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Two things occur to me:

1) I think Bridget was intentionally buying the most expensive version of everything she could find. This is common with people who've experienced food scarcity (plus Bridget's a binge eater anyway). Her cart was SO FULL. Even just the food items were probably enough for a family of 6. Buying more than you could possibly eat or use is totally congruent with her issues. Even when she was stealing. You know what? Ally is so oblivious,and her fridge were so full, if Bridget just took one of the multiple bottles of milk that was in there, and maybe one of the cartons of eggs...I mean that's not good...I'm not advocating stealing, but I'd judge her a helluva lot less than when she filled up multiple bags worth of stuff and treated that fridge like a store. I mean, she worked there. She probably knows what they buy and have plenty of and wouldn't notice or care about. When she gave in to her impulse to steal, that too, was not about need. It started out about need, the reason she had the thought in the first place, but quickly turned into just another binge for her.

2) I noticed a few people mentioning her imagination. I'm not completely convinced that some of the daydream/dream sequences we've seen are meant to represent just her imagining things or regular ol' dreams. I think at least some of them were full on hallucinations, but others might represent the idea that Bridget has intrusive thoughts, and we're getting to see them.

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4 minutes ago, 17wheatthins said:

Is she an amateur or something, trying to pressure an actress with a no-nudity clause?

Maybe desperation to boost the ratings?

She did do more nudity herself this season.  She could have hired some extras or people who specialize in doing random nudity and write in some gratuitous scenes for the titillation quotient.

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Wow it goes WAY beyond mishandling a nude scene, though I guess she had been pushing the actress who plays Nelson, Rafi's girlfriend, over both seasons.

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The conflict with Weaving followed an incident in season one when Weaving was asked with 40 minutes’ notice to perform a nude love scene despite a no-nudity clause in her contract. (An insider says a waiver had been prepared but wasn’t signed.) When she balked, a source says an exasperated Shaw pulled her into a trailer, yanked off her own top and demanded to know why Weaving had a problem being nude when Shaw had no such concerns. (Shaw’s lawyer says her breasts were not exposed when she yanked up her shirt.) THR inquired how Weaving’s reps responded to this confrontation when told about it but neither her agency, WME, nor her manager, Todd Diener, responded to repeated requests for comment.

In the second season, Weaving was set to do another intimate scene with Gomez, one in which he was nude and she was wearing only a T-shirt and underwear. Sources say the pair asked to meet with director Cate Shortland without Shaw present. They explained the season-one conflict over the nude scene and stressed the importance of having their privacy respected. On the morning of the shoot, the set closed and monitors outside were turned off.

Shaw was not present the day the scene was shot. However, she texted a staffer to ask how it was progressing. When told the monitors were off, she is said to have instructed that they be turned on, and producer Allyce Ozarski carried out the order. More than a dozen staffers were in the room when the unfolding scene appeared on two screens, sources say, with the actors unaware. Weaving learned what had happened from the writers and sources believe she reported the incident to SAG-AFTRA and Showtime.

“It was completely unprofessional,” says script supervisor Kristin Calabrese, who quickly cleared the room. “They should have made it known immediately to our actors and our director. I know there were past incidents that led up to this being such a sensitive situation, but on any show, if an actor is feeling unsafe or uncomfortable with something, it’s our responsibility to make them feel safe.”

There were complaints from others who worked on the show but Shaw is intimidating them.

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Several members of the SMILF crew — including costume designer Kameron Lennox, location manager Ryan Cook and camera operator Abby Linne — emailed THR to say that working on the show was a positive experience. “I've never been on a job where I feel more safe and empowered to do my best work,” Linne wrote, while Cook emailed, “Frankie set a new standard for inclusiveness and equality on her sets that has not been the norm for Hollywood.”

But several insiders on SMILF who spoke to THR on the condition of anonymity say they are extremely fearful that Shaw will try to sabotage them professionally if they speak publicly about alleged issues on the show. They also express great disappointment at what they describe as manipulative and inequitable treatment — with behavior veering from warm to cold and threatening — coming from a rising female showrunner that has been outspoken in the #MeToo and Time’s Up movements.

“She uses this idea of being feminist and a progressive as camouflage,” says one staffer. Says another, “A lot of shows are generally unpleasant. Production is stressful. There are a lot of shows where people are angry at each other and then it’s over and then you celebrate the work. This was not like that. People were really traumatized. It was pretty upsetting.”

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/smilf-creator-frankie-shaw-investigated-misconduct-claims-1170077

Frankie Shaw is 37 so not the wunderkind she's portrayed as being.  She's I guess playing a version of herself about 10-15 years younger.

Some Boston politicians, where some of the show was filmed, are talking about revoking some of the tax credits they extended the production, because of thees allegations.

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My issue is that even if Weaving didn't have a no-nudity clause, there was no reason to pressure her into doing a nude scene. They could have used a body double. They could have done the sex scene with her wearing some kind of clothing like a bra, a t-shirt/tank top, or lingerie. They could have shot the scene the way network shows do where nudity is implied but not actually shown (like showing her from the shoulders up or getting a shot of her naked back).

There is very rarely EVER a sex scene where nudity from the actress is required in order to sell me on what is happening.

If Frankie is comfortable being naked on camera, that's great (and I mean that sincerely) but that doesn't mean she should try to force anyone else to do the same thing.

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S2.E7: Smile More If Lying Fails

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At a cookout celebrating Eliza's graduation, Bridgette comes to terms with the unacknowledged racial divide between the two friends; Eliza admits that Bridgette's disconnect is ultimately what gives their friendship strength.

Original air date: 3/10/19

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 The actress isn't anything special, why not hire someone without a no-nudity clause?  These kinds of Showtime and HBO series always have nudity so kind of stupid to hire an actress who says upfront she's not interested.  

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I can't help but see the parallels between Bridgette and Frankie.   Bridgette's behavior sabotages chances for her to make her life better.  Parking in a tow zone, car is towed.  Calling in sick to a job to bathe in milk cause she masturbated with fingers coated with flaming, hot cheetos.  No money for food, but spends money to get on a plane to search for a man who molested her.......... I could go on, but.....  Seems like Frankie too as a strong tendency to self sabotage.  

I started watching because it was filmed in Boston and Rosie O'Donnell, but I always found it weird, but thinking it would take time to really get going, I kept watching.  It had a good premise, but it just didn't seem to get there.

Of course I don't know if these allegations of misconduct are true.  This could have been a break out role for the actress who complained.  Yes, she, like Bridgette could be self sabotaging, but since others have corroborated her story, the series is cancelled, and Frankie Shaw has been suspended without pay, I doubt it.  

Having recently worked with a manager who pulled many of Bridgette/Frankie's machinations and was promoted, I am delighted at this outcome.

RIP Bridgette Bird.  So sorry that Rosie and the other actors have lost jobs, but I think they'll all be fine.  Perhaps Frankie should seek out a career in the food service industry, if she could remember to ask people if they "would like fries with that".

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Frankie Shaw definitely has talent.  I'm sure she will get another chance once the furor has died down.

Post #MeToo, you can't have misconduct on the set, even if it's a woman in charge.

Don't know, Lena Dunham alienated large swaths of the public but she kept her show on the air for 5 seasons and she was truly precocious.

Frankie it seems mostly alienated at least some of the cast and crew.  Despite the furor, if the show did better in the ratings, maybe Showtime would have tried to ride it out.  They might have helped her with the damage control she seemed to have been doing.

I guess if you want to watch characters from Southie on Showtime, it will have to be Ray Donovan.  😄  Of course, Shaw may be an authentic Bostonian while Liev Schriber, Jon Voight and the others are just putting on accents.

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Honestly I'm surprised the show got a season 2; unlike Shameless the main character is really hard to root for. 

I just watched the episode airing today and she's so cringey I can't even. 

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5 hours ago, jamfly said:

Honestly I'm surprised the show got a season 2; unlike Shameless the main character is really hard to root for. 

I just watched the episode airing today and she's so cringey I can't even. 

Girls ran for six seasons and I couldn't root for any of the characters who were all complete assholes.

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I like Eliza and I totally feel for her because panic attacks suck, but this is the girl who was eating weed gummies before a funeral. She should be prepared for stressful situations like family gatherings (by having some edibles beforehand and/or bringing some with her) so that she doesn't have to resort to calling Bridgette to bring her weed (especially since, let's face it, Bridgette isn't always the most reliable person).

While I understand why Rafi and Nelson didn't invite Bridgette to their wedding (even though it sounded like they just didn't want to deal with his family asking why she was there), who do they think is going to watch Larry the whole time that he's in Puerto Rico? Rafi and Nelson are going to be busy, you know, getting married, so do they think Larry is going to take care of himself and feed himself and bathe himself?

If Larry were, say, 20, then I could understand Rafi and Nelson deciding to invite only him and not Bridgette, but how the hell do you invite a 2 year old kid somewhere without his mother? That makes no sense at all, especially since from what we've seen, Larry does not have a relationship with anyone in Rafi's family meaning Larry is not going to be comfortable having Rafi's relatives take care of him, even if it's only for a few days.

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Actually they did cut back Nelson's scenes compared to season 1.

Bridget was trying too hard to be cool with her ex getting married but obviously it hit her.  I guess in some weird way she thinks if she was invited, it's not real.

But then she goes to that guy wanting to be loved and instead he treats her like Adam treated Hannah in Girls, trying to be porny as he said.

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On 3/10/2019 at 9:17 AM, ElectricBoogaloo said:

I like Eliza and I totally feel for her because panic attacks suck, but this is the girl who was eating weed gummies before a funeral. She should be prepared for stressful situations like family gatherings (by having some edibles beforehand and/or bringing some with her) so that she doesn't have to resort to calling Bridgette to bring her weed (especially since, let's face it, Bridgette isn't always the most reliable person).

While I understand why Rafi and Nelson didn't invite Bridgette to their wedding (even though it sounded like they just didn't want to deal with his family asking why she was there), who do they think is going to watch Larry the whole time that he's in Puerto Rico? Rafi and Nelson are going to be busy, you know, getting married, so do they think Larry is going to take care of himself and feed himself and bathe himself?

If Larry were, say, 20, then I could understand Rafi and Nelson deciding to invite only him and not Bridgette, but how the hell do you invite a 2 year old kid somewhere without his mother? That makes no sense at all, especially since from what we've seen, Larry does not have a relationship with anyone in Rafi's family meaning Larry is not going to be comfortable having Rafi's relatives take care of him, even if it's only for a few days.

In real life, this is how Puerto Rican kids grow up.  We spend the school year in the states and then 2 months in Puerto Rico.  If you have family in New York.  Then it is a month in NYC and 1 month in PR.

You go without your parents. You get sent to someone’s house.  Then you are sent all over the island to spend time with all your family. Puerto Rican families love little kids and meeting the kids of the family members they helped raised.

Then when summer is finished your parents fly out to PR and pick you up.

You usually fly there by yourself.  I have been flying by myself since I was very young. I remember getting lost in the ATL airport.  Then I was taken to the pilots lounge and got a cockpit tour. My dad was a jet fighter so I thought this was super cool to do it at the airport. 

This goes on every summer until you hit puberty. 

Look at how happy Larry was at the cookout.  Around other kids, running wild outside.

Larry lacks fresh air and little kids.....just around Bridgette all day.  

Sad to go see the show go. She should remain professional with everyone.

I agree with the person that said....casting mistakes. Why even hire an actress with a non nudity clause.  It is a girls show and on Showtime. Bad choice.  Also, Larry is starting to look like a girl.  Not sure how they were able going to pull that off much longer. Especially, in the talking scenes.

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My hubby and I love this show. Screwed up Bridgette and all. When I told him it was cancelled, he said, now you dont have to worry about what's going to happen to the girls that play Larry starting to look girly. I think Rosie is brilliant in this show. I will miss it. I am a very conservative person, but I like my teevee characters to be a little twisted.

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I am going to miss this show.    I'm sad that Frankie screwed up---I was someone who has been rooting for her--seemed like she got such a huge chance when she got this show.     That said I believe the actress and Rosie that it happened, and there should be consequences.

I thought this was a really great ensemble cast--from Bridgette and Larry and Tutu to Ally's messed up family.    I particularly loved Rosie and Connie Britton in their parts.

I hope Frankie takes this to heart and gets some mentoring before she takes on such a big project again--I think she is very talented and I would love to see her do something else.    I was just reading an interview with another woman director who said that women directors in Hollywood have to be perfect--one mistake, and you're done.   

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I'm not sure if her deal with ABC Studios, which was for more than just this show, was canceled or just suspended.

Maybe after the furor dies down, they will give her a chance to develop another show

Since this show was based on a short film that she'd made years ago, she's going to have to demonstrate that she can come up with another idea which will attract not just studio attention but also draw actors of some renown.

Besides Rosie O'Donnell, I guess the actress who played Nelson was an up and coming actress who had been trying to leverage a modeling career.

Yeah I too will check out what Frankie Shaw comes up with next.

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7 hours ago, car54 said:

hope Frankie takes this to heart and gets some mentoring before she takes on such a big project again--I think she is very talented and I would love to see her do something else.    I was just reading an interview with another woman director who said that women directors in Hollywood have to be perfect--one mistake, and you're done.   

The thing is Frankie had more opportunity and support than a lot of new creators she was in the WGA Showrinner program which is highly competitive to get into and covers most of these issues and provides a lot of support so her “they should have a class” or whatever she said on Seth Meyers is more than a little disingenuous.

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Whoa I just heard about all the controversy with Frankie and that the show has been cancelled. Its really disappointing, as this show has grown on me a lot, and I think Frankie has a unique creative voice, but the show has always had flaws, and obviously things behind the scenes sound pretty lousy.

You can really see so much of Frankie in Bridget, just from what I gathered while reading about what was going on behind the scenes. They are both creative and intelligent in many ways and have a lot to say about the world that can actually be really interesting, but are also self destructive, selfish, lacking in common sense and self awareness, and generally cause a lot of problems for people around them. 

I mean, yeah there is a lot of she said and another she said here, but its sounds like a lot of people have said things, we will have to wait and see I guess. 

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S2.E8: Sex Makes It Less Formal

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Bridgette throws a bachelor party for Rafi; Nelson celebrates her engagement with her mother and sister, reigniting their unresolved familial tensions; Jackie helps Tutu accept the realities of a life outside of Southie.

Original air date: 3/17/19

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Carlos: Are you sure about the stripper [for Rafi's bachelor party] though?
Bridgette: What? Rafi loves strippers. His mom was a stripper.

Carlos: Get a blonde [stripper].
Bridgette: Blonde? No, blonde's so boring. Yuck, gross.
Carlos: You're a hater.
Bridgette: No, Nelson's a blonde. We need to get a girl he could never get.
Carlos: What he can't get?
Bridgette: There's a lot of girls he couldn't get. Like a girl from Long Island with One Direction played her bat mitzvah. Couldn't get her. A Scottish lady who's into Highland dancing. A Native American who's never been off the rez. I could keep going.
Carlos: That's mad specific. Is that even an option?
Bridgette: No, but you can pick the hair color.

Bridgette: Ember. "She knows when to hold 'em. She knows when to fold 'em. She knows when to sit on your dick."
Carlos: That's a great brand. Order her.

Winnie: Can you move back a bit please? My personal space bubble's quite large.

Winnie: What's the wifi?
Nelson: It's hashtag blessed smiley face smiley face.

Winnie: I almost died.
Enid: Yes, she did, but there's always a silver lining to every story.
Winnie: My kidneys nearly completely shut down.
Enid Yeah, but look what you got out of it. You dropped thirty pounds.
Winnie: I had to wear diapers for a month, which, actually, I quite liked. I never had to get up to go to the bathroom.
Nelson: Dad's not coming?
Winnie: Maybe I should start a line of adult diapers, but not for old people. For like young cool adults. Black for evening.
Enid: Dad is not coming because he doesn't want to see you in your dress before the big day.
Winnie: That's the groom, mom.

Jackie: It's so hot!
Tutu: Maybe you shouldn't wear a sweater on your neck.

Tutu: This is a will packet. I got it at the post office.
Jackie: Gawd, it is always so effing depressing when I come in here.
Tutu: What's depressing about a will packet?
Jackie: Every time I come in here, somebody's dead or somebody's taking their meds or somebody's asleep on the couch.
Tutu: Well, geez, I'm sorry that Joe died when it wasn't your time table.

Bridgette: I have this for you. It's a pink penis filled with coconut water.
Rafi: Oh, thank you!

Nelson: [The wedding dress] is very tight.
Winnie: How is that possible: You're like a skeleton with a wig on. Sorry, I'm very tired from the flight. Mom was in first class but I was in economy.
Enid: No, you were in economy plus. Gratitude, Winnie.

Enid: I wish your father was here to see you. Don't you think?
Winnie: One big happy family. I think I know what he would say. "I am so honored to hand off my prettiest, sweetest, straightest, blondest daughter, the one who if she died, it would really mess me up for a while and she does have a job, which is good."

Itsy: I like Nelson but if that white South African bitch do some shit to you, I'll fucking kill that bitch.
Carlos: [Nelson]'s South African?
Rafi: Australian.

Teo: I want to tell y'all about the time that [Rafi] shit his pants in fucking Target.

Enid: Look at Winnie. She's saving all those street dogs and being gay.

Enid: I'm going to go face with dad.
Winnie: Facetime.

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Bridgette, GURL. It was bad enough that she stole multiple bags of groceries from Ally's house earlier this season, but using her credit card to pay for all the bachelor party? That is really crossing the line. She is really getting out of control. When they others asked why the stripper hadn't arrived yet, I thought maybe Ally had reported the unauthorized charges on her card.

Oh, that letter from Joe just broke my heart. Rosie O'Donnell is amazing as Tutu.

Nelson's mom talking about the guru she met in Bali and having orgasms from him touching her hair - ugh. And what kind of person buys herself a first class ticket and makes her daughter fly economy?

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Some interesting strands but they’re com8ng up with it late in the season.  We’re they going to use as cliffhangers?

The earlier episodes featuring very minor characters seem to be one offs and we haven’t seen Ally since the first few eps.

Did they have problems getting Connie Britton and other actors to be available for the full season?

Did they cut down Nelson’s scenes until the last 2 episodes as punishment?

It’s difficult to look at the show the same way after the news on how it came to be canceled.

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54 minutes ago, scrb said:

Some interesting strands but they’re com8ng up with it late in the season.  We’re they going to use as cliffhangers?

The earlier episodes featuring very minor characters seem to be one offs and we haven’t seen Ally since the first few eps.

Did they have problems getting Connie Britton and other actors to be available for the full season?

Did they cut down Nelson’s scenes until the last 2 episodes as punishment?

It’s difficult to look at the show the same way after the news on how it came to be canceled.

It's too bad they couldn't resolve the differences.  I still don't understand how anyone could have forced the actress to do a sex scene.   I would have thought she would call her agent and let him fight it out on her behalf.  Isn't that what they get paid to do?

Rosie Odonnell looks so much better than what's her name who played the mother.  I forget her name but that plastic surgery ages a woman.  

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Was this the last episode?

ok, I think the character Ally was good for the show. She was a lot of fun to watch. I hate hearing about Ally but not watching her in any of the scenes.

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 I really thought Rosie’s mate (Joe?) was going to tell her where he hid a stack of cash for her. Then she was going to use this money to buy her house.

I was so disappointed this was not the case.

I wanted Tutu to get her happy ending.

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2 hours ago, Lemons said:

It's too bad they couldn't resolve the differences.  I still don't understand how anyone could have forced the actress to do a sex scene.   I would have thought she would call her agent and let him fight it out on her behalf.  Isn't that what they get paid to do?

Rosie Odonnell looks so much better than what's her name who played the mother.  I forget her name but that plastic surgery ages a woman.  

I think that was Melanie Griffith.  She ruined her looks ages ago with the plastic surgery and fillers.  Same as Laura Flynn Boyle. They were probably using the same guy that disfigured Priscilla Presley. He was getting around the BH A’ list crowd using illegal substances to inject their faces. Same stuff that ruined Lisa Rinna’s lips.

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2 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

Was this the last episode?

No, there are two more episodes left.

5 hours ago, Lemons said:

Rosie Odonnell looks so much better than what's her name who played the mother.  I forget her name but that plastic surgery ages a woman.  

2 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

I think that was Melanie Griffith.  She ruined her looks ages ago with the plastic surgery and fillers. 

Yes, it was Melanie Griffith. She was listed in the credits. The only good thing Enid did was tell Nelson that she didn't have to marry Rafi, but in a supportive way (as opposed to a "he's not good enough for you so don't marry that loser!" kind of way).

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9 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

Was this the last episode?

ok, I think the character Ally was good for the show. She was a lot of fun to watch. I hate hearing about Ally but not watching her in any of the scenes.

I want to add.

 I really thought Rosie’s mate (Joe?) was going to tell her where he hid a stack of cash for her. Then she was going to use this money to buy her house.

I was so disappointed this was not the case.

I wanted Tutu to get her happy ending.

I thought it was going to be the deed to the house!

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13 minutes ago, Lemons said:

I thought it was going to be the deed to the house!

Yea, maybe something like this was coming in future episodes...... but they had to give Tutu meatier storyline in the meantime.

We will never know. SMILF is 86! 😢

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On 3/18/2019 at 1:39 AM, Lemons said:

It's too bad they couldn't resolve the differences.  I still don't understand how anyone could have forced the actress to do a sex scene.   I would have thought she would call her agent and let him fight it out on her behalf.  Isn't that what they get paid to do?

Rosie Odonnell looks so much better than what's her name who played the mother.  I forget her name but that plastic surgery ages a woman.  

rosie is the best thing about this show, i hope she gets another sitcom soon. the actress is melanie griffin ,grifitth, whatever who cars. she looks like shit. 

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On 3/18/2019 at 1:43 PM, Lemons said:

I thought it was going to be the deed to the house!

i thought it was a copy of a new will. tutu is fucked. she said she wasn't going to leave the house. well, she will be thrown out physically. too bad her lover didn't care enough to provide for her when he knew he was going to die.

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Just watched the series finale. I wish instead of the filler episodes we'd gotten the storylines that were introduced in this episode at the start of the season. Would have made the season a lot better over all and maybe kept some viewers around. Oh well. 

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29 minutes ago, jamfly said:

Just watched the series finale. I wish instead of the filler episodes we'd gotten the storylines that were introduced in this episode at the start of the season. Would have made the season a lot better over all and maybe kept some viewers around. Oh well. 

Just watched it too and I agree.  I only watched about 5 minutes of the last episode because I hate Westerns and fantasy episodes when it’s not a fantasy show.  I would have loved seeing them in Ireland. 

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Eliza: What did [Rafi's] kiss taste like? Irresponsibleness? Unemployment? Delinquency?

Bridgette: You know what this is about actually? This is about family.
Eliza: Yeah, staying together for the kid is a unique concept that works out every time.

Eliza: You're like the white girl in a scary movie who goes down to the basement and she's like, "Hello? Is anyone there?" instead of just getting the fuck out of the house.

Old guy: Are you a nurse?
Eliza: Am I a nurse?
Old guy: Yeah.
Eliza: Do I look like a nurse?
Old guy: You don't look like a doctor.
Eliza: What does a doctor look like?
Old guy: I don't know. White coat, maybe a stethoscope.
Eliza: So it's the gold chains? That's why you don't think I'm a doctor?
Old guy: Yeah, I mean, you look more like an undercover cop trying to bust up a drug deal.
Eliza: That's what I look like?
Old: Well, you could pass for one.
Eliza: You really opened up my eyes today. This was enlightening. Thank you.
Old guy: You're welcome.
Eliza: Well, I am going to be a doctor.
Old guy: I'm going to be the president of the United States.

Jackie: I hate it when people poop in my house.
Tutu: I hope he uses some Renuzit in there.

Bridgette: It is Larry's fucking birthday and you're up here wearing a pink cat sweater on pills.

Tutu: Always leave a door open because you never know when you'll have to escape.

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I knew that everyone was in a bad place when Rafi told Bridgette (1) that eventually they would end up back together because (2) eventually Nelson would leave him for a rich athlete. If you believe either of those things, YOU SHOULD NOT MARRY NELSON. And even worse, then he followed that up by

Larry just gets cuter every week. He was adorable in his Paw Patrol costume.

Bridgette was really nice about Nelson's pregnancy news. She was clearly shocked at first but she recovered well and I loved that she was practical about it. She asked if Rafi knew and then she said that all that mattered was that Nelson take care of herself and the baby and that she would help her.

But the fact that she immediately knew Rafi was using because he was freaked out by the pregnancy says a lot about her relationship with Rafi as well as Nelson's relationship with Rafi. Bridgette has known him as a user and Nelson does not. I mean, in theory it's a good thing that Nelson didn't have to go through that with him but it also means that she doesn't know how to deal with the addict part of him (and part of him will ALWAYS be an addict). Tutu recognized it pretty quickly.

I know he was high, but I still rolled my eyes when Rafi said he was going to set up the karaoke machiine. All you have to do is plug in the power cord and plug in the microphone. DONE.

I felt bad that Bridgette had to be the one to do the intervention, but again, she is one who knows him. It does not bode well for his marriage that Nelson just stood there and didn't say anything. If you are going to make a lifelong commitment to an addict, you are probably going to have to confront him about his addiction at some point.

Rafi's argument that he can't be away from pregnant Nelson and Larry to go to rehab is just bull shit. He shouldn't be around Larry if he's not sober. As far as Nelson is concerned, it's better for him to go to rehab now - BEFORE the baby is born. It's not going to be good for Nelson o the baby if he waits until things get really bad and then has to go to rehab when Nelson is struggling to take care of a newborn. Nelson is going to have to learn how to deal with his lies ("I threw away all the pills!" - yeah right, that's why he was ransacking Tutu's bathroom trying to find more pills to take).

My favorite thing about the last scene was that when Tutu told Bridgette she'd had a kid when she was 16 and given her up for adoption, Bridgette's immediate reaction was to be supportive and excited that she had a sister. No guilt trip, no slut shaming, no "how could you keep this a secret from me my whole life?"

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10 hours ago, jamfly said:

Just watched the series finale. I wish instead of the filler episodes we'd gotten the storylines that were introduced in this episode at the start of the season. Would have made the season a lot better over all and maybe kept some viewers around. Oh well. 

I didn't mind one or two of the filler episodes but now given this ending, maybe they were flailing with where to take the series.

I guess I wasn't paying too close attention because Rafi having drug problems seems out of left field.  They probably mentioned it earlier, maybe in the flashback where she gives birth to Larry?

But the season as whole seems disjointed.  The filler episodes didn't help but the Nelson-Rafi-Bridget drama seems tacked on at the end.  Knowing what we know now about how there were problems between Frankie Shaw and the actress playing Nelson, it seemed like they cut her role back or just threw some scenes in the last episodes.

Yeah they have joint custody and Bridget needs help with day care/babysitting.  But she is way too much up in her ex's business, unless she really wants him back.

So if the series continued, what would they have done, more of the triangle and then Bridget and Tutu talk about going to NY?  She thinks she would be a real person or whatever words she used.  First season she was trying to get into the WNBA but this season, it's not clear what her dream job would be.  Does she plan to go back to school or know people who might help her get her foot in somewhere?

Series started out about a young single mother struggling but she didn't really seem to have aspirations or any kind of plan.  I don't think the WNBA was a good plan because even if she made it, it's not huge money.  The fact is, women basketball players can make more money overseas in Russia and other countries.  Some of them actually play year round in the WNBA and various leagues around the world to make a decent living.

So there were some good moments and good standalone episodes but why would people root for Bridget?  First season, she fucked Ali's son and this season, she stole from Ali.  Then she's trying to straighten out someone else?  

Maybe if she showed ANY hint of gettin her own shit together ...

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7 hours ago, scrb said:

I guess I wasn't paying too close attention because Rafi having drug problems seems out of left field.  They probably mentioned it earlier, maybe in the flashback where she gives birth to Larry?

6 hours ago, Wavy said:

I remember an episode where Rafi told Bridg he graduated from a sober house.  Guess it was last season. 

Yes, at the beginning of S1, Rafi was freshly out of the sober house which is partly why Bridgette was so reluctant to let Rafi have much unsupervised responsibility with Larry at the time (in addition to the fact that he hadn’t paid any child support).

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Yeah they have joint custody and Bridget needs help with day care/babysitting.  

As far as I remember, they don’t have a legal custody agreement so the onus of childcare is on Bridgette and Rafi “helps” when he can. It wasn’t until recently (at some point in S2) that they agreed on a regular schedule for Rafi to have Larry and even that was not 50% of the time. I’d like to add that it shouldn’t be considered babysitting when it’s your own child so Rafi isn’t babysitting. He’s taking some responsibility for his kid. 

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Well!  That is it?  Two homeless women and a kid going somewhere to look for their daughter and sister given up for Adoption????  LMAO

What a junk season this was. I liked Bridget’s BFF, Ali and the.....were they Haitian or Jamaican girls???    Cannot remember.

They should have left it at that.  Too much Nelson and seeing that relationship we all knew would go nowhere.

of course, Tutu.....not enough Tutu. 

This season was a mess.  Wonder if some of the better writers and staff quit.....???

Obviously, some major junk went down with the real staff.

Did y’all notice they dropped the SMILF finale episode around 5:00 PM?  This is when it showed up on my DVR.

 Now, it is on You Tube.  

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On 3/31/2019 at 2:30 AM, Lemons said:

Just watched it too and I agree.  I only watched about 5 minutes of the last episode because I hate Westerns and fantasy episodes when it’s not a fantasy show.  I would have loved seeing them in Ireland. 

I tried to watch that episode and could never finish it.  It sucked! 

Looks like a lot of people didn’t like it.

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Alex Brightman, who played Jesse in the very first episode, has been nominated for a Tony!

Best Leading Actor in a Musical
Brooks Ashmanskas, The Prom
Derrick Baskin, Ain't Too Proud
Alex Brightman, Beetlejuice
Damon Daunno, Oklahoma!
Santino Fontana, Tootsie

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