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7 hours ago, littlewonder said:

It Follows is one of the best horror movies I've seen in years.  Not super scary but... unsettling.

Agreed. The big climax scene doesn't quite work for me (but then I feel that way about a lot of horror movies) but everything up to that is just immensely creepy and like you say, unsettling. It's the slow inevitability of the 'it' that creeps me out - it doesn't need to run after you, it's gonna catch up with you eventually anyway. It's patient.

Which reminds me - I looked back and saw I hadn't mentioned one of my other favourites that I saw relatively recently: Shutter. The original Thai version from 2004, not the American remake with Joshua Jackson. That was one of the very few horror movies where the ending doesn't let the movie down or take away from it for me. Really, really good. It does use the "crawling ghost with hair covering its face" trope, but hey, it became a trope for a reason - it's creepy.

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Tonight I shall be watching "Ringu" (The Ring) again (this is the original Japanese version), followed by another Japanese horror classic "Audition"

Have seen them both before, and really enjoyed them. No ultra-violence here quite so much, but there's still a few disturbing scenes that play on the mind.

Might have to unplug all of my TVs and turn them around after watching Ringu, lol

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2 minutes ago, Only Zola said:

Tonight I shall be watching "Ringu" (The Ring) again (this is the original Japanese version), followed by another Japanese horror classic "Audition"

Have seen them both before, and really enjoyed them. No ultra-violence here quite so much, but there's still a few disturbing scenes that play on the mind.

Might have to unplug all of my TVs and turn them around after watching Ringu, lol

If Audition is the one I think it is, I've actually never dared to watch it, heh! Is it the one where there's a -- bag on the floor?

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4 minutes ago, Schweedie said:

If Audition is the one I think it is, I've actually never dared to watch it, heh! Is it the one where there's a -- bag on the floor?

Yes, that's the one! Plenty of needles and piano wire as well

It's a bit of a slow burner of a film, but by the final hour it really gets into gear and grips you by the throat and won't let go!

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I absolutely adore horror movies. Nightmare on Elm Street is my favorite franchise. The original Texas Chainsaw Massacre is a masterpiece. As are the first two Hellraiser films. I didn't really like the first Sleepaway Camp, but part 2 is one hell of a hilarious ride and Pamela Springsteen is so adorable, you can't help but not like Angela just a little. I also cannot recommend Southbound enough. Find that movie, and watch it. Other must watch horror include-- Dead Alive, The Mist, Return of the Living Dead, Maximum Overdrive, The People Under the Stairs, Creepshow, An American Werewolf in London, May, Pet Sematary, Motel Hell, The Hitcher, Warlock, Poltergeist 2 is way better than 1 in my opinion, and 99.9 percent of it is because of Julian Beck. Carrie, and by far the scariest thing I have ever seen by far forever and lots.... Jesus Camp.  

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On ‎7‎/‎31‎/‎2017 at 2:07 AM, Zola said:

I watched "Alien" last night: still my favourite of the franchise purely because it was done on a low budget, an unknown director (Ridley Scott), and an unknown actress at the time, in Sigourney Weaver, standing up for herself and kicking some xenomorph's arse!

Many stand-out scenes (in particular the interior of the crash-landed alien ship, and the Space Jockey, were both beautifully rendered and incredibly eerie). But of course the creme de la creme, is always going to be the Chestbuster scene with John "Kane" Hurt!

You look at it today and it looks a little hokey purely because it's not CGI and therefore loses a little on shock value; but when I saw Alien first time round in 2010, and that particular scene, it scared the hell out of me (I think I was grabbing at my tummy at the time!)

A great film!

I study everyone's face in that scene, because legend has it that the actors were kept in the dark about little chestbuster.

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On ‎7‎/‎13‎/‎2017 at 11:25 AM, Zola said:

I am not a big fan of horror films, especially those that go overboard on the blood, guts and violence (usually against women). So mainstream films like The Descent, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Hostel, Halloween, Friday 13th, Wrong Turn etc. I just tend to avoid.

That said, I have quite enjoyed The Thing (1982),  Saw (but not the awful sequels), Evil Dead 2,  Dawn of the Dead (1978). For the most part because these films either have a decent story, or the gore is so completely OTT that it comes across as campy rather than down right scary. 

However, I prefer my horror to be more psychological rather than visual - films like  The Shining, The Exorcist, The Others, The Haunting (1963), Repulsion, The Sixth Sense, Psycho, Ringu, Les Diabolique, Silence of the Lambs and Don't Look Now - will always get my vote, and make for great creepy TV late at night just before bedtime.

That's too bad about The Descent.  It's a great all-female cast.  The characters are intelligent, experienced cavers who put up a hell of a fight, and not a screaming bimbo in the bunch.  The film is actually a tense thriller, IMO, before the first monster even attacks.  The isolation and claustrophobic tone really work for me.  Also rare for horror - no female nudity.

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9 hours ago, RedheadZombie said:

That's too bad about The Descent.  It's a great all-female cast.  The characters are intelligent, experienced cavers who put up a hell of a fight, and not a screaming bimbo in the bunch.  The film is actually a tense thriller, IMO, before the first monster even attacks.  The isolation and claustrophobic tone really work for me.  Also rare for horror - no female nudity.

Thanks for the info on "The Descent". I've seen photos and trailers from the film and just assumed it was going to be another "slice 'n' dice" with women getting chopped up again. But with your more positive slant I might just give it a try. Thanks

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10 hours ago, RedheadZombie said:

I study everyone's face in that scene, because legend has it that the actors were kept in the dark about little chestbuster.

Yes, I read that too. New director, Ridley Scott, wanted to get some genuine scares from the cast, and so there were no rehearsals. And none of the cast other than John Hurt knew what was going to happen next.

 

The end result was perfectly executed!

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On 12/10/2017 at 6:43 AM, Zola said:

Thanks for the info on "The Descent". I've seen photos and trailers from the film and just assumed it was going to be another "slice 'n' dice" with women getting chopped up again. But with your more positive slant I might just give it a try. Thanks

The Descent is a fantastic movie, but if you watch it, make sure you get the original cut, not the Americanized version that changes the ending (for the worst, in my opinion).

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On 8/4/2017 at 4:05 AM, Zola said:

Tonight I shall be watching "Ringu" (The Ring) again (this is the original Japanese version), followed by another Japanese horror classic "Audition"

Have seen them both before, and really enjoyed them. No ultra-violence here quite so much, but there's still a few disturbing scenes that play on the mind.

Might have to unplug all of my TVs and turn them around after watching Ringu, lol

The first time I watch The Ring (the remake), when it ended the phone rang and scared the crap out of me!

I do prefer Ringu though. I also really liked Ringu 0. The story is weird, but I think the "pay-off" scene at the end is creepier than in Ringu and has actually stuck with me longer.

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7 hours ago, WritinMan said:

The first time I watch The Ring (the remake), when it ended the phone rang and scared the crap out of me!

Similar thing happened with my sister. She saw the movie while at a friend's sleepover, and right after a scene in the movie where one of the characters watched the film that led to the phone call, her friend's phone rang. She said everyone screamed and popcorn flew everywhere :p.

I'm just glad that movie didn't come out back when my grandma was alive-she had a well in her backyard, and I know I would've been side-eyeing the hell out of that thing every time I visited as a result :D. 

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On 12/9/2017 at 8:46 PM, RedheadZombie said:

That's too bad about The Descent.  It's a great all-female cast.  The characters are intelligent, experienced cavers who put up a hell of a fight, and not a screaming bimbo in the bunch.  The film is actually a tense thriller, IMO, before the first monster even attacks.  The isolation and claustrophobic tone really work for me.  Also rare for horror - no female nudity.

Yeah, I was scared enough at the thought of being trapped in an unknown cave system even without the monsters.

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On 10/12/2017 at 1:46 AM, RedheadZombie said:

That's too bad about The Descent.  It's a great all-female cast.  The characters are intelligent, experienced cavers who put up a hell of a fight, and not a screaming bimbo in the bunch.  The film is actually a tense thriller, IMO, before the first monster even attacks.  The isolation and claustrophobic tone really work for me.  Also rare for horror - no female nudity.

I still haven't got round to watching this. i guess I have a problem with women ending up as monster munch regardless of the intelligence of the script. 

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I am a big horror movie fan. There aren't many that I haven't seen. My daughter and I both came down with the flu 2 weeks ago and we've spent he last couple of weeks in bed, watching one bad horror after another. On my FB page I've been doing little "recaps" (not really any spoilers) as part of the "Fluwatch." Thought you all might appreciate some of them. Here is our latest, Netflix's "The Open House."

 

Fluwatch 2018 Horror Movie #8: THE OPEN HOUSE?

Have you ever watched a movie that was so bad, that made you so mad, that you had to watch it a second time with someone else, just for the sake of validation?

Welcome to Netflix’s THE OPEN HOUSE.

THE OPEN HOUSE is about a mother/son duo who move to the northwest to regroup after the death of the patriarch. They live in a family member’s big, old isolated house (which also happens to be on the market) and horror hijinks ensue.

So here’s the deal…it’s not a *bad* movie. The acting is perfectly fine. The setting? It works. The basic storyline? Well, you’ve seen it before but there’s no need to reinvent the wheel in horror-it just needs to entertain. And, for the most part, THE OPEN HOUSE entertains.

I’ll admit, I jumped a few times. I got creeped out. I got into it. 
Therein lies the problem.

I got soooo into it that when there was no payoff, it absolutely pissed me off. I was invested, dammit. And…nothing.

You know how when you’re watching a movie and there’s a bunch of clues sprinkled throughout the film, somewhere near the end you can count on those clues coming together and bringing clarity to a bigger picture? Yeah. That doesn’t happen in this movie. All the red herrings, the clues, the little things that don’t really mean anything at the time but you’re certain that’s because they’ll have a bigger meaning at the end? They don’t. 
It isn’t even an ambiguous ending that we’re looking at here-it’s a complete failure to form a cohesive climax or resolution that is satisfying in any way.

Along the way, I wasted my time “guessing” at what *might* be going on in the film, figuring that there would be some kind of twist or revelation. There wasn’t. Turns out, the film in my head was much better than the one on the screen-more creative and more sensical.

?# of screams: 2/10 
?# of horror clichés: There’s something scary in the basement! I think I’ll wrap this towel around my naked body and go check it out! (Yeah, it’s that kind of film.) 
?# of characters I, personally, wanted to kill at some point: All of them. Twice. 
?# of times Sam and I screamed at the characters on the screen: Let’s just sat that I stopped counting AND ran out of expletives. 
?Time spent reading Reddit and horror movie blogs in an attempt to figure out what I had just watched: a solid hour because I really needed folks to commiserate with me.

(And just to prove that I occasionally find one I like...)

 

Fluwatch 2018 Horror Movie #6: WE ARE WHAT WE ARE

I was all set to settle back in with my kids and turn up the snark on this one. Man, did I misjudge the American Gothic Zombie poster...

If you're expecting a lot of ridicule in this review then you're going to be disappointed. It was really very good! Now, it's not going to be for everyone. My daughter thought it was about as exciting as watching paint dry but my son and I really dug it. It's a slow burn with a lot of symbolism going on but if you stick with it, it has a great payoff.

If you've ever read WE HAVE ALWAYS LIVED IN THE CASTLE (and you should) or you're into Gothic horror then you'll recognize the signs right away: weird family with weirder daughters who live apart from the rest of the "village" and do weird things. This family dresses and acts like they're from another century, and the Appalachian Mountain setting makes the film feel both timeless and charming.

You know something's off right from the start because the mother is dead and the rest of the family keeps referencing their "differences." You aren't quite sure what sets them apart from the rest of the world until the very end.

You know how the Shirley Jackson story THE LOTTERY isn't *really* about a lottery but is about how we continue to practice traditions even when they are no longer relevant and we don't even know how they started to begin with? This movie has a similar message, only it's more about heritage and even religion. The main storyline is configured around this family with a long and tortured past and how they continue to celebrate a type of tradition that's really no longer relevant (though to stop celebrating it would be like condemning their ancestors).

Lots of good stuff here. I mean it.

If you're looking for blood and gore and zombies and jump scares then you're not going to find it here. (Well, you'll kind of get some gore at the end, but it's not gratuitous.) If you're looking for a slow-burn horror that really makes you *think*, then you're in for a treat.

Like I said, it's not for everyone. It's by the same guy who did STAKE LAND and that film had a similar "old timey", depressing feel that I dug. If it wasn't your cup of tea, then this one may not be either. If you enjoyed STAKE LAND, though, then give this one a shot.

Ignore the poster. I mean it.

And don't read anything about it, including the summary. Go into this blindly.

And, again, if you haven't read WE HAVE ALWAYS LIVED IN THE CASTLE, you should-if for no other reason then you'll be prepared when Netflix releases it as a film this year.

# of screams: 8/10
# of horror clichés:none
# of characters I, personally, wanted to kill at some point: The patriarch kind of has it coming. 
# of times Sam and I screamed at the characters on the screen: Once, but it was more for effect. 
Time spent reading Reddit and horror movie blogs in an attempt to figure out what I had just watched: An hour before I watched it because I wanted to get spoiled. It's how I roll.

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Hey mamadrama, sorry to hear about the flu hitting. :(

If you need yet another person to commiserate about The Open House, I'm your woman!  What a terrible movie this was.  Agreed, the setup and early creepy scenes were promising, and it just devolves into nothing...absolutely nothing.  If they were trying to go for the "this is scary because the evil person has no discernible motive" trope, they failed miserably.  

If any of you fellow posters are big horror fans like me and haven't seen it...STAY AWAY!  You'll be so disappointed. 

 

And thanks for the We Are What We Are review.  I've stayed away from it because of that poster, but good to hear there's a lot more to it. 

In general, my top favorites of all time are The (original) Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Ring, and Hellraiser.  Oh, and all but the last 5 minutes of Sinister. :)  

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Looking through library microfilm to learn the spooky history of something is such a great trope:

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Once I was doing some personal research on a former mortuary and I got to spend quality time looking at the original building plans via microfiche. It did feel like being in a movie and I look forward to coming up with another reason to dig into old media. Maybe I need to make a scrapbook filled with copies of morbid news clippings...

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I’m a fan of horror movies because they are creepy, mysterious and thoughtful. 
Top 3 from me, all of them released in 2018!  

1. A Quiet Place (2018)
A family is forced to live in silence while hiding from creatures that hunt by sound. more
Totally enjoyed this one and I pray they make a sequel!

2. The Meg (2018)
After escaping an attack by what he claims was a 70-foot shark, Jonas Taylor must confront his fears to save those trapped in a sunken submersible. more
It is a good movie and the end is awesome. Worth the watch! 

3. Halloween (2018)
Laurie Strode confronts her long-time foe Michael Myers, the masked figure who has haunted her since she narrowly escaped his killing spree on Halloween night four decades ago. more
Shlash. Run. Scream. Loved it. Jamie Lee Curtis is a complete badass!

Feel free to post your TOP3 Horror movies.

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I was surprised by how much I enjoyed Shudder's Host. The premise sounds kind of gimmicky and goofy ("Six friends hire a medium to hold a seance via Zoom during lockdown, but they get far more than they bargained for as things quickly go wrong."), but I thought it was really well-executed especially given the constraints of lockdown.

I really want to watch some of the classics that have been on my list like Roger Corman's Poe adaptations with Vincent Price and the Hammer Films with Peter Cushing/Christopher Lee, but am also looking forward to some newer titles like Synchronic. I don't think I've seen much discussion about The Craft sequel/remake/whatever it is and I'm not excited about it myself, but am mildly curious and at least it has David Duchovny(!) and Michelle Monaghan. 

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I guess this is as good as any place to ask, but I remember watching a midnight showing of what I think was Hammer Film about the son of a woman raped by Dracula,  or maybe he bit her and turned the baby into a vampire. There was this one scene I remember in which she had to slice her nipple to get him to breastfeed.  I want to say the title was "Son of Dracula", but that's not it. 

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On 10/12/2020 at 8:56 PM, Ubiquit0us said:

I guess this is as good as any place to ask, but I remember watching a midnight showing of what I think was Hammer Film about the son of a woman raped by Dracula,  or maybe he bit her and turned the baby into a vampire. There was this one scene I remember in which she had to slice her nipple to get him to breastfeed.

The closest thing I can think of is the Hammer film The Curse of the Werewolf where the werewolf is the son of a woman who was raped by a crazed prisoner but IIRC the mother dies during the birth. But that's probably not what you're remembering, sorry.

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On 10/14/2020 at 7:21 AM, krankydoodle said:

The closest thing I can think of is the Hammer film The Curse of the Werewolf where the werewolf is the son of a woman who was raped by a crazed prisoner but IIRC the mother dies during the birth. But that's probably not what you're remembering, sorry.

I found it!

 

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On 2/13/2019 at 11:42 AM, mikerolland said:

3. Halloween (2018)
Laurie Strode confronts her long-time foe Michael Myers, the masked figure who has haunted her since she narrowly escaped his killing spree on Halloween night four decades ago. more
Shlash. Run. Scream. Loved it. Jamie Lee Curtis is a complete badass!

I've been introducing my teenagers to classic horror films for Halloween. Last year they watched The Shining with me and loved it. 

I was thinking of one of the classic slashers for this year. In your opinions, which first movie is better (we probably won't watch the whole series): Halloween, Friday the 13th, or Nightmare on Elm Street?  Or maybe The Conjuring? I've never seen any of these, BTW.

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4 hours ago, topanga said:

In your opinions, which first movie is better (we probably won't watch the whole series): Halloween, Friday the 13th, or Nightmare on Elm Street?  Or maybe The Conjuring? I've never seen any of these, BTW.

Halloween.  It's quite dated, yet timeless.  And that music!  (I've never seen The Conjuring, but I like the other two.  But if I could only pick one of those three, it would be Halloween.)

The sequels to Friday the 13th are ridiculous generic slasher films, and on paper so is the original, but I like the film for having a very different killer than most of the genre, and the cast of young NY theatre actors making poorly-developed characters feel like real people, so that you actually care when they get butchered.  But my second choice would be A Nightmare on Elm Street.  There's a refreshing lack of female nudity.

 

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I watched Train to Busan for the first time last night.  The zombie stuff was fun, although it wasn't anything that reinvented the wheel.  What I was not prepared for, however, was how effing emotional the ending would make me. I haven't stopped thinking about the last 60 or so seconds all day.  That's the sign of something that rises above its peers.  It's free on Amazon Prime if anyone's interested.

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3 hours ago, Bastet said:

Halloween.  It's quite dated, yet timeless.  And that music!  (I've never seen The Conjuring, but I like the other two.  But if I could only pick one of those three, it would be Halloween.)

I'll co-sign this pick. So simple in its creepiness. 

(At another site I frequent, someone had recently watched that movie for the first time and they were surprised at how little gore it had and how it wasn't nearly as "slasher-y" as other horror movies :p. I said that that's one of the big reasons I like it!!)

This past week BBC America showed The Exorcist and last night Ovation showed the original Night of the Living Dead. Two more classics. Night of the Living Dead especially gives me the willies. Zombies are so creepy to me. 

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On 10/30/2020 at 11:07 AM, topanga said:

Or maybe The Conjuring?

My sister and I went to see The Conjuring in the theater, it wasn't something we particularly wanted to see. We just wanted to see a movie while I was visiting. There were only four other people in the theater. When it was over one of the guys stood up and looked at us with a big smile and said "That was actually good!" That was many years ago, so I don't really remember the movie, but I do remember I thought it was well done and creepy.

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Whatever slasher film is chosen, I'll be curious to hear how the kids react.  I sometimes wonder how I'd receive Halloween if I was watching it after years of consuming the genre, as compared to how I reacted when it was one of the first of its kind (and the first I'd seen other than if you want to count Psycho; I didn't watch Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Black Christmas until much later).

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Yeah, I wonder about that sort of thing sometimes, too. In my case, Halloween came out a number of years before I was born, and I didn't see it until I was a teenager in the early 2000s, and by then I'd already seen movies like Scream and I Know What You Did Last Summer. Yet it still scared me pretty good (course, I was already in prime freak out mode given my family had gone on a haunted hayride earlier that night that was pretty spooky, which probably helped. Plus, I just tend to scare easy in general :p). But compared to a lot of other slasher films, it's a much slower and more tame horror movie in many ways, so yeah, I can see where it might not connect as easily with some younger people. 

I saw Psycho and Texas Chainsaw Massacre a number of years after I saw Halloween. Psycho was interesting in that I knew all about the infamous shower scene for years leading up to my finally seeing the movie, 'cause it's been referenced and talked about so much and everything. Yet when the bathroom door opened and the shadow appeared in the doorway, my stomach still dropped anyway. Seeing that scene in its proper context really brought home the horror of it all. 

As for Texas Chainsaw Massacre, I've only seen that one once, and I recall finding it pretty scary, but mainly, I just remember feeling like I really needed to take a shower after watching it. 

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On 11/1/2020 at 3:44 PM, Bastet said:

Whatever slasher film is chosen, I'll be curious to hear how the kids react.  

Isn't there a YouTube series about that? Well, maybe not classic horror movies specifically, but about other old things from before their time...

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On 11/1/2020 at 3:44 PM, Bastet said:

Whatever slasher film is chosen, I'll be curious to hear how the kids react.  I sometimes wonder how I'd receive Halloween if I was watching it after years of consuming the genre, as compared to how I reacted when it was one of the first of its kind (and the first I'd seen other than if you want to count Psycho; I didn't watch Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Black Christmas until much later).

Comet TV has been playing Black Christmas this month. Unfortunately, it was edited for naughty stuff, so it doesn't make sense in parts. Fortunately. TCM Underground played it uncut, AFAIK, and it was much more effective a horror movie.

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