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I see the show is back tonight. That one week special showing of...whatever that other show is (forgot the title) is weird, but whatever.

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OA, a tip. In case you ever want to help your friend buy meds for his sick mom? Accompany him to the pharmacy. Jeesch. Pretty dumb for an fbi agent.

And Jubel? You are only about 2 IQ  points higher. 

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So, all-knowing OA gets bilked by his friend the addict for $2k. That scenario puts him in the FBI ("Friend But Incompetent") category. Anyone who didn't see that coming is a moron.

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I would have thought OA would have at least checked it out about Juan's mom or as Preeya said, gone to the pharmacy with him. 

I thought Jubal should have been removed from the case but I did like the bantering between him and OA. 

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I think this was addressed somewhere but what is the hierarchy in the office: I’ve always assumed the Sela Ward character was in charge, but sometimes Jubal acts like he is. Then last night they were all arguing as if no one was in charge and Sela Ward had to be made to make a decision. Doesn’t seem like the way the FBI should be run. Hotch would never put up with that. Hell, he got mad if Prentiss and AJ were talking before the meetings started. 

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4 hours ago, SamBeckett said:

I think this was addressed somewhere but what is the hierarchy in the office: I’ve always assumed the Sela Ward character was in charge, but sometimes Jubal acts like he is. Then last night they were all arguing as if no one was in charge and Sela Ward had to be made to make a decision. Doesn’t seem like the way the FBI should be run. Hotch would never put up with that. Hell, he got mad if Prentiss and AJ were talking before the meetings started. 

 

Yes, Sela Ward is top dog and Jubal is her assistant.

According to Wiki:

Jeremy Sisto as Jubal Valentine, FBI assistant special agent-in-charge

Sela Ward as Dana Mosier, FBI special agent-in-charge and the team's supervisor

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The bad guy's plan left a lot to be desired. Did he think the diplomat was just going to stand there and wave bye-bye as his suitcase was stolen in front of his nose? Not to mention all the cameras and security at the airport. Each time the bad guy needs to smuggle drugs, isn't it going to be obvious that the diplomats from China keep getting mugged for their suitcases?

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Why didn't the chinese drug operation have the translator deliver the drugs in her suitcase instead of passing to the diplomat? 

It's always a meet at a club where trouble begins!

Morris took his time bringing up Trevor's name as the other cab driver. 

So the FBI could ignore Morris' illegal gun if he cooperates or they can throw him in jail if he doesn't. Morris should have a tough time trusting Jubal again.

For a "major" drug operation only Tayo and one guard outside were there? 

Tayo gave Morris two bags but Jubal flushed one down the sink. I coudn't tell by the dialogue: did Morris use the other? Jubal knew he gave him drugs, why didn't he or another agent check him for the drugs at the scene before letting him go home?

Maggie calls for all units to move in but we see one SUV pull up to the back. Where were the rest of the "units"?

When Jubal, Maggie and OA left the van, the sidedoor was open. I hope when they returned, it was stolen or stripped.

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So...another season, yet another show runner from the Dick Wolf stable. Michael Chernuchin, who has worked most recently on L&O: SVU as well as original-recipe L&O and L&O: Criminal Intent (he got around!) will be coming on to FBI as Warren Leight, whom he replaced at SVU, will return there to head S21.

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5 hours ago, Waterston Fan said:

When is there a new episode? 

Tomorrow at 9:00 p.m. ET.

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Officer West is moonlighting?* That took me out of the episode for a bit.

*from The Rookie

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9 minutes ago, rhys said:

Officer West is moonlighting?* That took me out of the episode for a bit.

*from The Rookie

I thought that was the same guy! (I stopped watching The Rookie after a few episodes.) I liked this one. Thought it was a good idea to split up Maggie and OA. I liked her substitute partner but I was sure he was going to be shot any minute. 

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1 hour ago, rhys said:

Officer West is moonlighting?* That took me out of the episode for a bit.

*from The Rookie

Probably weighing his options if The Rookie doesn't get renewed.

He actually was better as an agent than a rookie cop.

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I was a bit confused about that guy too.  I wouldn't think that they would just pull some guy out of white collar crime and stick him out in the field at a moment's notice.  I thought he had a red shirt on, too.

As badly as other shows portray the FBI (I'm looking at you, Blacklist and Enemy Within), this show goes the other way, with the agency violating every principle of the 4th Amendment and, in OA's case, basic human rights.  While I'm not rooting for the putative bad guys to win, it's more than a little disturbing that the show's producers are putting this out there as acceptable.

Please stop shouting at the staff, Jubal.  They aren't going to work any faster at data research just by you shouting "C'mon, people, let's move."  At least some of the serfs get a line or two during the episode.

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I liked Maggie with the inexperienced agent (ha!  "Officer West")  I also liked Maggie's last scene with the recipient of her husband's heart.  That scene was really well done, and well acted.  They did a really good awkward blind date vibe segueing to something else bait and switch too.

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I thought it was hilarious when they got camera footage of the suspect and then ran facial recognition to compare him to 9 pictures on their watch list. As if you would need a computer to tell you, “Which one of these 9 people does he look like?” Extra points because some of the photos had very different complexions and would have taken all of two seconds for a human to eliminate. 

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I thought this episode was really slow and I admit, I did fast forwarded some scenes. 

I did think that was West and I liked him as her partner. 

So after all that the patient dies because the heart wasn't compatible. 

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For all the hype Jubal gave to Zev for his assasination skills, he didn'tlive up to the claim this episode (off his game). Bad Plan A with sniper attack. Was planting the bomb Plan B or C? Just leave the bomb and don't bother go upstairs! How long did he set the timer? 3 hours? And he failed leaving town!

I guess he'll be glad to know the doctors did the job for him. 

At least the save went to the "cross your fingers" bomb tech instead of Maggie or OA.

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On 5/4/2019 at 1:02 PM, mxc90 said:

At least the save went to the "cross your fingers" bomb tech instead of Maggie or OA.

A bomb tech surrounded by FBI agents for no reason.  Raise your hands if you think you’d just stand there and watch while she disarmed the bomb and then while she just watched the timer count down?  Anyone?  One of the stupidest scenes I’ve ever seen in a TV show. 

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It was taken directly out of an episode of Quantico, if I remember correctly.

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Wasn't there only like a minute on the timer? Where are they going to go?

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3 hours ago, Samwise979 said:

Wasn't there only like a minute on the timer? Where are they going to go?

Presumably as far away as possible down the corridor they just came in thru.  I’d be willing to bet every foot away you can get would help 

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Who was the killer of the FBI brother?  Our service cut out the last 7-10 min.

I figure it was the widow because she kept popping up and she knew things she shouldn’t have.  Also she had a line early in which she said she was sorry, but made it vague, like she was sorry for her grief.

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46 minutes ago, roamyn said:

Who was the killer of the FBI brother?  Our service cut out the last 7-10 min.

I figure it was the widow because she kept popping up and she knew things she shouldn’t have.  Also she had a line early in which she said she was sorry, but made it vague, like she was sorry for her grief.

Yep, I thought it was going to be the wife, too. Nice misdirection, show! Plus red silk thread sounds like it would be from a blouse not a satchel/briefcase.

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I'm two minutes in, the victim says "oh it's you, you scared the hell. . . .Bang, Bang, Bang.

Then the wife shows up all hysterical.

My money is on the wife as the shooter.

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35 minutes ago, preeya said:

I'm two minutes in, the victim says "oh it's you, you scared the hell. . . .Bang, Bang, Bang.

Then the wife shows up all hysterical.

My money is on the wife as the shooter.

OK, I was wrong about the wife being guilty as the shooter, BUT she sure was guilty of being a bad actress.

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Presumably as far away as possible down the corridor they just came in thru.  I’d be willing to bet every foot away you can get would help

The explosives were designed to collapse the whole building. Running further down the corridor really doesn't help them to escape.

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6 hours ago, preeya said:

OK, I was wrong about the wife being guilty as the shooter, BUT she sure was guilty of being a bad actress.

But then who was it?  Was it the attorney?  And then he was killed by a member of the gang?

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That's correct.  The attorney killed both the FBI agent and the biker that he was dealing with, and then the "club president" killed the attorney in revenge, because he had to stand up for the gang. I've already forgotten why the agent was mixed up with the attorney, as my attention span is pretty short with this show.

Anyone remember the Russian thug that threatened Sela Ward's character way earlier in the season?  I guess that plotline got filed away.

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5 hours ago, Dowel Jones said:

Anyone remember the Russian thug that threatened Sela Ward's character way earlier in the season?  I guess that plotline got filed away

Yes, it happened in the two-part episode 8 & 9 “This Land is Your Land” & “Compromised”

I have no recollection of the Russian thug or the threat. However, if they are going to re-visit that plot it should happen in next week's finale, although it looks as if Maggie's deceased husband's "escapades" will now be front and center.

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I admit, I thought it was the wife and I kept thinking a lawyer is going to have everything thrown out because the wife was too close. 

Does Maggie really need to know about the woman who Jason may have had an affair with? 

Was there a previews for next week's episode? Recording got cut off. 

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On 5/8/2019 at 8:37 AM, preeya said:

I have no recollection of the Russian thug or the threat.

I vaguely remember him meeting her on the street and issuing a warning/threat which, at the time, seemed pretty ominous.  The problem with letting a plotline like that go for so long is that viewers obviously forget about it and, when he makes a reappearance, everyone is mystified.

2 hours ago, Waterston Fan said:

I admit, I thought it was the wife and I kept thinking a lawyer is going to have everything thrown out because the wife was too close. 

I think a law school could integrate any number of episodes of any cop show as examples of how to defend a suspect.  It gets laughable sometimes.

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That was a real twist. I thought for sure the murderer would be the FBI agent wife. Instead it was the actual criminal in the story. That is extremely unusual for a Dick Wolf show.

Very surprising..

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I liked this past episode pretty good, a nice actual mystery to be solved, less action and no bombs!! It seems like half of the episodes have been centered around bombings!! 

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For a professional cartel hit man he sure was messy (breaking in, stealing a car, showing his face in daylight, leaving the body out with the garbage, hiding out in Brooklyn). By touching the dog the FBI found him and he got what he deserved at the end (being hit by a truck and knocked to the next block).

The FBI could find his DNA on the dog but not the woman?

At least Dana was honest: she can't control the rank and file. Give OA or Maggie an order and they alway talk her out of it! Time to leave!

Next season, I guess they would pass Jubal for the position to bring in someone opposite of Dana's personality.

Wasn't Kristen supposed to go to Quantico?

Ian Lim who are you right now?

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Another perp apprehension failure. Death by an oncoming truck.

Once again all geographical logic is defied.

Are Maggie and OA the only FBI agents in NYC?

Will Jubal inherit Dana's spot?

Very convoluted way to solve Maggie's husband's murder.

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Damn, guess no Sela next year. That stinks. We (well I) like seeing women in position. That being said, Dana needed to speak with Kristen & Maggie about their side job of looking into Jason & Angela's phone calls. That was not a good use of fbi resources. It turned into a case, but it was off book sneaking.

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50 minutes ago, rhys said:

Dana needed to speak with Kristen & Maggie...

And maybe Maggie and OA about warrantless (I don't think the 'exigent circumstances' would hold up) barging into an office simply on a guess, threatening citizens with arrest, and beating of a surrendering, unarmed suspect.  That was bad.

So, their vaunted technology of facial recognition turns up one, only one match from the photo taken at the beach.  And it fortuitously matches a drug lord.

OA is gonna get laid tonight.

Yeah, I thought Kristen was gone too.  Maybe TPTB thought her erstwhile replacement just didn't have the on screen chops to carry the role.  Who knows?

I look at all those techs in that room and I think of internet Solitaire, Call of Duty, reading Primetimer forums, etc.,  every time Jubal's back is turned.

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1 hour ago, rhys said:

Damn, guess no Sela next year. That stinks. We (well I) like seeing women in position. That being said, Dana needed to speak with Kristen & Maggie about their side job of looking into Jason & Angela's phone calls. That was not a good use of fbi resources. It turned into a case, but it was off book sneaking.

Well, there is still no write-up anywhere about Sela Ward exiting, so unless it comes in the next day or two, maybe there will be some lame twist in the fall and Dana will stick around.

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I will miss Dana next season, I liked her. I hope Jubal takes over her position. 

The episode was decent, I liked the storyline pretty good although there were a few flaws, mainly them barging into the office with apparently no warrant, and the geographical stuff. But I did find the plot compelling.

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I was surprised by the reasons for Dana's retirement but won't miss Dana.  I am hopeful they make a better casting decision in the future than the awful Connie Nielsen, for goodness sakes.  Sela Ward is just OK to me -- I never bought her in the role.  I've liked her fine in past roles but not this one.  I was irritated that Maggie cried when asking to stay on the case.  I probably would too IRL but in the hardass role that they've given Maggie, I thought she could express what she had to say without crying. 

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18 hours ago, mxc90 said:

By touching the dog

He didn't "touch the dog" (you make it sound like he pet the dog)...the dog was a security dog and scratched/bit him!

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I started watching this show for Sela Ward. It wasn't a big role but I will miss her presence. I hope she finds a bigger role in another show. 

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Jeez people will put anything on Facebook these days. "Just got back from my trip to Mexico and I had the bestest time ever!!! Here's a pic with me and the head of Mexico's biggest drug cartel. People keep telling me that he's a murdering bastard, but I found him to be quite nice and charming. I mean how evil could he be with that dorky Hawaiian shirt he has on???"

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I won’t miss Sela Ward in this role. She didn’t seem up to the bureaucratic fighting you need to be the SAC in NYC.

They should bring in a pencil pusher by the book type to have some confit with Jubal and the agents.

Question. They have an agent on body cam giving a beat down to an unarmed female suspect. Shouldn’t she get a suspension at the very least instead of standing ovation?

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The real question is, if they do promote Jubal to fill Dana's position, will he still be so DAMN SHOUTY all the time?

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