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OMG.  Thank you to whomever mentioned Weird Al and "White and Nerdy."  I have just returned from YouTube, and I still have tears in my eyes.  Donny Osmond was indeed hilarious.  He's not afraid to make fun of himself. 

(Did anyone else catch the quick flash of a Seth Green from BtVS cameo in front of the wall of action figures?  Weird Al goes all out to get talent for his vid...)

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Poodle:  Lindsay Lohan. She's been doing a lot of shows lately to promote her show.

Bee: damn, that voice. Amazing. Gotta be Gladys.

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Congrats to everyone who guessed the Poodle was Margaret Cho. I wanted to see who the Alien was more, though.

I'm torn between Gladys Knight and Mary Wilson for the Bee.

Go Ricki, Go Ricki! It's Ricki Lake, dammit!

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My guess for the rabbit is Jordan Knight.  Original clues pointed me towards someone from NSYNC, but the voices don't align for me.

And can pop culture expert Jenny McCarthy Wahlberg please go away already?

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Gladys Knight rules.   Just give her the win right now.

Disappointed that the Poodle went out this week, but her vocals really weren’t as good as last time.  I do like Margaret Cho and I find it odd that Ken wouldn’t have recognized her. Pleased that the Alien survived though.  

My least favorite of this group is the Raven.  I just don’t enjoy her singing or her performance.  Don’t know much about Ricki Lake or her backstory but I do think it a bit odd that in the post MeToo era where women are supposed to be strong and independent and make their own choices, she kept talking about how she needed a MAN who came and took her away.

Is this the same man who committed suicide?  And why was he her ex-husband if he meant so much to her that she is still grieving this loss from several years ago?

The Rabbit sounds more like JC Chavez and not Joey Fatone.  But for some reason the clues made it sound like he’s never been on his own or had the spotlight.  Didn’t Chavez have a solo career?  It failed but I thought he tried.  I vaguely recall that he was supposed to be the headline singer at some sports event but then got fired after Justin exposed Janet’s nipple and they were afraid he’d do the same thing.  He was bitter about it because I think it was supposed to be his big break as a solo artist and then it never happened.  

The twitching and the hamming seems more like something Joey Fatone would do.

Next week I presume the other four sing.  And of Peacock, Unicorn, Lion and Monster... I would think Unicorn is a clear goner, right?

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I'm just happy Joel McHale was back! Alien can't be Paris Hilton, she only has one sister. LaToya Jackson (toys clue?) has two, and there were four others behind her in an early video. I don't know where cobras and levitation fit in.

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I guessed Margaret Cho.  Yippee! 

Raven is totally Ricki Lake. the 1968 is the year she was born. The Hudson river clue is she was born in a town on the Hudson.  A man came to town and changed her life.  John Waters.  She was alone before ( I think she said) , because of her obesity.  

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31 minutes ago, blackwing said:

 

Next week I presume the other four sing.  And of Peacock, Unicorn, Lion and Monster... I would think Unicorn is a clear goner, right?

I dont know about that - if I correctly recall, Unicorn won against Monster on the first show.  I was taken aback because I dont think Unicorn can sing at all.  It's going to get interesting when it gets narrowed down to everybody who can really sing.   

I'm still hoping Peacock will win because I enjoy his singing and showmanship but I also feel kind of bad that a legend like Gladys Knight would be on a silly show like this, if she is Bee.  It does sound like her though.

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I’m glad the judges are no longer playing dumb with some of the more obvious people. 

The added clues just confirm that the Bee is Gladys Knight and the Raven is Ricki Lake. 

The only thing I not completely sure about is the Rabbit. 

Confirmation that the poodle is Margaret Cho shows that some on the clues are more obscure references. 

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Can anyone explain the multiple references to exercise for Margaret Cho?   The only thing I can think of is something like exercising your rights in a legal sense, and she apparently played a lawyer on some show?  Bad clue.  

What about the flying reference which led some of the judges last week to say she was a gymnast?

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Coming into this show late but it’s fun!  I love the costumes.  

It could have one or two more singers each week and one less Jenny McCarthy.  There are too many judges.

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4 minutes ago, MsJamieDornan said:

The clues all point to Joey. 

I agree. I’m just open to other possibilities because he has said it’s not him. I also wouldn’t be surprised if he is lying. 

Also the O-R-A-N-G-E clue makes me think it could be a former Mouseketeer. 

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3 hours ago, Ananayel said:

I'm just happy Joel McHale was back! Alien can't be Paris Hilton, she only has one sister. LaToya Jackson (toys clue?) has two, and there were four others behind her in an early video. I don't know where cobras and levitation fit in.

LaToya posed with a snake in her Playboy pictorial.

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I hate that they continue to give clues every week. Unless some of them are going to be red herrings/completely fabricated, it sucks the joy out of the show, because the audience has the Internet and can look these things up. I feel like this has become like in Survivor when someone finds a hidden immunity idol and then keeps getting more and more obvious clues for it, progressing from "X marks the spot on the horizon" to "where two palm trees meet" to "dig here, idiot."

Next season, I hope they give false clues, don't give the heights of the performers, potentially eliminate more than one at a time and in general, speed the show up a bit. I think they were worried that if the performers couldn't be guessed, the audience wouldn't be into it, but I feel like the guessing game (which gave the show its excitement) is just an exercise now and the show has become "tune in to see famous people singing in weird costumes."

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I really liked the vocals of the Poodle/Margaret Cho, and I'm disappointed she was voted off.  I hope she gets a future gig where she can sing.

The only problem with lying about a clue is that it quickly renders every other clue meaningless.  I'm all for obscure, even misleading clues (like Terry Bradshaw's "I like horses", which also fit Peyton Manning, but obviously wasn't), but false clues makes it an unfair puzzle...unless either there's a fixed number (e.g. one misleading clue/contestant/episode), or that's part of the puzzle (like Penn & Teller Tell a Lie.) 

In some cases, like The Raven, it lets the audience feel smarter--but there's a point where it starts making the judges look stupid--or maybe just uninformed, because they were off doing whatever made them famous at the time.

Or, as Eolivet notes, just stop giving clues.  I'll add that since it's a taped show, they don't need the time for set changes.

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I was on the fence with the Rabbit. Voice changes each week but with the clues, especially the foodie clues (did you notice he put a carrot in a hot dog bun? He owns Fat Ones Hot Dogs & Italian Ice in Orlando) its definitely Joey Fatone.  

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1 hour ago, johndanielsmom said:

I was on the fence with the Rabbit. Voice changes each week but with the clues, especially the foodie clues (did you notice he put a carrot in a hot dog bun? He owns Fat Ones Hot Dogs & Italian Ice in Orlando) its definitely Joey Fatone.  

That and the reference of Coney Island since he was born in Brooklyn.  Though some boy bands freaks are adamant of Joey McIntyre of NKOTB.  I want to yell to them "turn in your fan cards!"

 

8 hours ago, MsTree said:

LaToya posed with a snake in her Playboy pictorial.

ahhhhh.  I thought it was in reference to Muscles, the snake Michael used to have, but that makes a lot more sense.  

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If Alien is La Toya, she sure didn't inherit any good Jackson singing genes.   At this point, (and this is only my opinion), the best singers are Peacock and Bee, followed by Lion, Rabbit, and maybe Monster.  Raven is kind of weak, Alien weaker, and Unicorn can't sing to save her life.  Who am I forgetting here?    And frankly, I thought Poodle (Margaret Cho) was a better singer than Alien, but this is showing us what a crap shoot this is going to come down to in the end.   

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3 hours ago, johndanielsmom said:

I was on the fence with the Rabbit. Voice changes each week but with the clues, especially the foodie clues (did you notice he put a carrot in a hot dog bun? He owns Fat Ones Hot Dogs & Italian Ice in Orlando) its definitely Joey Fatone.  

He was also on Season 1 of Rachael vs. Guy: Celebrity Cook-Off, which I watched and immediately thought of when he gave the clue about cooking.  There is no way this is NOT Joey at this point. 

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You all do an awesome job with your predictions.  The only one I guessed correctly so far is Terry Bradshaw.

I agree with many of you that the peacock is Donny Osmond.  He was stroking a puppy the first episode and one of his hit songs was "Puppy Love".

If Gladys Knight is in the house, where are her Pips?

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1 hour ago, 12catcrazy said:

If Alien is La Toya, she sure didn't inherit any good Jackson singing genes.   At this point, (and this is only my opinion), the best singers are Peacock and Bee, followed by Lion, Rabbit, and maybe Monster.  Raven is kind of weak, Alien weaker, and Unicorn can't sing to save her life.  Who am I forgetting here?    And frankly, I thought Poodle (Margaret Cho) was a better singer than Alien, but this is showing us what a crap shoot this is going to come down to in the end.   

I agree, however I also don’t think she has picked good songs.  

(On the assumption that the Raven is Ricki Lake) - I will forever love her thanks to Cry Baby and Hairspray but dude, I think she is definitely getting over-praised.

And for the love of god, can Robin Thicke stop guessing Bella Hadid.  🙄

1 hour ago, Whimsy said:

He was also on Season 1 of Rachael vs. Guy: Celebrity Cook-Off, which I watched and immediately thought of when he gave the clue about cooking.  There is no way this is NOT Joey at this point. 

He keeps denying he is in the media, but to honest, I don’t believe it at all. 

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11 hours ago, MsTree said:

LaToya posed with a snake in her Playboy pictorial.

Paula Abdul had a song about a cold hearted snake.  She was never a very good vocalist, but she is a dancer and a choreographer. Was she the one who said quadruple threat? Recording artist and judge on talent shows. I thought the way she spoke in her last statement did have an inflection like Paula. 

I thought the poodle might have been Chelsea Handler. Just from the clue that she's been fired a lot. 

When Unicorn went on to sing another day, after her first performance. I started to speculate that some of these masked people had a time limit and only agreed to a certain amount of appearances. Unicorn was absolutely the worst one that night. I don't know why producers have to mess with a competition like this that much - it seems like it's just for fun, so who really cares who gets booted off and when. Maybe some have it in their contracts that they have to achieve a certain distance into the show. 

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On 1/19/2019 at 2:54 PM, kassandra8286 said:

OMG, how had I never seen this before? I'm dying! LOL

OMG: I was eating and EVERY TIME I took a bite, dancing Donny popped up,  I'm amazed I'm still alive.

Still on team Ricki Lake for the Raven.  She was born in Hastings-on-Hudson in 1968.

What was with all the judge/court clues for Margaret Cho?

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6 minutes ago, Omeletsmom said:

OMG: I was eating and EVERY TIME I took a bite, dancing Donny popped up,  I'm amazed I'm still alive.

Still on team Ricki Lake for the Raven.  She was born in Hastings-on-Hudson in 1968.

What was with all the judge/court clues for Margaret Cho?

She played a judge on the show Drop Dead Diva.  I guess.  I watched that show but did not remember her being on that show so it wasn't very memorable. 

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38 minutes ago, Commando Cody said:

Paula Abdul had a song about a cold hearted snake.  She was never a very good vocalist, but she is a dancer and a choreographer. Was she the one who said quadruple threat? Recording artist and judge on talent shows. I thought the way she spoke in her last statement did have an inflection like Paula. 

I was a big Paula fan in the late 80s / early 90s and there's no way that is Paula, unless she is purposely holding back or altering her singing voice.  I'd recognise her voice immediately.  I agree that Paula is no, say, Gladys Knight, but Paula Abdul is 100 times better than the Alien.  The Alien's vocals were thin and I'd be surprised if the Alien is a professional singer.  Plus, Paula doesn't fit many of the clues.  Comes from a big family with a famous name, has multiple sisters, always felt overlooked.  I don't think any of these apply to Paula Abdul.  If it were Paula I think they would have definitely thrown in a reference about giving it to us straight ("Straight Up") or wanting to be remembered forever ("Forever Your Girl").

I'm still trying to figure out the exercise clues for Margaret Cho.

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44 minutes ago, Commando Cody said:

When Unicorn went on to sing another day, after her first performance. I started to speculate that some of these masked people had a time limit and only agreed to a certain amount of appearances. Unicorn was absolutely the worst one that night. I don't know why producers have to mess with a competition like this that much - it seems like it's just for fun, so who really cares who gets booted off and when. Maybe some have it in their contracts that they have to achieve a certain distance into the show. 

I can see this. The Unicorn should have been voted off last week, instead it was Terry Bradshaw, and they promoted this show on the FOX pre-game show before the NFC Championship game last Sunday. Gotta get that corporate synergy going I guess.

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In regards to Donny and Weird Al's "White and Nerdy" video, I'm guessing you all are talking about Weird Al's finished video.  If you haven't watched the "White and Nerdy - Take 1" video, you should. It is the first take of Donny's entire dance with Weird Al.  When I met Donny for the first time, I asked him about the "White and Nerdy" video.  He said it was all ad libbed, and he had a great time doing it.

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53 minutes ago, Popples said:

I can see this. The Unicorn should have been voted off last week, instead it was Terry Bradshaw, and they promoted this show on the FOX pre-game show before the NFC Championship game last Sunday. Gotta get that corporate synergy going I guess.

I think Terry was pretty happy to be voted off last week when he was.  When he took off his deer mask he was sweating profusely.  I was concerned that he might collapse or pass out.

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https://ew.com/tv/2019/01/24/the-masked-singer-margaret-cho-poodle-interview/

Interview with Margaret Cho.  She provides some insights as to filming and production.  It's interesting to me that they are pretty much blind and can't hear a whole lot.  I suppose that confirms (assuming she is being truthful) that yes, they are in fact the person in the costume (there was speculation upthread that it's a body double until the actual reveal) and yes, they are actually singing.  I'm wondering how do the ones who are dancing a lot (like the Rabbit) avoid falling off the stage?

She cracks me up with her "someone was talking to me through the snout and has really bad breath" comment.  I'm sure that person knows who he is.  It might even be Nick Cannon haha.  

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On ‎1‎/‎20‎/‎2019 at 5:13 PM, MrsEVH said:

The first week's clue had me wondering if it was him. He he said something about his poster being on your mother's wall. I'm that mother who had it on my wall in the 70s.

I also thought of Bobby Sherman, Sean Cassidy, Toni DiFranco and Leif Garrett.  Not sure any of those are still performing, so I think Donny Osmond is the best guess.

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41 minutes ago, eyelash said:

I also thought of Bobby Sherman, Sean Cassidy, Toni DiFranco and Leif Garrett.  Not sure any of those are still performing, so I think Donny Osmond is the best guess.

Tony DeFranco. I loved him too and had his poster. He still looks good today; don't think he performs anymore.

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23 hours ago, marketdoctor said:

I'm starting to plan for (based on ratings) what will happen next year.  Who's your dream cast?  I would divide it into "famous for singing", "not famous for singing", and "some of both."  Time and budget are no object here.

 

Famous for singing:  Kelly Clarkson, just because she jump-started American Idol and has a lot of range of song choices.

Weird Al--same range of vocals. 

Not famous for singing:  Michelle Obama, just because she might actually do it.

Wil Wheaton, because he might slip out a "good night, nerds" and it would be funny if the judges don't get it.

Some of both:

Marisa Benoit:  Because other than the occasional music scene in Supergirl or the Flash, she doesn't get to sing much.

Amber Benson:  great in singing on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and also narrated "Lock In" (as did Wil Wheaton). 

Shatner.  Because, Shatner.

Patrick Stewart, for the Kirk vs. Picard and because he'd do it well, and because it'd be fun for him to be The Knight.

This list really dates me and I realize it may not be of any relevance to the targeted demographic of the show.  I have never followed rap or hip hop so I would not recognize performers of those genres even if they were not in costume.  I'd like to see if any of these folks could fool the masses: 

Tyra Banks, Maureen McCormick, Carnie Wilson (or any other Wilson Phillips participant), Peter Frampton, Frank Stallone, Eddie Murphy, Jack Wagner,  Sir Mix-A-Lot, Vanilla Ice, any member of Hanson, Lis Loeb, Jakob Dylan, Montel Jordan, Natalie Imbruglia. 

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Joey’s done a lot of foodie stuff and he was a performer at Universal Orlando after high school. There’s no way Rabbit isn’t Joey.

I also think the alien is LaToya.

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We probably shouldn't forget that Nick said some of the more recent clues might be fake or misleading. The reason he gave for this is because the panel was guessing too easily...which makes me think those guesses were definitely edited out.

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On 1/23/2019 at 9:32 PM, blackwing said:

My least favorite of this group is the Raven.  I just don’t enjoy her singing or her performance.  Don’t know much about Ricki Lake or her backstory but I do think it a bit odd that in the post MeToo era where women are supposed to be strong and independent and make their own choices, she kept talking about how she needed a MAN who came and took her away.

They said the man came and took her away in 1968. Ricki Lake was born in 1968. But the voice (or rather inflections) do sound like her to me.

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6 hours ago, llewis823 said:

They said the man came and took her away in 1968. Ricki Lake was born in 1968. But the voice (or rather inflections) do sound like her to me.

No, they merely showed the date while saying the man came to take her away,  They left us to make the connection.  It was intentionally misleading.

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The twitching tic thing the rabbit constantly does is really annoying. WTF is up with that -- did he just decide that's part of his "character?"

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I don't think the clues are too easy or too hard, considering that this group picked some but not all of the singers, and we're still guessing about a few (notably Rabbit) this far in.  Making it harder wouldn't be fair to more casual viewers, and if people want to look up clues on the internet, that's on them not the show.  It's rather like looking for spoilers -- don't do it if you don't want to know.

The guessing in this forum was FUN!

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I disagree that it's like spoilers -- most of these guesses were made on social media while the show is airing (in addition to people posting here), and literally become trending topics week after week. I've never been spoiled for Survivor or Big Brother if I'm watching in real-time, and unlike those shows, the show asks you to be a part of social media and tweet your guesses. If they're going to constantly give clues, people are going to get bored once they've guessed the celebrities.

If I want to stay unspoiled for Survivor, I don't go into spoiler threads and I stay off social media if I'm not watching live. If I don't want to be spoiled for this, I have to avoid social media even if I'm watching live? For me, that doesn't compute.

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The Rabbit is not JC. His voice is very distinctive and IMO, he’s the best boyband singer ever.

Not that Justin isn't great, but I"ve always thought that JC was robbed of solo career he should have had.  

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I didn't know Joey had any hot dog restaurants -- that changes things in my mind. I kept thinking Rabbit could be Donny Wahlberg because of Wahlbergers. And also the head-cocking thing seems like a Donny movie.  I could see this show trying to pull one over on Jenny McCarthy. 

Alien is definitely LaToya. Terrible voice but it has that thin Jackson quality. 

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I thought the head twitch is because Rabbit is in a straight jacket, so he's just being in character. I like that he's changed his voice in the two songs. I just started watching 2 days ago and I am a little bummed that I have other people's guesses in my head now, but not from here. From Youtube. So now I'm trying to lead my mom astray with her guesses. But she guessed Donny Osmond right away since she had his posters and records growing up.

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On 1/25/2019 at 10:48 AM, Jillybean said:

The twitching tic thing the rabbit constantly does is really annoying. WTF is up with that -- did he just decide that's part of his "character?"

Joey Fatone does a very similar head twitch in the “I Drive Myself Crazy” video. 

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On ‎1‎/‎25‎/‎2019 at 1:48 PM, Jillybean said:

The twitching tic thing the rabbit constantly does is really annoying. WTF is up with that -- did he just decide that's part of his "character?"

Rabbits naturally twitch all the time.  He's probably just "in character".

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