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I would love to see training camp with the candidates more "fresh faced."  I know on the field they have that huge board - but even then, do they need to be so shellac-ed?

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On 10/8/2019 at 11:17 AM, Anduril said:

How many more seasons do you think this show has and when do you think this show jumped the shark?

Seasons remaining - the remainder of Kelli’s career plus two.

Jumped shark moment? It may not have happened yet.  Hard.  I’d say either the pre-bikini shoot Cowboys Fit segment with the hottie trainer -or- Victoria’s mascara running down her face onto Kelli’s garment (ok, I don't know that Kelli got any on her, but I was afraid of it).

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My jump the shark season was the one with the current 3rd years because of the "all hail The Sacred Star!" crap.  Also, they took 2 who obviously (obviously to me anyway) wouldn't last (Kalyssa & Alexandria) instead of Taryn & Brennan.

So I guess I can say that my show irritation is when people who should not make the team do for the sake of drama.  More dramatic cutting Brennan again than boob-shaking Kalyssa or eyelash emergency Alexandria.

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14 hours ago, ByTor said:

My jump the shark season was the one with the current 3rd years because of the "all hail The Sacred Star!" crap.  Also, they took 2 who obviously (obviously to me anyway) wouldn't last (Kalyssa & Alexandria) instead of Taryn & Brennan.

So I guess I can say that my show irritation is when people who should not make the team do for the sake of drama.  More dramatic cutting Brennan again than boob-shaking Kalyssa or eyelash emergency Alexandria.

I legit thought Kalyssa would stick around a couple seasons before heading to The Bachelor or other influencer opportunities. Things for sure took a turn with that one! 

Alexandria one and done for sure, so disappointed she bailed so quickly tho. I was watching that season on Pluto and was like how did they cut anyone?  So many good rookies that year. Would have kept Taryn and Brennan over Christina tho. All day and twice on Tuesday. 

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13 hours ago, ByTor said:

My jump the shark season was the one with the current 3rd years because of the "all hail The Sacred Star!" crap.  Also, they took 2 who obviously (obviously to me anyway) wouldn't last (Kalyssa & Alexandria) instead of Taryn & Brennan.

So I guess I can say that my show irritation is when people who should not make the team do for the sake of drama.  More dramatic cutting Brennan again than boob-shaking Kalyssa or eyelash emergency Alexandria.

touch the star......

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Not sure if this was posted before but I really HATE that they dont call the girls in order at finals ... how stupid to see a girl called only to see her still sitting when Kelli announces 5 girls left ... this is not drama to me its annoying ... do they think we are not smart enough to notice this ... please just show the names in sequence for pete's sake 🙄

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2 hours ago, lah715 said:

Not sure if this was posted before but I really HATE that they dont call the girls in order at finals ... how stupid to see a girl called only to see her still sitting when Kelli announces 5 girls left ... this is not drama to me its annoying ... do they think we are not smart enough to notice this ... please just show the names in sequence for pete's sake 🙄

I agree 100%

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3 hours ago, lah715 said:

Not sure if this was posted before but I really HATE that they dont call the girls in order at finals ... how stupid to see a girl called only to see her still sitting when Kelli announces 5 girls left ... this is not drama to me its annoying ... do they think we are not smart enough to notice this ... please just show the names in sequence for pete's sake 🙄

26 minutes ago, MrsEVH said:

I agree 100%

Ditto

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I really like Melissa Rycroft. Cracked me up when she said that to Vivian (I think because it’s exactly something that I would’ve said). 

I have nothing against MR.  The thing I don't like, though, is her mentoring certain girls AND being a judge.  That could lead her to not picking who's the best, but picking a pet project or two who would make a good storyline for her.  I think her role should be "ok, this is who the judges picked, these are the ones that need the most help" . Either that or just let her judge.

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21 minutes ago, ByTor said:

I have nothing against MR.  The thing I don't like, though, is her mentoring certain girls AND being a judge.  That could lead her to not picking who's the best, but picking a pet project or two who would make a good storyline for her.  I think her role should be "ok, this is who the judges picked, these are the ones that need the most help" . Either that or just let her judge.

I can most definitely get on board with that! 

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17 minutes ago, Jazzhands said:

Does Melissa actually pick the TCCs she “mentors”?  I just assumed it was a production decision, but then again, I’m a cynic.  

If she does do an end of season podcast with Scott talking about the show, we should ask her.  I also assume it's production with pressure, I mean input, from Kelli😁

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6 hours ago, Jazzhands said:

Does Melissa actually pick the TCCs she “mentors”?  I just assumed it was a production decision, but then again, I’m a cynic.  

5 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

If she does do an end of season podcast with Scott talking about the show, we should ask her.  I also assume it's production with pressure, I mean input, from Kelli😁

IIRC, insider info from back during Kyndall’s first or second Training Camp, it is actually CMT that sets up the “mentoring sessions” with Melissa. MTT producers ask Judy whom she thinks could use a mentor session (basically the strugglers) along with a vet who should assist, and Judy provides the names. CMT then asks these specific girls if they want to attend the session. The session isn’t mandatory (from Kelli and Judys perspective), but it does get back to them if a TCC turns it down. 

This info all came out the year Kyndall either turned down or skipped the “mentoring session” that Melissa and Megan C did. Apparently Megan C confronted Kyndall at practice, either that evening or whenever the next practice was about not showing up. Then someone on the forum said Megan C is a mean-girl and everyone took sides. (For what’s its worth, I think all girls have the capacity to act in a way that could be considered “mean-girl.”)

The confrontation wasn’t filmed (or at least didn’t air) and the mentoring session wasn’t included in the episode, but as a stand alone clip on the CMT:MTT website. 

Not sure what the deal is now with the new production team. 

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1 hour ago, KnyghtRyder said:

IIRC, insider info from back during Kyndall’s first or second Training Camp, it is actually CMT that sets up the “mentoring sessions” with Melissa.

I think you definitely are remembering correctly...at least that's how I also remember it.  So even though she technically doesn't choose who she mentors, I think she could make predictions of who would make good mentoring stories & as a judge would recommend those candidates.  I'm sure there's a Breelan every year 🙂  

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Have we ever seen the end of year banquet on the show the following season? I don’t think we have. 
 

Mark my words, Auntie Kelli will make sure Milkshake Kalina will win ROY, and we will see it on camera. 🙄

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8 hours ago, KnyghtRyder said:

IIRC, insider info from back during Kyndall’s first or second Training Camp, it is actually CMT that sets up the “mentoring sessions” with Melissa. MTT producers ask Judy whom she thinks could use a mentor session (basically the strugglers) along with a vet who should assist, and Judy provides the names. CMT then asks these specific girls if they want to attend the session. The session isn’t mandatory (from Kelli and Judys perspective), but it does get back to them if a TCC turns it down. 

This info all came out the year Kyndall either turned down or skipped the “mentoring session” that Melissa and Megan C did. Apparently Megan C confronted Kyndall at practice, either that evening or whenever the next practice was about not showing up. Then someone on the forum said Megan C is a mean-girl and everyone took sides. (For what’s its worth, I think all girls have the capacity to act in a way that could be considered “mean-girl.”)

The confrontation wasn’t filmed (or at least didn’t air) and the mentoring session wasn’t included in the episode, but as a stand alone clip on the CMT:MTT website. 

Not sure what the deal is now with the new production team. 

Didn't Kyndall work full time? I remember a VT of her practising in the office toilets. They say they want the girls to have full time careers outside of DCC yet seem to hold workshops and extra sessions during weekdays. You can't penalise people for working! Hold the sessions on weekends instead!

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2 hours ago, DCC-UK said:

Didn't Kyndall work full time? I remember a VT of her practising in the office toilets. They say they want the girls to have full time careers outside of DCC yet seem to hold workshops and extra sessions during weekdays. You can't penalise people for working! Hold the sessions on weekends instead!

Yes she did work full time, at least her first time in TC, and I think she had one of those jobs where she only got certain amount of time for breaks/lunch. Then (again IIRC) I think it was also Kyndall who had a boss that was kind of a jerk and possibly released/fired her. I can’t recall if that was her 1st or 2nd TC and if her firing was addressed on the show or on the forums. Anyway, the clock in the background of Melissa/Megan C mentoring session indicated that it was 4pm. Very possibly she just couldn’t get off work in time. 

Side rant: I always thought it was kinda shitty for the girls who have to work to live/eat/survive are competing against girls who live with their parents, work (at most) 10 hours a week, who don’t go to school, and who don’t have to cook/clean/shop/bring home the bacon. They are probably so exhausted and stressed. No wonder they are always crying. 

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15 hours ago, KnyghtRyder said:


Side rant: I always thought it was kinda shitty for the girls who have to work to live/eat/survive are competing against girls who live with their parents, work (at most) 10 hours a week, who don’t go to school, and who don’t have to cook/clean/shop/bring home the bacon. They are probably so exhausted and stressed. No wonder they are always crying. 

I always felt the same. The DCC has “full time” expectations for this “part time, it’s an honor to cheer for us you should want to do it for free” position. 

They want to be able to brag about the jobs that women on their team hold, but hold it against them when they have to choose said job over a TV mentoring session they are arent likely getting paid for. 

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16 hours ago, KnyghtRyder said:

I think it was also Kyndall who had a boss that was kind of a jerk and possibly released/fired her

She said she parted ways with her job...then clarified that they parted ways with her LOL.  I always imagined that she was spending a lot of time in the ladies room, someone went in to see if she was ok, and she was found there barefoot, dancing.

16 hours ago, KnyghtRyder said:

I always thought it was kinda shitty for the girls who have to work to live/eat/survive are competing against girls who live with their parents, work (at most) 10 hours a week, who don’t go to school, and who don’t have to cook/clean/shop/bring home the bacon. They are probably so exhausted and stressed. No wonder they are always crying. 

Another reason I ❤️ Brennan!

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Get rid of the new opening theme for the show!  I am embarrassed for them with that horrible song.

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1 hour ago, Sunnykm said:

Get rid of the new opening theme for the show!  I am embarrassed for them with that horrible song.

Amen! That theme makes me cringe! 

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6 hours ago, ABC1234567 said:

Moving across the field /entrance should be a part of auditions

Yes!  Since they're on the field, they can get an idea of how good/bad they are at hitting the hash marks.

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10 hours ago, ByTor said:

Yes!  Since they're on the field, they can get an idea of how good/bad they are at hitting the hash marks.

It should be a part of finals when they're in groups of fives performing on the field. I actually really like the entrance so I'd like to see more of it. Seeing amazing dancers struggle with it makes it even more exciting! 

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On 10/16/2019 at 2:45 AM, Sunnykm said:

Get rid of the new opening theme for the show!  I am embarrassed for them with that horrible song.

Thank heaven for Fast Forward!

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How many steps do they do to cross 10 yards in the entrance.  I just visited ATT stadium and my short legs would have a hard time trying to do it in less than 6.  Of course I didn't try the full entrance which may have given me more yardage

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41 minutes ago, Lexusprincess said:

How many steps do they do to cross 10 yards in the entrance.  I just visited ATT stadium and my short legs would have a hard time trying to do it in less than 6.  Of course I didn't try the full entrance which may have given me more yardage

They do four counts per five yards, or an eight count over 10 yards when they’re traveling during the entrance.  That’s quick.  Typical marching band pace is eight counts to five yards.  

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5 hours ago, Lexusprincess said:

How many steps do they do to cross 10 yards in the entrance.  I just visited ATT stadium and my short legs would have a hard time trying to do it in less than 6.  Of course I didn't try the full entrance which may have given me more yardage

I can just picture you on the tour, whipping a set of poms out, playing TS on your phone and going for it😂

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8 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

I can just picture you on the tour, whipping a set of poms out, playing TS on your phone and going for it😂

I thought about it. The cheerleader's locker room was my favorite part of the tour.  One of the other guests on the tour from "across the pond" had her husband take a picture on the 50 with her on her knees and then shifted to the side.  He got into it.  She probably would have joined me in formation.  I rewarded myself with an ABBE bear for being such a good fan.

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8 hours ago, Lexusprincess said:

I thought about it. The cheerleader's locker room was my favorite part of the tour.  One of the other guests on the tour from "across the pond" had her husband take a picture on the 50 with her on her knees and then shifted to the side.  He got into it.  She probably would have joined me in formation.  I rewarded myself with an ABBE bear for being such a good fan.

I would definitely milk it too, probably do the splits to pretend I'd just completed the kickline! I would love to visit Dallas some day!

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