Kyle Richards: Pantene Poster Girl

[Avaleigh]

Did you see how LIsa R almost, almost, flung that poker chip at Brandi? That was a thing of beauty.

 

 

Yes! I'm glad somebody else mentioned this because I thought it was a great little moment. Can you imagine Brandi not throwing the chip if she'd had a mind to as LisaR did? No way would she have refrained herself IMO. 

 

I actually thought Kyle handled everything else well as can be expected. My one complaint is that she should never have touched Brandi but I can see how that was something that happened in the moment because Brandi was being so aggressive and obnoxious. It's not an excuse just an explanation because I don't feel that Brandi was unjustly attacked nor do I feel that Kyle was angling for camera time with the Kim thing. I thought she was just uncomfortable with the idea of Kim and Brandi leaving to go film a scene together outside with Kim in that state. 

[WireWrap]

I can't speak for how Kyle should act but look at the way Eileen and Lisa R handle the drunks and addicts.  I respect them so much more for keeping their cool and not appearing (to me anyway and not yet) to clamor for camera time.  Did you see how LIsa R almost, almost, flung that poker chip at Brandi? That was a thing of beauty. I hold Lisa R and Eileen to a higher standard because imo, they're better human beings than Kimdi.  I guess I also hold Kyle to a higher standard because I'm going on the assumption that Kyle is more together than Kim. However, I still think Kyle has an agenda and not above using Kim's addiction for a storyline. Or even just to help keep Kim employed so more of Mauricio's money can go for gladiator boots.  I've always thought Kyle has something up those caftan sleeves and that isn't likely to change because of this epi. :)

 

 

Exactly.  So they should both learn to keep their shit together.  If Kim can't because she's high, then at least Kyle might try.  But see my post above. ^^

Neither Lisa R or Eileen have witnessed Kim acting like this before, I think part of their "keeping their cool" was shock/disbelief at what they were witnessing more than actually being calm in the face of the storm.

 

Yes! I'm glad somebody else mentioned this because I thought it was a great little moment. Can you imagine Brandi not throwing the chip if she'd had a mind to as LisaR did? No way would she have refrained herself IMO. 

 

I actually thought Kyle handled everything else well as can be expected. My one complaint is that she should never have touched Brandi but I can see how that was something that happened in the moment because Brandi was being so aggressive and obnoxious. It's not an excuse just an explanation because I don't feel that Brandi was unjustly attacked nor do I feel that Kyle was angling for camera time with the Kim thing. I thought she was just uncomfortable with the idea of Kim and Brandi leaving to go film a scene together outside with Kim in that state. 

No one should ever touch another in anger on these shows but.....Brandi was physically blocking Kyle from getting close to Kim, she was preventing her from even talking to Kim. Brandi used her body to push Kyle back, IMO, that is the same as "touching" her.

[mbutterfly]

I've seen that photo before...in Vanity Fair, I think. She's at the Beverly Hills Hotel in that shot. Love the picture but I wonder why Kyle has it in her home. Are they connected in some way that I hadn't realized? Well, they both certainly have stories about working with Bette Davis perhaps they bonded at some function or other. 

 

And btw that's the sort of dinner guest that I'd like to see come over to Kyle's house. Faye Dunaway is pretty batshit in her own right, I know, but it's in that glorious old Hollywood sort of way even if she isn't technically old Hollywood so it doesn't really bother me. I find the diva factor here more fascinating than offensive, I guess. 

What movie was Kyle in with Bette Davis? Very interesting.

[ginger90]

What movie was Kyle in with Bette Davis? Very interesting.

They were both in The Watcher in the Woods .

[CaughtOnTape]

Not to mention Eileen and Lisa R are not related to Kim, they don't even know her very well.  It's a very different pair of eyes looking at an addict and reacting to an addict who is not your family member.  Before my mother I saw addicts and family members and had sympathy but that was about it.  Once you are presented with an addicted family member, the ballgame changes.  

 

A lot.

[zoeysmom]

What movie was Kyle in with Bette Davis? Very interesting.

Kyle played the younger version of Kim in the "Witch Mountain" movie. . . could that be it?

Neither Lisa R or Eileen have witnessed Kim acting like this before, I think part of their "keeping their cool" was shock/disbelief at what they were witnessing more than actually being calm in the face of the storm.

No one should ever touch another in anger on these shows but.....Brandi was physically blocking Kyle from getting close to Kim, she was preventing her from even talking to Kim. Brandi used her body to push Kyle back, IMO, that is the same as "touching" her.

Brandi because of the height and wingspan definitely comes off as intimidating add drunk and high and she is scary.  Did Brandi utter any threats?

 

What irritates me about Bravo-but certainly doesn't surprise-is this whole argument should be all in one episode.  I get for ratings they want the split but it makes for a lack of continuity.  I think what we will see is Kim is really angry at Lisar.  So her unconscionable behavior at the poker table is to get even with Lisar for asking the obvious.

[Mozelle]

Not to mention Eileen and Lisa R are not related to Kim, they don't even know her very well.  It's a very different pair of eyes looking at an addict and reacting to an addict who is not your family member.  Before my mother I saw addicts and family members and had sympathy but that was about it.  Once you are presented with an addicted family member, the ballgame changes.  

 

A lot.

 

Yes, I think that this is an important distinction to make. Eileen and Lisa R. will be cool and detached because, well, it isn't their family member in that moment. There's no history between Kim and Eileen and Lisa R. the way that there is between Kim and Kyle. Someone shared in the episode thread that one of Eileen's nieces died from an overdose last year. I can only imagine that if cameras were around to capture years of dynamic between Eileen and niece that it wouldn't all be sweetness and light and aloofness. 

Edited January 22, 2015 by Mozelle

[zoeysmom]

I see Brandi as someone who is conniving and Kim as someone who is so gullible.

 

How is it independently Kim and Brandi decided to be such assholes to Kyle at the same event?  I am smelling a Jeff/Brandi pull a fast one on Andy plan.  Kim hates Kyle and Brandi hates Kyle so anything they can do at anytime to make her feel bad, look bad or even smell bad they will.  It sad because I use to think Kim was normal and loved her siblings, I no longer see any signs of love from Kim.

 

All one has to do to get Kim to go along with them is tell her what a talented actress she is and what an untalented hack actress Kyle is and you have Kim eating out of your hands.   Throw in a Kyle is only on this earth because you worked to feed her and you would probably get a sex act thrown in.

 

Brandi wanted the directors to stop filming because she could not get a rise out of Kyle at the table and Kim was beginning to just sound like an idiot.   

 

I swear Brandi's goal this year is to spoil as many gatherings as possible.  So far she has pretty much hit every gathering and left her mark.  Now with Kim as a partner she has the appropriate booster and scape goat all in one.

 

I think Kim has found a way to collect her check without having to go through all the pesky getting ready for work-check herself into a hospital.  Filming comes to you and built in sympathy.  Maybe her injuries have her out for the season. 

[jinjer]

 

 

 

Brandi's back was to Kyle and hands were full - she had a glass(?) in one hand and pizza in the other - we saw the pizza go flying when Kyle grabbed her.  She didn't utter any threats other than, "Get your hands off me."  She was walking AWAY from Kyle with Kim and yes using her body to block Kim from Kyle. She is not shoving Kyle with her body. I just looked at the clip on Bravo.com.  Brandi wasn't the aggressor.  Drunk? Yes.  Obnoxious? Yes.

 

The whole, "Nobody is keeping me from my sister? According to posters here (I haven't read the blogs) Kim told Brandi that Kyle was bothering her after Kim returned from her bathroom tete-a-tete and that is why Brandi was sticking like glue to Kim from the moment she first escorted her outside to the limo then back into the kitchen and back outside again.  Brandi probably felt like Kim just gave her permission to keep her away from Kyle. Whether she "should have gotten involved" is a whole other matter.  

 

As for the obnoxious table behavior toward Kyle, I don't know if that was pre-planned or not, but I am surprised that Brandi jumped on so quickly because she and Kyle had been getting along so well and seemed to have made amends over the off-season.  I think Brandi in her drunken state thought that they were having "fun" with Kyle with some malicious, snide remarks thrown in.  It wasn't until Kyle ran off to the bathroom and Kim started her "victim" schtick that Brandi realized that shit was real.  

 

But the poker scene did reveal Brandi's deep down resentment of Kyle. It was surprising to see the rancor so soon after seeing them in the limo. I think Brandi hates Kyle partly/mainly out of jealousy,  partly because of game night and partly because of all the pearl clutching season 1 over Brandi's kid peeing on Adrienne's lawn and Brandi saying "fuck" and the mean girl stuff Kyle and Faye pulled. Kyle and Brandi have a long history of being enemies/rivals.  I guess her "friendship" last year with Kyle came out of mutual self-interest.  Both wanted to gang up on Lisa.  It wasn't meant to last. Such a shame - lol.

[howivesforever]

Brandi's back was to Kyle and hands were full - she had a glass(?) in one hand and pizza in the other - we saw the pizza go flying when Kyle grabbed her. She didn't utter any threats other than, "Get your hands off me." She was walking AWAY from Kyle with Kim and yes using her body to block Kim from Kyle. She is not shoving Kyle with her body. I just looked at the clip on Bravo.com. Brandi wasn't the aggressor. Drunk? Yes. Obnoxious? Yes.

Brandi's behavior was aggressive. If someone especially someone like Brandi was trying to block me from talking to my clearly messed up sister I would knock them on their ass. Kyle had a great deal of restraint that I would not have had!

[jinjer]

Brandi's back was to Kyle and hands were full - she had a glass(?) in one hand and pizza in the other - we saw the pizza go flying when Kyle grabbed her. She didn't utter any threats other than, "Get your hands off me." She was walking AWAY from Kyle with Kim and yes using her body to block Kim from Kyle. She is not shoving Kyle with her body. I just looked at the clip on Bravo.com. Brandi wasn't the aggressor. Drunk? Yes. Obnoxious? Yes.

 

Brandi's behavior was aggressive. If someone especially someone like Brandi was trying to block me from talking to my clearly messed up sister I would knock them on their ass. Kyle had a great deal of restraint that I would not have had!

Walking away from someone in my opinion is not aggressive behavior.  No one has the right or is entitled to grab a person in order to talk to anyone else - even a sibling - especially if another sibling has told them they don't want to talk to them.

 

I don't like what Kim Richards was doing - she was playing Kyle and Brandi. She was antagonizing/provoking Kyle and then using Brandi as a bodyguard to insulate herself.  Kyle was upset and angry and was chasing after them.  Brandi put herself in the way and was preventing Kyle from doing what she wanted.  But that doesn't entitle Kyle to grab Brandi.  "No one has the right to put their hands on someone else," is the refrain we hear time and time again.  We heard it with Kenya and Porsha. Kyle has a habit of being handsy with people.

 

I don't blame Kyle for grabbing Brandi and trying to get by her - it's human nature and understandable.  She's not a terrible person for doing it. But she didn't have the right to do it.  She was the aggressor. Brandi had her back to Kyle and her hands full and had just gone up a step. She is not responsible for Kyle reaching out and grabbing her. We might not like her intervening, but that doesn't entitle Kyle to grab her.

 

IMO this is more about "someone like Brandi" doing it than anything else.  Just as Kim is responsible for Kim's behavior, Kyle is responsible for Kyle's behavior.

[howivesforever]

Walking away from someone in my opinion is not aggressive behavior. No one has the right or is entitled to grab a person in order to talk to anyone else - even a sibling - especially if another sibling has told them they don't want to talk to them.

I don't like what Kim Richards was doing - she was playing Kyle and Brandi. She was antagonizing/provoking Kyle and then using Brandi as a bodyguard to insulate herself. Kyle was upset and angry and was chasing after them. Brandi put herself in the way and was preventing Kyle from doing what she wanted. But that doesn't entitle Kyle to grab Brandi. "No one has the right to put their hands on someone else," is the refrain we hear time and time again. We heard it with Kenya and Porsha. Kyle has a habit of being handsy with people.

I don't blame Kyle for grabbing Brandi and trying to get by her - it's human nature and understandable. She's not a terrible person for doing it. But she didn't have the right to do it. She was the aggressor. Brandi had her back to Kyle and her hands full and had just gone up a step. She is not responsible for Kyle reaching out and grabbing her. We might not like her intervening, but that doesn't entitle Kyle to grab her.

IMO this is more about "someone like Brandi" doing it than anything else. Just as Kim is responsible for Kim's behavior, Kyle is responsible for Kyle's behavior.

Brandi was not just walking away she was blocking Kyle from getting to Kim. That is a sign of aggression and she would have been on her ass!

[zoeysmom]

So in Brandi's world she wanted to put Kim in a limo and send her off.  Was Brandi's plan then to come back into the party and give another blast towards Kyle?  Was Brandi expecting to ride home with Kyle and Lisa R, who she had been insulting?  This is why drunk people don't make decisions for the group.  Brandi has no right to commandeer the motor pool for her own benefit.

 

Kyle was upset and I honestly believe she was trying to give her sister the opportunity to smarten up.

 

Brandi being mad at Kyle for refusing to step in between Kim and Brandi's 2 am phone calls is perfect.  Brandi wanted flowers-well it is the price she pays.  Brandi encouraged the phone calls to get dirt on Kyle and she can't expect to rid herself so easily of Kim when it doesn't suit her. First and foremost Kyle's duty is as a mother to her children-especially the minor children, second as a wife and third as sister.

 

Kyle knows exactly what Brandi is capable of in the burn people with half truths and misinformation.  There was just noway Kyle was going to have an off camera conversation with Brandi regarding her sister.

[thewhiteowl]

I was with you, jinjer, till Brandi took those extra steps to push Kyle down those stairs.  Brandi started the physical confrontation when she physically blocked Kyle. How Kyle responded is on Kyle but Brandi did go the extra step to push Kyle. As I saw it.

[Rina99]

Brandi being mad at Kyle for refusing to step in between Kim and Brandi's 2 am phone calls is perfect.

 

 

All this tells me is that Kyle actually does have her limits as far as how much of Kim's bullshit she's willing to put up with.  

[howivesforever]

IMO this is more about "someone like Brandi" doing it than anything else. Just as Kim is responsible for Kim's behavior, Kyle is responsible for Kyle's behavior.

And sorry just clarify what I meant by someone like Brandy I think she herself is an addict. I would not be okay with another addict trying to keep me from my sister especially when both of them were acting crazy and erratic.

[zoeysmom]

It gets very real next week and Brandi becomes a bit overbearing.

 

Walking away from someone in my opinion is not aggressive behavior.  No one has the right or is entitled to grab a person in order to talk to anyone else - even a sibling - especially if another sibling has told them they don't want to talk to them.

 

I don't like what Kim Richards was doing - she was playing Kyle and Brandi. She was antagonizing/provoking Kyle and then using Brandi as a bodyguard to insulate herself.  Kyle was upset and angry and was chasing after them.  Brandi put herself in the way and was preventing Kyle from doing what she wanted.  But that doesn't entitle Kyle to grab Brandi.  "No one has the right to put their hands on someone else," is the refrain we hear time and time again.  We heard it with Kenya and Porsha. Kyle has a habit of being handsy with people.

 

I don't blame Kyle for grabbing Brandi and trying to get by her - it's human nature and understandable.  She's not a terrible person for doing it. But she didn't have the right to do it.  She was the aggressor. Brandi had her back to Kyle and her hands full and had just gone up a step. She is not responsible for Kyle reaching out and grabbing her. We might not like her intervening, but that doesn't entitle Kyle to grab her.

 

IMO this is more about "someone like Brandi" doing it than anything else.  Just as Kim is responsible for Kim's behavior, Kyle is responsible for Kyle's behavior.

It is like splashing any unwanted touching is an assault be it wine or water.  Brandi response may have been a bit of overkill but Kyle should not have touched her.  I don't know why my spoiler went to the top of the page.

[jinjer]

I was with you, jinjer, till Brandi took those extra steps to push Kyle down those stairs.  Brandi started the physical confrontation when she physically blocked Kyle. How Kyle responded is on Kyle but Brandi did go the extra step to push Kyle. As I saw it.

Brandi didn't touch Kyle until Kyle grabbed her from behind.  The reason Kyle was shoved so hard was probably because 1 the pizza went flying, they were near the stairs and, according to Kyle and Brandi, Brandi's armed got scratched. On WWHL Brandi accused Kyle of scratching her, and Kyle corrected her and said it was from the studs on her cuff.  So yes, Brandi did strike back, and that physical reaction is on Brandi.  It was a reaction not the initial aggression. 

 

Look, I agree that Brandi was a fool for getting in between the Richards sisters.  Brandi was drunk and was playing Cap'n Save a Ho.  She played right into Kim's hands.  Kim apparently told her Kyle was "bothering" her when she returned from the bathroom, and that's all Brandi needed to know.  But Kim continued to provoke and engage Kyle.  Brandi was trying to get Kim to disengage and separate.  Kyle chased after them. To label Brandi the aggressor in all this is wrong IMO.  

[ryebread]

I was with you, jinjer, till Brandi took those extra steps to push Kyle down those stairs.  Brandi started the physical confrontation when she physically blocked Kyle. How Kyle responded is on Kyle but Brandi did go the extra step to push Kyle. As I saw it.

 

Kyle started the physical stuff, imo. Which is why I don't think Bravo will do one thing about Brandi pushing Kyle. I don't see Brandi shielding Kim from Kyle as aggressive.  Especially when Kyle had just grabbed Kim 3 times.  Even after Kim told Kyle to "stay away from me".  Then after Kyle grabs Kim 3 times, she does the same to Brandi.  Kyle needs to stop being so grabby when she wants someone's attention.

 

I agree that Brandi taking those extra steps was out of line.  But watch Kyle's 2 grabs at Brandi which prompted Brandi to turn around an push her.  They were borderline vicious.  And if someone came at me from behind like that, scratching me with fingernails or bracelets, out of instinct, I'd push her away too.  I'd never push anyone down steps, though.

[ryebread]

If my husband was shielding me from someone who was harassing me, with his arm around me or out stretched,  if the harasser then grabbed my husband, who is the aggressor? 

 

Or is it just because it's Brandi and Kim is Kyle's sister?

 

Brandi started the physical confrontation when she physically blocked Kyle. How Kyle responded is on Kyle but Brandi did go the extra step to push Kyle. As I saw it.

 

Kyle actually started the physical confrontation when she grabbed Kim's arm 3 times. After being told to stop by both Kim and Brandi.  Only then did Brandi start walking Kim to the door with her arm as barrier. 

Edited January 23, 2015 by ryebread

[howivesforever]

In my mind an act of aggression is trying to prevent me from getting from point A to B. Had Brandi just let Kyle pass none of that would have happened.

[ryebread]

Had Brandi just let Kyle pass none of that would have happened.

 

Now that I might agree with. But if Kyle would have stopped following Kim when Kim said "Don't" and to "Stay away from me", Brandi wouldn't have shielded Kim.

 

And if Kim wouldn't be such an instigating drunk NONE of this would have happened.  And my house would be clean. LOL

 

They're all crazy. Just some to a greater degree.

[thewhiteowl]

So it was already a physical confrontation between Kim and Kyle with Kyle grabbing Kim when fierce protector Brandi chose to step in. That's on Brandi. She put herself there and blocked Kyle, escalating the situation. I see that as aggressive, if not passive-aggressive.  I wonder what she thought she was protecting Kim from? The consequences of Kim's own actions? Did she think Kyle was going to beat Kim to death?  Kim was spoiling for a fight since before she arrived a Eileen's why not let her have it?  

[motorcitymom65]

 

 

I don't like what Kim Richards was doing - she was playing Kyle and Brandi. She was antagonizing/provoking Kyle and then using Brandi as a bodyguard to insulate herself.  Kyle was upset and angry and was chasing after them.  Brandi put herself in the way and was preventing Kyle from doing what she wanted.  But that doesn't entitle Kyle to grab Brandi.  "No one has the right to put their hands on someone else," is the refrain we hear time and time again.  We heard it with Kenya and Porsha. Kyle has a habit of being handsy with people.

 

Brandi was antagonizing/provoking Kyle every bit as much as Kim was. Brandi was the one throwing out the "stupid" word. She was the one who kept talking about everyone else being an actress. If it was a plan by Kim, I can see no way that Brandi wasn't right there with her. She was certainly getting Kim all worked up with the "no one knows what you are going through other than me" bullshit, or the "I've got your back".  In this scenario, I don't think you can separate Kim from Brandi (literally).  It is like Game Night. Would it have ever gotten to that place had Kim and Kyle not both been there? Would it have been different if there was just one of them? I always thought they empowered each other to take it to that place.  Same here. If you hadn't had both Kim and Brandi together, things probably would never have gotten to that place. 

Edited January 23, 2015 by motorcitymom65

[zoeysmom]

This contains the rest of the fight

This has the fight:  On further review it appears there may have been some touching by Brandi before the shove:  Is that like a loss of a time out and replay the down?  http://stoopidhousewives.com/2015/01/23/rhobh-girls-night-fights-its-drunkotis-v-hagfacekyle-stlucianidol91-kylerichards-brandiglanville/

 

Brandi appears to be pushing her forearm into Kyle's hand prior to the first grab.  We need another camera angle.

 

 

Edited January 23, 2015 by zoeysmom

[ryebread]

This contains the rest of the fight

This has the fight:  On further review it appears there may have been some touching by Brandi before the shove:  Is that like a loss of a time out and replay the down?  http://stoopidhousewives.com/2015/01/23/rhobh-girls-night-fights-its-drunkotis-v-hagfacekyle-stlucianidol91-kylerichards-brandiglanville/

 

Brandi appears to be pushing her forearm into Kyle's hand prior to the first grab.  We need another camera angle.

LOL. What we need is slo-mo.

 

I think the sticky wicket is if you see Brandi's arm up as an aggressive action. (I don't.)  But even in that clip, Kyle pushes Brandi's arm and then grabs her, not once but twice before Brandi finally turns around and pushes her.

 

Eileen is shielding a retreating Lisa R from Brandi.

Brandi pushes Eileen's arm and then grabs her twice.

 

Who is the aggressor?

[thewhiteowl]

 I think I'm aware that my disgust for Brandi could possibly be coloring my perception. However I can easily dismiss that when I saw Brandi being verbally aggressive and insulting Kyle and others previous to the physical confrontation.  If the above scenario actually happened I'd wonder WTF Eileen had to shield LisaR and what led to it but I don't have to wonder because I saw what I saw. Thanks.

[walnutqueen]

LOL. What we need is slo-mo.

 

I think the sticky wicket is if you see Brandi's arm up as an aggressive action. (I don't.)  But even in that clip, Kyle pushes Brandi's arm and then grabs her, not once but twice before Brandi finally turns around and pushes her.

 

Eileen is shielding a retreating Lisa R from Brandi.

Brandi pushes Eileen's arm and then grabs her twice.

 

Who is the aggressor?

 

I am SO ridiculously happy that you used the term "sticky wicket", ryebread - I don't even care who did what to whom anymore!  :-)

[FozzyBear]

I think I'm aware that my disgust for Brandi could possibly be coloring my perception. However I can easily dismiss that when I saw Brandi being verbally aggressive and insulting Kyle and others previous to the physical confrontation. If the above scenario actually happened I'd wonder WTF Eileen had to shield LisaR and what led to it but I don't have to wonder because I saw what I saw. Thanks.

I totally get this because Brandi is gross and was acting gross that night. However the one point I take issue with was Kyle grabbing her like that. Kyle gets way too physical during arguments. Plus Kim isn't her child and wasn't asking to speak to her. Kyle really had no right to do that IMO. The rest of the night? Oh fuck no! Brandi and Kim are so very wrong and Kyle is so very right.

Edited January 23, 2015 by FozzyBear

[ryebread]

I am SO ridiculously happy that you used the term "sticky wicket", ryebread - I don't even care who did what to whom anymore!  :-)

 

LOL.  I must have been inspired by quinn's use of 'sturm und drang' and persnickety's use of 'fuck and awe'.  Always on the lookout for colorful vocabulary.

[walnutqueen]

LOL.  I must have been inspired by quinn's use of 'sturm und drang' and persnickety's use of 'fuck and awe'.  Always on the lookout for colorful vocabulary.

 

How about "obstreperous" in lieu of "ornery"?   :-)

 

It's a personal favorite of mine ever since my stepdad labeled me as such when I was a wee one.

[ryebread]

How about "obstreperous" in lieu of "ornery"?   :-)

 

It's a personal favorite of mine ever since my stepdad labeled me as such when I was a wee one.

 

"adjective:  difficult to control and often noisy".

 

Seems about right. <3

[walnutqueen]

"adjective:  difficult to control and often noisy".

 

Seems about right. <3

 

Just ask the ever-so-patient MODS and my fellow posters here - I'm sure they'll agree with your astute assessment.  :-)

 

I love that Kyle immediately removes her impossible to walk in shoes when the shit goes down.  Barefoot in the driveway ... my kind of gal.

[snowblossom2]

This doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the fight between Kyle and Brandi but I was VERY uncomfortable with how Brandi would not let go of Kim's arm after Kim came out of the bathroom. When Kim came to the kitchen to say goodbye, you see Brandi continually holding on to her/steering her (?) and not letting go.

[zoeysmom]

So Brandi had her Podcast and at about the 3:00 mark she starts going off on Kyle.  It is worth to listen to the first 4:30 because brandi's first guest is her hairdresser that appears on the show with her.  He is as foul mouthed as Brandi.  So Brandi has some Kyle info and claimed she couldn't even watch her on WWHL, because she would go tweet crazy.  Brandi is saying she does know the Hilton family because she went to their Christmas party and there was no Kyle.  http://www.podcastone.com/pg/jsp/program/episode.jsp?programID=582&pid=480080

 

Next up she claims she didn't go to Utah with JR because she would have to stay under the same roof as Kyle and she would beat her up if she saw her.  Does anybody think Brandi was offered an invitation to the event?  I sure don't. 

 

Lastly after announcing at the beginning of her Podcast that she was having the cast of "Little Women LA" on Brandi answers hairdresser question about what happened during the fight with Kyle in the driveway because Kyle had said on WWHL, the caller would have to watch it.  Brandi's response is Ky;e did nothing as she is only 4'11.  I hope the Little Women of LA beat her ass.

[motorcitymom65]

So Brandi had her Podcast and at about the 3:00 mark she starts going off on Kyle.  It is worth to listen to the first 4:30 because brandi's first guest is her hairdresser that appears on the show with her.  He is as foul mouthed as Brandi.  So Brandi has some Kyle info and claimed she couldn't even watch her on WWHL, because she would go tweet crazy.  Brandi is saying she does know the Hilton family because she went to their Christmas party and there was no Kyle.  http://www.podcastone.com/pg/jsp/program/episode.jsp?programID=582&pid=480080

 

Next up she claims she didn't go to Utah with JR because she would have to stay under the same roof as Kyle and she would beat her up if she saw her.  Does anybody think Brandi was offered an invitation to the event?  I sure don't. 

 

Lastly after announcing at the beginning of her Podcast that she was having the cast of "Little Women LA" on Brandi answers hairdresser question about what happened during the fight with Kyle in the driveway because Kyle had said on WWHL, the caller would have to watch it.  Brandi's response is Ky;e did nothing as she is only 4'11.  I hope the Little Women of LA beat her ass.

Ugh. She is so painful to listen too.  

 

I agree that she probably wasn't invited to the Utah vacation. Why is she still with this guy anyway? Hasn't she bitched on camera about the fact that he cheats on her? Is this all she can get? 

[zoeysmom]

Ugh. She is so painful to listen too.  

 

I agree that she probably wasn't invited to the Utah vacation. Why is she still with this guy anyway? Hasn't she bitched on camera about the fact that he cheats on her? Is this all she can get? 

I am thinking if JR extended an invitation he did it without the blessings of the CEO Mauricio.  This is a big deal this is a co-hosting deal at Sundance every night VIP cocktail party. The Agency's venue for the party is the daytime office of the LA Times.  There would never  be a reason to have Brandi there and I am just delighted she can't use her kids as an excuse because Eddie and LeAnn have had the kids for the past five days.   

 

I think JR and Brandi deserve each other.  They have been "dating" since June 2012 and it seems Brandi has written a book about her sexual exploits since her split with Eddie and being with Jonathan publicly limited those possibilities.  She was orally servicing this guy on the kitchen floor in December of 2012 http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/john-kerwin-brandi-glanville-lady-article-1.1382374.  So I just don't know how solid this relationship has ever been.  So I think they are boyfriend/girlfriend when it suits them.  I think it is amazing that Mauricio still works with him.

[Avaleigh]

Who invited Brandi to a Hilton family Christmas party? Why wasn't Kyle there? Does the podcast explain? 

[bosawks]

Brandi probably just passed out in the bathroom of a Hilton in December........

[snowblossom2]

Who invited Brandi to a Hilton family Christmas party? Why wasn't Kyle there? Does the podcast explain? 

Kim seems to not understand what was wrong with her behavior re: this past episode, so Kim probably invited Brandi if they are still enabling each other

[zoeysmom]

Who invited Brandi to a Hilton family Christmas party? Why wasn't Kyle there? Does the podcast explain? 

I think Kim took Brandi as a guest.  I don't think Kathy Hilton just up and invited Brandi to get to know her better.  My guess is Brandi knows there was a good reason Kyle was no there but is trying to start a dialogue with either Kim or Kyle.  I don't think it was a family Christmas party as Paul Nassif was there.  I think it was just a holiday party.

here is Kyle, JR and a blonde woman enjoying themselves in Sundance.  Hope Brandi enjoys the photo:  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1005241082823439

[Avaleigh]

Brandi truly is hung up on looks, isn't she? I have to say that JR is pretty damn attractive just as Eddie is. Even her casual hook ups like Gerard are hot. I'm curious to know how she does it.

 

Wait, did I just compliment Brandi? I'm not quite sure. It's not like I think she has game or anything exactly not like Laurie or Taylor but prior to this show I wonder if she could have found a wallet to marry if she'd focused on that specifically rather than going the fame whore route for a pay day.

 

I'm glad Kyle is enjoying Sundance. It's funny how much Sundance has changed over the years though. I remember seeing pics of some of the cast of Shahs of Sunset there last year and it's just like why are these people here? 

[Found A Peanut]

If Brandi has always hated Kyle, even during the seeming détente, what's with having Kyle babysit her kids? That's so bizarre to me. I can't imagine leaving my kids with somebody I hate and plan to ambush just as soon as drunk o'clock rolls around.

[WireWrap]

So Brandi had her Podcast and at about the 3:00 mark she starts going off on Kyle.  It is worth to listen to the first 4:30 because brandi's first guest is her hairdresser that appears on the show with her.  He is as foul mouthed as Brandi.  So Brandi has some Kyle info and claimed she couldn't even watch her on WWHL, because she would go tweet crazy.  Brandi is saying she does know the Hilton family because she went to their Christmas party and there was no Kyle.  http://www.podcastone.com/pg/jsp/program/episode.jsp?programID=582&pid=480080

 

Next up she claims she didn't go to Utah with JR because she would have to stay under the same roof as Kyle and she would beat her up if she saw her.  Does anybody think Brandi was offered an invitation to the event?  I sure don't. 

 

Lastly after announcing at the beginning of her Podcast that she was having the cast of "Little Women LA" on Brandi answers hairdresser question about what happened during the fight with Kyle in the driveway because Kyle had said on WWHL, the caller would have to watch it.  Brandi's response is Ky;e did nothing as she is only 4'11.  I hope the Little Women of LA beat her ass.

I do not think he would go against his boss, Mauricio, and invite Brandi, this is just her cover story. IMO, Brandi is nothing more than a hook up date when he needs an itch scratched!

 

Going to a party at someone's home as a friend of someone that was invited, does not mean you "know" them, it means you have met them and nothing more. Does she really think Kathy would ever invite her as a solo guest? LOL

 

 

I am thinking if JR extended an invitation he did it without the blessings of the CEO Mauricio.  This is a big deal this is a co-hosting deal at Sundance every night VIP cocktail party. The Agency's venue for the party is the daytime office of the LA Times.  There would never  be a reason to have Brandi there and I am just delighted she can't use her kids as an excuse because Eddie and LeAnn have had the kids for the past five days.   

 

I think JR and Brandi deserve each other.  They have been "dating" since June 2012 and it seems Brandi has written a book about her sexual exploits since her split with Eddie and being with Jonathan publicly limited those possibilities.  She was orally servicing this guy on the kitchen floor in December of 2012 http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/john-kerwin-brandi-glanville-lady-article-1.1382374.  So I just don't know how solid this relationship has ever been.  So I think they are boyfriend/girlfriend when it suits them.  I think it is amazing that Mauricio still works with him.

Brandi had no problems writing about her HPV for her book but she thinks it is ok not to inform anyone she is going to have sex with? She thinks it's wrong that someone puts her on blast for jeopardizing his health? Good grief, she blasted Eddie for not telling her but she doesn't tell her hook ups! GROSS!

 

IMO, JR calls Brandi when he wants sex and no one else is available, they are nothing more than on/off again hook ups.

If Brandi has always hated Kyle, even during the seeming détente, what's with having Kyle babysit her kids? That's so bizarre to me. I can't imagine leaving my kids with somebody I hate and plan to ambush just as soon as drunk o'clock rolls around.

Because getting laid and drunk are more important to Brandi than having someone she dislikes/hates watching her kids for free is!

[jinjer]

He was her Golden Globes date.  

 

Because getting laid and drunk are more important to Brandi than having someone she dislikes/hates watching her kids for free is!

Right.  Brandi said that she and Kyle had become closer last year and that Kyle had even helped look for Paco when the cameras weren't there!  A real test of true friendship - no cameras!

 

I don't think Brandi pre-planned to go after Kyle with Kim's fall off the wagon. I think Brandi was drunk and serendipity played a huge part into Brandi's need to be needed.  I think Kim gave Brandi plenty of earfuls of her gripes against Kyle in their 2 am/daily phone calls, and as soon as Brandi is needed/gets to play 'save-a-ho' all the ammunition that Kim fed her came pouring out. I mean going back to the limo scene in season 1, it is Kim who says that Kyle drinks more than Kim does.  Then her blogs/tweets are filled with stuff that she reads on blogs/forums about how Kyle uses Kim for a storyline.  We have been reading about that for years.  Brandi didn't make that up. 

 

Brandi was clear last season that Lisa V NEVER asked her to go after people, but that Brandi out of loyalty to her friend took on her battles without being asked.  I think Brandi does this for whatever fucked up reasons Brandi has. Low self-esteem, needing to belong - whatever. I think she is doing that for Kim.  

 

And I don't think she is doing it for storyline.  If she wanted a storyline, a much better one would be to align with Kyle to help Kim, not to alienate Kyle - the one HW who can guarantee that Brandi stay on the show forever.  I think Brandi loves to be needed, and will cut off her nose to spite her face to do so.

[zoeysmom]

He was her Golden Globes date.  

Right.  Brandi said that she and Kyle had become closer last year and that Kyle had even helped look for Paco when the cameras weren't there!  A real test of true friendship - no cameras!

 

I don't think Brandi pre-planned to go after Kyle with Kim's fall off the wagon. I think Brandi was drunk and serendipity played a huge part into Brandi's need to be needed.  I think Kim gave Brandi plenty of earfuls of her gripes against Kyle in their 2 am/daily phone calls, and as soon as Brandi is needed/gets to play 'save-a-ho' all the ammunition that Kim fed her came pouring out. I mean going back to the limo scene in season 1, it is Kim who says that Kyle drinks more than Kim does.  Then her blogs/tweets are filled with stuff that she reads on blogs/forums about how Kyle uses Kim for a storyline.  We have been reading about that for years.  Brandi didn't make that up. 

 

Brandi was clear last season that Lisa V NEVER asked her to go after people, but that Brandi out of loyalty to her friend took on her battles without being asked.  I think Brandi does this for whatever fucked up reasons Brandi has. Low self-esteem, needing to belong - whatever. I think she is doing that for Kim.  

 

And I don't think she is doing it for storyline.  If she wanted a storyline, a much better one would be to align with Kyle to help Kim, not to alienate Kyle - the one HW who can guarantee that Brandi stay on the show forever.  I think Brandi loves to be needed, and will cut off her nose to spite her face to do so.

I was watching Celebrity Apprentice and the guy from Deadliest Catch based his theme around sex sells.  often said and often used it does not necessarily apply in every situation.  I see Brandi going down the same path with her drama sells version of life.  She has not been shy about saying she makes the show, there wouldn't be a show without her.  I agree at this point I think Brandi is cutting her nose off to spite her face.  Brandi is lamenting that she is being picked on by social media.  In one episode she has insulted Kyle, Lisa R, Eileen, Yolanda, Kim, Jennifer (just the fact she didn't tell her about her clown make-up) public schools, sobriety and apologies in general.  At some point Brandi has to see it is not working-the center of negative attention only works for so long and then you become a five minute spot on "Where Are They Now?".  Brandi has a life to finance and cannot afford being marginalized or rushed off into obscurity.  

[Avaleigh]

Brandi was clear last season that Lisa V NEVER asked her to go after people, but that Brandi out of loyalty to her friend took on her battles without being asked.  I think Brandi does this for whatever fucked up reasons Brandi has. Low self-esteem, needing to belong - whatever. I think she is doing that for Kim.

 

 

I do find it plausible that Brandi sometimes attacks out of some r******* interpretation of loyalty but it's still a very difficult mentality for me to understand. It is a fair point though that Brandi was ready and willing to go into attack mode without much or any prodding from Lisa because Brandi relishes controversy as she thinks controversy = more camera time. As far as her level of sincerity with regard to Kim--I don't buy it for a second. I'm just thinking about Brandi's reaction to Kim's relapse in Paris and to me it seemed like she couldn't have cared less. The shit stained pillow revelation was all about Brandi pointing out to Kim that Yolanda had been very nice and tried to be helpful with Kim and that Kim was *never* appreciative of Yolanda's efforts. (All perfectly true IMO.) Brandi wasn't concerned about Kim's sobriety at all nor did she think that she needed to be babied and protected. Brandi doesn't have any more allies and Kim makes her look *slightly* better in comparison though some people may even disagree with that; I think those are the reasons she's pretending to be so close to Kim.

 

In one episode she has insulted Kyle, Lisa R, Eileen, Yolanda, Kim, Jennifer (just the fact she didn't tell her about her clown make-up) public schools, sobriety and apologies in general.

 

 

Lol about her not telling Jennifer about the horrific makeup. I have to give Brandi a pass on this one considering that she can't recognize when she herself is in clown territory with the makeup.

 

I'm actually surprised that more hasn't been made about the public schools comment. 

[Umbelina]

Lisa R has been on WWHL and said she was a huge fan of the show, even talked about it.  She's well aware of Kim's past behavior, and also seems to be a fairly close friend of Kyle's.  

 

Kyle needs to learn to keep her hands to herself.  Frankly  I'm surprised someone hasn't pushed her off before.  She's grabby and I'd also be annoyed at her (and Kim's!) endless finger in the face moves.  Did they learn that from mom?

 

Meanwhile, to use the "fruit from the tree" chestnut, Kyle's gotten what she wanted.  She's the "good one" and the victim now, and Kim isn't.  So Brandi did her a huge favor, giving her what she's wanted all along.  To finally win a Bravo poll, and have people on her "side."

 

Ugh, she's still vyle.

[jinjer]

I wonder if Brandi meant that Lisa's kids go to a private school where the kids wear uniforms/dress code = more conservative dress.  We saw Lisa's kids in the 1st episode in uniforms.  Some speculated that they might attend a catholic school, not just private.

[Mozelle]

When has Kyle been grabby? I know she's typically Pointy McPointerson, but grabbing? In that flashback to the Malibu party we saw Brandi grab Kyle's hand and Kyle swat the hand away, demanding that Brandi never touch her again.

The poker party after show is the first time I've seen Kyle reach out and actually touch another person (pulling Brandi's arm out of the way from blocking her).