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Sonja's tour through her new apartment is fun. My color must be off tho as she calls her bedroom blue & it's green on my screen. It's a twee place but she seems happy& that's good. It's not falling down around her so yay!

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13 hours ago, Lizzing said:

Guac-a-mola, and she pondered whether to serve it or "saltza".

I can't help but love that this show is back, even if this season is starting on a downer (death, alcoholism, tragic window treatments) note.    

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8 hours ago, ghoulina said:

I don't think so. I think grief is such a unique and personal thing. Everyone deals with death differently. Some people want to be surrounded by support. Some people want to be alone. Some people don't know what they want. And those who are on the outside often don't know the best way to be there for the grieving person. I say, as long as you reach out in SOME WAY, you're good. Let the person know you care. 

Dorinda wasn't on the best terms with B at that time, and Ramona hasn't been good with her in awhile. So it would seem weirder to me if they were showing up with flowers and food and trying to be all chummy. 

IIRC they taped the reunion mid July and went to start taping the new season pretty soon after.

At the reunion, Dorinda and Ramona were saying that Bethenny was opportunistic for going to Bobby's funeral and being filmed. She wasn't on good terms with either one and probably gave the condolence texts they sent the side eye

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8 hours ago, oakville said:

I enjoyed the season premiere. I loved the fish platter that Bethenny put out.

The thing that annoyed me about that was Bethenny calling it a "Fish" platter when she is allergic to "fish"

Why not call it a shellfish platter or seafood platter

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20 hours ago, bosawks said:

I feel like a shit for saying this but I’m already sick of hearing about Dennis.

Me, too...except I don't feel like a shit for saying so.

Between not realizing Barbara is a HW, and her eyeshadow, I actually jumped back when she appeared in a TH.

12 hours ago, Coffeewinewater said:

Eta: I alway thought it was duck tape , made no sense but that's what I thought lol.

"Duck Tape" is a famous brand of duct tape, so you're not really wrong in your thinking. 

I wonder if Beth asked Barbara beforehand if she's allergic to shellfish, then double-checked, and then asked her again when she arrived for lunch.

Is that Tinsley and Sonja kissing in the previews? <shallow>Bring that on.</shallow>

Pretty lackluster premiere. Hopefully, the season doesn't suffer from the rush to film SkinnyWidow.

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On Sonja, again: she is now right by a couple of excellent bakeries, exceptional restaurants, and a WF and Williams-Sonoma.  And Jazz at Lincoln Center!   Even if it’s a nondescript high-rise on the outside, Sonja can change her life in a deep and meaningful way if she explores a little.   I know she’s also a hop skip from Beautique... I’m just weirdly sentimental towards her now.

I figured it would be a good location when she pointed out Columbus Circle.  I don’t see the view from the townhouse but maybe I’m missing something.  The pastels are an interesting choice.  I get that she’s renting but maybe that peel and stick wallpaper.  Meh, I don’t have to live there.  

So the townhouse is renting for how much and the rent on this place is how much?  If she were a better money manager I would see this as a nice way to make money.

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I watched this franchise for the NYC porn but after last night, the neverending saga that sucks the life out of this show, Bethanny, along with Stupid Sonja, Horny Ramona, LuAnn's fake redemption tour, and the vapidness that is Tinsely, I think I'm out. I don't know how I can sit through another hour of this. On my deathbed, I'm pretty sure I'll regret watching this and wish I could at least have those hours back...

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I'd be more surprised if BF didn't have product placement going on. I guess I'm so used to it I don't even notice it anymore - lmao 🙂 Overall I'm so happy RHONY is back on - all the other RH shows pale in comparison (IMO of course). I could have done without the Carole mentions. Maybe 1. But there were too many. I hope that fades away. I seriously hope she doesn't make a guest appearance with one of her "dream team" members, but I wouldn't be surprised if she did show up. Dennis's death had to be brought up - hopefully it isn't brought up all season though. As others have mentioned, I really do appreciate how the east coast gals, well the NY gals that is (because the RHONJ ladies are horrifyingly overly made up, too much plastic surgery etc - and WTH was up with Danielle's face? She looked even more like Madame the puppet) ANYWHO - I'm digressing, I really love how the NY gals feel fine being on camera without all the makeup, designer gear, glam squads etc. I hope they never change! Although this episode was a wee slow, I don't mind overall and I'm looking forward to this season 😉

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21 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

I've always thought I was at a table for one in regards to Ramona. She never fails to crack me up - even when she is horrible. I have to confess even if Ramona were to pull out a fried toddler and start chewing I'd still love her

I love her!  She's awkward as fuck, but I bet she'd be a fun person to be around and a good friend IRL.  Her fight with Aviva was one of my favorite episodes. 

http://www.bravotv.com/video/share/19248743

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I am so used to this show coming back in April. It threw me off. 😂

Already way more interesting than never ending dog gate BH.

Sonja and her apartment amused me the most. Her freaking towels. Can she not afford temporary blinds. I am going to miss seeing her townhouse. 

Tinsley still an idiot. Nothing new. Though I would be scared shitless to drive in NYC. 

New girl seems annoying. I cant warm up to new housewives right away. Especially if they could be a one season type. 

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5 hours ago, biakbiak said:

It was mentioned several times that Lu lived in the Hamptons so is she forgoing her usual rent an apartment in the city for filming nonsense? If so between that and her not being able to secure a mortgage for the other house I am wondering about the state of her finances.

She originally wanted to sell her Hamptons home and buy a more expensive place upstate.  That's when the lawsuit happened, to stop the sale of the Hamptons home. She then purchased a less expensive home upstate.

https://www.bravotv.com/home-design/luann-de-lesseps-buys-a-million-dollar-waterfront-home-in-upstate-new-york

Not sure if she signed the Hamptons home over to the kids or if she still spends any time there.  The article says that she actually maintains 3 homes.

From what I've read/heard about her cabarete show, it's selling well. List of upcoming shows: Vegas, LA, Chicago  I'd guess that between that & the Bravo gig, she's not hurting for money.

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What exactly is the point of having Tinsley on this show? She’s such a no-never-mind, as my older sister used to say. She’s not mean or hateful or criminal but neither does she offer anything interesting. She’s just meh. Get a life, girl! You’re not getting any younger!!

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52 minutes ago, snarts said:

She originally wanted to sell her Hamptons home and buy a more expensive place upstate.  That's when the lawsuit happened, to stop the sale of the Hamptons home. She then purchased a less expensive home upstate.

The original Catskills place wasn’t more expensive than the Hamptons home and in her own words the only reason she was going to sell the Hamptons home is that she couldn’t secure financing from the bank. She hasn’t owned a place in NYC for a longtime and this year it doesn’t even seem to be that she is going to rent an apartment in the city for filming like she has done in the past which is why I was questioning her finances.

The Ticketmaster site only lists 7 dates from now until August while I am sure she is making money but that’s not a lot of shows. I know for the LA shows there have been a ton of comps and other shows were listed on Groupon.

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I may be misremembering but for some reason, I recall Lou saying or writing somewhere that she was going to sell the Hampton’s house (that the kids grew up in) when they objected and filed the lawsuit to prohibit her from doing that. Except (!) that’s not what the lawsuit was about. She’d already sold that house, bought the one in Sag Harbor and THAT was the house she was going to sell. The lawsuit was to stop her selling the SH house and buying one in upstate NY because she hadn’t fulfilled the part of the divorce decree that said she had to put half of the proceeds in a trust for her two children. Lu just can’t seem to tell the truth. Even with that, her daughter, at least, is still loyal to her. No word from Noel as far as I know.

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5 hours ago, ghoulina said:

Feelings are complicated. My friend just lost her bio father, who lives out of state and she hasn't seen in years. Her step-dad raised her and she considers him her "dad". She didn't really have a relationship, outside of random social media interaction, with her bio father at the time he was murdered. But she's absolutely gutted. Death brings a lot of feelings up, feelings you may not have even known you had. And who's to say she can't just be sad about the loss of a life? Even if she wasn't going to remain in a romantic relationship with him, he was still so young and died in a such a tragic way. I won't begrudge her her tears. 

I don't even think it borders on sexual harassment. I think it WAS sexual harassment. The man was paid to be there; he was technically working for her. So if he felt uncomfortable, he may have also felt he couldn't speak up. He may have feared he'd lose money, lose his reputation as a teacher, etc. It was completely inappropriate. She was so offended by George's comments are few years back. Hers aren't nearly as graphic; but they're wrong never-the-less. 

Ramoaner and Sonja have great figures, nice skin and a sexy vibe.  Maybe they are trying to prove that they still “have it” by flirting and coming on to men.  Don’t forget, both of their husbands left them for other women.  Maybe it’s a mental thing.

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29 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

The original Catskills place wasn’t more expensive than the Hamptons home and in her own words the only reason she was going to sell the Hamptons home is that she couldn’t secure financing from the bank. She hasn’t owned a place in NYC for a longtime and this year it doesn’t even seem to be that she is going to rent an apartment in the city for filming like she has done in the past which is why I was questioning her finances.

The original upstate home was more expensive than the one she eventually bought. She couldn't secure financing unless she unloaded the Hamptons home. So she put it on the market and the kids filed suit. 

As for whether she still maintains a pied-a-terre in the city, I guess we'll see. I was merely pointing out what the linked Bravo article from Nov 2018 stated. 

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20 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

This is going to be a lonnnnnnnng season!

What happened to the NYC ladies?  They all look so old so!  Even ageless Tinsley. Maybe the camera people forgot to use filters.

Seriously, Tinsley.  Grow the phuk up!  That driving scene was pretty painful. I believe the car is a rental/promo. Not buying this Scott sent car from Chicago. Then the most expensive car, too......you would think there is a lot of parking in NYC. 

Noooooooooo!  Sonja’s old apartment is epic!  Don’t like her new dump. Whenever her ‘Assistant’ brought her breakfast......she literally turned around and was right there at Sonja’s bedroom door. HA! 

Was that shelf next to her bed  with the shoes her....Sonja Shoes....business???

The one with the Family Crest???  Hahahahahahahah!

Ok, I am going to stop here, but I will quickly add. Ramona’s NYC apartment and Hamptons are beautiful. Well done on the remodeling! 

Oh! That 50+ Euro man is supposed to be a very expensive swim teacher for rich UES ladies?  Ummmmmmmm....?  

Getting good vibes from the new HW.  Glad she is B’s friends so we can lessen the.....mean girl initiation routine. Hahha! Just like B....she started pimping her hammer and nails kit, ASAP.

Is Lulu riding a Vespa because they took away her drivers license? 

Hahaha ..here I thought that was a designer bag and it turned out to be a tool kit after I looked it up.  I never saw her or that bag before.

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Anyone ever notice that most of these women have a clothes rack or shoe rack right next to their bed?  What?  No closets in their rooms or do they have so much clothing?  I’ve never seen anything like this.

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8 minutes ago, LucindaWalsh said:

Oh my forking gosh! You have got to sign in every episode all season with this!

@bosawks I am not stalking you, you are just funny as hell so far!

I am waiting until this weekend to watch the show but yes to the poster who said BF needs tissues. I had it on in the background, muted and I could hear the snot being sucked back in.

That would be me, lol.  Every time she cries, which is pretty often.

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7 hours ago, njbchlover said:

Also, the two bottles of  Skinny Girl salad dressing, placed so carefully, labels out, in front of the salad bowl when Bethenny was putting lunch out for her friends!  

It’s obvious that Bethenny is on this show for product placement and “building” her brand. It’s one big infomercial for Skinny GIrl.

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I am always embarrassed when Ramona and Sonja flirt. It just seems so creepy at their ages. I do think it’s funny that Ramona thinks she is hot and all of the men in New York are pursuing her. 

Is Dorinda in a new apartment? 

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1 minute ago, PradaKitty said:

I am always embarrassed when Ramona and Sonja flirt. It just seems so creepy at their ages. I do think it’s funny that Ramona thinks she is hot and all of the men in New York are pursuing her. 

Is Dorinda in a new apartment? 

I don’t find it creepy because of their ages I find it embarrassing because they are so bad at it and I imagine they have always been bad at it. 

Based on the clip when she was talking to Barbara ir looks like she is in the same apartment. 

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50 minutes ago, geauxaway said:

I’ll need a reminder of which stage of grief is “let your 9 year old text your dead ex not boyfriend.”   I get the weird things we do as adults to deal with grief.  Been there, done that.  But your 9 year old daughter?  Come on now.  That’s all sorts of fucked up.  

I don't think its so strange. People used to go to the cemetery and talk to a loved one. The children went also. In this age of technology I see this as much the same thing. 

If it helps her deal with the loss, what's so bad?

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26 minutes ago, Reality police said:

I don't think its so strange. People used to go to the cemetery and talk to a loved one. The children went also. In this age of technology I see this as much the same thing. 

If it helps her deal with the loss, what's so bad?

In my opinion, a 9 year old texting anyone, let alone my dead ex not boyfriend, is inappropriate.  I don’t even know if I’d let my 10 year old text my mom from my phone, he just doesn’t need that access.

As for visiting the cemetery.  I’d like to meet a 9 year old that has willingly asked to go to a cemetery to talked to a deceased.  I don’t feel that is something most well adjusted kids have on their “to do” list.   

Brynn already has enough on her plate for a 9 year old.  Her parents HATE each other and now her mommy’s special friend died from drugs.  I’d just like the kid to get a break.  Even if she did for some reason ask to text Dennis, B could have kept that off the show.  Her daughter’s grief shouldn’t be on camera if her daughter is not allowed on camera.  She pulled this same thing to a certain extent when she posted a pic of Brynn crying over Cookie’s portrait on IG.  I honestly thought she wasn’t supposed to really speak about her much at all. 

As for a positive on B, like I said before ADULTS handle grief in all sorts of ways.  I won’t judge her at all on how she handles it herself.  

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10 hours ago, kicksave said:

I'm sorry...I think Ramona's "flirting" borders on  sexual harassment. I thought she was out of line with the swimming instructor...he was trying to be professional but she kept making sexual innuendo and commentary that made me embarrassed for him. If this was reversed and it was a man doing this to her or any woman, she would be crying #MeToo. Her over the top come ons to people she employs are pathetic and cross boundaries...she knows better.

I agree with you, except for the last three words.  I don't think she knows better.  I think she thinks it's cute and sexy and welcome. 

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3 hours ago, Gem 10 said:

Ramoaner and Sonja have great figures, nice skin and a sexy vibe. 

Actually, I was shocked at how Ramona looked in her bathing suit.  Her torso looks like a barrel, and it wasn't that long ago that she was flouncing around in bikinis. 

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Dang Dorinda is back. 

Spittle, sluring in Dorindish, and open mouth chewing. It will happen.

How many times is she gonna mention her dead husband this season?

Why Bravo?

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17 hours ago, SweetieDarling said:

Luann to Barbara: "You're my DYI guru" 

Ha and then she said it again and Barbara finally corrected her. 

12 hours ago, biakbiak said:

It was mentioned several times that Lu lived in the Hamptons so is she forgoing her usual rent an apartment in the city for filming nonsense? If so between that and her not being able to secure a mortgage for the other house I am wondering about the state of her finances.

She still owns her NYC apartment.

https://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/home-design/luann-de-lesseps-nyc-apartment-photos

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11 minutes ago, Duke2801 said:

Ha and then she said it again and Barbara finally corrected her. 

She still owns her NYC apartment.

https://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/home-design/luann-de-lesseps-nyc-apartment-photos

Nowhere in that article does it mention she owns that place and it’s a different space than last year. It says she moved in which she has “moved in” to a new apartment every year since the divorce to the count. Most of the time she she spends less than a year there.

Etc: which divorce.

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5 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

Nowhere in that article does it mention she owns that place. It says she moved in which she has “moved in” to a new apartment every year since the divorce. Most of the time she she spends less than a year there.

That other Bravo article somebody linked (regarding her new upstate NY home) says she owns this apartment.  If you’re that curious I’m sure you can find out its ownership status online.

But regardless. You asked about whether she’d be doing an apartment  search again this season, and there’s your answer: no, she will not. 

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5 minutes ago, Duke2801 said:

But regardless. You asked about whether she’d be doing an apartment  search again this season, and there’s your answer: no, she will not. 

No I asked if she was doing the rent an apartment for a few months thing that she normally does. All of her real estate transactions have been tracked since she has been on the show since they are public record and there is no indication other than a poorly worded sentence on the bravo blog that she “owns” this new place so I am going with this is her regular mo of renting a place for a few months in the fall/winter. Last year on IG and a few interviews before the season started she also tried to pretend that her short term rental was her new long term place.

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16 hours ago, Sharonana said:

I was staring at it too. Her nose is crooked and one nostril is bigger than the other. Something weird happened to her face during the off season. 🤷‍♀️

Yes!!!

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15 hours ago, ghoulina said:

I don't even think it borders on sexual harassment. I think it WAS sexual harassment. The man was paid to be there; he was technically working for her. So if he felt uncomfortable, he may have also felt he couldn't speak up. He may have feared he'd lose money, lose his reputation as a teacher, etc. It was completely inappropriate. She was so offended by George's comments are few years back. Hers aren't nearly as graphic; but they're wrong never-the-less. 

Before George, remember her storming off the set over the MENTION of Alex's nude pictures? Just the thought of a naked person so upset Ramona's sensibilities, but now? She'll happily maul anyone she can get her mitts on!

14 hours ago, RHJunkie said:

The busiest thing about Sonja is her mouth - I hear talk about how she busy she is than ever see her actually look busy. Overall, I don’t mind Sonja but I don’t like seeing scenes with her ‘interns’ because it just reminds me that she’s taking advantage of people by promising them attributes for a resume but it’s really just an excuse to get people to do things for her without paying them appropriately for their services. And speaking of Sonja, I don’t know how she managed to stay so calm with Tinsley behind the wheel. Her lack of confidence was so troubling that I would never agree to sit in a car with her behind the wheel unless we were driving in rural streets where the only people we’re sharing the road with are tumbleweeds.

I want to know where the interns are sleeping in the new place and also how she is justifying the need for them.  Before it was "oh, it's so hard to handle this huge home, and I have all this room, so people send their kids here, they have a safe place to stay, they learn the finer graces and they help me with my calendar, it's a win-win" Because Miss Sonja's Finishing School of the Funky Ice will teach you all the needed social skills, like fishing things out of toilets, how to properly cleanse your face in the bidet, what the absolute lowest temperature you can set your heat to before pipes freeze, and how to harass any man who gets within 50 yards of your stoop.

9 hours ago, biakbiak said:

The original Catskills place wasn’t more expensive than the Hamptons home and in her own words the only reason she was going to sell the Hamptons home is that she couldn’t secure financing from the bank. She hasn’t owned a place in NYC for a longtime and this year it doesn’t even seem to be that she is going to rent an apartment in the city for filming like she has done in the past which is why I was questioning her finances.

There have been a lot of rumors swirling in the last few years about Lulu and her money.  Her façade seems to be slowly chipping away, and she's not going to go the happy, goofy Grey Gardens route that Sonja does.  Sonja has no shame in announcing that she has to grab the sharpie to cover up a scratch in her 20 plus year old Chanel bag.  That's NOT Lu, she will die before she lets someone know that she doesn't have the best things.  She is THE COUNTESS.

8 hours ago, Gem 10 said:

Anyone ever notice that most of these women have a clothes rack or shoe rack right next to their bed?  What?  No closets in their rooms or do they have so much clothing?  I’ve never seen anything like this.

For some, I think it's a lack of space, like Sonja.  Maybe Dorinda, because I think she has a relatively small space, too.  For others, though, and Bethenny might be one of them, it could be that they had someone pull the clothes for specific events.  I could definitely see several of the BH girls having stylists pull outfits (obviously Erika), and I could see Bethenny doing it, if for nothing else, for when she's traveling for work.  Having a person put together the outfits, and making sure the stuff matches and you're appropriate at all of the events would totally be the type of thing I'd pay for if money was no object.  I hate getting somewhere and realizing I forgot the bra that works best with this top, or whatever.  But, that's the other reason I think the racks pop up.

6 hours ago, Reality police said:

I don't think its so strange. People used to go to the cemetery and talk to a loved one. The children went also. In this age of technology I see this as much the same thing. 

If it helps her deal with the loss, what's so bad?

I think people are encouraged to express their feelings in general now.  Some kids that I know lost their grandparent and they were basically told that he is always there with them in spirit and that any time they missed the person, they could just talk to them.  They were encouraged to tell the person about their day, any special news, whatever made the kid feel better.  So, honestly, if it helps Brynn to feel like she's saying what she needs to, for her to express the emotion and get it out, then if it takes the form of a text, it's not a big deal.  I'll admit, part of me wishes I could still leave voicemails for my grandfather, who has been dead for over a decade.  Just calling and hearing his voice would be reassuring sometimes, and I know he wouldn't get the message, but, it would make me feel a bit better. 

On to another topic, Ramona's nose has looked wonky for a bit.  It is far more wonky this year, though.  If you look back, it's always been a bit crooked and the one nostril was bigger than the other.  It's just much more noticeable this year for some reason.  At some point she'll spill what she did.

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11 hours ago, LucindaWalsh said:

@bosawks I am not stalking you, you are just funny as hell so far!

Why thank you, apparently I should watch this show after taking a decongestant more often, it was pretty enjoyable on my Sudafed high.

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If Bethany prattles on any faster I'll need an interpreter and subtitles. She sounded like she was off her meds.

At least she can match Dorinda with "my dead boyfriend" or "Dennis used to....".

Already with the Skinny Girl product placement. If I were Ramona or Sonja I wouldn't acknowledge nor congratulate anything she does this year. 

I'd like to see Jill this season. It wouldn't be the same because she would be on her best behavior hoping for an apple. She's the one person who might be able to put Bethany in her place I just don't want her to become a Danielle to Bethany's Teresa and attach her lips to Bethany's rear end. I'd like to see Heather back to check Bethany.

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18 hours ago, njbchlover said:

Also, the two bottles of  Skinny Girl salad dressing, placed so carefully, labels out, in front of the salad bowl when Bethenny was putting lunch out for her friends!  

I love Bethenny, but hawking her products all over the place is annoying.  She had a good lemonade drink going in the beginning, and then it disappeared.  If everyone was buying, why is it gone?  P.s.  she looks too skinny and not healthy looking, IMO.

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1 hour ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

How many times do we think Lu is going to mention that she’s now a cabaret STAR this season?!

Probably even more than she mentioned being in a relationship with Tom (during their courtship and marriage)...considering that this cabaret stuff has lasted longer than the entirety of her knowing Tom, my ballpark guess is that it's going to be mentioned of a whole fucking lot.

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4 hours ago, biakbiak said:

No I asked if she was doing the rent an apartment for a few months thing that she normally does. All of her real estate transactions have been tracked since she has been on the show since they are public record and there is no indication other than a poorly worded sentence on the bravo blog that she “owns” this new place so I am going with this is her regular mo of renting a place for a few months in the fall/winter. Last year on IG and a few interviews before the season started she also tried to pretend that her short term rental was her new long term place.

The narrative being pushed, despite published reports to the contrary, that Luann is in some dire financial straits, doesn't ring true.  Regardless of whether she rents or owns a pied-a-terre in the city during filming, she maintains three residences.  In addition to her Bravo income (likely $300K+), there's been enough demand for her cabaret show to support tour dates across the country.  No promoter would sign up for that unless it's successful financially. 

Luann indeed has plenty of flaws but going broke doesn't appear to be one of them. Sonja is in a class of one in that regard.  We've seen her with multiple assistants/interns, crowing about the South of France and all her products.  The child support money is going to dry up soon and she's spent whatever settlement she received.  She's selling shoes out of her apartment.  None of the other ladies have similar financial issues.  That said, I'm amused by Sonja on the show and hope that she continues (plus, she really needs the money 😂)

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22 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

I love Bethenny, but hawking her products all over the place is annoying.  She had a good lemonade drink going in the beginning, and then it disappeared.  If everyone was buying, why is it gone?  P.s.  she looks too skinny and not healthy looking, IMO.

Other than occasionally seeing her booze I don't see her other stuff on the shelves in my area anymore. I wasn't looking for her crap but when I did see it it was on the last chance sale rack.

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Ok, I just watched last night and I am so glad this is back.  As other posters have said, this is the best franchise by FAR and I was entertained the whole hour! 

I want to know what is going on with Luann and her relationships with her kids.  They sued her but then she was talking to her daughter on the phone in this ep and inviting her to her show, right? 

I am sure that we will hear a lot about Dennis this season because of course it had a huge effect on Bethenny during the months of filming.  It had just happened.  

I love everyone in the cast.  They are both awesome and awful.  Can't wait for more episodes!

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