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S06.E11: Where Truth Lies

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Eric faces his distraught daughters; Steven surprises Olga; Kalani's big news upsets her sister; Fernanda writes Jonathan a shocking letter; Ashley and Jay run away to Vegas; Larissa reconnects with Colt's mom.

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Steven's confession sure explained a lot about his shady behaviour and evasive answers regarding her supposed visa application.  I understand his reasoning but surely that should have been disclosed to Olga from the start, a lot of immaturity on his part.  She is far too trusting and forgiving toward him.

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This was the trainwreckiest of train-wreck episodes. I need just one couple to be happy. They're all hurtling down the track heading for a derailment. 

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Steven, the US Embassy has rules. You can't just take your child and go back to the US.  Both you and Olga should have visited the Embassy so that everyone is in the same book and same chapter and same page. I hope that the proposal was sincere and not a diversion for you. Go back to the US, have a long talk with your guardians, tell them how shabbily you behaved (i.e. being scummier than scum and filled with rage and control) and that you are turning in to your father, and you don't want to go down that road. Richie is not just your son. Olga comes with that package and she is a real person who deserves respect and honesty from you. Otherwise, Richie will stay in Russia, Olga will find a loving stepfather, and you will not see him for a long time.

The K family - Kalani, Kolini et al. Kolini, you are not the baby daddy. Let your sister live her life, let her make her mistakes, let her fall for the wrong guy, etc. etc. Support her if you wish, but back off. There is way too much codependence happening. Reminds me of a former Russian coworker - she, her sister, and mother all seemed to function as one unit. Asuelu will eventually clue in that life in America is different, there are no coconut trees for him to climb, he can't entertain at a resort unless it's in Vegas, and that he will have to get some marketable skills and get a job to provide for his kids. Whether or not Kalani will be his wife is to be determined. And Kalani, you will need to find a job. I didn't get Kalani wearing the weird bridal outfit at her shower. Granted, under her circumstance, dinner out with friends should have been enough. Not every event needs alcohol. Could have been a booze-free night for all.

Jay, have you met Luis? You are 20 years old, you don't want to get committed or married yet. So tell that to Ashley. Leave and let her find someone who will step up and marry her. Finding another woman or looking for dates one week after you got married? Why bother? Discuss an open marriage with your new 'wife'. You disrespected yourself first and foremost, you disrespected your wife. She did a lot to get you to the US and this is the thanks. Chances are you have many other women on speed-dial.  Ashley, why did you spend the money on the dress, the hair, the makeup, etc. to get married by an Elvis impersonator.  Better to cancel the engagement the third time than to end up with Jay. He wasn't going to be your true love and you knew that.

Leida, why aren't your eyebrows shaped? You'd think that for the wedding, you would want to look your best. A trial makeup run? You also didn't visit the hair salon to see your hair before the big day? Why are you marrying that putz? You don't respect him, you don't respect his family and kids - it's all about you and your needs and wants. He has other baggage that he is bringing in to this relationship.  You have made little to no effort to get along with his children, you berate them, you kick them out, you insist that you are Eric's only priority. Um, the kids come with the deal, as does his child support. Suck it up, Princess.

Fernanda, you are going to have to figure out what you are going to do with your time when you marry Jon. He is a realtor who works variable hours. He may have to close a house sale at 11 pm some days. He can't be at your beck and call. If you go to school, you will probably outgrow him. Writing him a letter is all nice, but it doesn't really do much. Maybe when you find a job and get something going with your days, your relationship will improve. Right now, you are the toddler to his parent. He cannot keep unconditionally giving to you.

Debbie, your true colours are even more beautiful like a rainbow. You don't want your son getting married and being pushed aside for his new wife. You like the system as it is. Larissa is just a toy for you. Coltee is your true life partner (besides your husband). Move out, and let Coltee grow up and stop being a mama's boy.

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6 minutes ago, Chickabiddy said:

I hope everyone who thought Fernanda was an immature brat and totally unready for marriage last episode is now eating crow after listening to her very mature, responsible apology letter and discussion with Jonathan. I was impressed by her ability to be humble and take one for the team for both of them. And for the record, I was impressed by Jonathan’s ability to see things from her perspective. His realization deserves a gold star, too. 🌟

Actually no, I'm not eating crow nor will I when the "apology letter" was like something straight out of middle school. In the end, she immaturely demanded that he agree to her terms of "when I say 'come to the home, I need you now' you leave, yes??" which is practically guaranteeing another epic, childish meltdown from her.

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16 minutes ago, Pondlass1 said:

I don’t understand why Leida’s wealthy family cannot come for the wedding?  

Or pay for the wedding?  Or help her financially so she does not have to depend on a man she knows briefly. 

For that matter, how is it that her “famous medical doctor father” is not able to help her land a spot in a US medical school. 

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Leida didn't visit a Sephora or a department store makeup counter. Maybe she got a deal with a trial and full-makeup for the wedding- well, probably a bumped-up price to cover both.

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1 hour ago, Kiss my mutt said:

These people are just a whole bag of stupid. 

Besides which, I'm afraid that at this point, there is no way to get a whole lot stupider because they've all hit the extreme limit.

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1 hour ago, Pondlass1 said:

I don’t understand why Leida’s wealthy family cannot come for the wedding?  

Because she is one of the maids that was working for the wealthy family. MOO

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1 hour ago, Pondlass1 said:

I don’t understand why Leida’s wealthy family cannot come for the wedding?  

Probably because they aren’t rich.

People who have money don’t brag about it. The ones who do ain’t got a dime, but want people to think they do so they will be catered to on someone else’s dime.

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2 hours ago, PityFree said:

Nothing on this earth will ever look as ridiculous as a 30-year-old mother of a seven-month-old baby standing in the bar section of an Applebee’s wearing a giant wedding veil.

don't forget to accessorize with a penis necklace! 

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2 hours ago, Pondlass1 said:

I don’t understand why Leida’s wealthy family cannot come for the wedding?  

Yeah, why did they come the beginning of the 90 days and not for the wedding? 

1 hour ago, Frozendiva said:

Leida didn't visit a Sephora or a department store makeup counter. Maybe she got a deal with a trial and full-makeup for the wedding- well, probably a bumped-up price to cover both.

The name of the salon, "Arch" was shown a few times guaranteeing them free advertising and TV exposure. 

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Do you think the reason why we didn’t see anything related to Ashely and Jays honeymoon is because they basically just did the casino scene etc and it was technically illegal?  As long as he didn’t want a players card he could pretty much gamble and she could cash out chips.  We got zero footage and they committed no funds to honeymoon locations for footage.  

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I still feel like everyone this season (more obvious than other seasons) was given a role to play.  Larissa is batshit and she was coy and manipulative at the end...until she decided to make nice with MomColtie in front of the suspiciously chatty nail techs.  come Live With Us!   Yeah right.

Even Steven seemed like he could play the role of indignant father fighting for Myson....until he lost his lines and reasoning there at the end.  Olga didn’t look like she believed he was going to leave with the baby but had to play her role and just let the hormones and general situation keep her crying.  The “out” of their storyline was her K1 Visa application.  Uh huh.

Seems suspicious since he has no money and no sponsors.  The storyline had too many holes.  

The Kalinikolonis have the worst storyline ever.  Uptalking and weeping.  

Until in comes chapped lipped Leida and her staccato nasally barking ass voice.  I doan care! I go back to Indonesia!  You half to choos!

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You KNOW a relationship is doomed when one party says “NAME is my last chance at love.”

 

Like, if your soon to be spouse said that to you, wouldn’t you be either offended or saddened by their lack of self esteem or both?

Someone who hears that and thinks “oh yeah, that’s just where I want them“ is a manipulative and possibly abusive narcissist. 

Eg: Leida 

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Oh, yea!  Family Kalani!  Get ready.  Another mouth to feed.  That makes 3 + Kalani=4.

 

How long are yall gonna allow this go on before someone gives Kalani a ride to Planned Parenthood???

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Thank goodness Olga has a Friend who is able to see through Steven.  Olga needs to keep that friend very close so she can help decipher Steven's motives...

Kept wondering where exactly Steven thinks he will leave Myson when he, presumably, goes out to work to feed Myson?  His selfishness and immaturity are breathtaking.  I am guessing the Producers had to have clued him in on how some of his actions come across because he was, no way - no how, getting there on his own.  Olga is leagues above him and he needs to get a grip and realize that soon.

Family Kalani appears to have never met Kalani.  They take everything she says at face value.  I can't get past the fact that Asuelo said she was on him constantly getting her conjugal attention from him.  There is absolutely no surprise that she is pregnant...then or now.  The only thing I can believe is that she is so repressed that she can't admit that she is into Asuelo and that she wants to be with him and continue to have family with him.  She constantly throws him under the bus and talks crap about him.  He is what he is, but she chose him, brought him here, and needs to treat him with Respect and talk respectfully about him to her family.  She is ridiculous and is doing herself no favors in polarizing her family against her husband.

Eric deserves Lieda.  

Ashley should never have tempted fate when she said she did not care if he cheated on her....well, well, well.....are we supposed to feel bad for her when she puts that out there in the universe? Also, can't Ashley get an annulment since he had no intention of making this a Real Marriage because he immediately started a Dating Profile?  Maybe she can get rid of him, and not pay for him for the next 10 years that way......the cops can come indeed.....

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3 hours ago, LilaFowler said:

Steven/Olga: he only ever talks about "my son" -- never anything about Olga. I think when he went to the US Embassy, it was to determine if he could leave the country with Ritchie without Olga's permission or knowledge. He was told no, so he proposed. He lied to her for months, what a scumbag. Olga is so vulnerable that she will cling to anything. Watching them makes me very uncomfortable.

 

First thing I said was "Somebody had a talk with that boy and set him straight."

Steven is motivated by self-interest only.   When he discovered he would be unable to light out with Richie in tow, he went straight to Plan B.

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I, too, loved Fernanda's letter, but grew suspicious of it as producer-driven when I saw Larissa use the same word "perspective" in her nail salon apology time with Debbie.  Makes me go hmmm.  I still find Coltee disturbing, but agree that after all the hysteria amongst these couples, there's something oddly reassuring about his monotone voice.  The most enthusiasm we've ever heard from him was in his response to Debbie's idea of homemade pizza.  

Good for Eric's daughters for not caving into his manipulations.  Their hair may need some help, but their mom seems to have instilled some good sense into those girls.  I hope they don't attend his wedding. Somebody should respond to Eric that when--not if--his "last chance at love" leaves him in the dust, he'll be more alone than ever with his daughters alienated from him, perhaps permanently if he continues with his treatment of them.  

I'm curious about something regarding Jay.  Why did he fret so much in front of the camera about getting married so young if he knew it was all part of a grander scheme to stay in the country and screw around-- with his poor bride on the financial hook for him?  I find this story particularly upsetting, but maybe it's just too close to home.  (Our daughter found evidence of cheating husband on his phone, and he broke her phone in response.  When he was supposedly back to faithfulness, he used MY computer--without my knowledge--where he saved his password on his Facebook page.  Later I happened upon it and saw all the women he'd been trolling on his messaging there.  When we pointed this out, he threatened to call the police on me for invasion of privacy.  So happy they're divorced now.)

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3 hours ago, hisbunkie said:

Or pay for the wedding?  Or help her financially so she does not have to depend on a man she knows briefly. 

For that matter, how is it that her “famous medical doctor father” is not able to help her land a spot in a US medical school. 

Her family might have some money, but I think they were really glad to get rid of her.  I'm sure she caused problems even within their own family and has already embarrassed them among their friends, family, and community.  The whole trip over here was to check it out for Allessandro's sake.  They hate Eric, but determined that AHLESS wasn't going to be sold for magic beans so they let Ledia have her way to get her out of their everyday lives.  I really wish they had left Ledia to her fate and taken Ahless back with them; they seemed to really love him as opposed to Ledia who just seems to grunt at him and scream obscenities in front of him (you know that's a regular occurance and that she's always mad at someone).

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5 hours ago, Pondlass1 said:

I don’t understand why Leida’s wealthy family cannot come for the wedding?  

Probably because they are so glad to be rid of her... can't imagine having a daughter like her helps the family reputation much, maybe they are afraid she might try and go home with them. 

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Don't really care about John and Fernanda at this point. Fernanda is so young and a bit naive and I find myself viewing whatever she says and does through that lens. John is a drama queen and I think he thrives on the attention of the cameras and how jealous and insecure Fernanda is. I like her but watching them gives me a headache.

I like Ashley. She seems to have a good heart but she picked a loser.

I like Larissa too. I don't think she's crazy, I just feel she has specific needs that Colter can't meet. I don't think its unreasonable to prefer not to live with your fiancée's mom but she came into this situation knowing that was on the table. She'll have to choose to learn to live with both because at this point it looks like neither of the issues are changing.

Kelani needs to grow up. I just wish Asuelo had someone in his life that could give him good advice and to recommend he run away from this judgemental and intrusive family. They will be in his business because Kalani will leave that door wide open for them to do so. He's not suited emotionally to deal with their constant blame, derision and scapegoating. I sure hope Kalani's coochWAH is worth it.

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6 hours ago, juicyfruit said:

Jay had it planned from the start. He created the Tinder account the night of the wedding and when she finds out he states that he'd like to see her make him leave now that they are married?  He totally knew she was on the hook once the papers were signed and he was free to do as he pleased. Shady with a capital S.

Which makes me wonder, could she have recourse for an annulment?  "He frauded me!"

This. I knew Ashley was trying to put on a brave face when she said she didn’t care if he cheated. I believe she very much cared and just didn’t want people to know. And now, she has actual proof that Jay is slanging his penis around so she can’t be in denial anymore. I hope she does get a divorce. He knew what he was doing by getting on the app right after the wedding.

I know one might argue that he’s 19/20 so what did Ashley expect...but I knew cheating was wrong at that age.

8 hours ago, PityFree said:

Nothing on this earth will ever look as ridiculous as a 30-year-old mother of a seven-month-old baby standing in the bar section of an Applebee’s wearing a giant wedding veil. When you are 30 and pregnant with your second child, the bachelorette party ship has sailed.

Did you miss the pink penis necklace? Was the highlight of that outfit for me.

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