S11.E07: It's Kind of a Phone-y Story

[applecrisp]

13 minutes ago, Chickabiddy said:

After the behavior in the Berkshires, particularly with  Ramona’s hideous ribbed knit cold shoulder top and her bare ass and nightie at dinner, capped off by Bethenney telling Ramona to stick a metal straw up her vagina, and then bullying and hectoring Tinsley about her rocky relationship, I really have a hard time understanding why Barbara is so awful.

She may not deserve an apple, but as stated previously, half these bitches don’t deserve an apple. It was rich for Ramona to tell Barbara to  shut up and listen when you consider that Ramona never does. And frankly, Ramona's accent makes her sound rougher and less educated than Barbara’s Why is it ok for all of them to behave like screaming banshee trolops, but Barbara is somehow offensive? She was no more evil about the shark room than the other fishwives, but Dorinda felt free to go after her. Is it because Barbara's packaging isn’t as stylish and swank? Does that make it ok fir them to gang up up on her?

It was kind of gross to see Dorinda start winding up her drunken tirade to shame Barbara  for the work she does. Firstly, it’s honest work that makes Barbara independent and not reliant on a man, his money or his alimony. Secondly, how is Ramona’s tacky knock off jewelry business any less tacky? 

Frankly, most of these bitches just got lucky spreading their legs for the right man and striking it rich at the alter. And notice how none of them can seem to find a man or hold on to a man now in spite of all their best efforts. I am just really mystified as to why they feel so superior to Barbara. The mystery continues when they all feel like they are in a place to give Tins relationship advice, of all the crazy things.

And in an unrelated matter, I thought Beth’s dinner party outfit made her look like a cross between Morticia Addams and Cher..and not in a good way. 🙄

I totally agree with you about Barbara. She is not that bad and certainly her behavior is not as bad as some of these women.

[breezy424]

Beth is Jesus?

Someone who declares she was/is engaged to a dead man who was married until the day he died is in no position to give anyone relationship advice.  I felt so bad for Tins.  Back off Beth.

[Baltimore Betty]

58 minutes ago, Steph J said:

Why does Bethenny keep saying she just kissed a woman for the first time?  Just last week they showed clips of her letting Sonja drunkenly lay one on her.

Man, Tinsley, if you describe your relationship as "like torture"... just end it. It can't be worth this.

I thought of that the second Bethenny said she had never kissed a girl.  

Tinsley may have hoped Scott was her Prince Charming and the realization that it is not working out must be crushing and she knows it is not a healthy relationship that will not be a happy one.  I've been there, it's not fun.

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, bosawks said:

Is the puffy, embroidered, bedazzled vest this season’s clunky statement necklace? 

I actually really like that vest Luann was wearing (I also liked it the first time she wore it - was it in the Hamptons?)!  I like a little bling every once in a while, and it has just the right amount.

[bichonblitz]

1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

You dated serious last summer? You mean when Denise was alive? The man you are fake mourning to have a storyline this season? Where you wearing that fake ass engagement ring when you were serious with this other guy Bethany? You are a disgusting human being  using Denise in one breath for sympathy and in the next showing you didn’t care for the man at all. 

Right, then she said she was hot and heavy (with that gorgeous guy) and Dennis was insanely jealous and had to have her to himself so she dumped this other guy for Dennis. Then they broke up. Again. Then they got back together. Then broke up again. Then he died. Because of her. She shows a picture of the night they got engaged. And cries. She never wears the ring or tells anyone she is engaged until after Dennis is dead. I'm not undertanding anything she is saying about her time with Dennis. Nothing. Bethenny is crazy. 

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, tribeca said:

Tinsley made me cry.  I relate to her dad story. It is very upsetting when you feel your daddy loved the bottle more then you.  

Lu was actually kind and gave decent advice to her.  

Beth has wonderful makeup people.  Why was she breaking out like that?  Was it some sort of allergic reaction?  

I think Bethenny said she just had a facial, so the redness was probably because of that.

1 hour ago, Straycat80 said:

Sonja is disgusted by Bethenny kissing Babs? This was the women who kissed a complete stranger in a bar a couple episodes ago. 

Maybe it was because Bethenny was kissing Barbara?  It wasn't the kiss - it was the "kissee"!  

I get the feeling that Barbara isn't very well liked by any of the other women (including Luann).  

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, Steph J said:

Why does Bethenny keep saying she just kissed a woman for the first time?  Just last week they showed clips of her letting Sonja drunkenly lay one on her.

Man, Tinsley, if you describe your relationship as "like torture"... just end it. It can't be worth this.

But, maybe Bethenny didn't kiss Sonja back, or no tongue, or she didn't initiate the kiss.  

[bichonblitz]

2 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I think Bethenny said she just had a facial, so the redness was probably because of that.

Hahaha, B. So she wasn't looking her best when she see's the handsome guy she totally ghosted to go back to Dennis. I loved it because that guy was ignoring her. I am fascinated how she finds all these men. Dating in NYC is a bitch, just ask the other ladies. Yet, here's B with men falling for her left and right. 

[njbchlover]

58 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

That's the nicest I've seen Lu Fish (tm SuprSuprElevated) be in a long time.  It was refreshing in that moment.  She actually cared about someone other than herself. 

I have no doubt that she pulled those old cards out from Dennis so that she could once again cry on camera.  

I was thinking that she bought them herself to further her storyline.

[HunterHunted]

29 minutes ago, Chickabiddy said:

But they are ALL instigators. It’s what they do if they want to stay relevant.

Wasn’t Sonja tattling to Luann about someone telling Beth about Lu’s bitch out about the room and how hurt B was? 

Frankly, they would be more remarkable if we had an episode where someone wasn’t actually tattling on someone else or stirring the shit to stay relevant. It’s not like these howives havev any other real skills to fall back on if they lose their apples. Prostitution is still illegal. 😉

You're right that they're all instigators, but new women usually ease into it. Barbara has spent so little time around Tinsley that to snidely ask if Tinsley wants to be friends with them, it's clear that Barbara was being a messy shit-stirring beast. She's a nasty piece of work. It's especially egregious because Tinsley has only been nice to Barbara. Tinsley was at the clam bake for an hour and was very polite. They saw each other at the Sonja's party for Paper Magazine and then the Berkshires. If you have to start shit with the person least likely to come for you, you're done in my book. I'm glad Dorinda said something  because that Beast knew what she was doing and it was uncalled for.

[bichonblitz]

I hate that Truth or Dare game. 

[rhys]

When Beth said she dated Russ last summer, I figured she meant 2017. Is this another new apartment for her? I can't keep up.

TIns, Scott is just not into you, sweetie. Maybe you'll meet a lion tamer next week who will be right for you.

ETA: these women need to play "Cards Against Humanity" instead of truth or dare.

Edited April 18, 2019 by rhys

[Dance4Life]

Am I the only one getting Fatal Attraction vibes from Tinsley?

I don’t think Scott wants to marry her and it is Tinsley stalking him.

Like she seems like the type to fantasize a more serious relationship than what it is.

She won’t accept a guy breaking up with her.

Yall remember last season when Scott showed up to her hotel room......and, she literally acted like a 12 year old.

Did she throw herself on the ground?  It was all very strange and dramatic.

Personally, I think they are on ‘break.’  Broken up, whatever.

Like, if Tinsley were to meet a legacy wealthy guy in NYC during filming......then there would be no more Scott worshipping.

[Steph J]

19 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

You're right that they're all instigators, but new women usually ease into it. Barbara has spent so little time around Tinsley that to snidely ask if Tinsley wants to be friends with them, it's clear that Barbara was being a messy shit-stirring beast. She's a nasty piece of work. It's especially egregious because Tinsley has only been nice to Barbara. Tinsley was at the clam bake for an hour and was very polite. They saw each other at the Sonja's party for Paper Magazine and then the Berkshires. If you have to start shit with the person least likely to come for you, you're done in my book. I'm glad Dorinda said something  because that Beast knew what she was doing and it was uncalled for.

Yeah, you're not going to impress anyone by going after the broken bird of the group. Slay one of the krakens if you want respect.

[LilaFowler]

Ramona's 16-year-old dog seemed more spry than my 4-year-old basset.

Tinsley is a basket case. Maybe this show isn't the best idea for her.

[hoodooznoodooz]

Poor Frankel. All these men she has to beat off with a stick. 

[Almost 3000]

2 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

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Me too! But I paid the $9.99. Have them on right now...

[UsernameFatigue]

2 hours ago, JD5166 said:

Last summer, B? Seriously dating??? Weren’t you ENG-HA-GED?! 😒

This episode was filmed in the fall of 2018. Dennis died in August 2018, and he and Beth got engaged a few months before that. When Beth said she dated Russ (I think his name was) last year, I assumed that would have been 2017. She and Dennis dated for a few years, on and off. 

Regarding signs from a deceased loved one, I got several from my mom after she passed as did other family members. No, I can't prove that they were from her, but no one else can prove they weren't. So I choose to believe. I have several friends who have had similar experiences with loved ones who have passed. 

I don't blame Tinsley for not phoning Scott. I actually felt sorry for John, and wonder how he felt if he watched this epi, knowing he was the butt of a joke by the howives. That said, it is obvious that Scott and Tins are not a good match. No relationship should be that hard. If if is, you are with the wrong person. 

It was so jarring seeing Carole in a clip from a past season. It seems like ages ago that she was on the show. I don't miss her a bit, and it doesn't look like any of the howives do either. This franchise is such a breath of fresh air, after the staleness that has permeated BH. 

[Bronzedog]

I believe in signs from the deceased too, so, I don’t have a problem with that but I do have a problem with Ramona and the dog only has another year left statement.  That was horrible.  But then, Carole only had a few good summers left and she’s gone, so there’s that.

Edited April 18, 2019 by Bronzedog

[biakbiak]

7 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

2018. Dennis died in August 2018, and he and Beth got engaged a few months before that.

But in Bethenny’s own words they didn’t get engaged he may have given her a ring even though he couldn’t legally marry it she didn’t say yes.

[hoodooznoodooz]

“Dare. Do you think you’ll fall in love again?”

[langford peel]

Even though Tinsley has broken up with Scott she still loved him a whole lot more than Dorinda cares about John. That sloppy slattern had no trouble making John a fool and the butt of the joke to these drunken cackling whores who don’t have a boyfriend amongst them.

John this is a wake up call for you.  Find someone who cares about you buddy.

[UsernameFatigue]

19 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

But in Bethenny’s own words they didn’t get engaged he may have given her a ring even though he couldn’t legally marry it she didn’t say yes.

Not sure what your point is - I was replying to a poster who asked why Beth was dating someone else if she was engaged. I was pointing out that she was dating the guy that was at her place, the year before. 

Whether Beth said yes, no, maybe, is really none of my concern or interest. I know many people who are in complicated relationships, and very few are in ones that are strictly black and white. Add in that I do believe Beth and Dennis were very close friends even when they were not together, and it adds another level of complication. 

Edited April 18, 2019 by UsernameFatigue

[biakbiak]

Just now, UsernameFatigue said:

was replying to a poster who asked why Beth was dating someone else if she was engaged. I was pointing out that she was dating the guy that was at her place, the year before. 

Whether Beth said yes, no, maybe, is really none of my concern or interest. I know many people who are in complicated relationships, and very few are in ones that are strictly black and white. 

My point is Bethenny contradicts herself and tells a gazillion different version of her story with Dennis depending on what she wants to present at the moment. 

[langford peel]

Bethenny couldn’t leave poor Tinsley alone. She is fall of advice from her vast experience as a good partner and wife.

I think Bethenny can really help Tinsley. She should ask Bethenny what she would do... and then do the exact opposite.

[Quita]

1 hour ago, njbchlover said:

And, she was also dating "pretty seriously" that guy that runs the bartending service.  (BTW - he was HOT!!) 

I'm still trying to figure out if she dated him before or after Dennis passed away - Bethenny said she dated him "last summer", and I couldn't understand her speed-babble about him and whether she ghosted him because Dennis was pissed or because Dennis had died, or whatever she was going on about.

According to an article I read, Bethenny and Dennis broke up in May 2017 and she started dating Russ the caterer in August of 2017, then I guess eventually getting back with Dennis on and off.

I really felt for the woman in the flower shop having to deal with Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber. Her face said it all!

So, Luanne claims she's "super sensitive" and "in touch with her emotions" these days and that's why she made a fuss about the fish room. Well, that's the most creative description for ungrateful, entitled bitch if I've ever heard one.

[UsernameFatigue]

I have posted previously about a relationship that I had that was in some ways similar to the one Beth had with Dennis. My boyfriend also died. So I actually understand the feelings that Beth has had, and how they sometimes change from day to day. 

Edited April 18, 2019 by UsernameFatigue

[biakbiak]

4 minutes ago, Quita said:

Bethenny and Dennis broke up in May 2017 and she started dating Russ the caterer in August of 2017, then I guess eventually getting back with Dennis on and off.

She started seeing Russ in at least early early June of 2017 and had been spotted with him several times by the time he was “identified”.

[lgprimes]

Can’t believe that we are three pages in and nobody else has commented on how WEAK Dorinda’s phone sex game is! I don’t even think that phone call qualified...

And Tinsley, if your millionaire boyfriend lives several states away and you aren’t even having phone sex? He’s getting the real thing from somebody closer at hand.

[biakbiak]

Bethenny your dare wasn’t just for Tinsley to call Scott it was to call him and give him an ultimatum about needing to get engaged by the end of the year and that is what Tinsley was reacting to the rest of these harpies acting like that was not the dare was ridiculous. 

[swankie]

This episode contained the most crying I have seen all season on any of the other Real Housewives shows.  First Sonja, then Bethenny, then Tinsley, then Tinsley again.  Good grief.  All of these women need intense therapy. 

And Tinsley, if your guy is so strict that you can't kid around with him every once in a while without feeling like he'll kill you, sorry but...he's just not that into you.  I swear, she was acting like an abuse victim the way she carried on.  I hope that's not the case.   

Luann, you are an ungrateful slob!  The next time you hit rock bottom I hope you have to drag yourself back up all by yourself you entitled ingrate.  People like her really piss me off.

Is Sonja constantly in heat?  The way she was acting during Dorinda's phone-y sex call to John was crazy.  That woman is certifiable.   🤣

[walnutqueen]

Luann really is insufferable.

[JakeyJokes]

I am fascinated that Ramona is so messy yet in her TH's she can be the most astute, especially when describing others. She understood what Sonja's breakdown was perfectly. I also think Bethenny handled it very well, and you can tell she was raised by alcoholics =(

I liked the Tinsley/LuAnn scene, too. Addiction is a beast. I like that the show presented two different views of it, LuAnn with the belief that alcoholism is a disease (Substance Abuse Disorder is what is used in the DSM-V) and Tinsley admitting she can't see it that way. I don't remember the five stages of grief in order, but I think LuAnn was right that Tinsley hasn't got out of anger yet.

This makes it sounds like the whole episode was depressing, and it wasn't! Truth or Dare was hilarious, as was Sonja calling out LuAnn's lame traffic excuse. I struggle with lateness, too (ADHD), but LuAnn! 75 minutes late when everyone else got there on time from the same location? Leave the house earlier!

Edited April 18, 2019 by JakeyJokes

[swankie]

2 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Dating in NYC is a bitch, just ask the other ladies. Yet, here's B with men falling for her left and right. 

I think the fact that she's a millionaire gives her a distinct advantage.  

[film noire]

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@njbchlover

And, she was also dating "pretty seriously" that guy that runs the bartending service.  (BTW - he was HOT!!) 

I'm still trying to figure out if she dated him before or after Dennis passed away - Bethenny said she dated him "last summer", and I couldn't understand her speed-babble about him and whether she ghosted him because Dennis was pissed or because Dennis had died, or whatever she was going on about.

Lean in, sister, cuz here's what I heard!

So's Frankel and Shields started seeing each other before 2016 (Frankel testified during the custody trial last month that her "sexual and romantic relationship" with Dennis began "three to four years ago") and they dated off and on, but in the summer of 2017, this hottie Russ crosses her path,  and Russ and Bethy fall madly in love (Summer loving, had me a blast!) but Denny is all "Hunh? Bethy, I LOVE YOU!" and she's all "Tell me about it, stud" and Denny's got chills multiplying so she dumps Russ and runs back to Denny and everybody thinks Bethy and Denny are together 4-ever!  But then Bethy meets this super cute guy named Paul?  - he's like, big man on campus? - and she's all "Denny, WEVS!" and she and Paul date but then she dumps Paul end of 2017 and runs back to Denny and this time, he asks her to wear his pin  - during Spring Fling! - even though he's still pinned to Jill? - so it's a secret pinning between Denny and Bethy and they don't tell ANYBODY but then Bethy says they can never be together - she has to get off the ride! -- and Denny can't live without her, so he dies and Bethy puts on the pin Denny secretly gave her and runs back to Paul - three weeks after Denny's funeral - and climbs on top of Paul and makes sweet sweet love to him - holding the pin Denny gave her in her hand - and outside the hotel room, spectral Denny writes her a note: Dear Bethy, you look spectacular (said in Billy Crystal's old SNL Fernando Lamas voice) and then he walks away, into the mist, hopelessly devoted to her....

(That, or Bethenny sport-fucked three guys and then retroactively decided the married one proposed to her, the unmarried one was madly in love with her, and the third one was fallback guy -- twice, in December of 2017 and Sepember of 2018 -  and now he's ended up the keeper. Until further notice.)

Edited April 18, 2019 by film noire

[HunterHunted]

3 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

Am I the only one getting Fatal Attraction vibes from Tinsley?

I don’t think Scott wants to marry her and it is Tinsley stalking him.

Like she seems like the type to fantasize a more serious relationship than what it is.

She won’t accept a guy breaking up with her.

Yall remember last season when Scott showed up to her hotel room......and, she literally acted like a 12 year old.

Did she throw herself on the ground?  It was all very strange and dramatic.

Personally, I think they are on ‘break.’  Broken up, whatever.

Like, if Tinsley were to meet a legacy wealthy guy in NYC during filming......then there would be no more Scott worshipping.

I don't think Tinsley is stalking Scott. Along the way, Tinsley learned some really terrible beliefs and patterns about relationships. I think Dale has instilled in her daughters the idea that no matter what, they must be married to a wealthy man and give him children. It explains why Tinsley started dating Topper in high school, married him in her senior year of high school, started college at UNC, and transfered to Columbia as a sophmore to be near Topper. She's basically been an aspiring or actual society wife from the age of 14 or 15. She never really got to date as a teen or a woman in her 20s. She never really got to party like a carefree dumbass. And some of her seeking the society limelight that destroyed her marriage was probably a bit of a delayed adolescence. When they separated, she went on a dating spree: Casimir Wittgenstein (who was also pretty abusive), Constantine Maroulis, and Lorenzo Borghese. Then she started with Nico Fanjul; he was emotionally, verbally, and physically abusive. I sense with Scott that she was trying to course correct and not drag him into the spotlight like she did with Topper. I think Scott has seen how these women talk shit about Dorinda and John and how they've talked about him and Tinsley and he wants no part of that. Additionally, Dale continues to beat that drum about marriage and children so Tinsley's not trying to make things difficult for Scott.

Ultimatums in relationships are pretty crappy, but I don't think Tinsley is empowered enough to state up front what she wants from a guy. I think she's afraid that if she's that candid, honest, or demanding, she'll scare a guy off. 

[Delete]

I just wanted to give Tinsley a big hug. 😢   I hope that one day she sees herself worthy of love that is supportive, gentle, and kind. 

[Lizzing]

I think I will forever love Sonja for schooling Ramona not to "reply all" on an email and to Google basic shit, like what "sparkly" means.  The number of times I want to respond to an email with LMGTFY is in the millions by now.  LOL!

With the Tinsley/Scott situation, I get that a normal person would not want to call up her boyfriend and give him an ultimatum in front of a national audience and her castmates because it would be embarrassing for both her and him.  But Tins also said Scott has a problem with her being in the "limelight" which I took to mean he has a problem with her being on the show and, possibly, her raising her profile doing these hosting gigs (the dog thing, the upcoming circus thing).  First, as for the show, he certainly didn't shy away from using the show for two seasons to make commercials for his coupon enterprise, so he should just suck it up on her participation in RHONY.   Second, if he does have a problem with her hosting charity events, he's a even bigger asshat.  Either way, him having a problem with how she makes her living and what she enjoys doing is super controlling if it elicits such a strong freak-out reaction in her.  I'm glad they ended things because no one needs that kind of bullshit in their lives.

I was so relieved to see Sonja's extensions gone in that blow-out scene.

[Chit Chat]

6 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

I felt so badly for that florist. Between set up and wrap, that scene probably took no longer than hour. However, I'm certain the 15 minutes with Sonja and Ramona were excruciating.

I noticed that the florist rolled her eyes as Sonja and Ramona left the store.  I'm sure they couldn't get out of there soon enough for her!  

And film noire, brilliant!

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

7 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I thought of that the second Bethenny said she had never kissed a girl

Didn't drunk Sonja lay several on her in Mexico? The Luann falling in the bushes trip.

5 hours ago, biakbiak said:

My point is Bethenny contradicts herself and tells a gazillion different version of her story with Dennis depending on what she wants to present at the moment. 

Just like she did about her parents.

Just like she did about her health.

Just like she did with Jason when she was done with him.

"Lost" "at sea."

3 hours ago, film noire said:

Lean in, sister, cuz here's what I heard!

So's Frankel and Shields started seeing each other before 2016 (Frankel testified during the custody trial last month that her "sexual and romantic relationship" with Dennis began "three to four years ago") and they dated off and on, but in the summer of 2017, this hottie Russ crosses her path,  and Russ and Bethy fall madly in love (Summer loving, had me a blast!) but Denny is all "Hunh? Bethy, I LOVE YOU!" and she's all "Tell me about it, stud" and Denny's got chills multiplying so she dumps Russ and runs back to Denny and everybody thinks Bethy and Denny are together 4-ever!  But then Bethy meets this super cute guy named Paul?  - he's like, big man on campus? - and she's all "Denny, WEVS!" and she and Paul date but then she dumps Paul end of 2017 and runs back to Denny and this time, he asks her to wear his pin  - during Spring Fling! - even though he's still pinned to Jill? - so it's a secret pinning between Denny and Bethy and they don't tell ANYBODY but then Bethy says they can never be together - she has to get off the ride! -- and Denny can't live without her, so he dies and Bethy puts on the pin Denny secretly gave her and runs back to Paul - three weeks after Denny's funeral - and climbs on top of Paul and makes sweet sweet love to him - holding the pin Denny gave her in her hand - and outside the hotel room, spectral Denny writes her a note: Dear Bethy, you look spectacular (said in Billy Crystal's old SNL Fernando Lamas voice) and then he walks away, into the mist, hopelessly devoted to her....

(That, or Bethenny sport-fucked three guys and then retroactively decided the married one proposed to her, the unmarried one was madly in love with her, and the third one was fallback guy -- twice, in December of 2017 and Sepember of 2018 -  and now he's ended up the keeper. Until further notice.)

Worthy of a repost! I mean Fernando Lamas!?!?!! BRILLZ.

[Higgins]

6 hours ago, lgprimes said:

Can’t believe that we are three pages in and nobody else has commented on how WEAK Dorinda’s phone sex game is! I don’t even think that phone call qualified...

And Tinsley, if your millionaire boyfriend lives several states away and you aren’t even having phone sex? He’s getting the real thing from somebody closer at hand.

Really? Is phone sex satisfying? Seems strange to me.

[Sun-Bun]

1 hour ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

I thought of that the second Bethenny said she had never kissed a girl

And what about that scene she filmed smooching on a gal for that raunchy soft-porn film she did a zillion years ago?(the one where Ramona once gasped about how she had SEX on a WATERBED!)

[blueiris]

It was refreshing to hear Lu finally say something genuine about alcoholism. She's right. Tinsley could certainly use Al-Anon. People don't realize that Al-Anon is about the person attending the meetings, not fixing the alcoholic that is (or was) in their life. Cause those unhealthy patterns tend to show up again and again - falling for unavailable men Tins? 

Lu is also right that alcoholism is a disease. However, currently the only known "cure" is abstinence which is the choice every single day to not pick up. The program and sponsor are all tools for a successful sobriety. And spiritual growth. Without growth, we have very little chance at long term success. 

So Lu may very well be feeling emotions without the benefit of "fueled by alcohol" so some leeway is granted - but seriously the entitled, snotty, overbearing Lu is hardly a new girl. It takes time. And work. A lot of time and work Lu. As we say at the meetings - keep coming back! 

[ivygirl]

6 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

I’ve had rheumatoid arthritis since I was 13 years old. I have a disease not caused by my decisions but by genetics. How I manage my disease is up to me. 

How Luann manages her disease is up to her, but to equate it with me or others having chronic or life threatening diseases that they had no control over getting is insulting.

I’m not minimizing her addiction or how hard it is to deal with it, but she’s minimizing the diseases of many, many people when she conflates the two and uses it as an excuse.

2 hours ago, walnutqueen said:

Luann really is insufferable.

So obnoxious. She’s suddenly the expert on addiction, so patronizing and wise in her own eyes. Tinsley’s there bawling her eyes out, and Luann’s busy lecturing her about the nature of alcoholism, while also talking about food allergy as “just an allergy” and her own disease as something that puts her in a special category for sainthood or something. Yes, Tinsley’s analogy was not exact, but Luann was so dismissive that she missed Tinsley’s overall point, as well as the broader one that she was deeply hurt and affected by her father’s alcoholism and his choices.

[Jel]

Dorinda's, "I'll meet you at Home Depot" line to Barbara was my favourite of the night.

I can't figure Barbara out -- so far, it's like she's not taking any of it seriously. Nothing seems to really phase her.

[ghoulina]

9 hours ago, LilaFowler said:

Scott has appeared on the show many times. He has sent a funeral arrangement to Colombia when he knew it would be filmed. He did commercials with some of the Housewives. NOW he's shy about being on the show? Something doesn't smell right over there.

That's what I'm saying. What about the time he surprised her by showing up in NY? He met with her mom on camera. The way Tinsley is acting about him now is completely bizarre.

It came across like he had really berated her for something similar before. 

[TV Diva Queen]

When the heck does B say to Luann “life isn’t a Cabaret?”  Every week I think it’s coming. And it doesn’t. 😕

3 hours ago, Lizzing said:

I think I will forever love Sonja for schooling Ramona not to "reply all" on an email and to Google basic shit, like what "sparkly" means.  The number of times I want to respond to an email with LMGTFY is in the millions by now.  LOL!

With the Tinsley/Scott situation, I get that a normal person would not want to call up her boyfriend and give him an ultimatum in front of a national audience and her castmates because it would be embarrassing for both her and him.  But Tins also said Scott has a problem with her being in the "limelight" which I took to mean he has a problem with her being on the show and, possibly, her raising her profile doing these hosting gigs (the dog thing, the upcoming circus thing).  First, as for the show, he certainly didn't shy away from using the show for two seasons to make commercials for his coupon enterprise, so he should just suck it up on her participation in RHONY.   Second, if he does have a problem with her hosting charity events, he's a even bigger asshat.  Either way, him having a problem with how she makes her living and what she enjoys doing is super controlling if it elicits such a strong freak-out reaction in her.  I'm glad they ended things because no one needs that kind of bullshit in their lives.

I was so relieved to see Sonja's extensions gone in that blow-out scene.

I reply JFGI. You’re a much nicer person that I am. 

[KungFuBunny]

4 hours ago, Jel said:

Dorinda's, "I'll meet you at Home Depot" line to Barbara was my favourite of the night.

I can't figure Barbara out -- so far, it's like she's not taking any of it seriously. Nothing seems to really phase her.

I also loved her Jerry Lewis put up your dukes move

Edited April 18, 2019 by KungFuBunny

[Jel]

5 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

That's what I'm saying. What about the time he surprised her by showing up in NY? He met with her mom on camera. The way Tinsley is acting about him now is completely bizarre.

It came across like he had really berated her for something similar before. 

I took it like Scott would be pissed because he'd see it as he was being mocked and made fun of -- with the women listening in and giggling, while Tinsley made her call. And the call itself would be Tinsley issuing an ultimatum (something as serious as that should not be done as a dare). When he's on the show voluntarily, he's in control of how he comes across, but in that situation, he might feel like somehow he was the brunt of the joke. She said he hates to be embarrassed, and I could see why he'd find that embarrassing. He probably doesn't like that Tinsley talks about how she wants a commitment on tv because it doesn't make him look good. 

I understood why Tinsley thought it was a bad idea, and in fairness, not a single one of them would have agreed to do anything as serious as that in that situation either.  It's too glib a way to deliver a message as important as that. I agree that she should tell him she needs a commitment or she's moving on, but not like that.

[Keywestclubkid]

The point with Beth was AT NO TIME was she serious about being with Dennis ... she is trying to portray herself has the grieving "widow" who just got engaged and it got ripped from her when she was/is anything but... she was actively dating other people even saying she was "serious" with some of these guys all while being with him. .She said she was still seeing some guy even after he gave her the ring......IN one breath She has continued to bash this man saying she wasn't really interested in him at all and how he was obsessed with her even insinuating that he killed himself because of not being able to have her and in the next try's to pull the grieving I lost the great love of my life card. which is it Beth? In all honesty Dennis was just a backup plan encase these other guys didn't work out. He was the one she knew would take her and she strung him along for that reason. she wasnt in love with him.. .........She is doing all of this for show NOTHING about this is genuine it is all crafted for a story line and for the camera. She is making EVERYTHING about Dennis even his death about her.. shes a fake shes a phony and she needs to stop  

Edited April 18, 2019 by Keywestclubkid