S23.E04: Week 4 - Singapore

[Mabinogia]

I would hate the shopping date. It just seems sooo boring to me, and I would not have any interest in a guy who thinks that's a great date. Not that he does, he's only there because Production made him be.

[saber5055]

1 minute ago, tennisgurl said:

Their whole date is shopping? I mean....ok....

I'd rather bungee jump and eat an eyeball than "shop." Kind of creepy that Colton is "into" shopping. Or is it?

[Ms Blue Jay]

Love the pink dress!

Oh my god.  The shopping.  I'm so jealous.

LOL!!!!!!!  Guess I'm in the minority!  That's an absolute dream for me!

Edited January 29, 2019 by Ms Blue Jay

[tennisgurl]

I mean, you did sign up for Bachelor, you knew he was gonna be dating multiple people. This cant be that shocking...

[Mabinogia]

The only thing worse than a shopping date would be the dancing alone to some poor schmuck who is trying to become the next big thing but will probably just be a one hit wonder if they are lucky. 

I'm glad she doesn't need material things but is thrilled to flaunt all the material things "he" bought her. lol 

[heat]

Ugh, Courtney, don’t make me think DEMI is being reasonable! Get off your ass and talk to him! Gah! 

[saber5055]

1 minute ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Love the pink dress!

All I could think of was what a filthy mess those pink feathers dragging on the ground would be after just walking to the car. Okay, walking to the limo. But you know what I mean. What's the cleaning bill on pink feathers?

[Mabinogia]

Just now, tennisgurl said:

I mean, you did sign up for Bachelor, you knew he was gonna be dating multiple people. This cant be that shocking...

Seriously. It always amazes me how many of them are shocked that he is interested in other women when he's got a bunch of equally hot (since they all look the same) women to choose from. Do these women really go on here thinking the's going to see no one but them? There are some very healthy, totally unwarrented, egos on this show. 

[nutty1]

If I had a body like hers, I’d love that shopping date too!

[saber5055]

Oh, great, another "big reveal, hard to talk about" conversation. I'd love it if just once the Bach would say, "Let me walk you out" when a b-ette reveals she's divorced/has a jail-bird mom/etc.

[Mu Shu]

Now I’m sort of liking Hannah big tooth.  She’s awkward and sort of maniacal. 

[tennisgurl]

So, this just got dark. 

[saber5055]

Didn't Colton date Aly Raisman who was molested by Larry Nassar?

ETA: Oh, now he's talking about it but w/o a name.

Edited January 29, 2019 by saber5055

[Mabinogia]

Poor Colton has no clue what to say, nor should be, that's quite a reveal for fairly early in a relationship. 

[Ms Blue Jay]

18 minutes ago, tennisgurl said:

So, this just got dark. 

This is like as dark as I can imagine things getting.  Blake had another super dark story.

The weather is so bad in Toronto that my cable keeps going in and out too.  I'd like to hear what she says.  It's horrifying.

The last time I felt like this watching TV was an episode of Survivor that aired in the past 3 years or so.  If people have seen it they know what I mean.  

Man this is so crazy and real!  I feel kind of sick.  My stomach starts to twist up when I really feel something like this.

Edited January 29, 2019 by Ms Blue Jay

[Mabinogia]

now I remember why I hate this show. God this is boring. I know it's all deep and important and whatever, but it is forking boring watching two people stumble over a converstation that should be had in private. 

[DEL901]

At least they didn’t reference Pretty Woman on the shopping date. 

Edited January 29, 2019 by DEL901

[Dr Epi]

I feel like Colton just gave away his secret and someone else’s too. I feel sorry for the someone else. I hope she was warned and prepared.

[TomGirl]

Hannah B’s fakety fake pageant smile makes her look downright scary.  Somewhere between demented and maniacal.

[saber5055]

2 minutes ago, DEL901 said:

At least they didn’t reference Pretty Woman. 

Yes, but I was thinking it.

3 minutes ago, Mabinogia said:

I know it's all deep and important and whatever, but it is forking boring watching two people stumble over a converstation that should be had in private. 

No kidding. What possesses these people to reveal their deepest darkest on national television? Is it the SM thing, I have to tell everyone about everything about me (whether they want to know it or not)?

[nutty1]

1 minute ago, Dr Epi said:

I feel like Colton just gave away his secret and someone else’s too. I feel sorry for the someone else. I hope she was warned and prepared.

Wasn’t it the gymnast Ali Raisman?

[JenE4]

Wow. I think that was the longest “real talk” in Bachelor History. Usually I chuckle at the “sob stories,” but that was some heavy stuff!

Those lights and buildings were pretty cool at the end of that scene, so now we know why Colton was gushing about Singapore’s lights and buildings!

[Adeejay]

I give any one of these ladies leave to deck Demi.

I forgot that Hannah G. received the first impression rose.  I think she is adorable.  

Edited January 29, 2019 by Adeejay

[saber5055]

6 minutes ago, JenE4 said:

so now we know why Colton was gushing about Singapore’s lights and buildings!

Because he's easily distracted by shiny things?

Edited January 29, 2019 by saber5055

[dizzyd]

I've lost count of the number of times I've had to flip channels this episode.

[Ms Blue Jay]

Other Hannah wow!  LOL!  Yikes.  Felt like I was intruding

[Mu Shu]

Hannah big tooth walks like she’s carrying suitcases.  

[JenE4]

Oh, Caelynn and Hannah hugged it out and now Hannah doesn’t have to be left alone to die on an iceberg on a 2:1, so I guess Colton can send her home now.

[Adeejay]

Caelyn is to be commended for taking the high road and apologizing to Hannah B.  However, it should have been the other way around.  

[saber5055]

One of the b-ettes is complaining to Colton about another b-ette, even though it's "killing her" to talk about it. I just wish Colton would tell the tattler to just stow it and stop it or even better, get out. "Can I walk you out?" would be the perfect response.

WTH is with all these women dumping on Colton. Don't they know anything about men? Or this franchise? Man, I'd send them all home, bunch of whingers.

[Mabinogia]

Just now, saber5055 said:

WTH is with all these women dumping on Colton. Don't they know anything about men? Or this franchise? Man, I'd send them all home, bunch of whingers.

I'm pretty sure this is the moment Colton is thinking to himself "why the hell did I sign up for this shit?"

[tennisgurl]

So many of these girls are so damn petty, I cant believe Colton wont just ditch almost all of them. Demi and Courtney are basically pointing at each other and yelling "you started it!" "no, you started it!" I mean, no matter how hot she is, do you really want to deal with that your entire life, Colton? Or at least until the reunion episode?

[saber5055]

Oh! Time for the Rose Ceremony! Any takers on my bet that both Demi and Courtney will get roses? Wait: Demi already has one for her prison mom. Courtney will be the last rose.

[Mu Shu]

Well poor 85 year old bunion encrusted Tracey is probably relieved the baby barracuda has a new target. 

[CraftyHazel]

If I had to listen to two women whining and bitching about each other, I’d show them both the door.

[adhoc]

First time I've tuned in this season, and that was only to catch the DRAMATIC Caelynn/Colton revelations that Reality Steve said Chris Harrison has been going on about for the last couple of weeks.  Caelynn's experience sounded indeed traumatic. But I though per Chris Harrison, we would see some revelations from Colton that would likely make us see him in a new, more sympathetic light. Well maybe they left some of that footage on the editing room floor, because this was really anti-climactic. I expected him to reveal some similar traumatic event. The most we get from him is a tepid " So you see... my reasons for being a virgin are...complicated."  Wow, alert the media. 

Saber5055 said 

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What possesses these people to reveal their deepest darkest on national television? 

Well, they have to have a story if they are going to be the next bachelorette.  Caelynn can be the bachelorette who is finally ready to look for love after suffering a traumatic sexual assault.

Edited January 29, 2019 by adhoc

[JD5166]

I only see true chemistry with Cassie, the way he kisses her...and maybe he told her how much he likes her which is why she’s so upset when he’s On other dates. 

I don’t need a date rape story when it probably happened to almost every girl I knew in my 20’s. Luckily we are all old enough there were no cell phones....and I decided not to talk about it ON TV in order to win some weird competition with some random dude. She doesn’t seem traumatized to me....he definitely does. 

[tennisgurl]

Isn't validation why everyone gets involved with this franchise? ;) 

[Dejana]

27 minutes ago, saber5055 said:

Yes, but I was thinking it.

No kidding. What possesses these people to reveal their deepest darkest on national television? Is it the SM thing, I have to tell everyone about everything about me (whether they want to know it or not)?

Wasn't rape/sexual assault her pageant platform? So it wouldn't be something she's never talked about before or that wouldn't be known about her by Googling. They're on this show, so they can't just look each other up like you normally would.

 

Colton doesn't necessarily seem like the type, but some men absolutely love having women fighting over them and find it incredibly amusing.

Edited January 29, 2019 by Dejana

[tennisgurl]

Smugness, they name is Demi. She looks like a full on supervillain right now. 

[Adeejay]

What's with the talking heads during the rose ceremony.  I had no idea there were an Anika and Katie.  

[EllenB]

8 minutes ago, saber5055 said:

Oh! Time for the Rose Ceremony! Any takers on my bet that both Demi and Courtney will get roses? Wait: Demi already has one for her prison mom. Courtney will be the last rose.

I was hoping this would be the most! dramatic! rose ceremony! ever! and Colton would take Dumi's rose away from her and give it to Courtney.  And I don't even like Courtney.

[saber5055]

This season is barely holding my attention.

1 minute ago, EllenB said:

I was hoping this would be the most! dramatic! rose ceremony! ever! and Colton would take Dumi's rose away from her and give it to Courtney.  And I don't even like Courtney.

Now THAT would have held my attention and made me wanting to tune in next week.

[Adeejay]

If one of my sons brought home a woman whose mother is an ex-con, it wouldn't go down very well, to say the least

[Mu Shu]

Who is Shirpa? And Katie?

i didn’t mind Courtney.  the brat annoys yet again.

i missed the Caylenne reveal.  Something about skirts and photos. 

Onenka is in the friend zone, but seems cool with it.  She’s really pretty when she smiles.

[fireice13]

10 minutes ago, JD5166 said:

I don’t need a date rape story when it probably happened to almost every girl I knew in my 20’s. Luckily we are all old enough there were no cell phones....and I decided not to talk about it ON TV in order to win some weird competition with some random dude. She doesn’t seem traumatized to me....he definitely does. 

I'm sorry that so many people you knew were assaulted; that should not be something common or 'normal' for women to go through. Caelynn made the issue with campus sexual assault her pageant platform so she's taking what happened to her and trying to change things. I don't think she brought it up to win the competition. I also don't think we should be determining whether or not sexual assault survivors are traumatized, we should believe them if they say they are or were traumatized by the experience. Just because they aren't acting the way you think they should be doesn't mean they aren't traumatized.

[timesywimesy]

4 minutes ago, Mu Shu said:

Onenka is in the friend zone, but seems cool with it.  She’s really pretty when she smiles.

Girl needs a brow intervention. 

[shouldbedancing]

The montage at the end was funny. "I eat lots of weird things when I travel. I love eating. Wait... I don't feel so good. -barf-"

[Ms Blue Jay]

16 minutes ago, fireice13 said:

I'm sorry that so many people you knew were assaulted; that should not be something common or 'normal' for women to go through. 

Honestly, it is though.  If you search the #metoo hashtag on Twitter, it's overwhelming.  I think it'd be harder to find women who haven't gone through something like this rather those that have.  It's insanely overwhelming how many women have.  I'm sorry to say, that it is normal, and it is common.  Not acceptable or okay, but yes, definitely common enough that it is a normal experience that women go through.  Unfortunately.

Edited January 29, 2019 by Ms Blue Jay

[CraftyHazel]

Kirpa  actually looked almost annoyed when he called her name.