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1 hour ago, Lakebum said:

Still no. And to put an end to your argument: I'm from the South (born, raised and still live in Alabama) and I'm a herpetologist. (Herpetology is the study of reptiles and amphibians.) I spent years in the Snake removal business. And now I'm part of an online Snake-identification organization... and an awful lot of our time is spent refuting those ridiculous rhymes, and showing pictorial evidence of our explanations. 

In short, head shape is the WORST identifier one can use, in part -- but note solely -- because most snakes can and do change the shape of their heads to make themselves look more intimidating.

 

My canadian ass has a rhyme for wild snakes.

 

It’s a snake. Being near it would be a mistake.

If there’s a head, you might end up dead.

 

Checkmate, people who didn’t have to google venomous snakes in their country.

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On 11/19/2018 at 10:06 PM, Colorado David said:

Daryl is a resourceful guy, i can't believe he can't come up with a better place to live than just an open campsite. I'd figure he have an elaborate treehouse setup by now,

Well, he certainly looks as though he's been living in a tree for the last six years.

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19 hours ago, Lakebum said:

Still no. And to put an end to your argument: I'm from the South (born, raised and still live in Alabama) and I'm a herpetologist. (Herpetology is the study of reptiles and amphibians.) I spent years in the Snake removal business. And now I'm part of an online Snake-identification organization... and an awful lot of our time is spent refuting those ridiculous rhymes, and showing pictorial evidence of our explanations. 

In short, head shape is the WORST identifier one can use, in part -- but note solely -- because most snakes can and do change the shape of their heads to make themselves look more intimidating.

SCIENCE, BITCH!  [/Jesse Pinkman]  ;-)

18 hours ago, amazinglybored said:

 

My canadian ass has a rhyme for wild snakes.

 

It’s a snake. Being near it would be a mistake.

If there’s a head, you might end up dead.

 

Checkmate, people who didn’t have to google venomous snakes in their country.

I grew up in Canada, but my Australian stepdad killed every damned snake he saw.  Poor little garter snakes!  :-(

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On 11/23/2018 at 8:35 PM, Lakebum said:

Still no. And to put an end to your argument: I'm from the South (born, raised and still live in Alabama) and I'm a herpetologist. (Herpetology is the study of reptiles and amphibians.) I spent years in the Snake removal business. And now I'm part of an online Snake-identification organization... and an awful lot of our time is spent refuting those ridiculous rhymes, and showing pictorial evidence of our explanations. 

In short, head shape is the WORST identifier one can use, in part -- but note solely -- because most snakes can and do change the shape of their heads to make themselves look more intimidating.

Whatever you say, bud; my family’s only been staying alive in the Tennessee backwoods since before Tennessee was a state, so who are we to argue with your schooling?  I will say, though - if you’re waiting around until the snake is already being “intimidating” before trying to figure out what kind it is, then you’re probably already kinda fucked.  :)

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On 11/20/2018 at 7:32 PM, Nashville said:

That’s been bugging the hell outta me.  Bikes don’t need to be fed or watered, they require minuscule maintenance, they don’t get scared and toss you into a busted-ass pile of broken concrete and rebar - ever - and walkers don’t eat them.

I just think a horse would be an enormous liability both to keep fed and healthy, and when you get surrounded.  Plus it looks dumb, like little house on the Mad MX prairie.

Alexandria looks like a planned community where people had electric golf carts.  You can turn a bycyle into a moped with a small motor and minimal fuel. 

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On 11/23/2018 at 9:35 PM, Lakebum said:

Still no. And to put an end to your argument: I'm from the South (born, raised and still live in Alabama) and I'm a herpetologist. (Herpetology is the study of reptiles and amphibians.) I spent years in the Snake removal business. And now I'm part of an online Snake-identification organization... and an awful lot of our time is spent refuting those ridiculous rhymes, and showing pictorial evidence of our explanations. 

In short, head shape is the WORST identifier one can use, in part -- but note solely -- because most snakes can and do change the shape of their heads to make themselves look more intimidating.

 Virginia should have the three pit vipers. Do they have Coral snake?.  I don’t think they occur that far north.  So to open a new “argument “, are timber rattlers, copperheads, or cottonmouths aboreal?    To argue further, I don’t need no head to tell you that wasn’t a heavy bodied cottonmouth, or a fairly brightly marked copperhead, or whatever small ass rattlesnake they have in Virginia. 

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2 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

I just think a horse would be an enormous liability both to keep fed and healthy

You mean, you've missed looking for the fields of oats that are designated to keep the horses looking as well muscled as they do?  

I'm looking for the pig pens and smoke houses.  And my bullets would have been saved to take down wild boar hogs (and my CG $$ to 'film' a hoard of Walkers attacked by three boar hogs).  

Where I'd have directed the show to go is toward survival in the real land and opposed to surviving with viewership of the desired age demographic.

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18 hours ago, walnutqueen said:

I grew up in Canada, but my Australian stepdad killed every damned snake he saw.  Poor little garter snakes!  :-(

Having come across an Eastern Brown and a Sydney Funnelweb on my Australian travels, I can recommend the ‘Englishman’s’ response to such things, scream loudly and run away quickly! 

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16 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

 Virginia should have the three pit vipers. Do they have Coral snake?.  I don’t think they occur that far north.  So to open a new “argument “, are timber rattlers, copperheads, or cottonmouths aboreal?    To argue further, I don’t need no head to tell you that wasn’t a heavy bodied cottonmouth, or a fairly brightly marked copperhead, or whatever small ass rattlesnake they have in Virginia. 

Arboreal? No. CAN they climb? Yes. 

18 hours ago, Nashville said:

Whatever you say, bud; my family’s only been staying alive in the Tennessee backwoods since before Tennessee was a state, so who are we to argue with your schooling?  I will say, though - if you’re waiting around until the snake is already being “intimidating” before trying to figure out what kind it is, then you’re probably already kinda fucked.  :)

Unless you know enough about snakes that you don't need to see the head at all. Or better yet, know that head shape isn't going to help as much as some people think it is.

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2 hours ago, Lakebum said:

Unless you know enough about snakes that you don't need to see the head at all. Or better yet, know that head shape isn't going to help as much as some people think it is.

Who ever said a snake’s head shape was the ONLY way to tell whether it was venomous or not???  I only mentioned a reference to it as one way.  

In any case, I think the bones are starting to show through the carcass of this poor dead horse - and that metaphor is a little too apt in TWDLand. 

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13 hours ago, Nashville said:

Who ever said a snake’s head shape was the ONLY way to tell whether it was venomous or not???  I only mentioned a reference to it as one way.  

In any case, I think the bones are starting to show through the carcass of this poor dead horse - and that metaphor is a little too apt in TWDLand. 

Well, I’m 100% sure it weren’t no darned mud snake nohow.

we had an eastern diamond back in the backyard.  No way to mistake those things for anything else.  Anyway, I see them in the scrub often.  Cottonmouths, lots of those obstinate bastards.  

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7 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

we had an eastern diamond back in the backyard.  No way to mistake those things for anything else.  Anyway, I see them in the scrub often.  Cottonmouths, lots of those obstinate bastards.  

Rattlesnakes and copperheads I’ve rarely had a major issue with; generally speaking, they’re not a problem so long as you don’t surprise them or box them in.  Make enough noise when you’re walking through the woods to let them know you’re coming, and they’ll just go somewhere else.  I can appreciate a good live-and-let-live attitude.  :)

Cottonmouths, though...?  Those fuckers are crazy - the wasps of the snake world.  I’ve been fishing or kayaking, and had them swim off the bank and try to bite my paddle.  When I was younger, never knew I could dance until one dropped out of a tree limb sticking out over the water and fell in my boat.  THAT was one of the more intense 30-second periods of my life.  ;>

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On 11/27/2018 at 2:44 AM, Nashville said:

one dropped out of a tree limb sticking out over the water and fell in my boat.

Boating friends in New Orleans talked about parts of the swamps where you had to keep to the very center of the canals because Cottonmouths were so thick up in the cypress trees you could almost smell them.  Up here in Tennessee, neighbors talked about abandoned quarries you could only go in in coldest winter because there were so many "cottonboys" there.

So, why didn't we see a cottonboy/walking dead encounter in that big quarry?  

Just as the wild hog population would surge, so would the snakes.  

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It’s funny, because I’ve never seen an aggressive cottonmouth.  Mostly they just stand their ground and won’t retreat.   I even stepped over one leaving work one night, and it just ignored me.  There was a swamp next to my building, and I used to spend my breaks walking around the parking lot and wrangling little ones with my monopod so people wouldn’t run them over.  Just hooked them and flicked them into the water.  

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5 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

It’s funny, because I’ve never seen an aggressive cottonmouth.  Mostly they just stand their ground and won’t retreat.   I even stepped over one leaving work one night, and it just ignored me.  There was a swamp next to my building, and I used to spend my breaks walking around the parking lot and wrangling little ones with my monopod so people wouldn’t run them over.  Just hooked them and flicked them into the water.  

@Mu Shu - lucky you.  :)

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On 11/25/2018 at 11:47 AM, enoughcats said:

And my bullets would have been saved to take down wild boar hogs (and my CG $$ to 'film' a hoard of Walkers attacked by three boar hogs).  

Now that scene would put life into this show! Awesome, it would be, but I think TPTB saved up and blew the CGI budget for the entire series on Shiva, judging by that laughable junkyard vista, the transparent, floating deer, and the badly pasted-on snarls (looked like something from JibJab) of the pack of dinner dogs.

Feral hogs would be great - probably scarier than people who put on skin masks and whisper - but only if they don't get killed.

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