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S11.E01: Divided, They Summer


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1 hour ago, Kemper said:

The scene in Sonja's apartment - when Ramona "dropped" by.  I could not believe how "natural" Sonja and Romana looked in comparison to the NJ Housewives, who preceded it, Sonja especially. Without all the makeup she looked 10 years younger; Ramona's hair was shorter and she didn't have tons of makeup on, either.  Then LuAnn, who looked natural.  Dorinda also didn't have much makeup on; but she didn't look nearly as good as the others; of course, she was working out/walking outdoors.  

And yes, in response to a comment above - already sick of what would appear to be Beth's storyline this season... Dennis.

And...here is Tinsley.

The Jersey girls pile on the eye makeup so dark.  Not fitting for their age.  The New York wives are made up more natural and more appropriate I think.  More classy.

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Unable to see the show in my current location.  Thanks for the updates and visuals of what is going on!

Is this new Barbara the same Barbara who I believe was involved with gossip around Lu's marriage?

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1 hour ago, KungFuBunny said:

Bwahahaha!

Seriously temporary paper blinds from Home Depot, Lowes, Target - under 10 bucks

Even a nice sheet tacked up would have looked better!

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59 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I think they all are looking rough - including Bethenny.  Tinsley doesn't look rough, but she looks different.  I think that she spent all that time in Chicago letting Scott pay for getting some strategic plastic surgery.

And the new girl - Barbara-?  I think she's on the wrong franchise - she seems to be a much better fit for NJ.

Barbara is quite the big deal.  I read she is the CEO of a major construction company in the city.

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I thought Sonja’s apartment looked dated from the outside and inside. Better than her townhouse though. The pink walls and black or navy lacquered doors sounds awful. She had what I assumed was a fake Birkin in some of her scenes. No way can she afford a $14,000 handbag. 

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9 minutes ago, endure said:

Even a nice sheet tacked up would have looked better!

She could have done a homemade treatment for her windows - epsom salt, water, dish liquid soap - this would give her the frosted look allowing light to still come in but providing total privacy. Then all she would have to do is wipe it off

Even taking a bar of soap and rubbing it all over the window would be better

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25 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

The Jersey girls pile on the eye makeup so dark.  Not fitting for their age.  The New York wives are made up more natural and more appropriate I think.  More classy.

I think it's mostly the eyelashes....the NJ housewives wear those super thick and long false eyelashes (with eyeliner to hide the lash track) that it makes their eyes look so dark and actually seems to weigh down their eyes.  There were several scenes this season where they weren't all made up, and they look so much younger and fresher (especially Melissa and Delores).

The NY housewives seem to wear more natural looking eyelashes (except at the reunions), so it makes their eyes appear larger and less closed in.  

And, I have to say - even though I think that a lot of them looked a little rough in the opening scenes tonight, the NY housewives to seem to have really good skin - they look younger than their NJ counterparts (who are mostly all younger in age than the NY ladies).

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16 minutes ago, endure said:

Even a nice sheet tacked up would have looked better!

Someone should tell Sonja about those temporary pleated paper shades with the sticky tape...they cost about $6.00 at Lowes or Home Depot, and look a hell of a lot better than a monogrammed towel duct taped on the window.  (I have a neighbor who moved in over two years ago, and they still have those paper shades on their windows.)

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16 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

Barbara is quite the big deal.  I read she is the CEO of a major construction company in the city.

Oh, I get it - it's just that her mannerisms and manner of speaking is more "Jersey-ish" than Real Housewives of NY-ish.  (I'm not saying this in a derogatory way - I'm from NJ, so it's just an opinion.)

And, if she owns a major construction company, maybe she can come and finish Marge's house and Marge's husband, Joe, wouldn't object.    😉

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This is going to be a lonnnnnnnng season!

What happened to the NYC ladies?  They all look so old so!  Even ageless Tinsley. Maybe the camera people forgot to use filters.

Seriously, Tinsley.  Grow the phuk up!  That driving scene was pretty painful. I believe the car is a rental/promo. Not buying this Scott sent car from Chicago. Then the most expensive car, too......you would think there is a lot of parking in NYC. 

Noooooooooo!  Sonja’s old apartment is epic!  Don’t like her new dump. Whenever her ‘Assistant’ brought her breakfast......she literally turned around and was right there at Sonja’s bedroom door. HA! 

Was that shelf next to her bed  with the shoes her....Sonja Shoes....business???

The one with the Family Crest???  Hahahahahahahah!

Ok, I am going to stop here, but I will quickly add. Ramona’s NYC apartment and Hamptons are beautiful. Well done on the remodeling! 

Oh! That 50+ Euro man is supposed to be a very expensive swim teacher for rich UES ladies?  Ummmmmmmm....?  

Getting good vibes from the new HW.  Glad she is B’s friends so we can lessen the.....mean girl initiation routine. Hahha! Just like B....she started pimping her hammer and nails kit, ASAP.

Is Lulu riding a Vespa because they took away her drivers license? 

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6 minutes ago, FozzyBear said:

Thinks She is Sneaky When She’s Obvious as Fuck is one of my favorite delusional Ramonas.

i also love that we’ve all started talking about all our favorite Ramonas, like she’s Cybil. 

Ramona's perfume launch TruRaCybil.

Because everyday, you get to be a new woman.

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Whoever is doing the contouring on Bethenny’s nose during her TH needs to dial it back a lot!

Not that people can’t paint rentals but is Sonja’s place a rental? Has she actually sold or rented her townhouse for more than a few weeks?

If Lu goes to rehab again she should see if she can find one with flower arranging classes because whatever she was doing when Barbara visited was not good.

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I’m enjoying the Ramona chat. Not sure why but I’ve had a soft spot for her ever since I started watching RHONY (the season after Bethenny left).

My favorite Ramonas are Earnest Self-Made Businesswoman Ramona and Getting After Bethenny In Order to Get Into the Scene Ramona.

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36 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

Not that people can’t paint rentals but is Sonja’s place a rental? Has she actually sold or rented her townhouse for more than a few weeks?

The paint job is never gonna happen.  Sonja went to Home Depot and got those free paint sample papers.  She had them taped all over the apartment.  I counted like 20. 

Was the couch on the foyer where the ‘Assistant’ sleeps? It looked like a futon.  Omg!  That wall phone  above it?  

13 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

The look on the housekeepers face when Ramona mispronounced guacamole should have contained an eye roll.

I saw that! How did she pronounce it?

Watching Master Chef and Ramsay just said.....wack-a-mole.

Ramsay knows better! 

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This is already so much better than the BH dog fight - which seems to be dragging on and on. 

It is interesting to see how the friendships from the first episode will shift.  Luann has said she and Bethenny will end up fighting a lot.   And it looks like Luann and Ramona end up on good terms.

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3 hours ago, njbchlover said:

The NY housewives seem to wear more natural looking eyelashes (except at the reunions), so it makes their eyes appear larger and less closed in.  

And, I have to say - even though I think that a lot of them looked a little rough in the opening scenes tonight, the NY housewives to seem to have really good skin - they look younger than their NJ counterparts (who are mostly all younger in age than the NY ladies).

They also (for the most part) dress beautifully. Cashmere sweaters and scarves, designer dresses and jeans, expensive leather boots but always understated and classy. They may add a few hair extensions here and there but don't pile on the awful super long, super thick extensions like NJ and Orange County do. 

Oh, and No, Sonja. Pink walls and black doors, just NO. I am in love with her dog, though. Didn't she have the groomer dye the dogs fur pink last season? 

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2 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

I saw that! How did she pronounce it?

Guac-a-mola, and she pondered whether to serve it or "saltza".

I can't help but love that this show is back, even if this season is starting on a downer (death, alcoholism, tragic window treatments) note.    

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9 hours ago, bosawks said:

At this point I feel like it would almost be a public service to send Sonja some Bed, Bath & Beyond coupons.

And she would absolutely love them.  

Towels and duct tape 😆. Why does sonja need an assistant to bring her toast in bed?

Lu looked good fussing around her backyard. The white Jeans, the hat, the hair the vespa. She looked so natural. 

You couldn't pay me any amount of money to ride in a car driven by Tinsley. Why why why is Tinsley driving? 

Eta: I alway thought it was duck tape , made no sense but that's what I thought lol.

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My favorite Ramona is The RaNoodle.  If you hit 'mute' in that swimming scene so you can't hear the sexual harassment, she was child-like and adorable.

Ditto on the understated (mostly) elegant style choices relative to other franchises. This is part of why I like NYC the best.  Less makeup, lashes, extensions.  And with the exception of Dorinda's hideous pink Gucci sweater, less label-whoring.

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I'm so happy NY is back!!  They had me laughing the first episode.  I agree with the posters who said Ramona makes them laugh.  I love her.  She cracks me up!

I LOVED Bethenny's look at the lunch at her house with Luanne and Barbara.  The hat, the side braid, the outfit.  Loved it all.

I liked Ramona's blouse also.  The one she was wearing at her Hampton's house when Dorinda arrived.

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9 hours ago, ghoulina said:

Here's the thing with Dorinda and Lu - they both have drinking issues and are trying to navigate that. I think they trigger each other. And there's really no point in trying to make up until they're really really healthy. 

I just don't want a whole season of them fighting. We did that last year with Bethenny and Carole (whom I do not miss at all, by the by). It gets tiresome. 

I'd much rather watch Sonja waiting on her assistant to make her peanut butter toast and duct tape towels to the windows. 

Of course Ramona is harassing the swim instructor. 

Of course Tinsley has a sister named Dabney. 

And she has an ex husband named Topper.

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Barbara sounds exactly like Dolores Catania.

God bless Sonja. I used to have a shoe rack like that but got rid of it because the shoes kept slipping off. I hope she cuddles Marley more this season and doesn’t toss him around like an accessory. I wonder if she will ever say her daughter’s name on camera?

Beth and Lu have gotten even more comfortable and jokey with each other. I won’t like when they start attacking each other. 

Carole was in like three flashbacks; I kept expecting her scenes. Funny that I did feel her absence!

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Ramona you make me crazy.  But that woman has figured out how to have a story line when she doesn’t have a story.  The swimming lesson was cringe worthy and I couldn’t look away. On a shallow note I really like that black one piece swimsuit and need to own it.

Sonja how have you managed to make a new built condo look like Grey Gardens in 1 month?  please do paint the walls pink and the doors black.  Did she say that was her daughter’s idea?  Does her daughter hate her?  This season Sonja’s TH are remarkably coherent.

Tinsley please stay off the roads.  It’s not cute.

Bethenny starts taping less than a month after Dennis’s death?  Yes what could possibly go wrong.  On a shallow note I too covet her jumpsuit, straw fedora, matching blue sunglasses.

Food porn was decent.  I too often have items catered in but damn comparing Ramona’s spread to Bethenny’s fresh and fabulous luncheon was kinda cruel.  To everyone following along at home the patio at Bethenny’s Hampton place was expanded to include dining table and a complete outdoor kitchen.  The insta looked really fabulous so I hope we get more of it.

I shall wait and see what the previews are all about.  I do not trust the edit monkeys.  Every year there is misdirection so for now I only accept that Lu and Dor are in a bad place.

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1 hour ago, Duke2801 said:

I’d let Toonces the cat drive me before I’d get in a car with Tinsley behind the wheel. Speaking of her, she really does look so much better with the shorter straight hair. 

Bwah!  Toonces, one of the best SNL skits around! 

Even though Bethenny isn't one of my favorite HWs, I do admire her for being one of the few people who stepped up and held an intervention for LuAnn after she relapsed.  Bethenny drives me nuts with her 'me, me, me' attitude, but in this instance, I'll say kadooz to her for being a true friend and helping LuAnn rather than being a bystander to the oncoming train wreck.  

Tinsley seems to get along with everybody.  I don't mind that she's a little goofy.  Her joy and positive energy is a nice change from some of the other heavy topics we're seeing on this show.  

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8 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

Yep! Old Hot Mic Babs. And her excuse of not being aware that Carole had a mic pack on was bullshit.

https://pagesix.com/2017/05/17/lawsuit-cant-stop-rhony-dramatics-from-airing/

Yes, that was on Barbara but the second time it happened Carole called her, they spoke for half an hour and then they hung up, Carole immediately called her back to tell her that Carole had recorded the entire phone conversation. I mean who does that? That is some creepy shit right there. 

Then in late January the two talked again over the phone for a half hour, according to court papers.

As soon as Kavovit hung up, Radziwill called her back and told her that both conversations had been recorded, the suit says.

https://pagesix.com/2017/05/17/carole-radziwill-accused-of-recording-private-conversation/

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This season looks amazing, RHONY is hands down better than all the other franchises combined. 

Sonja looks amazing! She had brown ice, has no curtains but always manages to scrape together money for a weekly facial.

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9 hours ago, endure said:

Even a nice sheet tacked up would have looked better!

Sonja’s got duct tape on her windows, and an assistant serving her breakfast in her luxurious bed with all the frills.  Haha.. she’s one of a kind.  Nothing fazes her, lol.  Love her.

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5 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

They also (for the most part) dress beautifully. Cashmere sweaters and scarves, designer dresses and jeans, expensive leather boots but always understated and classy. They may add a few hair extensions here and there but don't pile on the awful super long, super thick extensions like NJ and Orange County do. 

Oh, and No, Sonja. Pink walls and black doors, just NO. I am in love with her dog, though. Didn't she have the groomer dye the dogs fur pink last season? 

So basically a Victoria’s Secret?  Oh, Sonja....

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Thank god for these broads.

Between Dennis dying, Luanne being sued by her own children and going back to rehab after an intervention, and Dorinda coming off of that slurring embarrassment of a season last year, I'm not surprised this was a kind of bummer of an opening. I have faith we'll see it turn around quickly though. This is the one cast that always manages to move on, thankfully. 

Did not miss Carole. 

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Sonja better start talking about an idea for a product line of designer duct tape at some point this season.

Ducjt Tapje by Sonja for all your home design needs, just because it's practical doesn't mean it can't be fashionable.......

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