born....does that make me an icon? 

Does the infamous striped bunny count? It’s still there and actually Easter night, it was the bartender. Andy played the clip from that reunion when Kim gave it back to her and the one phony tear was rolling down her cheek. Ugh.

Edited April 24, 2019 by parrotlover

[charming]

It's great to see Jagger growing up and being able to communicate. He was cute playing the guitar.

I see Dorit wised up and keeps her 4 nannies off camera. I remember when she couldn't be bothered to take Jagger to his therapy appointments her first season. She must have hired the same PR firm as Camille.

[njbchlover]

20 minutes ago, bravofan27 said:

The most real thing that happened this whole episode is Denise crying about her children, for extremely legit reasons. She seemed really scared for how they will turn out, especially when they are older and she can't watch over them. Plus, he ended up a bit of deadbeat. He's broke and Denise now needs to provide for them. I say this because I thought she very sincerely commented that she she should have taken 1/2 when she had the chance. 

Teddi is up Kyle's ass. There is nothing can she say that won't cause Teddi to erupt into gleeful laughter. Or protective defense.

I actually admire Lisa V for staying away from the ladies. She doesn't like them, they don't like her, why get involved? She doesn't need them and dissing them is sort of, IMO, her way of saying, "Look bitches, I don't need the camera time. I have better stuff happening." Because all those ladies, IMO, don't really give a shit about whatever they are talking/arguing about. They are doing what they can to be on TV.

I think PK and Lisa V are still friends. His vitriol toward Kyle was, IMO, a sign of allegiance to Lisa V. 

I think that at the time of the taping of the show, PK thought he was still friends with LVP and Ken.

I don't know if they are still friends, but when Lisa was on WWHL and Andy asked if she or Ken had spoken to/seen PK, she said just once, when PK walked by them at an event, and PK said something snarky to Ken (I can't remember what it was, but it was more of PK's "joke" type jabs).

[tranquilidade]

1 minute ago, njbchlover said:

I think that at the time of the taping of the show, PK thought he was still friends with LVP and Ken.

I don't know if they are still friends, but when Lisa was on WWHL and Andy asked if she or Ken had spoken to/seen PK, she said just once, when PK walked by them at an event, and PK said something snarky to Ken (I can't remember what it was, but it was more of PK's "joke" type jabs).

On WWHL I think she said that Ken and PK did not speak even though PK approached Ken and said, oh yes we are not speaking to one another.... it was something like that.

[DivaLasVegas82]

2 hours ago, langford peel said:

That's great. 

I hope they enjoy the pink slips they will be getting when the ratings come in for the reunion if Lisa does not attend.

Good luck with that girls.

If RHOA of Atlanta could survive without Nene and RHONY could survive without Bethany, I think RHOBH would be just fine without LVP. I think her hardcore fans give her way too much credit for the success of the show. Sure, she is a fan favorite, but the "Housewives" franchise is predicated on an ensemble cast. I don't believe one woman can make or break ANY show in the franchise. And frankly, I don't see how LVP thinks she is going to survive on RHOBH if she refuses to film with anyone except Denise.

3 minutes ago, charming said:

It's great to see Jagger growing up and being able to communicate. He was cute playing the guitar.

I see Dorit wised up and keeps her 4 nannies off camera. I remember when she couldn't be bothered to take Jagger to his therapy appointments her first season. She must have hired the same PR firm as Camille.

I don't remember Dorit ever having four nannies. Maybe one. Camille is the one who had four nannies for her two kids in Season 1.

But I agree little Jagger is a cutie. I love all the kids on this show.

[chenoa333]

3 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

think that at the time of the taping of the show, PK thought he was still friends with LVP and Ken.

I don't know if they are still friends,

I want to believe that these people don't let the petty b s. seen on RHOBH affect their real friendships. But I guess we'll never know for certain.

[breezy424]

Bambi sighting!!!  I'll throw the ball.

I enjoyed the concert scenes until PK put his foot in it with his 'British' humor.  I couldn't imagine LVP at a concert like that.  I just can't picture her dancing with the music...especially with those heels she totters on.

I don't mind Denise talking about CS. She put up with him for years.  She even took care of his children from another mother.

LVP - another scene on her kitchen makeover and a dig to Kyle.  Her 'hurt' when talking to Denise.  Two pink vases?  If people are tired about the other women discussing puppygate, then LVP falls into that category as well.

Hm Camille.  Is this now Camille 3.0?  Or Camille 1.01?

[njbchlover]

3 minutes ago, charming said:

It's great to see Jagger growing up and being able to communicate. He was cute playing the guitar.

I see Dorit wised up and keeps her 4 nannies off camera. I remember when she couldn't be bothered to take Jagger to his therapy appointments her first season. She must have hired the same PR firm as Camille.

Something tells me that they don't have 4 nannies anymore.  Maybe one nanny/housekeeper (that doesn't know how to work a Bullet Blender), but I think their financial problems have caused the Kemsleys to seriously downgrade their home "staff".  It's hard to keep employees if you can't pay them!  

[tranquilidade]

1 minute ago, DivaLasVegas82 said:

If RHOA of Atlanta could survive without Nene and RHONY could survive without Bethany, I think RHOBH would be just fine without LVP. I think her hardcore fans give her way too much credit for the success of the show. Sure, she is a fan favorite, but the "Housewives" franchise is predicated on an ensemble cast. I don't believe one woman can make or break ANY show in the franchise. And frankly, I don't see how LVP thinks she is going to survive on RHOBH if she refuses to film with anyone except Denise.

I think there is one difference.  These women are not interesting enough IMO, to sustain the show.  There was an interesting dynamic that they destroyed.  I think LVP and Kyle need to make amends and the rest can be replaced to start over.