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Just now, WendyCR72 said:

Yes.

Thanks.  I have no idea why it didn't record.  I'll have to catch it on demand.

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2 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

I couldn't watch and my DVR didn't pick it up. 

The same with mine.  Probably because, on the day it was supposed to air, they ran a rerun episode about the theft of the chlorine tank.  However, it was labeled as "My Brother's Keeper", so I'm betting that DVRs catalogued it as already viewed, and didn't record it the second time.  That is, if your DVR, like mine, is set to new only.  Oh well, an episode missed.  Not a cataclysmic event with this series.

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The Serial Bomber's Brother wasn't completely off the mark when he made the remark about how things usually turn out when law enforcement deals with the mentally ill: "We want to help you .. but we kinda want to shoot you, too."

When Serial Bomber's Brother came back to talk to Maggie at the end about how he overlooked all the signs that his brother was going off the rails - because that was easier - - I sort of wish he would have paused and said "You do realize that we're totally talking about you and your sister, right?"
  Maggie could have replied: "I know, I know .. I should have known as soon as I saw those crazy bangs..  That was definitely a crystal meth hairdo."

 

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I'm glad that FBI writers pointed out the police mixed with mental illness all to often ends in death, but they whipped out any good work that could have done by making the brother violent. Paranoid schizophrenics are less likely than healthy people to be violent. Much less likely. 

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On 4/16/2021 at 4:16 PM, blackwing said:

I haven't really watched much of either FBI or FBI Most Wanted.  I am intrigued with the upcoming FBI International show.  But didn't someone already do this show?  It was called "Criminal Minds: Beyond Borders" and I thought it was great but apparently viewers didn't think so.  Will be interesting to see what kind of approach FBI International takes to make it different from BB and I think a lot depends on the cast.

Oooooo, didn't hear about that show, and I also liked the other one you mentioned.  Looking forward to it now that you told me about it.  I really like this show, too, but for some reason, most people seem to like the Most Wanted version more.

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22 hours ago, Dowel Jones said:

The same with mine.  Probably because, on the day it was supposed to air, they ran a rerun episode about the theft of the chlorine tank.  However, it was labeled as "My Brother's Keeper", so I'm betting that DVRs catalogued it as already viewed, and didn't record it the second time.  That is, if your DVR, like mine, is set to new only.  Oh well, an episode missed.  Not a cataclysmic event with this series.

I'll watch it this weekend on demand.   

I don't remember if it was one or both FBI shows but my cable company preempted it with coverage of the Chauvin verdict.  My DVR recorded it, labeled it FBI but it wasn't so I erased it.

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2 hours ago, AnnA said:

I'll watch it this weekend on demand.   

I don't remember if it was one or both FBI shows but my cable company preempted it with coverage of the Chauvin verdict.  My DVR recorded it, labeled it FBI but it wasn't so I erased it.

That whole night of new episodes was preempted during the time the coverage was on along with reruns after it was over.

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54 minutes ago, Jaded said:

That whole night of new episodes was preempted during the time the coverage was on along with reruns after it was over.

Yeah.   It took me a while to figure out that my DVR didn't record this week's episodes because of last week.  

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I finally got around to watching this week's episode on demand and didn't care for it at all.  The story was boring and the added side story about Maggie's sister was even worse.  I missed Tiffany and Scola.  I think they're more interesting than Maggie and OA.   

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On 4/30/2021 at 8:56 PM, AnnA said:

I finally got around to watching this week's episode on demand and didn't care for it at all.  The story was boring and the added side story about Maggie's sister was even worse.  I missed Tiffany and Scola.  I think they're more interesting than Maggie and OA.   

Agreed the story wasn’t original and wasn’t very intriguing, and I believe I like Tiffany and Scola better than Maggie and OA as well, while I like Maggie and OA, they can both be a bit self righteous at times, I find Scola and Tiffany more enjoyable a lot of the time, and they weren’t in this episode much. Also there wasn’t nearly enough Jubal or the office analysts. 

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I didn't mind the latest episode, but I have to say that I've been enjoying Most Wanted more because at least the real story is flanked by the personal stuff instead of having it woven throughout like in FBI. I'm able to skip the first 3 or so minutes and the last 3 or so minutes, so I don't have to watch the personal stuff. I just had to work my FF button a little more this episode. 

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Another week with a main character's personal matter relating a little with the main plot. What's in store for OA next week with his cousin or parents?

Tyler has been vomitting, high fever, eyes blood shot and Samantha didn't seem it was neccessary to call Jubal earlier. Oh! Let's meet at a diner. Before telling Jubal the news, she had a grin as if nothing was wrong.

Can't blame the cab driver. He was already passed them when the Adam hailed him. Was calling him a shmuck neccessary? A true yogi wouldn't behave this way. I don't think Nicole was impressed. 

Did Octavio have intel Nicole was an anesthesiologist or just pick anyone that walked out the door? 

Pedro and Lorenzo couldn't find a better place to meet? If I'm Pedro, I'm getting paid before I'm giving my kidney. I'm not waiting until afterwards and getting a brown paper bag on the sidewalk. Could have been fake bills in there. 

Damn Lorenzo! The truck wasn't big or blue enough to see out of the corner of your eye? I was rooting for your escape too. Take solace in knowing: maybe the truck driver got a ticket for speeding down the street!???

When they mentioned Dr. Nelson was in a car accident, the agents never considered if the abductions and his accident were related in some way.

What was the point of having the agent in disguise on the bike if "FBI" clearly seen on his chest?

Octavio was dumb enough to shoot and lucky none of the return fire hit his son.

When they tossed the phone to Octavio, I thought it would be some flash bomb to distract him and then they could rush in.

Caldwell already made the incision to Tony and he was lying on the table for a long time. Kid could have bled out.

After hearing Octavio's story for getting Tony help, it probabaly crossed Jubal's mind a few times to do the surgery himself.

Credit to Jubal for making that tough decision. 

Caldwell thought it was too risky to bring in another anesthesiologist and had to cancel. I suspect he was too cheap to pay someone else. Too bad he didn't know Nicole before all this. She seemed fine, down to assist the surgery and not traumatized afterwards. A little forgetful to bring the kidney was her only mistake. 

Find good lawyers Dr. Caldwell and Dr. Nelson! When you get out of surgery/coma, it's jail time.

 

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Pretty good episode although I get a bit sick of how they sometimes tie a personal theme into the case of the week. I always like a Jubal centric episode as he’s probably my favorite character, and I liked how he handled the situation, he did everything he could to get the kidnapper to surrender but he made the difficult but correct call to take him out as he wasn’t going to surrender.

The investigation was good and I liked how they tracked down the abductor.

I wonder how much they will focus on Jubal’s son having leukemia now? I don’t want them to focus on it too much but I hope they don’t forget it, like I say, I like when they give Jubal a meatier role.

I did think the scene of the dude getting hit by the car while running from the FBI was unnecessary, it seems like the show frequently throws in a foot chase that isn’t necessary  for extra drama.

Overall a decent episode and a good feature for Jubal. 

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I'm evil, so I was thinking momentarily that Jubal was the brains behind the abduction to work on his own son.  No one would suspect him.

At least the FBI proved that they don't have to warn the suspect when they're 50' away.  I had a good laugh when Lorenzo ran right through them like a fullback.  He didn't realize that a delivery truck is a lot harder to lose.

1 hour ago, mxc90 said:

What was the point of having the agent in disguise on the bike if "FBI" clearly seen on his chest?

Octavio was dumb enough to shoot and lucky none of the return fire hit his son.

Not to mention putting everyone out there in plain sight, knowing that he was a special ops guy down in Mexico, and, dumbest of all, set up two bright blue shelters and an ambulance in plain sight.

If I'm Dr. Caldwell, I'm suing the FBI for enough money to fully equip my own concierge practice in a decent office.  That was just plain idiotic to open fire with automatic weapons (without clearance, by the way).  Yeah, Tony and the two doctors could have been dead easy.

I look at that office and wonder how they manage to keep that many analysts busy all the time.  Sure, Jubal's got a few of them running background checks (of dubious legality, but, hey), but there's gotta be 25 other people in that office.  Sometimes it's fun to watch the background characters do whatever they do, instead of the leads.

2 hours ago, mxc90 said:

Can't blame the cab driver. He was already passed them when the Adam hailed him. Was calling him a shmuck neccessary?

One of the writers got stiffed by a cab and decided to work it into the story, no doubt.

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Well, if you think Jubal really had a hard time managing his emotions and behavior with this case criss-crossing with his personal life, wait until the next episode focused on him, in which someone goes on a murder spree and it all goes back to their life being ruined years ago when some drunk driver killed someone extremely important to them (possibly a child) and kept on going as though nothing had happened.  As they dig into the details at the JOC, lo and behold, that hit-and-run happened on the same day and in the same area Jubal vaguely remembers being wasted behind the wheel.

But oh well!  (Which is the vibe of how they left it when Jubal told Kathleen Munroe earlier.)  Anyway, it would just end up being some other drunk driver on the same day and in the same area, so Jubal is off the hook!

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4 hours ago, Dowel Jones said:

I look at that office and wonder how they manage to keep that many analysts busy all the time.  Sure, Jubal's got a few of them running background checks (of dubious legality, but, hey), but there's gotta be 25 other people in that office.  Sometimes it's fun to watch the background characters do whatever they do, instead of the leads.

I believe they share the office with Homeland Security. 

Some of those analyst are busy trying to make sense of the other field office's work/cases (i.e. WTF are the agents doing on "the Blacklist", making sure there aren't any tattoos left on Jane that went unanswered or having to answer phone calls about "little green men" from nervous people who recently viewed Fox Mulder's Youtube video).

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So, you want surgery for your kid, but you can't afford it, and even if you could, he's not eligible for a jump to the top of the list. So, kidnapping, murder, terrorism seems like a good idea for me.

Me, on the other hand, I can't afford that Mercedes, so excuse me while I go and get my AR-15 (with a 30-round magazine! Extremely dangerous! Can be fired on fully semi-automatic!) and demand I be given one!

Jubal is the least valuable, least useful person in the entire FBI. He (The Shouter, Mr. Exposition) only ever stands around at headquarters, telling everyone (in a loud voice) what they all already know. And telling people what to do, to which the response is always "Already on it!" Meaning they know their job and don't need any guidance from him.

Now, suddenly, his kid has leukemia (the curable kind, naturally) and he is pretending -- most believably <snicker> -- to be to be a surgeon (who never once goes near the patient to check on his condition), and getting in the way of the snipers, instead of letting them do their job. Which is to save the hostages who are bleeding out. And, incidentally, the kid who is open on the table in a cobweb-filled factory (no homebrew clean-room for you, little fellow!).

The other buncha dummies standing around ready to make an arrest. "Let's box them in tight before the badges come out!" Sure, but wearing apparel with FBI blazoned across your chest won't be a giveaway. Nooo.

Yeah. Great episode.

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10 hours ago, Dowel Jones said:

so I was thinking momentarily that Jubal was the brains behind the abduction to work on his own son.

Is there a surgery to cure leukemia?

Felt sorry for the kid, of course, but Octavio met an appropriate fate, imo.

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I don't like that Jubal missed his son's doctor's appointment.  Of course his son needed his support.  He was conflicted for like 10 seconds as he looked at his watch.  I know 'work always comes first' for these guys, but there were enough other agents on the task force.

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I like Jubal but I don't like the writers injecting all these "personal" side stories.  This episode had Jubal's son with leukemia and  Most Wanted had what's her face's wife not getting pregnant.  Those are not the reasons I watch these shows. 

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Here is the synopsis for S03.E13, "Short Squeeze", airing May 11, 2021:

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When the CEO of a major brokerage firm is shot and killed while surrounded by protesters, the team looks into who had the most to lose from his company’s perceived manipulations. Also, Scola’s previous Wall Street career and the reasons he left come to light as the financial details of the case begin to unfold.

 

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I think this is the first show I have seen  where they end the show by  actually allowing a surgeon to implant a stolen or purchased kidney.  All the rest of these storylines waste the kidney on moral principles. 

Jubal needed to take a day off work.  That’s what they make sick, personal, vacation and FMLA days for. Isobel specifically asked him if he was good to work and he said yes.  Ridiculous. Not sure why Jubel needed to be at the scene.  They aren’t a small town with a 10 person field office.   What’s next  - should we call in the the head of the entire FBI to show up at every hostage scene in the country? 

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Scola tried to act calm and cool but he was soaking in that introduction Jubal gave the agents of his stock trading background. Probably wished Jubal did it imitating Michael Buffer's style/voice.

So Scola made a lot of money and still decided to go work for the FBI???!!! Tiffany will make sure he buys all the time now.

Kix Bio must be a great place to work for when the lady won't make an attempt to save her boss' life. If she saves him, he'll fire her!!!!

The girl that talked to Scola and Tiffany is surely fired. She could have been a little more discrete and chatted with them somewhere  far outside. Nope! Let's talk in the office so everyone can see us.

I had to laugh at the 2 guards with their guns out looking confused standing by Tim's body.

Thanks Winters for the lesson learned to never put your picture in your avatar to be easily tracked by the FBI and write a message to watch Tim Davis die that day. Yeah right! You meant his "career" to die.

Plank leaves his apartment angry the night before, his computer has been on all that time placed on the table/chat open/picture of the next target to be read/seen the next day by the FBI, guns are missing and the wife is clueless to what's going on when the FBI arrived. Oh! Now she remembers he lost some money when questioned. Didn't think to call the police earlier?!

Scola is on the gurney, all the police around him and they didn't find out for while that Gold was kidnapped?! Did the witness decide to go home, watch a little TV and then come back out to talk to the police.

Homeless guy goes dumpster diving, finds a Range Rover and Maggie and OA arrives to ruin his day.

Scola and Tiffany got most of the screen time/investigation but it's OA and Maggie that get to make the arrest at the end. Must be in the contract.

Gold must be tired of an agent approach him saying "I'm not here as an FBI agent....."

Kix Bio better not fail Jubal or Jubal will finish what Nick Wilks couldn't!!!!!

 

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This was a really strong episode IMO, it was time for a good Scola centric episode as he hadn’t had one this season. I liked getting some insight into Scola without it going overboard on the personal info, and I think I enjoy Scola/Tiffany more than Maggie/OA.

It was interesting as there were basically 2 cases - I enjoyed both the murder case and kidnapping case and thought there was good investigation and teamwork to solve both.

I also liked how they tied in Jubal’s situation with his son without it going overboard or being soapy, they didn’t overly focus on it but they didn’t ignore it either, Jubal’s role was good.

I like the Scola/Tiffany partnership and I like that we got a good amount of scenes of them, they are both interesting characters.

Isobel came across as ice cold when she threatened to fire Scola, she can be an ice queen at times. I did like her stepping in at the end to help resolve the hostage situation.

I did think the wife of the killer should’ve called the police when her husband went missing and took his guns with him after losing money. She could’ve possibly prevented the murder.

Overall this was one of the season’s stronger episodes, good cases and investigation plus good roles for each character and I liked getting more focus on Scola.

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17 hours ago, Xeliou66 said:

Isobel came across as ice cold when she threatened to fire Scola, she can be an ice queen at times. I did like her stepping in at the end to help resolve the hostage situation.

How was she ice cold?! I thought she was smart and professional. If Gold had been recording Scola's stupid threat he could have easily made huge problems for both Scola and the FBI. What was she supposed to do? Pat him on the head and give him a sweet?

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Synopsis for S03.E14: Trigger Effect, airing May 18, 2021:

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While investigating a mass casualty incident at a New York City restaurant, the team scrambles to determine if it was racially motivated and if there was more than one gunman. Also, Maggie starts to notice troubling behavior from her co-worker, Elise.

 

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1 hour ago, Grrarrggh said:

How was she ice cold?! I thought she was smart and professional. If Gold had been recording Scola's stupid threat he could have easily made huge problems for both Scola and the FBI. What was she supposed to do? Pat him on the head and give him a sweet?

I understood why Isobel reprimanded Scola, but she just came across as an uncaring ice queen. She comes across that way a bit too often IMO.

I did like that Isobel checked in with Jubal about his son and seemed concerned for him.

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11 minutes ago, Xeliou66 said:

I understood why Isobel reprimanded Scola, but she just came across as an uncaring ice queen. She comes across that way a bit too often IMO.

I did like that Isobel checked in with Jubal about his son and seemed concerned for him.

Could she come across like this to you, and possibly others, because she's a woman? I have, like every other human being, had to deal with unconscious bias that has led me to take a deeper look at how women are perceived vs how men are. 

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Hey, all. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. Let's move on. Thanks.

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I liked the emphasis on Scola plus Tiffany was much more likeable this episode. 

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On 5/11/2021 at 10:53 PM, mxc90 said:

Plank leaves his apartment angry the night before, his computer has been on all that time placed on the table/chat open/picture of the next target to be read/seen the next day by the FBI..

This show takes a lot of shortcuts to get where it wants to go - - but an online stock trader type person leaving a computer out in the open ... and the computer never going to sleep and requiring a new log in ...  ??  That's just lazy writing.

On 5/11/2021 at 10:53 PM, mxc90 said:

So Scola made a lot of money and still decided to go work for the FBI???!!!

Another head-scratcher.  If Scola wants to "do good" and has a serious amount of $$, it would seem more likely that he would use it to put himself into a more influential position that just an FBI field agent.  It would be like a rich person who wants to help animals and decides to get a job as a veterinarian's assistant at the local clinic -- but nothing more.  Scola should maybe watch 'The Equalizer' (also on CBS  :-)

I am not sure what Jubal was expecting to hear when he went to talk to the kidnap victim/Kix founder.  It seemed very naïve of him.  If he were to ask a faith healer, in private, if people were really being cured,  would Jubal expect a confession that the entire practice was a sham? 

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On 5/13/2021 at 11:45 AM, shrewd.buddha said:
On 5/11/2021 at 10:53 PM, mxc90 said:

So Scola made a lot of money and still decided to go work for the FBI???!!!

Another head-scratcher.  If Scola wants to "do good" and has a serious amount of $$, it would seem more likely that he would use it to put himself into a more influential position that just an FBI field agent.  It would be like a rich person who wants to help animals and decides to get a job as a veterinarian's assistant at the local clinic -- but nothing more.  Scola should maybe watch 'The Equalizer' (also on CBS  :-)

I used to silently resent coworkers who claimed they were only working so they wouldn't sit home and watch soap operas, because I felt like I was competing with them for jobs they didn't need  --oddly, over time we often became friends.
But that doesn't sound like a TV show characterization to explore, does it? 
Maybe Scola is going to fund Leukemia research for Jubal's kid --lots of potential drama there.

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I thought this was a good episode and was glad to see Scola and Tiffany get the bulk of screentime.  I enjoy them much more than I do OA and Maggie.  

 

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It almost looked like there was an untold story back at Kix Bio.  Maybe that Financial Officer saw an opportunity to move up the ladder if her boss got killed.

Maggie and OA get an entire SWAT team to enter the sniper's house, but after the FBI figures out that he's out to get someone else, specifically the other blogger, Scola and Tiffany are left on their own.  Not even police department backup.

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Lately, Maggie has shown her special ability to detect trouble in people immediately. First her sister and now Elise. 

I'm sure Elise isn't the only person in the JOC that is stressed and is hiding it. Her only mistake was getting an address wrong??!!! Now Elise has learned the hard way to never tell Maggie anything.

Could the local news wait until the episode ended before all the facts were gathered about the restaurant shooting??!!! Mrs. Travers was already under the assumption Olson's death was racially motivated!

What is Jubal going to do? Demote her to the desk that assigns cars to the agents?!!

I understand Grimes didn't stay to talk to the authorities because he didn't have a gun permit in NYC but why didn't he just tell the restaurant worker that he saw the shooter and was going to engage (he probably wouldn't believe him but at least someone would have known). Also, stop wearing camouflage. You're in NYC, dress to impress.

Maria (the boss) has been kidnapped and the Fraudster employees are going business as usual. Exposing people is a priority! 

The 2 FBI shows are showing the damages from the internet (message boards or fake picture) but they have been letting the posters/companys off the hook in their story telling.

So Maria just had Neil's name and address handy to tell Bob and the photos were easily found out to be fake through a quick look from the FBI??!! Bob's lawyers couldn't get this info from her and analyze the pictures for his case?

"Our users can post anything they want and we're not responsible". Good job Fraudster! The death of those people means nothing to them! 

The shooting at Neil's apartment was weird. Scola and Tiffany are in the hallway and there's two shots but when they walk into the apartment, Neil is on the ground, shot to the leg and Avery no where in sight (as if he knew the FBI were going to walk in seconds before). Then we see Avery down the hall in the bathroom shooting at Scola and Tiffany (maybe firing a gun caused him to pee). Seems the agents should have walked in and immediately engaged Avery.

Also, if Neil is the person who sent the fake pictures/the source of Bob's anger from the start, how is Neil still breathing? Just a shot to the leg is his punishment? Maria and Olson got worse!

Why is Elise not reporting to Jubal about Avery heading to the school even if it contradicts NYPD's intel and she had proof with footage? Is she afraid of Jubal? 

Could Josh think of the hostage first and pretend to talk to his father in order to save her. Selfish! Maybe could have gotten a date down the line!

Maggie could have gotten the girl killed by the way she rushed at Bob.

They are already going for drinks. They don't need to write a report? 

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1 hour ago, mxc90 said:

Maggie could have gotten the girl killed by the way she rushed at Bob.

She didn't rush at Bob until the girl was completely out of the area.

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5 minutes ago, Grrarrggh said:

She didn't rush at Bob until the girl was completely out of the area.

Not that part.

Earlier. She moved in and then Bob put the gun to the girl. He was proven to be unstable and Maggie could have provoked him to shoot.

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34 minutes ago, mxc90 said:

Not that part.

Earlier. She moved in and then Bob put the gun to the girl. He was proven to be unstable and Maggie could have provoked him to shoot.

He had the gun to the girls head the entire time, from when he grabbed her til he let her go. Maggie didn't rush him, she walked towards him to talk without shouting from a football field away.

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This was another good episode - there was a lot of good investigation in this episode from everyone which I enjoyed a lot.

 I liked that the hate crime/political aspect turned out to be a red herring, and the real motive was different. This was a really good plot with some surprising twists. 

I didn’t feel any sympathy for the killer, none of the people he killed had done anything wrong, I understand his anger but once he killed innocent people he lost whatever sympathy I had for him. I hope that asshole that set him up because he was jealous of his success does prison time, he set the whole thing in motion, I was glad Scola talked about what a piece of shit he was at the end.

Regarding Elise, Maggie should’ve gone to Jubal immediately IMO, if Elise hadn’t screwed up, they might’ve been able to save Maria and catch the killer. She should’ve been taken off the case immediately after that. I was glad that Maggie confronted her at the end and told her to talk to Jubal.

Isobel was barely in the episode.

Overall this was a strong outing for the show, I found the plot to be one of the season’s best, very intricate and well done, and while I wasn’t sure I liked how the situation with Elise was handled until the end, I did like a background character getting some focus. Let’s hope the show ends the season on a strong note next week!!

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4 hours ago, mxc90 said:

Also, stop wearing camouflage. You're in NYC, dress to impress.

Maybe his job interview was with the NRA.

I feel for that tactical unit.  They must sit all day long, wearing that heavy assault gear, only to be called out repeatedly for situations all over New York, and end up doing nothing.  OA and Maggie, or Tiffany and Scola always go in before they do.

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Here is the synopsis for next week's episode (maybe the finale? Not stated, but likely...), S03.E15: Straight Flush, airing on May 25, 2021:

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When five prominent men are killed at a trendy New York City restaurant, the team’s investigation brings them into contact with a lieutenant in Antonio Vargas’ cartel, triggering a long-awaited showdown between Isobel and Vargas.

 

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4 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

When five prominent men are killed at a trendy New York City restaurant, the team’s investigation brings them into contact with a lieutenant in Antonio Vargas’ cartel, triggering a long-awaited showdown between Isobel and Vargas.

 

Given that Vargas is going to be the headliner next week, I wonder if the Elise subplot this week was a way to remind viewers of what Vargas did to her?

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12 hours ago, mxc90 said:

Could the local news wait until the episode ended before all the facts were gathered about the restaurant shooting??!!! Mrs. Travers was already under the assumption Olson's death was racially motivated!

Actually, this is exactly how the media reacts to events (particularly violence) these days-look for a potential controversy, and report that immediately, even though so often the initial info was wrong. I appreciated this realistic take on modern 'journalism'.

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On 5/5/2021 at 1:22 AM, Dowel Jones said:

I look at that office and wonder how they manage to keep that many analysts busy all the time.  Sure, Jubal's got a few of them running background checks (of dubious legality, but, hey), but there's gotta be 25 other people in that office.  Sometimes it's fun to watch the background characters do whatever they do, instead of the leads.

On 5/5/2021 at 7:21 AM, mxc90 said:

I believe they share the office with Homeland Security. 

Some of those analyst are busy trying to make sense of the other field office's work/cases (i.e. WTF are the agents doing on "the Blacklist", making sure there aren't any tattoos left on Jane that went unanswered or having to answer phone calls about "little green men" from nervous people who recently viewed Fox Mulder's Youtube video).

 

I would love weird asides like that about the other analysts. Something like "Hey, can you work on your lifestyle blog when this crisis has passed."

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1 hour ago, illdoc said:

It's officially "Dick Wolf Tuesday"---FBI is moving to the lead-off spot, followed by the new FBI: International, ending with FBI: Most Wanted.  https://tvline.com/2021/05/19/dick-wolf-cbs-fbi-nbc-one-chicago-nbc-law-order/

Yeah I saw. Can’t say I like it, but NCIS just might beat the other Monday night shows. With the exception of MNF lol. 
 

This is basically an experiment for the FBI tv series. If they succeed, the CBS will win 4 of the 7 prime time evenings via ratings/viewers (Sun, Mon, Tues, Fri).

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16 hours ago, mxc90 said:

Lately, Maggie has shown her special ability to detect trouble in people immediately. First her sister and now Elise. 

I'm sure Elise isn't the only person in the JOC that is stressed and is hiding it. Her only mistake was getting an address wrong??!!! Now Elise has learned the hard way to never tell Maggie anything.

Could the local news wait until the episode ended before all the facts were gathered about the restaurant shooting??!!! Mrs. Travers was already under the assumption Olson's death was racially motivated!

What is Jubal going to do? Demote her to the desk that assigns cars to the agents?!!

I understand Grimes didn't stay to talk to the authorities because he didn't have a gun permit in NYC but why didn't he just tell the restaurant worker that he saw the shooter and was going to engage (he probably wouldn't believe him but at least someone would have known). Also, stop wearing camouflage. You're in NYC, dress to impress.

Maria (the boss) has been kidnapped and the Fraudster employees are going business as usual. Exposing people is a priority! 

The 2 FBI shows are showing the damages from the internet (message boards or fake picture) but they have been letting the posters/companys off the hook in their story telling.

So Maria just had Neil's name and address handy to tell Bob and the photos were easily found out to be fake through a quick look from the FBI??!! Bob's lawyers couldn't get this info from her and analyze the pictures for his case?

"Our users can post anything they want and we're not responsible". Good job Fraudster! The death of those people means nothing to them! 

The shooting at Neil's apartment was weird. Scola and Tiffany are in the hallway and there's two shots but when they walk into the apartment, Neil is on the ground, shot to the leg and Avery no where in sight (as if he knew the FBI were going to walk in seconds before). Then we see Avery down the hall in the bathroom shooting at Scola and Tiffany (maybe firing a gun caused him to pee). Seems the agents should have walked in and immediately engaged Avery.

Also, if Neil is the person who sent the fake pictures/the source of Bob's anger from the start, how is Neil still breathing? Just a shot to the leg is his punishment? Maria and Olson got worse!

Why is Elise not reporting to Jubal about Avery heading to the school even if it contradicts NYPD's intel and she had proof with footage? Is she afraid of Jubal? 

Could Josh think of the hostage first and pretend to talk to his father in order to save her. Selfish! Maybe could have gotten a date down the line!

Maggie could have gotten the girl killed by the way she rushed at Bob.

They are already going for drinks. They don't need to write a report? 

As they say on those loud commercials: "But wait! There's more!" 
Seriously *eye roll*
Just regarding the camouflage-wearing shooter --and, yes, camouflage in the city??? :

  • [Camouflage Guy in FBI custody] I'm not the bad guy here.
     
  • [OA] Okay, seven people were shot. Four are dead, so I'm curious. What would it take for you to consider yourself a bad guy?
     
  • [Camouflage Guy] I didn't hurt any of those people. I was trying to help them, to save them.
     
  • [OA] So you're a good guy with a gun, just trying to be a hero?
     
  • [Camouflage Guy] I saw a guy killing people, and so I drew down on him. I took a shot. I tried to help.
     
  • [OA] Then why'd you run?
     
  • [Camouflage Guy] I don't have a permit to carry in New York, and I can't catch a felony right now. . . I saw a shady guy pull a gun, and yeah, of course I drew my weapon. What am I supposed to do? Just sit there and not help?
     
  • [OA] So let me get this straight. You fired your weapon inside of a crowded restaurant to help people?
     
  • [Camouflage Guy in FBI custody] Yeah, and I had a clean shot, too, until that idiot grabbed my arm and threw off my aim. Then the real shooter saw me and fired back. And I got out of there fast.

Did they just let Camouflage Guy go???
According to every show of L&O I've ever seen: "If someone gets killed during the commission of a felony, that's Felony Murder." And, in this case, the guy who went to the restaurant only to kill his ex-boss, wound up shooting the other 7 people (killing 3 of them in addition to his target) while he was trying to take out Camouflage Guy (who was himself committing a felony by having a concealed weapon in NYC), but, being a lawyer rather than a camo guy, the guy who was intent on killing people because they fired him for faked reasons was a terrible shot in a crowded restaurant and wound up killing 3 more people because he was aiming at Camo Guy brandishing a gun.
Is that right? 

 

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15 hours ago, mxc90 said:

I'm sure Elise isn't the only person in the JOC that is stressed and is hiding it. Her only mistake was getting an address wrong??!!!

Initially I thought it was something more sinister--like Elise was trying to steer the FBI away from a family member of hers or something like that.
Nevertheless, getting the address wrong because you're stressed and while working in an FBI center that seems to have emergencies every week is a bigger deal than getting the email address wrong on, say, an interlibrary loan request.🔅
Specifically, in this case, because Maggie and OA went to the wrong address:

  • Someone got kidnapped
  • Someone else got shot
  • The perp got away

Although the kidnapped person was freed and the perp was eventually caught, I was left thinking that the bystander with a bullet in his leg would not be too happy if he knew the FBI would have likely been there in time to prevent his getting shot if they had been given the correct address.

In episode 5.1 "Products of Discovery" of The Closer, both the perp and the cops got an address wrong (the FBI got it right). In that case, the hit-person mistakenly killed a mother, a grandmother, and 2 kids because of an address mix-up similar to the one in this episode of FBI. Interestingly, the cops going to the wrong address is what caused Brenda of The Closer to consider that the perp might have been at the wrong address too, which led to the discovery of the correct address, and ultimately to the bad guys.

 

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🔅 Before I retired as an academic librarian, I frequently had reason to say I was so glad I wasn't a brain surgeon. Maybe I should have said FBI dispatcher. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, shapeshifter said:

Nevertheless, getting the address wrong because you're stressed and while working in an FBI center that seems to have emergencies every week is a bigger deal than getting the email address wrong on, say, an interlibrary loan request.🔅
Specifically, in this case, because Maggie and OA went to the wrong address:

  • Someone got kidnapped
  • Someone else got shot
  • The perp got away

Although the kidnapped person was freed and the perp was eventually caught, I was left thinking that the bystander with a bullet in his leg would not be too happy if he knew the FBI would have likely been there in time to prevent his getting shot if they had been given the correct address.

Agree with this 1000%.  I was saying to Maggie on the TV -- "you have got to tell TPTB about this now".  I couldn't believe her initial response with OA was to basically "let's let it go" and protect Elise from repercussions -- what happened to the folks mentioned above was VERY serious and life-threatening.  There was quite an effect to Elise getting the address wrong.  

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4 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

Initially I thought it was something more sinister--like Elise was trying to steer the FBI away from a family member of hers or something like that.
Nevertheless, getting the address wrong because you're stressed and while working in an FBI center that seems to have emergencies every week is a bigger deal than getting the email address wrong on, say, an interlibrary loan request.🔅
Specifically, in this case, because Maggie and OA went to the wrong address:

  • Someone got kidnapped
  • Someone else got shot
  • The perp got away

Although the kidnapped person was freed and the perp was eventually caught, I was left thinking that the bystander with a bullet in his leg would not be too happy if he knew the FBI would have likely been there in time to prevent his getting shot if they had been given the correct address.

In episode 5.1 "Products of Discovery" of The Closer, both the perp and the cops got an address wrong (the FBI got it right). In that case, the hit-person mistakenly killed a mother, a grandmother, and 2 kids because of an address mix-up similar to the one in this episode of FBI. Interestingly, the cops going to the wrong address is what caused Brenda of The Closer to consider that the perp might have been at the wrong address too, which led to the discovery of the correct address, and ultimately to the bad guys.

 

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🔅 Before I retired as an academic librarian, I frequently had reason to say I was so glad I wasn't a brain surgeon. Maybe I should have said FBI dispatcher. 

 

 

Except in this episode the kidnapped person was not freed, she was killed by her abductor, so Elise getting the address wrong possibly cost that woman her life. So I thought Maggie should’ve immediately reported Elise’s mistake to Jubal and had her taken off the case, because she wasn’t mentally fit to be working on it. That’s why I was unhappy with how Maggie initially did nothing about it even when they found the woman dead. I was glad Maggie forced her to talk to Jubal at the end but she should’ve been taken off the case and suspended. 

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