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Cellular peptide cake.  With, as mentioned, mint frosting.

"Phantasms" is a favorite of mine.  There were a couple of other episodes that were hallucinatory/dream state, so Dave's right, Star Trek had this covered.

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All the River's Run! It is an Australian mini-series, historical drama stuff involving shipwrecks and riverboats, and was a huge sensation at the time, but I was not allowed to watch it.

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I hope in the season finale of A Million Little Things, we find out Ron Livingston knew ALL of their secrets and just decided to peace out on his shithead friends and family, so that it is ALL of their fault.

Jeb is right about not wanting to see friends that often. A group of my friends recently started a monthly dinner get together and month three is looming next week and I am already exhausted by the thought of it.

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I've only seen the pilot of Million Little Things but I wanted to punch Ron Livingston's secretary and her blue folder of portent. I'm like, seriously, she's not going to tell ANYONE why he killed himself, when it's obviously she knows? Come the fuck on.

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I just didn't 'get' the show. Is it supposed to be all Big Chill-ish and about friends who don't know one another as well as they think they do, or is it some DUN DUN DUNNNN mystery with the evil folder of doom, or what the hell is this show? I didn't get the tone at all. It felt all over the place.

I like James Roday from Psych enough to watch a few more episodes, just to see a little bit more, but if it really starts to annoy me further (which is kind of likely at this point, I won't stick with it.

 

Random extra: "Topless Family Feud" made me laugh pretty hard.  :)

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I was waiting for Windward Circle the entire game time - very lucky for Tara to get it as the last question. There's another possible episode for the Nonac. The worst part of it was an actress (Sherilyn Fenn) they later brought back as another character who is possibly the worst part of the whole series and I'm pretty sure there was a lot of Miss Celine as well. I'm glad Alex Borstein won an Emmy this year but I still find it hard to look past that role.

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For me personally, the turning point for Friends is the Reese Witherspoon arc in Season 6. I will pretty much rewatch any rerun from the pilot up through the end of that arc. After that, I will only watch a handful. Joe put it best when he says the plot lines are warmed-over. They are all just so anemic in later seasons. Tara is correct that this cast can elevate lackluster material, but not week after week for four seasons. It’s especially jarring when TBS or other cable channels show random episodes out of order. You can see the quality difference between the earlier seasons and later seasons in stark contrast.

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The Brass Eye series was a follow-up to Chris Morris' excellent "The Day Today", which was a spoof of news programs. The Day Today has a lot more humor than the Brass Eye series, so you might want to also check that out. Plus, it gives you your first look at Steve Coogan as Alan Partridge (a character originally developed for Morris' radio series "On The Hour").

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Dave: '2012' was itself based on an Australian series called 'The Games'. It was a mockumentary (hate that word) that followed the logistics team organising the Sydney 2000 Olympics. '2012' was meant to be done.m by Working Dog, the team behind 'The Games', but the deal went weird and there was even a legal battle about it, I believe.

'Utopia' is great but 'The Games' is a goddamned classic and I've been
meaning to do a Canon
submission on it forever. It would be worth looking up - it should be pretty easy to find and I think you'd enjoy it.

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Dave was kind enough to rewatch the Dreamland/Utopia AUS pilot last night, and then we watched the next one. I like it and it does have a very "Office Rosehaven" feel to it -- or, as I said last night, "gentle Thick Of It." (Dave: "The Thin Of It.")

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A note about Dreamland...I just looked it up on Netflix, and 2 seasons are available there, but there also was note that they will only be available until 11/10/18. So, if you want to check it out, you have less time than you may have thought.

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Well done, Dan Casino, for forcening @David T. Cole to watch Australia's Utopia, which is, as noted by @Yoshi, made by the Working Dog production house. Basically, just about everything they have ever done (TV, movies, books) is gold, Jerry, gold! Their very first 'mockumentary' series, Frontline (1994–97), was a razor-sharp spoof of tabloid TV current affairs shows, and episodes have been (and still are) on the high school English and/or Media syllabus in several Australian states. Well worth seeking out. As for Utopia, it's a 'water cooler' show here in Australia even in this digital age. In episode 3 of season 3, the office was adjusting to a new IT system, and it was so hilariously true that it was excruciating. Everybody who has ever worked in an office was talking about it the next day. If you only ever watch one episode, make it that one. :)

ETA: Utopia won Australia's equivalent of an Emmy (an AACTA Award) for Best TV Comedy Series for season 1, and Celia Pacquola (who is also in Rosehaven) won one for Best Performance in a Television Comedy for season 2.

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Dave was kind enough to rewatch the Dreamland/Utopia AUS pilot last night, and then we watched the next one. I like it and it does have a very "Office Rosehaven" feel to it -- or, as I said last night, "gentle Thick Of It." (Dave: "The Thin Of It.")

[applause]

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I love Sarah Baker, it's always a delight when she pops on the screen. Last week I was watching the Brooklyn 99 episode where she plays Amy's friend who's disgusted by Jake's lack of talent during trivia night. So fun!

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I really enjoyed the first two episodes of The Conners. I tuned in last week mainly out of curiosity - I didn't watch the revival because of Roseanne's real-life hostility, but I still liked a lot of the characters from the original run. The Conners may not be appointment viewing, but I got the same sense of comfort from the second episode that I get watching re-runs of the original - this new iteration serves the characters very well, and it's nice to see that, despite the hardships they've faced, the family is still sticking by each other.

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Didn't think I was gooing to comment on the Roseanne reboot, but recent events in my life meant the bereavement storyline really made me think: my mother just had a stroke* and so thinking about mortality is definitely a thing that I can relate to - the level of hassle involved in suddenly having to cancel a whole load of engagements even for a few days in hospital was fairly significant. And from a TV point of view, I think the best episode of the (as a whole not very good) series 8 Simple Rules was the one that handled the death of John Ritter - how everyone coped (or didn't) was very poignant.

* Fortunately, a fairly minor one and she's back home today

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I'm don't expect to change anyone's mind by saying this. I understand there's a huge difference between Phi Phi the TV character and Phi Phi the person in real life.  It's hard for me to separate the two, especially when sometimes others don't.  Everyone will form their own opinions of Phi Phi the TV character and the editing certainly made her into the villain.  But just wanted to add that Phi Phi is one of the kindest, most generous people I have ever met. 

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I work for the public service in Australia (state level) and Utopia is equally loved and hated around the office for its accuracy. 

Second the recommendation of The Games too. John Clarke and Gina Riley are so wonderful. My favourite is when they realise the running track is a hair too short, which people will notice due to all the records getting broken.

On 12/10/2018 at 10:23 AM, purist said:

   Basically, just about everything they have ever done (TV, movies, books) is gold, Jerry, gold! 

 

I believe you meant to say it was

https://giphy.com/gifs/623IwdEdIQnGduK8RN 

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Maybe it's because they changed my meds, but Sabrina completely took me by surprise. I went in expecting nothing, and wound up thinking it was a bonkers, tone-shifting gem. Though Tara is right that no one quite understands bonkers tone shifting the way Michelle Gomez does -- is there a phrase that's like "girl crush" except for when a gay man does it? 

(Note: normally when I say something is because they "changed my meds" I'm being ironical, but I mean it literally this week. Sarah's call to vote made me tear up a little. It's fucking weird.)

ETA: @deangirl I think it would be a shame if you skipped Sabrina. Don't pay attention to their perfectly valid criticisms. . . concentrate on the fact that Eve, Tara, and Dave watched all 10 episodes in a row!

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Maybe it's because they changed my meds, but Sabrina completely took me by surprise. I went in expecting nothing, and wound up thinking it was a bonkers, tone-shifting gem. Though Tara is right that no one quite understands bonkers tone shifting the way Michelle Gomez does -- is there a phrase that's like "girl crush" except for when a gay man does it? 

(Note: normally when I say something is because they "changed my meds" I'm being ironical, but I mean it literally this week. Sarah's call to vote made me tear up a little. It's fucking weird.)

Well, I'm not on meds or American, and I was very touched too. As an English teacher, it's getting harder and harder to talk about the American Dream with my students.

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As somebody who saw most, if not all, of the original Charmed, I can't say I ever thought of the show in terms of tampons, except to the extent that neither product was aimed at me!

In my three decades of being eligible to vote, I think I have only missed one opportunity to do so. EXERCISE YOUR RIGHTS (or they may take them away)!

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Another teary-eyed listener here. I remember going to the voting booth with my parents and pulling the level to cast the vote and open the booth curtain. I don’t think our 3yo is getting as cool an experience since she watches us fill in bubbles, but she’s gone with us to every election (and we are in Virginia so have had primaries, gubernatorial, etc.) since she was born in May 2015.

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I can't tell you how much I adored that adorable political ad! I have good friends who cancel each other's votes Every. Single. Election. (Well, they used to. The Republican husband has veered more and more left over the years.)

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Talk of deleting Kevin Spacey from House of Cards made me think of this.

Having seen Season 1 of OOTlander, I did like the wedding episode, though I couldn't help thinking that it seemed a little easy for Claire to give up on her (first) husband. "Oh Gee, I have to cheat on Frank with a sensitive Scottish Adonis - what an awful choice!" Liked the fact that  her wedding dress was bought in the local brothel. Though I'm not sure you can call Claire a bigamist - unless Jamie jumps through to the future, he'll die about a century before Frank was even born, though quite how time travel figures into the marriage laws is a matter for debate - you'd think Doctor Who would have addressed this by now, especially given both The Doctor and The Master have been married in the new series (though not to each other - except in Fanfic).

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I went to Scotland this summer, I visited the castle that was used for Castle Leoch in season one (and as the castle from Holy Grail by the way). I think that we aren't talking enough about Sam Heughan's voice. I looooove it. It was very nice to hear him in my audio guide!




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As an Australian, I honestly think the original Rake is too 'Australian' to translate to other markets. Its sensibility, and particularly its sense of humour, are very idiosyncratic. Hell, even here not everyone 'gets' it. (I am an unashamed fan. Richard Roxburgh as Cleaver Greene is a genius creation.)

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