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If the writers wanted to make Sharon interesting and entertaining with wacky hijinks or wild schemes that irritate the ever-living fuck out of Genoa City, they had Generic Soap Insanity in their shitty sack of tropes. The show made its bipolar bed and now the show has to lie in it.

Preach!

 

Someone should tell the writers. ;)

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This Pricktor stuff has really got me flummoxed.  I just don't understand what they are doing here.  We have always seen Prick do reckless and devious things to even his own family members, but never something that would rise to the level of sadistic torture.  Although I guess being married to Patty could be that.  Maybe the point here is that this is the man he always has been and it has been couched in "I did it for my family".  He did lock up the guy who Julia was in love with in his basement, and he was quite sadistic with him.  And what he did to Billy putting him in a prison in Myanmar, is probably equally as bad but we didn't see him gloating about it.  Maybe he has always been a psychopath.  I wish Ghost John would visit him and kick him in the nuts.

 

Good points, Bannana. But god Bill Bell worked hard to get Victor beyond the rat dungeon days. And these writers are just throwing him back there. Victor did keep Billy in a prison in Myanmar. But we didn't see how Billy suffered. And that's a big difference. We are watching each second of physical and emotional abuse that Jack, a long-term beloved character, is enduring. The writers cannot show this and not have someone pay for it. And it's not enough to have Farko pay. He didn't start it; and he's not snickering about it. I found watching Jack in a Kafka-esque nightmare on the ship being slapped by those thugs really tough to take. I just don't see how Victor doesn't pay. He has to otherwise what the fuck is this? Some sick fantasy of Pratt's that playing out? Let's watch handsome rich WASP guy get the shit beaten out of him and psychologically tortured. What fun!

 

Ninja: that is a spot on, excellent post about mental illness. Bravo!

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Oh, Fack, I love you.

 

In today's episode, when the time came for Fack to tell Victor who Gabriel's father was, he said it was Jack.

 

At first I looked at him like he was nuts. I thought he'd completely misunderstood what Gabriel had said. I was actually ready to call him an idiot.

 

But then, I saw the look on Fack's face once he was alone. He played a trick on Victor. 

 

Unfortunately, I think it's one he may live to regret.

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Okay, the big news today was Farko telling Prick that Gabe is Jack’s son.  And, we got a Keemo shout-out!  And PB is brilliant, again.

Prick and Jack are sitting in the section of the GCAC that no one enters, so maybe it is like a private room for dastardly nefarious conversations.  Prick wants Farko to tell him who Gabe’s father is, but Farko says: what is the fun of blurting it out, I’ll give you three guesses.  Farko is taunting Prick a bit by saying that Gabe’s father is not Harrison Bingham and is someone closer to home and wants him to guess.  Prick tells him to get to the point.  Farko:  I serve at the pleasure of the King, right.  Prick:  You bet, you and I have a deal, you abide by that deal or else it is terminated, you understand?  And he does a slicing motion with his hand across his own throat.  Farko:  All because you didn’t want to play a little guessing game.  Too bad, it would have been fun.  Prick: stop this BS.   Farko finally tells him that Gabe is Jack’s son.  Prick is somewhat surprised.  And Farko rubs it in:  And you didn’t know, wow, score one for Jack.  The signs were all there—he and Gabe were bosom buddies, Gabe feels entitled to the COO job, blood is thicker than water.  Prick wonders if Gabe getting the job at NA is due to blackmail or the agreement. Farko says: who knows, maybe Jack had a fling with Mrs. Bingham.  Maybe Jack never knew. Maybe he knew all along.  Prick: and he told no one.   Farko says, you told me Jack apparently has a kid that he barely acknowledges, and Prick says that son’s name is Keemo.  And Farko says:  Chemo, what the hell kind of name is that?  At least that is the spelling I think he heard! Farko offers to dig a bit more to see what he can find out but Prick says he has already caused enough trouble by putting Ash on the case of watching Gabe and Chelz.  What if she finds out something they don’t want her to know, what then.  Farko says he has been the paragon of discretion.  And Prick says, you claim to have done no harm to Austin and Courtney, and Farko says he did not, the feds have moved on, he is not a suspect.  He says he is a team player, by bringing this news to Prick.  Prick tells him he better be a team player, and walks away, and Farko has the quintessential Cheshire grin.


Adam and Chelz blah blah blah you’re like Adam, but you were a party guy, and Billy was a party guy but now he’s not cause something bad happened to him, and maybe something bad happened to you blah blah.  Gabe loses his patience (as did I) because WTF is Chelz going on and on about Billy and Adam.  This was an annoying scene so that’s all I got.  There was some stuff about Prick and why Chelz puts up with him, and Gabe says if she can, he can.  Chelz tells Gabe:  be you, don’t be Adam. Hah!  More blah blah.


On the ship, Jack is shouting “Help” and pleading for them to listen to him that he is Jack Abbott and not Marco.  The two bad guys show up and tell him to keep it down, they are pulling into port, and they are having a few guests.  They say that Marco used to like going to parties but he won’t be going to this one.  They tell him to stay quiet and Jack pleads with them to listen, that he is not Marco but he has the money to help them find Marco, and they leave.   The beautiful woman shows up and calls Jack “Marco”, and she kisses him.  YAY!  Although, still, poor Jack.  She says she thought he was dead, that he was gone, and asks him how he got there.  He says:  this is a trick.  She says: no trick, it’s me Marissa, who did this to you?  She says she will help him.  He tells her the bad guy up top has a key and she assures him she knows how to get it.  Jack hears loud voices, struggling, and a gunshot and is worried that something has happened to her and he is without hope again.  Head Bad Guy shows up pointing a gun at Jack and says:  you had a visitor, I won’t be betrayed, they paid the price and so will you Marco, time to move; and leaves again, and then Marissa shows up with the key and says:  Remember what you always used to say Marco, the situation is hopeless but not serious.  And Jack grabs for the key but she jerks her hand away from him, and he looks puzzled.  Poor Jack.  She wants answers.  Many years have gone by and she wants answers.  We are not going anywhere until you tell me what I need to know.

 

Chelz goes to see Ash at the lab but she isn’t there, Farko is and he is happy to see her.  She apologizes for missing the meeting and Farko doesn’t care because she is the creative type and doesn’t need to punch a time clock.  They talk about Ash.  He worries about Ash and whether she is enjoying life.  Farko says he has a long trail of mistakes behind him, and Chelz says she never meant to hurt Billy.  Farko tells her that Gabe is his friend.  Chelz says she cannot fight her feelings for Gabe, but it is not like Adam.  Farko says that once you love that deeply and lose it too soon, it always has a claim on your heart.  And he looks wistful.


The custody meeting is going to take place at Sharon’s house, the idea being that the mediator will see a warm family environment.  Sharon is there with Dylan and the useless lawyer Sherman.  Sharon is fretting cause she knows that Avery hates her and especially now that she and Dylan are together.  She speculates that she has spreadsheets of all of her misdeeds ready to present at the meeting.  Dylan is her rock and he is clearly smitten with her.  Over at the UG Avery is badgering Dick prior to the custody hearing.  I think I know why JC has been let go; they saw her new hair colour and do, and said, nope, we cannot look at this anymore. Cause that is how I feel. I didn’t think they could make Avery look worse but she now looks like Andy Warhol.  Something is wrong there in any case.  So Avery is blah blah Sharon is crazy, Faith would be in danger, what happens if Dylan leaves her and comes back to me, blah blah.  Dick is like an idiot little kid trying to defend himself to her.  If I were Dick I would have told her to shut up.  She’s relentless.  Her new nickname should be Badger, which is also the Wisconsin state animal.  He’s worried that she is too close to the situation because of her feelings about Sharon and Dylan.  No, Badger doesn’t have any personal feelings about this and she is perfectly capable of representing Dick.  Meanwhile Sage is behind the bar making these weird glances at everything they are saying and I have to assume it is because she wants Sharon to get custody of Faith so that child of the corn is not around her precious cargo.  So maybe she’s worried that Badger is going to successfully freak Dick out and he will reneg on the deal.   After Badger leaves, Dick talks to Sage.  She tells Dick Sharon deserves a second chance.  Dick also made another speech about how parents make mistakes all the time.

 

Badger heads over to Sharon’s without Dick.  Sherman answers the door and gestures her in.  Badger acts as if she is crossing the threshold to hell.  Dylan and Badger get into it immediately. Yikes.  They are having a loud argument and Badger is attacking Sharon, and Dylan starts attacking Joe and it escalates.  The mediator arrives and says, WTF, I thought both parties have agreed to the new terms?  Yeah, me too!  The mediator asks a bunch of questions and of course they throw out that Sharon has an evil crazy past, and it looks like Dick may reneg, so Dylan says Faith will not be alone with Sharon.  He will be there.  That’s what you get Badger Bitch!  That’s okey-dokey with Dick cause he has no problem with his mentally ill bro taking care of his child, just his mentally ill wife, the child’s mother.  He’s chill and agrees to the deal. 

 

Prick goes to talk to Sage because he wants to find out more about Gabe and his relationship with his father.  Sage is friendly but evasive.  Gabe shows, and it gets tense between them, and Prick is a prick.  Prick wonders if Chelz knows that Gabe is protective of his ex-wife.  Prick says Gabe has been handed a high position at NA and  wants to know as much as he can about his employees.  Hah!  Prick is the one who handed him the position.  Gabe tells him to leave Sage alone and Prick says:  You cut the crap, next time I see you, you tell me about your father.  Gabe is worried about Sage and the effect of talking to Satan would have on her baby, and she said she thought she could handle the devil but apparently she cannot.  She tells Gabe that Prick wanted to know about Gabe’s relationship with his father, present tense.  Sage is worried what will happen to her if Nick finds out that she was lying about Gabe.  Nick goes to see Sage at the UG and tells her that he agreed to the one night a week visit for Faith and Sharon, with the stipulation that Dylan is there.  Nick tells her it is a failsafe; he is nervous about Faith alone with Sharon but as long as the other PTSD mentally ill person is there, it’s all good.  Sharon is over the moon and she is very thankful to Dylan, and he tells her he is not going anywhere.


Farko has flashbacks to being with Marissa in bed, and he has a porn stache and zero South American accent. He says he has to go and she says no, they have to stay together.  But he says he has to go, so that she can be safe.

 

Gabe visits Prick at the GCAC bar.  EB must be a good actor after all because I wanted to shoot my TV and I don’t have a gun.  But I was going to go buy one.  So Gabe tells Prick to leave Sage alone, and just talk to him.  Prick:  Are you feeling your oats son?  I was not messing with her, I was asking her questions.  Are you feeling nervous?  I was asking her about your father.  Harrison Bingham is not your dad, I know who you are, I know who your father is.  Next time do a better job covering your tracks.  Prick was incredibly smug and condescending and gross. Blech.


Previews: Neil to Drinki I do know something that can help me, revenge.  Kevin:  Am I the only one interested in finding justice. Paul:  No you are the only one under arrest;  and Sage and Dick are having dinner and she has major pain.

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That scene with Farko and Victor was gold! Freakin' loved how Victor was played. And Farko has that adorable bad boy thing going again.

 

Farko says, you told me Jack apparently has a kid that he barely acknowledges, and Prick says that son’s name is Keemo.  And Farko says:  Chemo, what the hell kind of name is that?  At least that is the spelling I think he heard!

 

Fantastic!! I'm amazed they mentioned Keemo. But it was fun. Kind of meta. The "unacknowledged kid" with a stupid name. lol.

 

Yes, more poor poor Jack. But I'm reasonably sure the beautiful woman will get him off the ship somehow. I quite liked the line Marko apparently used to say: "The situation is hopeless but not serious." Again, whoever is doing the scripts is doing some nice work (except when enormous exposition is required; then it sucks balls).

 

Farko has flashbacks to being with Marissa in bed, and he has a porn stache and zero South American accent. He says he has to go and she says no, they have to stay together.  But he says he has to go, so that she can be safe.

 

OMG the porn stache. I can't not laugh every time I see it. His hair is identical. Same bits of grey and everything. It's a tough one. If they played with his hair (colour since you can't do much with cut), it would be so silly (the stache is bad enough) the scene would be truly absurd. So I guess we roll with it. lol. I did detect a slight accent (he did a clipped thing -- "I must go."). Clearly PB is trying not to make an ass of himself while somewhat respecting the audience and the fact that his character is Latin American.

 

Nick tells her it is a failsafe; he is nervous about Faith alone with Sharon but as long as the other PTSD mentally ill person is there, it’s all good.  Sharon is over the moon and she is very thankful to Dylan, and he tells her he is not going anywhere.

 

I FFd this because I can't watch the stupidity of Sharon being subjected to this bullshit but did NO ONE mention the fact that Dylan has kidnapped a baby?

 

Meanwhile Sage is behind the bar making these weird glances at everything they are saying and I have to assume it is because she wants Sharon to get custody of Faith so that child of the corn is not around her precious cargo.

 

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Yes, more poor poor Jack. But I'm reasonably sure the beautiful woman will get him off the ship somehow. I quite liked the line Marko apparently used to say: "The situation is hopeless but not serious." Again, whoever is doing the scripts is doing some nice work (except when enormous exposition is required; then it sucks balls).

 

OMG the porn stache. I can't not laugh every time I see it. His hair is identical. Same bits of grey and everything. It's a tough one. If they played with his hair (colour since you can't do much with cut), it would be so silly (the stache is bad enough) the scene would be truly absurd. So I guess we roll with it. lol. I did detect a slight accent (he did a clipped thing -- "I must go."). Clearly PB is trying not to make an ass of himself while somewhat respecting the audience and the fact that his character is Latin American.

 

I FFd this because I can't watch the stupidity of Sharon being subjected to this bullshit but did NO ONE mention the fact that Dylan has kidnapped a baby?

That line was fantastic, I liked the way Marissa said it.  She seems very good.  The line is from a movie in the 1960s, it was the title of the movie, but I think it is based on a saying from earlier.

 

So I thought the fact that Marco doesn't have an accent was a bit of a clue for us.  Yes, he was in a Peruvian prison but we don't really know where he is from, do we?  This is me promoting my twins separated at birth storyline.

 

No, Sharon is the only unfit parent in GC.  Not Billy, not Ashley (who had her own mental health issues several times), not Paul(!), not Drinki, not Prick, not Dick, not Jill, not Katherine, not Chloe, not Phyllis and on and on we could go.  For some reason, Dylan's mental illness in which he endangered a child, is not a problem for Dick.  And I forgot to mention another scene.  While Gabe was upset at the thought of Prick haranguing a pregnant woman, when Dick shows up back the UG and he finds out that Prick came by to talk to Sage, she downplayed it and he was completely relaxed about it, and it was like, oh that Pricktor, that is the way he is, whatevs.  So they are all and always have been perfectly fine with turning a blind eye to Prick countless mercenary misdeeds, but Sharon is the evil.  Avery's vehement attacks on Sharon with both Dick and Dylan were positively shocking.  When women turn against each other.  

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Dang Bannana this is great!! Thank you! thank you! thank you!!! (;


There are two categories of soap crazy.

1. Generic Soap Insanity. Characters who suffer from this are never diagnosed with a specific illness, never see a therapist, and haven't spent time in a treatment facility. Their behavior runs the gamut from outright criminal behavior to snapping after a rejection. The GSI typically rears its ugly head when the plot demands it. Kelly is an example of this. Her character was all over the map, going from classy and functional to obsessed to outright violent and delusional. As far as the audience knows, she wasn't suffering from any real world disease, so her insanity could manifest itself however the storyline needed it to. This is the kind of crazy that's been a soap staple for decades.

2. Real Mental Illness. Self-explanatory. A character is diagnosed with a specific condition that has a specific course of treatment. A not insignificant number of viewers will know someone dealing with that illness or are living with it themselves. Watching a character be stigmatized and mocked and exploited can be realistic, as our society is quite ignorant about mental illness. The offense occurs when the mockers and exploiters are shown to be in the right and we're expected to applaud their callous behavior. Sharon was given bipolar disorder, and the writers need to deal with it. Nobody's asking for an afterschool special, preachy PSA type storyline; we're just asking for basic human decency. Acting like bipolar individuals are one missed pill away from brutally murdering puppies is grossly irresponsible. I would bet Victor Newman's bank account that the writers wouldn't heap abuse on diabetics, asthmatics, or hemophiliacs, but the mentally ill are fair game and this show isn't going to disabuse anyone of that prejudice.

There is a reason why no one here was protesting Patty's story on the show, and it's that this board didn't exist back then. It exists now, when Sharon is the whipping girl du jour, which is why her cruel treatment is the major focus of people's ire. If the writers wanted to make Sharon interesting and entertaining with wacky hijinks or wild schemes that irritate the ever-living fuck out of Genoa City, they had Generic Soap Insanity in their shitty sack of tropes. The show made its bipolar bed and now the show has to lie in it.

This is Golden!! Thanks Ninja!!!

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Well said Foghorn. I was disturbed by Patty's story and wrote emails to the network similar to the ones I am writing for Sharon's treatment. It has nothing to do with which character is involved but the level of disturbing material.

Yep, I can't stand Phyllis but I have voiced my opinion on this and other boards about the fact that she is being raped by a stranger hired by Victor. Also you could make the same argument for Chelsea and don't get me started on Kelly and Jack!! When something is wrong it's wrong even if it is not real I will speak up no matter who the character is!

 

This bipolar crap is totally being used to inject interest in stale stories and make Sharon the whipping post who is used again and again to do outrageous things and blaming it on her illness. What a crock!! And an insult to all the people suffering from mental disorders. Her's is the only illness the show constantly refers to while the other ones are never even mentioned. It's the gift that keeps on giving for Chuckles Pratt!!!

I loved this! The exchange between Gabe and Fack was so smooth, I couldn't help but smile once it happened.

JH is meshing well with all the characters,especially Fack and Victor!!!

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I think the difference is Patty was a transient character specifically brought in for a unique storyline and a tragic ending and then it is gone. Sharon is a heritage character and the outcome should be better, the viewers/fans expect her to feel better just like we do ourselves when/if faced with a similar illness.  We want to see her get diagnosed, be put on meds, have the occasional slip to reinforce the meds work but overall she moves on with her life seamlessly without a stigma attached to her forever.  Sharon could be any one of us.....

Sharon has been on this show for over 20 years and was married to a Newman son for over ten years (in real time) which is almost unheard of on a soap.She gave birth to the first heir of the third generation to the Newman fortune.She is a legacy character and connected to the core family on this soap.She has a very huge fan base.

 

She was originally written as a poor girl who had made mistakes but had a heart of gold and fell in love with a rich man's son.I instantly fell in love with her back then and have enjoyed her story lines especially when she was with her young children. I loved all the holidays and all the heart warming scenes with her and her family.Bill Bell had a great way of making her every day life seem like real life in so many ways.Now she is just used to be a person scorned and ridiculed for a mental disorder!

 

That's why there is so much dislike for the way she has constantly been trashed and used by the writers in the last few years just to infuse interest in a boring story and prop up and take the blame off other characters. Josh G. did her no favors in creating this disease to explain the totally out of character writing for her over the years. It was a terrible idea.They should have just given her a brain tumor and a successful operation to remove it.But of course then they would have no excuse for her doing crazy things like changing a paternity test to absolve Nick of the blame of his 18 year lie!

 

Now it is becoming absurd for the way her fans are treated because who can enjoy a character who has been beaten down so many times that even now when she is relatively happy we have to sit around and wonder if this will be the day Sharon will go off her meds and do something horrible or crazy? We know it's coming because Pratt has told us so. I don't see other characters or their fans treated like this so why in the hell should Sharon's fans be? 

 

And I firmly believe that Sharon was going to be involved in some way in the exit of JC's Avery. I don't buy that weak story about Avery and Joe for one second!! I am just happy that somebody pulled the plug on it but I really don't trust Chuckles Pratt in squandering an opportunity to have a shock and awe story that will blow everyone's minds and just blame it on Crazy Sharon being off her meds. I am dreading the time when Avery makes her exit! 

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What happened to JesC's hair? I think the cut and colour are too severe for her. Her makeup was harsh as well. Now it did suit her bitchy personality in this episode but I'm not keen on it. MMV

OMG YES!!!  I paused the show to stare at it.  Super bleached, unhealthy looking and very severe compared to what she had before.  Maybe it is for a new role or something.  And they parted Sharon's hair down the middle again.  When do middle parts EVER work better than a side part....answer=NEVER!  LOL

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It would be comedy gold if the show ran with the "Jack is Gabriel Bingham's father" fib that Farko told with such delight. Keep it going just long enough for Gabe and Jack (real or fake) to squash the human dung beetle. I'm not really into Farko's whole backstory; I just need him to vex Victor and manipulate the rubes with boyish glee.

Dylan's mental illness is different than Sharon's because he's a MAN. A tree man, sure (a man tree? A manatree!), but he's got a Lincoln log between his legs. In Genoa City, the dames are frail and prone to hysteria while penis packers are troubled souls that build character by struggling with their illness.

Paul should arrest himself for serial violations against various fabrics. Imagine being a pair of jeans, hanging on a rack with your bootcut buds, when suddenly you're dragged into a changing stall and forced to embrace a sweaty scrotum. Where's the fucking justice then, Chief? At least Kevin is being proactive and trying to get shit done.

Please stop trying to make Cilantro happen, show. I shouldn't want a character to get a Rexx Rugs rundown this badly. You ran this same game with Chelsea (scammer, implanting them with a legacy baby), and there's still an APB out for my fuck to give about her. Gosh, I hope random members of Sucky Spice's family are added to the canvas. Also, I'll eat Farko's Ferrari tires if Nick actually knows what a failsafe is.

Avery...just...I got nothing. Don't go out on a balcony with her, Sharon!

Did Neil say something about revenge? Could that herald the return of....THE SILVER BRIEFCASE OF RIGHTEOUS JUSTICE?

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I have a feeling the purpose of Farko's backstory is solely to introduce Marisa to the canvas. 

 

That line was fantastic, I liked the way Marissa said it.  She seems very good.  The line is from a movie in the 1960s, it was the title of the movie, but I think it is based on a saying from earlier.

 

Ah, was it? I do like Marisa. The actress seems good. That could have been campy but it wasn't. Take notes Cady McClain.
 

So I thought the fact that Marco doesn't have an accent was a bit of a clue for us.  Yes, he was in a Peruvian prison but we don't really know where he is from, do we?  This is me promoting my twins separated at birth storyline.

 

I hope so, Banana. Pratt clearly loves PB (as does JFP) and I can see them trying to find a way to keep Farko around.

 

What the hell kind of accent was Jack using on the ship and why!!!??

 

I heard something weird when he said "Help me." But I think it was PB enunciating and yelling all at once. Don't think there was an accent. 

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As others have stated, I was shocked (OK, not really) that Dick was OK with leaving Faith in Dylan's care. Isn't he worried that her uncle might kidnap her?

 

I don't understand (OK again, yep I really do) why Sharon is the only person that people appear to be terrified of. Drinkii almost dropped her newborn granddaughter on her head. And even when she isn't drinking, Nikki has been shown several times to have an 'episode' of sudden weakness due to her MS. Should she be allowed to care for her grandchildren in such a delicate state?

 

Then there is Phyllis. There is no pill that she can take to control her narcissist personality disorder. Phyllis has been more dangerous over the years that Sharon could ever dream of being. But Nick who was married to her and Avery who is her sister just laugh it off as Phyllis being Phyllis. Mind you since MS left the writers appear to be toning down Phyllis's own brand of crazy. But still, how do you know she is just not going to someday try to run someone over for the fun of it?

 

And then there is Herb. Wait until Dick finds out that she saved his brother and has passed him off as someone else for well over a year now. And lied to him over and over and over. Maybe not such 'mother of the year' material as he (for some unknown reason since he really barely knows her) keeps telling her she will be.

 

Come to think of it of the three (possible) mothers of Nick's children, Sharon to me is the cream of the crop. By far.

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We want to see her get diagnosed, be put on meds, have the occasional slip to reinforce the meds work but overall she moves on with her life seamlessly without a stigma attached to her forever.  Sharon could be any one of us.....

I know lots that don't want her diagnosed. That don't want her on her meds. I love her off her meds much more. God forbid anyone in real is like Sharon in reel. 

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Ah, was it? I do like Marisa. The actress seems good. That could have been campy but it wasn't. Take notes Cady McClain.

Has Cady's portrayal of Kelly been down to her, or has she merely been following the director's instructions? (I guess I should begin by asking about which segment of Kelly's online life you're referring to.)

 

Regarding Kelly's turn into a zany villain, I thought TPTB wanted Kelly to be Cornball Crazy--or whatever it was that Ninja explained in the first point of her amazing post. When someone's aiming for Generic Soap Nut, I expect them to hit the highest campy notes they can find.

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Has Cady's portrayal of Kelly been down to her, or has she merely been following the director's instructions?

 

 

Cady was campy last year when playing falling in love with Jack IMO (one scene in particular in her briefly held loft comes to mind). If they directed her in her recent scenes (which I'm not convinced they did), they were just "playing to her strengths."

 

SH' Patty and KB's Sheila both played nutty with depth. Doesn't have to be a joke. I think CM was dreadful for her whole run.

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I've never fucked my stalker before, but is that really a valid excuse for missing work? Should a person get a note from their stalker? I get so confused by corporate etiquette. Like, if you're employed by a company where you've sexed up two of your supervisors and a marketing muffin, who do you notify first about your chlamydia, the first woman you nailed or the lowest paid? Maybe you just go in alphabetical order?

I've been kind of dreading having to re-draft an employee guide in the next couple of weeks, but you've given me inspiration.  

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I look for Adam to get outed -as Adam - and Jack will recover a memory of Smelly confessing to the hit and run. Adam gets out of jail and no one says sorry.


Billy lets Johny ride on the roof of the car and then tries to kill the tree that hit him.


Connor swipes his forehead at his close call.

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Paul should arrest himself for serial violations against various fabrics. Imagine being a pair of jeans, hanging on a rack with your bootcut buds, when suddenly you're dragged into a changing stall and forced to embrace a sweaty scrotum. Where's the fucking justice then, Chief? At least Kevin is being proactive and trying to get shit done.

Did Neil say something about revenge? Could that herald the return of....THE SILVER BRIEFCASE OF RIGHTEOUS JUSTICE?

 

Your posts bend my mind in the most delightful and unexpected ways!  It's a magical mystery tour, thanks to you.  

 

I don't know if I can process all the vivid imagery you've conjured up.....but I did highlight a few things that somehow just go together......

 

I MIGHT just be going to hell.....in which case, Show has been a marvelous prep tool!

 

I fully expect that Neil, like the magician he is, to pull that briefcase of justice directly out of his ass.

 

Some folks have rabbits in hats, or scarves up the sleeves, or nickels behind the ear, but this IS Neil.....

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What happened to JesC's hair? I think the cut and colour are too severe for her. Her makeup was harsh as well. Now it did suit her bitchy personality in this episode but I'm not keen on it. MMV

It was so harsh looking.. way overdone on the white blonde.

 

Phyllis has been more dangerous over the years that Sharon could ever dream of being

Not anymore. The new writers have decided Phyllis is not the evil one. But Sharon is. 

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SH' Patty and KB's Sheila both played nutty with depth. Doesn't have to be a joke. I think CM was dreadful for her whole run.

ITA so much. Patty and Sheila were 2 of my all time characters.. crazy or not I loved them.. not so thrilled with the current crazies.

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Melrose Place was good with having absolutely crazy bitchs that the acting didn't become clown-y hammy farce.

Gone With the Wind was perfectly cast and no remake could touch it. The only actor that was iffy was Leslie Howard as Ashley he wasn't as "pretty" as Ashley is described but he did capture Ashley's weariness. He was supposed to be slightly older than Scarlett but looked and was much older. Vivien Leigh. Such a great beauty. And her performance was A++. Melanie was meant to look like a light emitted from her from the inside out and be good and sweet but without any insincerity or cloying ways. And to be plain, attractive enough but plain in that; not unique or compelling. Olivia De Havilland represent all well. The casting and acting from the ultimate loving Mammy, Annoying Prissy, Scarlett's sisters, India, sleazy Jonas, old maid Frank, the town cackling judgy hens ect ect could not be better.

The only actors that could have played Rhett in update is Christian Bale or young Daniel Day Lewis. Scarlett maybe Alison Lohman or Michelle Williams with their hair dyed.

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Now imagine Gone With the Wind in the hands of Jill Ferret Fathead and Pratty.

 

We'd have Hunter King as Scarlett - I can hear her now..."Ath God ith muy withnethss, Oylll nethaw gwo hwungy again".  

 

And Eric Braden as Rhett, of course, wheezing his way out of Scarlett's life, spanx holding him together as he mumbles, "Frankly, my dear, I DON'T GIVE A DAMN!  YOU GOT THAT!!"

 

Fiddle de dee indeed.

 

Not even a knife under the bed could cut THIS pain in two.

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So would that make Gnome Ashley Wilkes? And Kneel could be Mammy- "It ain't fittin', it just ain't fittin'"  Oh, Lawdy.

 

I like Ashley too much for that.  I'd cast Gnome as Suellen - I can hear him now "Just LOOK at my hands!  Mamma always said you could tell a garden gnome by his hands".

 

And Neil, well, to me he'd be Aunt Pitty Pat "Yankees in Georgia!  How did they EVAH get in?!??  Scarlett, quick, my smelling salts!"

Just imagine Aunt Pitty Pat Neil  doing the intevention with the briefcase of justice hidden under his voluminous skirts.

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And Pauly, Cane and Darvon can be the bitchy old busybodies who are always trying to get Scarlett into trouble.

Of course Melanie would be Jack, poor Jack.

 

Perfect!  Can't you just hear Paulie Tightpockets, tightly encased in his black crinoline and lace, facing down Scarlett and pipsqeaking at her for a donation to the  Association for the Beautification of the Graves of the Glorious Dead.

 

Darvon could be that poor Mrs. Meade, too fluttery for words.  Cane could be any character as long as he's KILLED immediately. I'd also accept him as either a fencepost, or that carrot Scarlett gnaws the top of as she's near to Tara.

 

Nikki would be lucky to get the Belle Watling role.  Hell, maybe Stitch would be more appropriate.

 

And poor Jack as Melanie - it's PERFECT!

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The more I think about Pratt's assertion that Sharon is more interesting off her meds, the more disturbing it becomes. She is taking medication prescribed by a doctor to treat a legitimate illness. Would Pratt find the following situations "interesting?"

Victor no longer takes his medication for epilepsy. He falls to the floor in the GCAC and has a grand mal seizure while other patrons point and laugh.

Summer accidentally inhales a peanut but forgot her epi pen. People stare at her as if she's a grotesque monster while her face and tongue swell and her throat closes.

Nikki forgets her MS meds and is in constant pain. Most days she can hardly walk. Victoria denies her mother visits with the grandkids, because an unmedicated MS patient is dangerous.

No one would, I hope, want to watch people suffer like that for entertainment. A mentally ill character like Sharon doesn't want to act out and be manic; her pain may not manifest itself as visibly as someone with epilepsy or allergies, but it's there nonetheless. Yet only one kind of disease is ripe to be exploited for zany hijinks.

If Pratt wants Sharon to do bad things, have her be medicated and still choose to do them. Don't take the cheap route and snatch away her meds and stability so everyone can point and laugh at the nut.

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Perfect!  Can't you just hear Paulie Tightpockets, tightly encased in his black crinoline and lace, facing down Scarlett and pipsqeaking at her for a donation to the  Association for the Beautification of the Graves of the Glorious Dead.

 

Darvon could be that poor Mrs. Meade, too fluttery for words.  Cane could be any character as long as he's KILLED immediately. I'd also accept him as either a fencepost, or that carrot Scarlett gnaws the top of as she's near to Tara.

 

Nikki would be lucky to get the Belle Watling role.  Hell, maybe Stitch would be more appropriate.

 

And poor Jack as Melanie - it's PERFECT!

I dunno, maybe Dullyn would be the fence post and Lauren could be the carrot (natch).  Dummer could be Bonnie- "Look at meeee!" *thump" 

Us- "Yay!!"

Nikki as Belle- Yes!  She even gets to shack up with "Rhett".

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Summer accidentally inhales ... her epi pen. People stare at her as if she's a grotesque monster while her face and tongue swell and her throat closes.

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My apologies for editing your post, but I felt the deep need to connect Summer inhaling her epi pen with grotesque monster and such.  It's just such a beautiful image!

 

  Dummer could be Bonnie- "Look at meeee!" *thump" 

Us- "Yay!!"

 

 

Dummer and "Look at Meeeee!" just go together like swamp water and malaria, don' they?

And Bonnie Lee Butler, the first cinema child I devoutly wished to see the end of.  Scarlett should NOT have wasted her time birthin' that baby.  No doubt she would have grown into Dummer in a bustle.  

 

Then Rhett truly wouldn't have given a damn.

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Ninja, (did you know that you were once the "word" that jm and ms used in their game?

 

anyway, off the track, victor is CURED of his epilepsy.

 

apparently he had an experimental laser treatment and it worked. 

 

just as adam's retinitis pigmentosa was cured in an experimental operation I think it was.

 

I want it to come out that Sharon was misdiagnosed with bipolar disorder and she really has a brain tumor that is growing.

not cancerous or malignant, just growing.

then after a 7 hr operation, she will be cured, no more pills etc. :)

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Sharon has already had a tumor removed. It weighed in at around 185 pounds, smelled of Axe body wash, and answered to the name "Nick."

 

He done cleaned up REAL GOOD!  Sooooo ready for Sage.  And the lil' sprout off the Newman oak. 

anyway, off the track, victor is CURED of his epilepsy.

 

And he's among that amazing minority of one who've had heart transplants who apparently are able to drink bucketfuls while boxing and beating opponents centuries younger.

Miracles, they DO happen!

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There has also never been mention of Victor taking anti rejection medications. Instead, he said to Colleen's heart "you don't reject ME I reject YOU, yougotthat?!?!?!"

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The more I think about Pratt's assertion that Sharon is more interesting off her meds, the more disturbing it becomes. She is taking medication prescribed by a doctor to treat a legitimate illness. Would Pratt find the following situations "interesting?"

Victor no longer takes his medication for epilepsy. He falls to the floor in the GCAC and has a grand mal seizure while other patrons point and laugh.

Summer accidentally inhales a peanut but forgot her epi pen. People stare at her as if she's a grotesque monster while her face and tongue swell and her throat closes.

Nikki forgets her MS meds and is in constant pain. Most days she can hardly walk. Victoria denies her mother visits with the grandkids, because an unmedicated MS patient is dangerous.

No one would, I hope, want to watch people suffer like that for entertainment. A mentally ill character like Sharon doesn't want to act out and be manic; her pain may not manifest itself as visibly as someone with epilepsy or allergies, but it's there nonetheless. Yet only one kind of disease is ripe to be exploited for zany hijinks.

If Pratt wants Sharon to do bad things, have her be medicated and still choose to do them. Don't take the cheap route and snatch away her meds and stability so everyone can point and laugh at the nut.

  

Well said, Ninja. Sadly, that is how mental disorders are treated, and then we tell them to move along.

 

Sharon's case is more complex than the writer's want to admit.  (They should probably find out more about the disease, duh.)  Some of her behavior may be attributable to her upbringing, her mother's actions (being called 'gurl' instead of your name could do some lasting damage on an ego) and the transition to poor girl (gurl) to millionaire's wife and  that social circle....which has nothing to do with bi-polar. On-going therapy (not just 'meds') would address these issues.

 

Which brings me to another gripe that Ninja's post reminded me to consider.  Many of the characters have mental, personality and medical issues that only appear when the writers need them.  Not that I want a soap with PSAs beaten into me every day-but if you are going to give a character a disorder or disease then work it into their life/story. Don't just bring it up for shock value.  Especially Victor.  He's got a heart transplant and epilepsy so bad he needed a service dog (who is MIA,by the by) and he's old as dirt.  (My age, probably).  His machinations and fists of virility don't make sense given his health issues.  Instead of suing him for billions about a trust fund, his kids should pursue a conservatorship.  He's clearly unable to take care of himself and is a danger to others.  Nikki-see a real therapist for a few years to learn how to cope with your stressors.  And testify at the conservator hearing about Prick keeping a full bar in your home even tho he knows you are an alcoholic.

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Which brings me to another gripe that Ninja's post reminded me to consider.  Many of the characters have mental, personality and medical issues that only appear when the writers need them.  Not that I want a soap with PSAs beaten into me every day-but if you are going to give a character a disorder or disease then work it into their life/story. Don't just bring it up for shock value.  Especially Victor.  He's got a heart transplant and epilepsy so bad he needed a service dog (who is MIA,by the by) and he's old as dirt.  (My age, probably).  His machinations and fists of virility don't make sense given his health issues.  Instead of suing him for billions about a trust fund, his kids should pursue a conservatorship.  He's clearly unable to take care of himself and is a danger to others.  Nikki-see a real therapist for a few years to learn how to cope with your stressors.  And testify at the conservator hearing about Prick keeping a full bar in your home even tho he knows you are an alcoholic.

 

On-point, MollyB!

 

Speaking of points, yes, the writers now use diseases/physical mishaps primarily as plot-points [i used the word point three times there--why?]. Okay, if diseases/mishaps fall into one of two traditional soapagories [and here I bow to NinjaP and her smart division of soap mental disorders]: (1) the not-deadly but serious enough to be gripping, perhaps chronic but not physically defacing, soap ailment; perhaps Nikki's MS and Victor's epilepsy*** would fit here, and (2) the very traditional and nearly always curable soap tumour [see also brain tumour, miraculous cure of Lily, Ashley's whatever]--these are the good old angsty staples of the soapy vicissitudes of life, and generally end in a miracle/recast/change of writers].

 

Where Nikki and real therapy are concerned, she's been touched by an angel, so that's probably enough for the moment. When you get a free-standing episode, you're considered cured.

 

***What the hell happened to Victor's epilepsy? I kinda enjoyed it. More importantly, where did the dog go? Back to Central Canine Casting? Off to the Kennel of Eternal Rest with Humphrey, Zapata, Segundo, and whatever Sharon and Nick's dog was called? Show is hard on dogs.

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vic got an experimental but highly successful treatment for his epilepsy and is now cured.

I think it was done with a "laser" or something like that.

 

Oh my god, seriously?

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He can find a miracle cure for coma, he can find doppelgängers and long lost lookalikes/twins at the drop of hat. This asshole can do anything. Maybe he will find a miracle shot to cure alcoholism for his "baby" and a cure for her MS when he gets around to giving a shit about that.

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It was tough to be motivated to do a recap today considering this was a boring show, except for:  Harding is back!

 

Other Faith is also back and she sees Grandpa Prick at CL.  He finds out that she is spending the night with Sharon.  After she leaves, Prick asks Dick what the hell he is thinking!  Prick thinks that Sharon manipulated Dick.  Prick is worried that Dick has forgotten all of the terrible things she’s done, and Dick, amazingly, says that he could bring up a long list of Prick’s transgressions, and Prick says: we are not discussing that right now.  Hah!  Hey, Prick, do you realize you are holding a man hostage and torturing him and possibly forced him into murder?  Dick told Prick to pay attention to his own house, and says if Prick had paid more attention to Drinki and left Dick and Sharon alone, then maybe…And Prick is pissed that Dick is suggesting that he somehow contributed to Drinki’s tumble off the wagon.  Prick says it has nothing to do with him that she was drinking.  Then he says: do you honestly think that allowing Faith to be in Sharon’s hands again is going to calm your mother down?  For that matter, you impregnated your woman after you hardly know her, do you think that is going to put her mind at ease?  Dick wants to know what happened with Drinki and Loser Guy.  Prick doesn’t want to discuss that, but says that he wanted to visit Drinki but there are no visitors allowed, and Dick spills that Neil went to visit Drinki.  Rut roh.


Sharon is freaking out about Faith coming and is on a cleaning frenzy and fussing about, and Dylan asks her if she stopped taking her meds.  Sheesh, a person can’t even have anxiety of the good kind without being accused of forgetting your meds.  He hugs her and calms her down.  She is just concerned that all goes well so that she can hopefully get Faith back.  When Faith shows up she is super excited.  Sharon thanks Dick and he leaves.  Sharon asks Faith if she is happy that Dylan is there and she says yes, he’s fun and he’s her uncle, and she likes him a lot better than smelly Sage!  Preach it, Faith!  Faith asks Sharon and Dylan to make her a new baby brother or sister.    Sharon says a lot of thought has to go into a decision like that.  And Faith is fine with that and happy about the new sheets on her bed.  She’s just happy all around.  Dylan and Sharon kiss.  Dylan tells Sharon she is fantastic mom and he should never have doubted her. I think he wants her to be his mommy.

 

Drinki is wearing a plaid shirt and a messy ponytail at Home (rehab) and Neil is visiting. Drinki is apologizing for how she treated him like crap and he is apologizing for stuff he said.  It was interesting to hear Neil say that he hadn’t had a drink in months.  That might be true but it feels like just the other day Drinki bounced her car into the parking lot of Rexx Rugs.  Neil confesses that he has problems, his anger issues.  He wants to get revenge on Hevon.  Drinki doesn’t think that is a healthy solution to his issues.  That doesn’t stop him from verbalizing his fantasies of taking Devon’s money, or locking them in a pit.  Neil leaves, and Drinki starts her session with Angel.  She informs him that they can fastrack her recovery cause she has been here, done this, before.  She knows why she drank, because she had 18 months of severe stress, Katherine’s death, her children’s problems, her asshole husband.  And then she realizes she is making excuses for her drinking.  She says she is looking for strength and Angel wants to know why she can’t get that at her real home.  They talk about Prick and how he controls Drinki.  And then Angel gets a text from security that Prick is there wanting to see Drinki.  Angel sees Prick and tells him he cannot see Drinki, but Prick says Neil saw her, and Prick is the guy who got her to go to rehab, and no one gets to say no to Pricktor Newman.  Angel tells Prick that love is not enough, and that drinking is not the only pitfall for an addict.  Prick says (with Drinki listening on the other side of the wall):  I have lived with my wife’s addiction for years, I have pulled her back from the brink of despair more often than I can count.  Angel:  Then maybe it is time for your wife to save herself.  Prick:  Then maybe it is time for you to tell her to face me and come out here and talk to me.  Angel says it is not his decision, it is Drinki’s—she doesn’t want to see Prick and she doesn’t want him to be there.

 

Lily in the meantime is haranguing Hevon at the GCAC.  Hilary has her divorce papers for Neil to sign and he is going to meet her there later.  She tells Lily she doesn’t want any of Neil’s money, and Lily is like, uh yeah, you’ve got Devon’s money.  You would certainly have to pay me to sleep with Devon, so I don’t blame her if she is after his money.  Devon says he wants to be there when Neil and Hilary sign the divorce papers and both Lily and Hilary tell him he’s seriously deranged.   He leaves.  Neil shows up.  Hilary is blah blahing to him but Neil is fantasizing about the things he could do to get revenge.  Then he signs the divorce papers.  Devon and Lily watch from a distance and idiot Hilary says I really hope you and Devon can get past this.  Then Hilary walks out with Devon.  Oh boy.  Neil follows them.  Stalker Neil is back!


Dummer and Gnome are at CL.  They are upset with Mariah because she believes Kevin when he says that the killer is still out there.  Not sure why they care, if they don’t think he’s right, why are they even in this convo with Mariah?  Oh, I know, because they keep pushing her and she admits that she loves Kevin.  Awww…  Gnome and Dummer are badgering Kevin about the fact that he is still not convinced that Tobias is the killer. This is the weirdest storyline.  Why can’t Kevin and Mariah think what they think, without Gnome and Dummer yelling at them?  Kevin wonders the same thing as I did. Dummer tells Kevin that she wants to move on, and Kevin is making her relive it over and over.  Mariah waffles on her support for Kevin and he walks out.

 

Chief Tighty Pants is telling Kevin that he has had his best detective look at the murder investigation evidence and everyone agrees, it is Tobias.  Kevin:  best detective, who would that be?  Harding walks in.  Kevin:  Harding, that is a loose interpretation of the word best, and a loose interpretation of the word detective.  Harding:  I’ve been gone for months and I bet you’ve been talking the whole time.  Harding won’t tell Kevin where he’s been for months.  He has the DNA evidence though.  Kevin thinks this will help them reopen the case, but Harding says the DNA on the envelope is Tobias’.  Kevin says maybe the DNA is wrong.  Paul says that would require a high level plan at the FBI.  When Paul and Harding are alone, Harding says he doesn’t want to agree with Kevin cause he’s a little toad, but he thinks he’s right.  Paul said he was in DC and questioned the FBI.  He cannot understand why the FBI would cover this up.  Harding thinks the evidence is too perfectly laid out.  Paul asks Harding about what Tobias’ parents say.  Seriously Paul, now you are interviewing people and checking Tobias’ whereabouts during the murders?  Sigh.  Turns out his parents say he had an alibi for the night of Austin’s murder but none for the night of Courtney’s murder.  Paul tells Harding he can investigate on the down low.  Harding returns with evidence of a leak in the department, and he is pointing at Kevin as the only other person who had the information.  There is a post on GC Buzz that says the police are unconvinced that Tobias is the killer.  Paul calls Kevin a little twerp and arrests him for obstruction of justice.


Dick has planned a private dinner at the UG for Sage and him, which isn’t really that big a deal since he doesn’t ever really have customers.  She gets emotional that he is doing this for the baby and he says he is not just doing it cause he loves the baby, and she interprets that as he loves her.  Whoops!  But he says, Sage, this dinner is a thank you, for all the crap she has dealt with.  And then she says, Dick I was just hoping that….OUCH!  Sage is having cramps and she cannot walk.  At the hospital Sage and Dick learn that she has acute appendicitis.  She has to have surgery which puts the fetus at risk and if she doesn’t have surgery her appendix can rupture and kill both of them.  Am I the only one who truly doesn't care about Sage or Dick or this baby?  This is the worst storyline.  As unbelievable as Avery and Dick were, this is a thousand times worse.

 

Previews:  Gabe to Farko:  This charade is getting harder and harder to pull off; Kevin to Mikey:  the real killer got away with it and I am the only one who is questioning that; Jack to main Bad Guy:  I am being held here against my will and I want my family to be contacted, at which point BG hits him on the head hard.  Poor Jack.

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Now you just leave Paul Williams alone. Here we have a man who wears pants so tight that they've compressed his balls to the size of raisins. Fortunately Christine enjoys a low calorie, high protein bite-sized snack. Hasn't the man suffered enough?

No, banana, you are most certainly not the only one who couldn't give an aardvark's anus about Cilantro, Dickwhistle, and their misbegotten Bingo baby. I wonder why Faith needs to be told that making babies takes a lot of thought? It can't have anything to do with Nicholas spraying his sperm all over Genoa City like one of those out of control fire hoses from the cartoons.

Before you get all high and mighty, Detective Harding, I suggest you go take a look at the low down dirty dog Abby's been burning up the bedsheets with. She'll kiss anything apparently. Now leave Kevin alone and go taser Stitch's sex syringe.

Let Gnome and Summer enjoy their false sense of security, Kevin and Mariah. Farko can sneak up on them, realize they're dumb enough to drown in a rainstorm, and satisfy himself by giving Kyle an atomic wedgie, which, by the way, is far more egregious when the victim's underwear are ceramic and painted on.

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Thanks for the recap, Bannana! I agree, the Sage/Dick pairing is a major fail & I couldn't care less about the paternity of the baby. The way this has played out, I predict these two will split up soon. On a shallow note, am I the only one that thinks Sage has the worst wardrobe?? The ultra tight and weirdly cut out dresses she's been sporting are awful! And I think she's just unattractive and manipulating. I am not buying what she's telling Dick about everyone deserves a second chance when referring to Sharon. I hate that she got into Dick's custody business and told Dick in front of Faith that maybe he should let Faith spend one night a week with Sharon. I mean I'm glad Sharon gets to have more time with Faith, but it was so wrong and awkward for Sage to suggest it. Yeah, Sage is definitely being written as unlikeable and awkward. I don't think she and Dick last half the summer, plus it looks like they're gearing us up for a big reveal that Gabe is Adam. I want to know what they're planning for Ashley -- obviously they want us to know she's unhappy, lonely and taking medication. I also think she's sexually attracted to Adam, hmmm. I don't like what's going on with Jack, they're stringing this out sooo long and my guess is he ends up in a Peruvian prison and falls in love with Marco's ex.

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Unless Jack fell through a time vortex he should keep shouting "Look up Jack Abbott on Google." True they might think Fack is the real guy but the extreme resemblance should give them pause. You know... them computin' machines.

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