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1 hour ago, CharlizeCat said:

Is this where we are supposed to go now to discuss the show, etc.?

I guess. Not easy to find, is it? Not sure why things are changing.

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I have been a longtime reader, but this is the first time that I am commenting.  It was very difficult to find this, but I am glad that I did.  I was  worried that the thread was discontinued due to pressure from Ree or her family.  I hope that this is not the case.

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I wouldn't read any conspiracy theories into why it's so hard to get to this thread. After reading more on why things are changing, all of PYV forums are moving to a new software platform, with having "Topics" rather than forums.

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I totally get what they are doing, but maybe make it a bit easier to find.  It should be pretty straightforward to have one direct link from the old page to the new one. I don't get the circular run-around.

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I'm not sure why this got "demoted" since there is pretty much daily activity on it.  But guess we can't do much about it.  Just a little harder to find it to add snark.  I am hoping we get a custom home page back to we can have easier access to our favorites.  It's really not clear right now what they are up to!

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On 12/21/2018 at 1:33 PM, barbarag said:

I was  worried that the thread was discontinued due to pressure from Ree or her family.  I hope that this is not the case.

I think it's more likely that Ree would have a royal fit to think she's been downgraded!

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I don't mind the re-org too much but it seems short sighted to condense this into one topic.  I feel like at the very least we should have kept two sub-forums, one for the show itself and one for successes and failures in trying her recipes.  I'm betting having it all in a single forum is going to get really cluttered.  Guess time will tell.

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36 minutes ago, sigmaforce86 said:

I'm betting having it all in a single forum is going to get really cluttered.  Guess time will tell.

I have to agree.  There were small talk sections that didn't reference her at all.  Guess we will have to drop those.

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It has taken ages to find this "rejuvenated" (?) version of what was before. 

Happy New Year wishes, with a buncha jalapenos and brightly coloured sprinkles scattered atop, to one and all. 

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Hi everyone. I hate this new reorganization. Reducing forums into topics is a great way to cause bloated topics with hundreds of pages and will discourage new readers or anybody who has fallen behind on a topic.

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Hi Automne! It took me forever to find this topic after the reorg. Fucking stupid. This topic always has plenty of traffic. I see a lot of topics with way less traffic being kept the way they were. 

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I wonder if there is a way to appeal this designation.  Some really old shows have little traffic but didn't get bumped.

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7 minutes ago, Kohola3 said:

I wonder if there is a way to appeal this designation.  Some really old shows have little traffic but didn't get bumped.

Agree. I'm not sure, but can we do other Pioneer Woman "topics" as I see at the top of this page where it says create new topic?

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29 minutes ago, chessiegal said:

Agree. I'm not sure, but can we do other Pioneer Woman "topics" as I see at the top of this page where it says create new topic?

I don't know because I have no idea what the new version will look like once it's launched. I think that will be the second or third week in January from what I can tell.  Let's hope.

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2 minutes ago, Kohola3 said:

I don't know because I have no idea what the new version will look like once it's launched. I think that will be the second or third week in January from what I can tell.  Let's hope.

Yeah, I was thinking to wait until we get customized home pages back to do requests for changes or try additions.

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I clicked on "Create New Topic" and it appears functional.

But ... if we create a buncha new topics, within Pioneer Woman, won't that defeat the purpose of having a topic-only forum???? I'm afraid I don't understand.

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4 minutes ago, CharlizeCat said:

But ... if we create a buncha new topics, within Pioneer Woman, won't that defeat the purpose of having a topic-only forum???? I'm afraid I don't understand.

I'm not sure anyone understands at this point.  Best to wait until the launch and we can go from there.

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 Each letter now has a generic "Other" Forum, which is where all shows that are a single topic are housed.  You can start a new Topic, but it's meant for starting a Topic for a new show that doesn't already exist, not a Topic for an existing show (one of the postings about the changes states that a new Topic should only have the show name).    

 Topic?  Has anyone seen The Pioneer Woman  prepared meals at Wal-Mart?   I don't shop there a lot so maybe they've been around for a while.  I saw bacon meatloaf, fried chicken, smothered chicken and either chicken fried steak or chicken fried chicken.   I didn't think her merchandise was a big enough seller for Wal-Mart to make them willing to branch out into food with her.   

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For what it's worth I posted a question re: an appeal process to have this upgraded to a forum and also asked about what would happen if we tried to add a new topic. I will let you know what I hear.  They are answering questions every couple of days.

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Here's some happier news ... I received a very brief email from Lura.   Some family came to visit her and her husband last month, which she enjoyed very much. Sounds like she's still recuperating, so we might not see her back here quite as soon as we hoped. I sent her detailed instructions on how to find us when she's ready. Maybe by then, things will be more sorted out here, so it will be easier to navigate the topics.  She's hanging in there, though!

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22 minutes ago, CharlizeCat said:

She's hanging in there, though!

That's great to hear and thanks for the update!

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Hello!

Thought I'd pop by with some guidance as change is always unsettling (which we fully understand). The quickest and most straightforward way to keep track of this show topic is to add it to your followed content. You can do this by clicking the bell icon to the left of the topic title up top and selecting the notification type that suits your requirements. 

Please note the re-org is still a work in progress which means that many letter categories have yet to undergo changes, this accounts for any forums that appear to not have been condensed thus far. Once the Customised Homepage (CHP) is rebuilt (eta Jan/Feb) it will use your followed content to populate your personal CHP which will make finding your selected forums/topics easy. 

Thanks.

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And here's the response I got directly from SilverStormm.  I asked about the possibility of a review as this was an active forum and about creating new topics.

A review may be requested but the likelihood is that it will stay as it is unless we missed something. That isn't the case here; the reality is 99.9% of discussion took place within only 2 topics, therefore, moving to a single topic was a logical choice.

If a forum has been condensed to a single topic no further topics will be permitted for that show. The new topic creation function is for topics for other shows.

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58 minutes ago, Kohola3 said:

And here's the response I got directly from SilverStormm.  I asked about the possibility of a review as this was an active forum and about creating new topics.

A review may be requested but the likelihood is that it will stay as it is unless we missed something. That isn't the case here; the reality is 99.9% of discussion took place within only 2 topics, therefore, moving to a single topic was a logical choice.

If a forum has been condensed to a single topic no further topics will be permitted for that show. The new topic creation function is for topics for other shows.

I find the logic slightly skewed and the number-crunching (percentage) a bit off as clearly it was an active forum.  All rather odd.   And it will create knotted knitting in terms of one "page" for comments which inevitably aren't/won't be inter-related.  Not sure I can be bothered to continue.  Which is a shame, as I have really enjoyed my short time within the PW thread: very amusing , entertaining AND enlightening exchanges. And, most importantly, some lovely people contributing!

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2 hours ago, Kohola3 said:

And here's the response I got directly from SilverStormm.  I asked about the possibility of a review as this was an active forum and about creating new topics.

A review may be requested but the likelihood is that it will stay as it is unless we missed something. That isn't the case here; the reality is 99.9% of discussion took place within only 2 topics, therefore, moving to a single topic was a logical choice.

If a forum has been condensed to a single topic no further topics will be permitted for that show. The new topic creation function is for topics for other shows.

I call BS on this explanation. If they are trying to ruin a good site to discuss TV shows and reduce traffic, they're doing a damn good job. I can't even find a thread for Frasier today.

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29 minutes ago, chessiegal said:

I call BS on this explanation. If they are trying to ruin a good site to discuss TV shows and reduce traffic, they're doing a damn good job. I can't even find a thread for Frasier today.

Go to the F topic, you will see the F vault. It's in there. I just posted.

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13 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Go to the F topic, you will see the F vault. It's in there. I just posted.

Thanks. I didn't know you could post in vaulted shows.

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3 minutes ago, chessiegal said:

Thanks. I didn't know you could post in vaulted shows.

Yep, some are read only.

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4 hours ago, Mandolia said:

I find the logic slightly skewed and the number-crunching (percentage) a bit off as clearly it was an active forum.  All rather odd.   And it will create knotted knitting in terms of one "page" for comments which inevitably aren't/won't be inter-related.  Not sure I can be bothered to continue.  Which is a shame, as I have really enjoyed my short time within the PW thread: very amusing , entertaining AND enlightening exchanges. And, most importantly, some lovely people contributing!

 

Please stay. I so enjoy your posts and your view of a US cooking show. I've been to London twice, first time in 2016, then again in 2017. I enjoyed the FN UK channel. I enjoy Jamie Oliver. Nigella Lawson has a show on our PBS stations, and I'm wondering how people in the UK view her. We're planning on going back to London this September.

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I agree with chessiegal. I hope that nobody leaves this forum.  It's just another transition phase. We got through the migration from TWoP to here, so we can get through a reorganization!

Part of the problem with the previous forum was that Ree-diculous more or less stopped producing new content for shows. The shows were either ree-peats or mash-up segments from shows we'd already seen.  There really wasn't much to discuss in the program thread.  IF there was a new show, the recipes were so similar to her others, that again, there was nothing much to talk about.

Hang in there, mates!

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1 hour ago, CharlizeCat said:

Hang in there, mates!

Yep, once the dust settles we will be fine.  Just need to be patient.

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 I thought it was odd her holidays shows this year were just clips from prior seasons.   I also noticed her becoming more of a FN "personality" in the last year, as in popping up on Food Network Star, The Kitchen, judging the cookie show, etc.   She used to be like Trisha and pretty much just doing her own show, rarely doing the FN celebrity rounds (exceptions like the awesomely disastrous Thanksgiving Live notwithstanding).   With her kids getting older and The Merc done, I guess she doesn't have much to build her shows around and is forced to stoop to schlepping from FN show to FN show like the other stars to keep relevant.  

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8 hours ago, chessiegal said:

Please stay. I so enjoy your posts and your view of a US cooking show. I've been to London twice, first time in 2016, then again in 2017. I enjoyed the FN UK channel. I enjoy Jamie Oliver. Nigella Lawson has a show on our PBS stations, and I'm wondering how people in the UK view her. We're planning on going back to London this September.

Sweet of you to say that, Chessiegal -thank you!  My "retirement" from commenting has been put on the back burner, at a slow simmer!!

The FN UK channel is quite a mishmash of progs both UK-based and also (which is how I first encountered both Ina and PW) shows from the States.  And there are a lot of repeats and only the vaguest chance that you get to see things in the proper sequence; with something like Diners, Drive Ins & Dives (which comes on for hours on Sunday afternoons here), that doesn't matter a jot.  Jamie Oliver can be really good - his 15 minute meals, in particular, tho' it takes A Real Person in A Normal Kitchen a bit longer to achieve what he does within the time, unless you spend more than a moment or two assembling everything before the stopwatch countdown begins.

Nigella (like Delia Smith, she's become known just by her first name) is one of those people who is either loved or loathed, with no grey area in between.  She has become a slight caricature of herself on the BBC shows she does - perhaps it's by design?  But I love her books: she writes so beautifully and the chatty narrative prefacing a recipe is informative and interesting.  Main plus is she freely admits that she's not a chef or a trained cook, and simply loves to eat (which is rather refreshing!).  Equally refreshing is her admission that her recipes are her take on something familiar...huge mutterings when she added a slug of vermouth to spaghetti carbonara was one instance of "purists" getting hot under the collar (silly people: taking pasta, eggs, bacon & cheese so seriously).  

I don't know whether you are able to access BBC progs generally on the PBS stations?  I love any programme that features Rick Stein.  He has done loads of wonderful travelogue series, all over the world, inc India (where the difference in food because of culture, climate & therefore ingredients, etc differs vastly from the north of the subcontinent right town to the southern-most point) and also the US.   His "Venice to Istanbul" food adventure was so interesting - a bit of history, lots of food and altogether really engaging.  He is articulate and has such an infectious enthusiasm for all that he encounters but isn't afraid to pull a face at something ghastly.  And when he creates his own version of something it's not terrifyingly complicated and one does think I could do that (in fairness to Jamie Oliver and others, they have done travelogue-type programmes as well which have been interesting, BUT Rick Stein is my favourite because of the rather endearing quality he brings to the screen...as well as the food!).

How lovely to have your September trip to London to look forward to.  There is so much to do and see. 

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9 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

I agree with chessiegal. I hope that nobody leaves this forum.  It's just another transition phase. We got through the migration from TWoP to here, so we can get through a reorganization!

Part of the problem with the previous forum was that Ree-diculous more or less stopped producing new content for shows. The shows were either ree-peats or mash-up segments from shows we'd already seen.  There really wasn't much to discuss in the program thread.  IF there was a new show, the recipes were so similar to her others, that again, there was nothing much to talk about.

Hang in there, mates!

You're right, of course!  There is very little "new" - ree-peats of ree-peats and ree-hashes of things seen before.  And, on the odd occasion that a new episode pops up here in the UK, it's either PW's Best Bits (?) or another way of throwing together the same old, same old ingredients and the end result is only vaguely dissimilar to what has been cooked up by the rancher's wife at least one hundred times before.

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On ‎1‎/‎3‎/‎2019 at 3:51 AM, Mandolia said:

Sweet of you to say that, Chessiegal -thank you!  My "retirement" from commenting has been put on the back burner, at a slow simmer!!

The site reconfiguration is confusing. I hadn't watched PW for weeks, Sorting through my DVR I found mostly repeats or retreaded old programs -- Don't have to watch that dreck again.

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The FN UK channel is quite a mishmash of progs both UK-based and also (which is how I first encountered both Ina and PW) shows from the States.  And there are a lot of repeats and only the vaguest chance that you get to see things in the proper sequence; with something like Diners, Drive Ins & Dives (which comes on for hours on Sunday afternoons here), that doesn't matter a jot.  Jamie Oliver can be really good - his 15 minute meals, in particular, tho' it takes A Real Person in A Normal Kitchen a bit longer to achieve what he does within the time, unless you spend more than a moment or two assembling everything before the stopwatch countdown begins.

I scanned the FN UK schedule and saw Jamie Oliver programs -- I've been a fan of his food mission and cookbooks for a long time. I saw him at a book promotion where he made appetizers and a salad -- He was exuberant and charming, and the food was simple and delicious. I really admire his school dinner campaign, and ABC used to broadcast Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution, a program about reforming US school lunch programs, fighting childhood obesity and changing eating habits with delicious, easy to prepare meals.

Our local school district has a Mother's Campaign, inspired to change the lunch program to healthier food options for all students because of Jamie Oliver's work. They use locally grown produce and whole grains cooked at the school, got rid of 4 of 10 pop machines, and had water and juice take up half of the pop offerings, extended Physical Education classes for all ages with dance and yoga, and Health/Home Economics course curriculums changed to add more class time on nutrition.

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Nigella (like Delia Smith, she's become known just by her first name) is one of those people who is either loved or loathed, with no grey area in between.  She has become a slight caricature of herself on the BBC shows she does - perhaps it's by design?  But I love her books: she writes so beautifully and the chatty narrative prefacing a recipe is informative and interesting.  Main plus is she freely admits that she's not a chef or a trained cook, and simply loves to eat (which is rather refreshing!).  Equally refreshing is her admission that her recipes are her take on something familiar...huge mutterings when she added a slug of vermouth to spaghetti carbonara was one instance of "purists" getting hot under the collar (silly people: taking pasta, eggs, bacon & cheese so seriously). 

I like her cookbooks and don't have a problem with taking a classic recipe and changing it for the better, but it's hit or miss for me with Nigella's programs. She has a show broadcasting on PBS, Nigella: at My Table. Her knife skills have actually deteriorated, and it's handful this, pinch of that, abusing beautifully whipped egg whites, teaspoon measures that are either heaping or half full … Everything she tells you not to do, in order to make a successful recipe, she's demonstrating on Show. She's chatty and self-deprecating, so she get's ahead of her critics -- Gaaa! I want to love everything she doing because it's beautifully photographed and presented, looking so luxurious, but Nigella exhausts me with her imprecision. Sometimes I think her carelessness is calculation to show the viewer "See, I'm a bit haphazard, but I made this gorgeous Pavlova with berries. And so can you!" 

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I don't know whether you are able to access BBC progs generally on the PBS stations?  I love any programme that features Rick Stein.  He has done loads of wonderful travelogue series, all over the world, inc India (where the difference in food because of culture, climate & therefore ingredients, etc differs vastly from the north of the subcontinent right town to the southern-most point) and also the US.   His "Venice to Istanbul" food adventure was so interesting - a bit of history, lots of food and altogether really engaging.  He is articulate and has such an infectious enthusiasm for all that he encounters but isn't afraid to pull a face at something ghastly.  And when he creates his own version of something it's not terrifyingly complicated and one does think I could do that.  (in fairness to Jamie Oliver and others, they have done travelogue-type programmes as well which have been interesting, BUT Rick Stein is my favourite because of the rather endearing quality he brings to the screen...as well as the food!).

I've enjoyed his India travel shows -- I watch a lot of street food videos on YouTube, and India looks like an amazing place to visit! -- and use recipes from Rick Stein's Spanish recipe book. We receive BBC 1, 2, 4 on satellite. BBC 3 comes in only on occasion. The nature and travel programming is stellar, some of the comedies are very funny and skewed in a way I appreciate. BBC News is simply the best news broadcasting there is; their reach is world wide and they show the viewer the news more than they tell -- And their diction is impeccable. 

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How lovely to have your September trip to London to look forward to.  There is so much to do and see. 

London in September sounds delightful, chessiegal. 

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8 minutes ago, Cupid Stunt said:

London in September sounds delightful, chessiegal. 

We've taken the Queen Mary 2 across the pond the last 3 years., I hate to fly, so this gets me to Europe without jet lag. My husband wants to go to Spain this year, and we're taking Rick Steves advice of not going south of the Alps in summer. We have friends who moved to London 2 years ago, and are looking forward to visiting with them.

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Thanks for the heads up about Nigella's show. I checked and my local PBS station carries it on Sundays. I like Nigella. I was introduced when Food Network offered "Express," a L-O-N-G time ago. I had mostly read negative things about Nigella, so I expected this bosomy air-head and a show along the lines of I guess, "Pioneer Woman" or one of the celebrity star shows. I was pleasantly surprised.  I watched all of the shows on FN and The Cooking Channel until the repeats ran into the ground. I enjoy Nigella's writing style and she also has a way with the spoken word. 

I rather liked her messy pantry and slap-dash approach to measuring, etc. I really didn't think she was purposely trying to "dumb herself down." I think it was more of trying to convey that she was a working mother with kids and that she (and the viewer) could make great tasting meals without having to go overboard on the preparation. 

I kind of got lost with her with the Italian series. I didn't enjoy that as much and was completely disappointed by her on "The Taste," which was a terrible enough show, but her performance as a coach was pretty bad. 

I will give the new series a watch and see if it something that I would like to continue following. Heaven knows, there is little else satisfactory on in the way of instructive cooking shows.

The Google Fiber BBC only has a news show and another station that shows repeats of American programs ??? 

Netflix only offers GBBO, which I have grown quite fond of. 

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Still getting used to the new format, but... still here to snark about PW.   Today was new show about healthy-ish dishes.  The burgers are a NO as I don't like mushrooms enough to use portabello caps as a burger bun.  The only thing I perked up at was the "ice cream" she made with frozen fruit, greek yogurt and a little cream.  I could see myself making that as a light substitute for real ice cream.

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4 minutes ago, patty1h said:

Still getting used to the new format, but...

The good news is that this is only temporary.  The projection is another month or so and we'll have our customized home page back.  Not happy about this being downgraded but as others have said, she's pretty much recycling things she's already done umpteen times.

I'm not sure you can call a big old slab of burger particularly healthy no matter what you wrap around it!

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18 hours ago, Kohola3 said:

The good news is that this is only temporary.  The projection is another month or so and we'll have our customized home page back.  Not happy about this being downgraded but as others have said, she's pretty much recycling things she's already done umpteen times.

I'm not sure you can call a big old slab of burger particularly healthy no matter what you wrap around it!

I have seen Ina grill a portabello , I think and use that as the burger rather than the bun.

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I saw that episode and wondered how you'd hold/eat that. The portabellos looked rather slimy.  And, yeah ... I had always heard to use the portabello was the substitute for the actual meat.  I already forgot what else Ree made.  I really didn't care for her smug attitude about food choices and healthy eating. I get that she was trying to say that it makes more sense and is easier to stick to a plan that introduced small gradual changes instead of immediate deprivation. It was just her borderline disdainful way of expressing herself. 

I watched some random cold case show on Oxygen last evening that was set in Pawhuska/Osage County.  There were some quick shots of the downtown, which looked pretty old and bleak. It also looked a lot more "rural" than what Ree portrays. Even though she says she is "out in the middle of nowhere," the parts of the town she shows look more contemporary.  Grim story. The police detective and D.A. seemed like nice people and not total rubes as you might think.  Nor did they come across as the hard-core "dicks."

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