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Will there be a second part to this Tell All? I missed the end, so I couldn't see if there was a second part.

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Milking this “drama” for 2 episodes is ridiculous. The overly long dramatic pauses and hearing the stagehands discuss what’s going on is completely not needed.

Shaun is terrible. As soon as I heard someone was in bed with Jay while Ashley was bar tending, I thought, they could spend the entire show on this situation alone, and guess what, she didn’t have one follow up question.

Also, Leida’s contacts make her look like she’s starting to go blind. I have a blind dog and he has those milky, blue eyes like she had.

Last thing, the 90 Day franchise shows/does some dumb stuff that give away the outcome. 90 Day Live with Colt’s mom and the giant hostess, obviously gave away that they were married halfway through the season, and with the 90 Day Tell All, when your introductory clips show Larissa and Colt fighting with the cast, why go through such an expanded charade of “Colt and Larissa aren’t here and we don’t know if they’ll be here”?

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8 hours ago, RealReality10 said:

Also Fernanda has the jaw of a bulldog.  She can miss me with her "modelling"

I think she is not unattractive but she would do well with promotional modeling such as car shows or product sample/demo girl or maybe the cover of the Latina issue of Teen Vogue but I do not think we will see her gracing the pages of fashion mags or on the runway during fashion week, she is too short for high fashion modeling.

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I was surprised Asuelu made a crack about getting Larissa flowers when she arrived for the taping.  It was the most wit and quick thinking he's ever shown.

And what was up with that secondary studio room?  The one with the faux brick wall where Ashley and Jay had their sidebar....it looked like the backdrop of a bad 90s comedy club.  I was waiting for someone to break into some cheesy observational standup.

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6 minutes ago, Lizzing said:

And what was up with that secondary studio room?  The one with the faux brick wall where Ashley and Jay had their sidebar....it looked like the backdrop of a bad 90s comedy club.  I was waiting for someone to break into some cheesy observational standup.

I thought maybe they got it from the old Jerry Springer show

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7 hours ago, Kiss my mutt said:

Why does everyone think they can model? There is not a thing that makes any of the women on all seasons that would make them stand out. Dime a dozen material. 

So, Fernanda et al, good luck with that. 

I feel like Danielle could be a model for pinworn infection medication.

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This is Island Fun Steven, I think this is what Kalani had in mind, just loose your virginity (again), put him back in his box and move on.

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This is Island Fun Steven, I think this is what Ashley had in mind, just get the D 3 times a day for the 4 days and 3 nights you are in Jamaica then move on.

It's like they did not even read the directions on the box.

6 minutes ago, WonderWuman73 said:

 Wtf? Um no 

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The colonic sisters 

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Is the mesh shirt photo real? Seriously, real? If it is they missed a real key player in the mesh arena, Tarik King of the Mesh.

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The ladies didn't look so good. Kolani's dress made her look bigger than she is.  There is plenty of cute maternity stuff.  Ashley's boob window was strange, and Leida looked like she was trying to be sophisticated, but the outfit looked really cheap. 

At first I didn't like Larissa.  Then I didn't mind her.  Now I'm back to not liking her.  I would have been impressed if she did her hair and make up and was willing to go to the tell-all in her traveling clothes to show Fernanda that she was confident and mature and that she wouldn't sink to her level.  But that temper tantrum shit was embarrassing.  I would have thanked production for looking for something for me and made the best of the situation like an adult.

Fernanda was terrible last night and quite smug.  But I agree with her that Larissa was wrong to be all dramatic about the 911 call and then post the picture like nothing happened.

But in the end there is so little likeable about any of these people minus Asuelu and Olga.

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1 hour ago, Dance4Life said:

They need that Giant Lady that sits on the tiny chair.  She is annoying talking over everyone......but, she gets messy with her questions.

 

She straight up asked people if they are protitutes......and, here for the green card.

 

(and, honestly....I am all for the fiancés getting  their green card and leave if they want). Show me the money for the next 10 years! If you brought them to USA....suck it up, buttercup!

I actually like her. I think she’s ridiculously quick witted. The problem with that show is they ask too much of her. Cramming way too many guests in an hour in a live format. The show would be much better if it wasn’t live and was edited. The only reason it’s live is so they can have those pointless twitter polls that nobody cares about. Also, the decision to get every possible item that Home Goods sells to decorate the set is misguided.

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33 minutes ago, JasonH said:

I feel like Danielle could be a model for pinworn infection medication.

They want to be the next Kardashians.

 

Even Larissa said.....I want a sexy Kardashian dress.

 

They are ‘IG models’....which is code for yacht girls.  Ummmm, girls searching for sugardaddies to escort.

 

If Fernanda is gone and divorcing John......then she found another sugar daddy.

John was totally funding her.  We haven’t seen that on this show to that extend.

 

Did John apply  for  Fernanda to get the green card?

 

I think it is a good idea for them to wait 6  months to 1 year.  Then apply for a green card like Ashley is doing.

 

It can be seen as an extension to the 90 days law.  90 days is too short! 

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5 hours ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

He doesn't love her and he never did and she has to know that.

I think Jay actually does love Ashley, but is far, far too young to settle down.  This was inevitable. 

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16 minutes ago, JasonH said:

I actually like her. I think she’s ridiculously quick witted. The problem with that show is they ask too much of her. Cramming way too many guests in an hour in a live format. The show would be much better if it wasn’t live and was edited.

I do, too.  But I think the one-on-one format works against her, since the guests on her show are typically the stupidest people on earth, with no idea when to start/stop talking in an interview or how to make concise statements that answer the questions they've been asked.  She'd probably do pretty well on a Tell-All.  

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Leida- It is hard dealing with step kids and I have no experience.  I tell them what to do and they push back.  Oh, hun........they are teenagers..........they push back against the entire world!  You have been in their life for a hot 5 seconds and you are demanding a teenager move out and proudly boast......‘ I don’t care where she goes.....get the F’ out........I need that room for Myson.  

 

Yes, you have experience with teenager temper tantrums.  You act no different than a teenager.  ‘If Tasha doesn’t move out.......I go back to Indonesia!’ Classic manipulated a’hole behavior.  She can’t even wait until Eric gets home.  She is doing it over a phone video chat!  WTF.......?  Lol!

 

For a 30 year old woman you should be ashamed and offer an apology.  If you want a genuine ‘stepmom role’......then tell the kids you want to be there for them.....and, say Sorry!

 

But, what does she tell us at the reunion.  ‘I know I wasn’t wrong how I handled the stepkids.  FFS, stop calling them your step-children and yourself a stepmom.  Call them my husband’s kids. You have not ‘mothered’ them once! 

 

And, Eric and Leida went to the reunion with a purpose.  Their humble attitude was fake due to all the IG hate......and, now Leida can’t get endorsements...or, become reality tv celebs.

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30 minutes ago, JennyMominFL said:

No. NO NO NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOO

I guess a Bird Box meme would be appropriate here...

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I call BS on Steven not applying for the visa because he didn't want to get stuck with Olga for 10 years if they weren't a match.  You had a child together, you are responsible for her for 18 years now and responsible for the son for life.  10 years is irrelevant once she got pregnant.

I call hard BS on Jay not knowing what the word monogamous meant.  He tried to pretend he didn't know what it meant to get off the hook, but sorry your Freudian slip is showing. 

Larissa and Fernanda are such amateurs and lucky they are not in a showdown with Anfisa.  Anfisa would have butchered the two of them with her bitch cutting knife and ate them for dinner already.

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11 minutes ago, JennyMominFL said:

No. NO NO NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOO

Totally normal men behavior!  I am not shocked.

 

 He is actually a little bit bigger than I suspected......to be Vienna sausage size.

 

but, who leaked it?  Why is he POV’ing  his handy j???  Coltee is a freak!

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Someone should do a video of the theme music to Jeopardy playing in the background  while Jay stalled trying to answer the question of could he be monogamous.

Sorry Leida but those  tears and apology don't cut it. There is no coming back from telling a man to ditch his children for you and your child on national TV.  Also, it doesn't  help that you are still a bitch to Eric's children.

I agree there is more going on with Asuelu than just innocent, carefeee island boy.

Seeing that footage of Steven being a complete abusive ass again makes me wish Olga had some uncles or some male friends to set Steven straight. 

Someone said Jon and Fernanda probably returned those Loubitouns later on. Lol 

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I have some more thoughts that I forgot to include in my initial post.

Leida complaining about her stepkids really irked me.  She can't expect to come into their lives and act like a complete a-hole and be respected.  Respect is a two-way street, and it seems as though Eric's children have no reason to care about her at all.

The shoes the women were wearing made me laugh.  Ashley had on rockstuds, Leida was wearing terrible fake Louboutins, and Fernanda was also had on the red sole (real or not I'm not sure).  None of these women are wealthy, so it seems ridiculous to me.  I have heels from Payless that I get many compliments on, and I'd totally rock them on tv.  Sure, I could buy expensive shoes, but I prioritize my home and my son.  No shame. 

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I think they edited La-rrrrreeeesa’s (I love how she pronounced her name) screeching.  

 

This is why they all starting acting like idiots and walked off.

 

From what I saw...it was John talking over Larissa and not giving Fernanda a chance to talk.  

  Then they all started complaining for her to allow Fernanda to talk.

 

Yall.....Asuelu is a weird kid!

 

 Why is he always in his Samoan costume?  It is freaking 90 Day Fiance......Not the Moana movie.

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10 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

She will keep Jay as long as she gets the dack three times a day.

That's my assumption, too.  Ashley seemed sympathetic to Fernanda's complaints--all solid and understandable--about how hard it is to be left alone all day, without friends or much to do except clean the house, while her American goes to work, yet she doesn't see the beam in her own eye as she does exactly the same thing to Jay.  Jay, of course, is the scum of the earth for using that time alone to work on his skinz skills, but it seems like Ashley could have tried to find him something to do.  I'm a little on Jay's side here, while agreeing that what he did was unforgivable--he has apologized and vowed to never do it again--what more can he do at this point?  She needs to either accept his apology and give him another chance, or annul the marriage and get him the hell out of there.  When she said she had made no move to change his status (which I'm assuming means get a green card so he can work), I was all WTH? until it occurred to me that she's continuing to go to Pound Town while holding him in utter contempt.  Or as a sex slave.  And I think that makes her worse than he is.

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29 minutes ago, Dance4Life said:

but, who leaked it?  Why is he POV’ing  his handy j???  Coltee is a freak!

He sent the picture unsolicited himself. He leaked it. Coltee is indeed a freak, and an exhibitionist with a taste for public humiliation.

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I'm not super thrilled with Steven, but I do give him credit for owning his most of his behavior. He is very young.

He needs to understand that Russians don't constantly say please and thank you and other niceties even though they ARE grateful and kind. They just don't waste their time on it.

He got a woman pregnant, and he flew across the world to step up to the plate. He's still kind of a jerk. He's rough around the edges, but I'm hoping against hope that he can grow up.

Olga appears to really need him right now.

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11 minutes ago, Mothra said:

it seems like Ashley could have tried to find him something to do.

Is it her responsibility to find him a hobby? He can read a book, watch TV, tend the garden, start an aquarium, and pick fights with Larissa on the internet. The possibilities are endless.

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5 minutes ago, Mothra said:

She needs to either accept his apology and give him another chance, or annul the marriage and get him the hell out of there.  When she said she had made no move to change his status (which I'm assuming means get a green card so he can work), I was all WTH? until it occurred to me that she's continuing to go to Pound Town while holding him in utter contempt.  Or as a sex slave.  And I think that makes her worse than he is.

Ashley seems to get a lot of slack for her actual treatment of Jay, probably because she's a woman and he's a man and the automatic assumption is that he can leave when he wants and she can't stop him.  Shit, I know I'm guilty of it.  But if I take a step back and flip the script - say Larissa had hit up a guy on Tinder and met him/didn't meet him, but Colt kept her in the States in immigration limbo while he continued to "enjoy her presence" I'd find him predatory.  I felt for Ashley when she found out about the other women, but at that point her options were a) put the kibosh on it or b) forgive/forget/move on.  She seems to have opted for punishing him continuously- and people who do that are just as cruel as those who have cheated on them, IMO.  

Just now, CoachWristletJen said:

I'm not super thrilled with Steven, but I do give him credit for owning his most of his behavior. He is very young.

He needs to understand that Russians don't constantly say please and thank you and other niceties even though they ARE grateful and kind. They just don't waste their time on it.

He got a woman pregnant, and he flew across the world to step up to the plate. He's still kind of a jerk. He's rough around the edges, but I'm hoping against hope that he can grow up.

Olga appears to really need him right now.

This (bolded.)  Olga also appears to really love him now, too.  I think the cameras out of their faces (and the uberstress of a new baby and trying to rekindle an old flame during that time) have helped them reidentify what it is they like in each other.

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13 minutes ago, Mothra said:

Jay, of course, is the scum of the earth for using that time alone to work on his skinz skills, but it seems like Ashley could have tried to find him something to do. 

The only thing Ashley wanted Jay to do was Ashley.

Skins couldn't go to the supermarket without a headache. 

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9 hours ago, doyouevengohere said:

Larissa was arrested the first time around the time of their wedding (which was sorta shown and Colt called the police) and she was arrested again in early Nov. 2018- she and Colt had some big drama on IG in which she claimed that he took her phone and she locked herself in the bathroom afraid to come out and her IG followers called the police.  She was arrested and Colt had scratches on his body. Maybe in their state if the police are called, someone gets arrested? The police report is floating around online.  I think the charges were dropped in both; if I remember correctly.

Thanks @doyouevengohere. Coltee and Larissa seemed to be in sync and in agreement. It was very creepy and probably an act. Did Larissa say she wanted a Kardashian-like dress?

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7 minutes ago, Drogo said:

The only thing Ashley wanted Jay to do was Ashley.

Skins couldn't go to the supermarket without a headache. 

It's definitely an unhealthy setup. Jay was using her to get to the States, but I wonder if he would have been less inclined to cheat had she given him a longer leash? Perhaps a few days at the tattoo shop where he could make some male friends as opposed to keeping him in her comfortable house like some kind of a lonely pet? All of her decisions were made with very little consideration for his feelings.

The fact that he waited until they were legally married to download Tinder shows how very calculated he is.  I thought he also revealed his true character when he crossed his arms and said that she would need to get the police to remove him. He's not in love with her; he's in love with her house in the United States! 

In Steven I see the potential to grow into a caring man. In Jay, I see a sociopath.

And, Ashley is as dumb as a box of rocks. But, she is addicted to tormenting Jay. Either forgive him and let him stay, or make him leave... those are the two honest choices. However, she wants to keep him around and bully and berate and humiliate him. Jay has become the perfect object for her to take out all of her aggressions against every man who has ever wronged her. He's gonna pay for that green card! He's will pay hard. She's very abusive.

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3 hours ago, Armchair Critic said:

AAAAAAAAAACK! I can't believe Bristol Palin of all people posted it. Good thing I decided to start my diet today because my appetite is gone after seeing that mess.

I watched that shit while eating breakfast.  

Five years here will give you those special powers.

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11 minutes ago, Mothra said:

We learned from Pao that "model" means having your picture taken with most of your clothes off, to illustrate the culture of your country. 

Pao confused her cuh-reer goals, she should be getting paid not paying a photog to take your photo.  I could be a model, I have a checking account, lol.

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43 minutes ago, CoachWristletJen said:

He needs to understand that Russians don't constantly say please and thank you and other niceties even though they ARE grateful and kind. They just don't waste their time on it.

Often times when Russians answer the phone it is "Da" not "Hello." Like a lot of Europeans they are direct and to the point and Steven should not take it personally. 

I think Olga is a nice young lady who unfortunately got pregnant and now has to navigate thru parenthood and a relationship that should have just been a fling.

I have to laugh, all these 90 day sprints to the alter and here I am waiting for my daughter's boyfriend of 5 years to put a ring on her finger...not sure which is better, lol. 

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Just now, shannew said:

Shaun sitting there looking like Ms Celie from The Color Purple when the fight broke out at The Juke Joint.

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2 hours ago, Armchair Critic said:

I thought maybe they got it from the old Jerry Springer show

I assumed you were talking about Ashley's life when you referenced Jerry Springer but now realize you meant the brick wall, lol.

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1 hour ago, Angkor said:

I call BS on Steven not applying for the visa because he didn't want to get stuck with Olga for 10 years if they weren't a match.  You had a child together, you are responsible for her for 18 years now and responsible for the son for life.  10 years is irrelevant once she got pregnant.

Boy, Steven never disappoints, does he?  He has found a way to excuse his failure to apply for Olga's visa, even getting support from dumbass Kalani, so now there's absolutely nothing for him to regret or apologize for in his abominable behavior toward Olga.  I hope to dog that everyone is harder on him in part 2, forcing him to confess that while he wasn't sure he wanted Olga to come with him to the US (after all, she was no longer that girl on the beach), he planned from the beginning to kidnap Myson and leave Olga in Russia.  His behavior toward her is too despicable for words, and my only hope is that she is pretending to care about him (btw if I never see another Justin Bieber "heart" sign it'll be too soon) so she and Myson can get a new start on their own in the US.  If there were justice in this world, what he did to her would be criminal, and he'd be in jail right now.  To think that some of us held out hope that he would mature and become a better person--no way.  He is not a good person, so there's no "bettering" to be expected.  Fuck him sideways to hell and back.

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2 hours ago, Toaster Strudel said:

Is it her responsibility to find him a hobby? He can read a book, watch TV, tend the garden, start an aquarium, and pick fights with Larissa on the internet. The possibilities are endless.

Oh, he *has* a hobby.  If she bartends at night, she should've found ways to tire him out during the day time, like you do a puppy you want to stop chewing on furniture.  Of course it's not her responsibility, but it would have been smart on her part to find him something to do.  Or maybe she preferred that he spend all that free time on Tindr.

ETA:  It's like Dr. Phil sez:  would you rather be right, or would you rather be happy?

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The Tell All is usually my favorite episode. I love everyone commenting on other people's relationships.

I felt a bit bad at Ashley at one point for having to sit through the interview talking about the situation with Jay.

I was waiting patiently for Tasha to come on the TV screen and now I have to wait a week! Darn!

Was that tattoos on Asuelo's thighs? Why is he wearing shorts in the winter?

Fernanda is oh so jealous, but apparently Jonathan is too!

Steven is still waiting on those thank yous from Olga. Keep waiting!

The Larissa storm was oh so annoying and Colt chiming in too dissing Jonathan and Fernanda was hilarious.

Great interview.

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41 minutes ago, shannew said:

Shaun sitting there looking like Ms Celie from The Color Purple when the fight broke out at The Juke Joint.   She's totally useless and I say this every year on the tell all.    

I'm just gonna lay on this floor under my desk and die. I'm dead!!

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1 hour ago, CoachWristletJen said:

I'm not super thrilled with Steven, but I do give him credit for owning his most of his behavior. He is very young.

He needs to understand that Russians don't constantly say please and thank you and other niceties even though they ARE grateful and kind. They just don't waste their time on it  

My Russian husband (mixed-he is from Ukraine but his family fled there from Russia during the Revolution) always says please and thank you. He kisses my hand and thanks me for preparing dinner. He always thanked his mother and grandmother for cooking for him as well. But, he’s not a proletariat. The boorishness is a holdover from Soviet society. 

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10 hours ago, renatae said:

I couldn't believe he had NO regrets about all that nastiness he was dishing right after the baby was born. Defending wanting to be thanked was one thing, but not having any regrets about any of his other abusiveness was other worldly. Steven, all right, all the time. Jerk.

I wished they would have dragged his hide to kingdom come.

 

8 minutes ago, Mothra said:

<snip>  I hope to dog that everyone is harder on him in part 2, forcing him to confess that while he wasn't sure he wanted Olga to come with him to the US (after all, she was no longer that girl on the beach), he planned from the beginning to kidnap Myson and leave Olga in Russia. <snip>

Did I miss the clips of Steven talking about taking Richie back to the U.S. and leaving Olga behind in Russia, or were those clips not shown at all?

If the latter, I cannot understand why TLC would ignore what I, and many other viewers, see as Steven's most egregious behavior this season. Surely the other couples would have torn him apart had that been up for discussion.

What they did show (that I remember) certainly pales in comparison to that.

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Steven makes no apologies for anything and still comes off as very controlling. . That's a bad sign. He can still take the baby away from Olga once she's here. I hope she is very, very careful. 

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You see?  When Larissa started screeching during the Cousin Coltee Bitch Attack Coltee got on Expedia searching for the cheapest ticket to Brazil.

 

Ashley is like well I am not applying for his green card.  This is her revenge.  You are not getting the American Dream on my coin.  

 

And, can someone enlighten me.  Do they get stuck supporting foreigner when they get marry or when they apply for green card application?  

 

There is is so much tension and hurt coming from Ashley that it can’t be healthy for her kids.  

 

They must be hating their home life right now just like  Molly’s daughters.....to the point where the oldest on moved out.

 

Ashley is a mess......and, Jay is a mess.  He is a player and 20....and, we can’t blame him.

He said many times his dream was to live in America.

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12 minutes ago, Carly13817 said:

 

Was that tattoos on Asuelo's thighs? Why is he wearing shorts in the winter?

 

The tattoos are cultural. 

 

There is a show on Netflix called Casketeers. It is about the Pacific Islanders culture and their rituals during funeral planning.

 

It is actually pretty cute and cast is likeable and funny.

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Fernanda-She is a jealous mean girl. No excuses for her attacks on Larissa. I was 19 once too and would never have behaved this way. 

Jonathan-An enabler.  He also lacks maturity. 

Larissa-Didn’t like her at first. She’s fiery but I believe a lot of her on camera personality is concocted. 

Colt-rational, stereotype engineer personality. I am neutral toward him.  

Ashley-Needs therapy. 

Jay-A user. Any man (I use the term loosely) trolling for women online on his wedding day is never going to be a good husband, unless you’re in an open marriage and have lots of penicillin. She should dump him now and save herself heartache. 

Kalani-I think she’s a very calm person who internalizes most of her stress. That’s why she was calm most of the time, even during the tell all. 

Asuelu-I think everyone is downplaying cultural differences. Not showing your anger is a Samoan cultural expectation. I also think he sounds childlike because his English is at a rudimentary level. 

Steven-I give him a pass on the K-1. He didn’t qualify so could not have done one. He’s young and immature, and comes from a background with little support. What type of mother throws out a teen?  I think with time, if he finishes his schooling, he’ll be fine. 

Olga-Nothing to say, other than I doubt she got pregnant in hopes of a green card. Russia gives mothers a lot of incentives, so realistically, her life there would be easier. 

Leida-Not fooled by the fake tears. I can’t believe this is all for drama. She just seems like a horrible human being. 

Eric-Weak. I don’t like weak men. 

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