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aside from the fact that L & J are officially done

Wow, who could have seen that coming?

Also, according the tweets above, Gracie and Ali hate Miranda, who is awful to them (per Leah). No specific examples are given. The comments are pretty split between the leg humpers saying Miranda is an awful person, and some rational people pointing out that perhaps Miranda acts like an authority figure and not a friend, and therefore two 10 years have concluded that she's "mean".

I mean, Miranda could be a bitch to the girls, but Leah is a notoriously unreliable source, and two preteens with Leah for a mother aren't much more credible, I have to say.

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44 minutes ago, Tatum said:

Wow, who could have seen that coming?

Also, according the tweets above, Gracie and Ali hate Miranda, who is awful to them (per Leah). No specific examples are given. The comments are pretty split between the leg humpers saying Miranda is an awful person, and some rational people pointing out that perhaps Miranda acts like an authority figure and not a friend, and therefore two 10 years have concluded that she's "mean".

I mean, Miranda could be a bitch to the girls, but Leah is a notoriously unreliable source, and two preteens with Leah for a mother aren't much more credible, I have to say.

I don't believe much of anything Leah has to say about Miranda. She's been petty and jealous towards Miranda almost since Cory and Miranda started dating. Which is ironic, since Leah never really wanted Cory in the first place, but Leah can't be second best.  My guess is that Miranda doesn't let Ali and Grace run wild like Leah does, and so they 'hate' her. I couldn't see Miranda being an evil stepmom without Cory and Jeff, to start, having a problem with it. 

Frankly even if there is a kernel of truth to it, Leah is the one who looks bad for trying to drag this out on SM. Miranda hasn't even been on TM2 in a few years, and she doesn't have much of a social media presence. Leah should approach it like an adult and talk to Miranda in person. But then, Leah is a coward who is only strong when her followers/yokrl family back her up. 

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9 minutes ago, HeySandyStrange said:

I don't believe much of anything Leah has to say about Miranda. She's been pretty and jealous towards Miranda almost since Cory and Miranda started dating. Which is ironic, since Leah never really wanted Cory in the first place, but Leah can't be second best.  My guess is that Miranda doesn't let Ali and Grace run wild like Leah does, and so they 'hate' her. I couldn't see Miranda being an evil stepmom without Cory and Jeff, to start, having a problem with it. 

Frankly even if there is a kernel of truth to it, Leah is the one who looks bad for trying to drag this out on SM. Miranda hasn't even been on TM2 in a few years, and she doesn't have much of a social media presence. Leah should approach it like an adult and talk to Miranda in person. But then, Leah is a coward who is only strong when her followers/yokrl family back her up. 

Exactly. Who could forget Leah sobbing to her hillbilly clan about Evil Miranda forcing Ali to carry her own backpack (which was strongly discouraged by Ali's doctors), while conveniently ignoring the fact that Leah had Ali enrolled in softball, cheerleading, rarely used the wheelchair, and that she regularly took all the girls, including Ali, to water parks.

Of course, this is the same bitch that rants to her mother -while being filmed- that Corey should care more about his kids' feelings than he does about making Leah look bad. Her sense of irony is completely lacking, as is any modicum of self awareness.

I will say though, that this wasn't on social media. Leah said this at the reunion, which may or may not make the final cut of editing. Leah is a super coward for bringing this up on a medium where Miranda cannot defend herself. Not that Miranda would choose to, since I think Miranda and Corey have resigned themselves to just letting Leah lob her accusations without ever getting a rebuttal. It's not worth it to them, I would bet, to spend the energy trying to prove themselves to a bunch of uneducated, incapable of critical thinking superfans of Leah's.

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I agree with the above. The girls hating Miranda is relative. An adult who sets boundaries and enforces rules is going to seem like a huge, evil meanie when you're used to living with a mom who treats you like her BFF. 

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Yep....I bet that mean old Miranda even makes them have a set BEDTIME. And EAT VEGETABLES. And CLEAN UP AFTER THEMSELVES. Heck, she probably makes them MAKE THEIR BEDS every morning.  She may even make them say "please" and "thank you."  I bet she doesn't even let them sneak cats into her car and never makes Midnight Ravioli! 

The horror! Poor girlses with their mean 🙄 stepmother. 

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It really pisses me off that Miranda has made it very clear she doesn’t want any part of this show, yet here she is, being brought up in public once again by Leah.

Leah, like her bestie girlfriend whatever Kail, needs to learn to keep her exes names out of her mouth and needs to keep grown folks business private.  

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11 minutes ago, geauxaway said:

It really pisses me off that Miranda has made it very clear she doesn’t want any part of this show, yet here she is, being brought up in public once again by Leah.

Leah, like her bestie girlfriend whatever Kail, needs to learn to keep her exes names out of her mouth and needs to keep grown folks business private.  

I feel like Leah always has to have some kind of drama going with some baby daddy (and by extension Miranda).   She loves it.  It deflects off of her shortcomings, too.  She's either hooking up/playing "will-we-or-won't-we" with Jeremy; complaining Jeremy works too much to see Addie (& by extension, isn't down for hook-ups); complaining about some trumped up nonsense about Corey; or calling Miranda "mean."  It's like a crazy cycle that still hasn't ended 10 years into this show. 

Corey manages to lay low (and the girlses probably don't like Leah bad-mouthing their dad), so Miranda often ends up being the "big bad" when Jeremy has a break from either being the bad guy or current hook up.  That's exhausting, Leah.  Stand in your power by worrying about YOURSELF & not this cycle of baby-daddy-stepmom drama. (And Jeremy, enjoy the breather.  Your phase as good guy/hook-up has ended for this cycle. You know as soon as Leah's done with the "Miranda is mean" phase, it'll be your turn to be the "bad guy/absentee dad" again for a bit.)

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Well, we all know what a class act Jeremy is, so when he doesn't like someone, clearly the fault must lie with them.

I wonder who is more looking forward to the 18th birthday of their firstborn child/children- Jo or Corey?

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4 hours ago, monicageller said:

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Leah forgot her pants.

She also took pics in the same spot Chelsea took hers.  I didn't realize public restrooms were a good backdrop for full selfies. 

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On 10/21/2019 at 7:15 AM, Tatum said:

I will begrudgingly give her credit for posting an extremely unflattering picture of herself in the spirit of sharing a moment that was a good memory for her. I would have thought she was way too vain for that.

I haven’t looked at her Instagram in a long time but she used to post a lot of photos I found unflattering, especially making that stupid squished mouth face that makes her nose look huge. I’m not sure she even knows a flattering picture from an unflattering picture of herself.

On 10/22/2019 at 1:29 PM, Snarky McSnarky said:

Another gem found on Reddit...

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“Telivision.” How? Does her autocorrect not work? And the one thing she’s managed to do with her life is be on television and she can’t even spell it correctly. 🤦🏻‍♀️ And she makes more money than most. 🤦🏻‍♀️ 

On 10/22/2019 at 3:06 PM, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

Y'all....Leah hash-tagged that cringe-worthy post with #16heaven.  Wondering WTF that was, I did some google investigation.

That hashtag is related to something called Mastery in Transformational Training ("MITT') and best I can tell, it seems to be a kind of life-coaching MLMish thing/cult-like thing....

https://sundial.csun.edu/47515/opinions/dont-drink-the-kool-aid/

https://www.gq.com/story/one-month-in-los-angeles-cult-of-betterness  (the part about MITT is about halfway into the article)

She’s the type of woman who would’ve joined Nxivm.

On 10/27/2019 at 6:24 PM, Mkay said:

So Victoria brought her baby daddy from Costa Rica to the reunion.  😆😆😆

That guy knew exactly what he was doing when he hooked up with a “tv star.” Now he’s gotten a free trip to NYC, at the least, out of it so far.

On 10/29/2019 at 8:06 AM, monicageller said:

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That book title is a fucking joke. And she should’ve just given her kids those names, as cheesy as I’d find it to be, instead of making them middle names and giving the twins those horrible first names. Especially since she uses them all the time. At least the book isn’t called #AAA. I hope it’s some kind of legit memoir and not supposed to be about how she has “broken generational toxicity” or any sort of advice book, for obvious reasons.

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Can I just say, it's pretty freaking dumb for Leah to put out a book so late in the TM2 game. She needed to jump on the train six or seven years ago. Now she's going to be lucky if those books don't pile up and put her house back into a horders paradise of previous years. 

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1 hour ago, HeySandyStrange said:

Can I just say, it's pretty freaking dumb for Leah to put out a book so late in the TM2 game. She needed to jump on the train six or seven years ago. Now she's going to be lucky if those books don't pile up and put her house back into a horders paradise of previous years. 

Add them to the shitty Mary Kay makeup pile that’s crammed in the back of her car. 

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9 hours ago, HeySandyStrange said:

Can I just say, it's pretty freaking dumb for Leah to put out a book so late in the TM2 game. She needed to jump on the train six or seven years ago. Now she's going to be lucky if those books don't pile up and put her house back into a horders paradise of previous years. 

Yeah, I don't think any of the girls' books have sold that well. Maybe Farrah's or Amber's did a little better because people were hoping for some war stories on the porn industry or prison, respectively, but generally, no one is that interested in reading the random musings and heavily edited recollections of these girls when they post their thoughts already on social media all day and act like idiots on TV.

I am sure the book will have a ghost writer so I am guessing it will have correct grammar and punctuation and a somewhat logical flow, but it will probably mostly involve Leah styling herself a hillbilly millennial take on Norma Rae with some Hallmark platitudes thrown in.

If my library gets it, I am so reading it.

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10 minutes ago, Tatum said:

If my library gets it, I am so reading it.

Hey, you do you, but just remember that’s 5 minutes of your life you will never get back.  🤣

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2 minutes ago, geauxaway said:

Hey, you do you, but just remember that’s 5 minutes of your life you will never get back.  🤣

Oh geauxaway, DO NOT pretend you won't read it and like my posts when I come here to mock it.

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6 minutes ago, Tatum said:

Oh geauxaway, DO NOT pretend you won't read it and like my posts when I come here to mock it.

I’ll be popping the popcorn and pouring the drinks.  DUH!  Just make sure your recaps are in Leah speak so I can read them in mah head like.

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I think out of all teen mom girls, only Chelsea and Leah actually care how they are portrayed on camera. I notice Leah especially plays up her "trying to say the perfect thing all the time" on camera. I actually respect that about them because the rest of them sound ridiculous and I have to wonder how they don't care how they are portrayed.. especially Kail and her pettiness.

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I just got around to looking at Leah's IG and her Halloween pics.  Little Ali dressed up as Beyonce and I am beyond proud that Leah didn't use blackface.   😝

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2 hours ago, LBS said:

I just got around to looking at Leah's IG and her Halloween pics.  Little Ali dressed up as Beyonce and I am beyond proud that Leah didn't use blackface.   😝

She probably wanted to but Ali talked some sense into her. 

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Just now, Mkay said:

Yes, he's got Victoria for a mother, a random Costa Rican tour guide for a bio father, and will soon have a local hillbilly Victoria picked up at the American Legion to play "Uncle".

One would certainly conclude this kids has the world by the balls, wouldn't they.

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On 11/8/2019 at 3:50 PM, Snarky McSnarky said:

Looks like Leah is in L.A. fo a Mastery in Transformational Training class in parenting.

https://www.mittraining.com

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I hope this cult that she is joining doesn't teach her to pray Ali's disability away.  Leah should invest in a parenting class from muscular dystrophy experts not from these clowns who may tell her to encourage Ali to walk when she feels too weak to walk. 

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I guess a Victoria is a cast member now.  She’s getting paid like big sis for her Souvenir baby.  
 

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If she's referring to the Costa Rican oops child as #expensivesouvenir, she should change that to #mtvmealticket.

MTV is once again rewarding a woman for very questionable decisions regarding sexual partners and unprotected sex.

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1 hour ago, Snarky McSnarky said:

If she's referring to the Costa Rican oops child as #expensivesouvenir, she should change that to #mtvmealticket.

MTV is once again rewarding a woman for very questionable decisions regarding sexual partners and unprotected sex.

Teen Mama drama wrote #expensivesoubenir, not Victoria. Though I don’t doubt she may have said it a time or two.  Just seems like the direction their thinking would go. 

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2 minutes ago, Mkay said:

Teen Mama drama wrote #expensivesoubenir, not Victoria. Though I don’t doubt she may have said it a time or two.  Just seems like the direction their thinking would go. 

Thanks for the clarification!

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1 hour ago, Snarky McSnarky said:

Thanks for the clarification!

Welcome.  
 

The Momma to be sash is kinda weird considering she is already a mother. 

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5 hours ago, FairyDusted said:

I saw the sash and thought, “Well isn’t that special!” 

I read that as in the SNL church lady voice.  😆

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6 hours ago, FairyDusted said:

I saw the sash and thought, “Well isn’t that special!” 

I prefer "convenient".

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Strip mall ultrasound stores.  Ugh.

"Ultrasound is a valuable tool when done for medical purposes by trained professionals," said Jean Goodman, MD, Loyola University Health System. "But this technology should not be used for entertainment purposes to see an image of a baby or to identify gender."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/01/150107140752.htm

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I know this is just my personal quirk, but 3D ultrasounds freak me out. The babies always look like aliens and I don't like it. I refused to get 3D ultrasounds when I was pregnant.  People were like "Don't you want to see the baby's face?!" I was like "Nah, I'll see them when they're born and don't look like aliens swimming in gold lava."  Whenever people who are expecting show me print-outs of their 3D ultrasounds so I can see a baby's alien-gold face, I have to work really hard for my facial muscles and voice not to give away how not-cute I find 3D ultrasound views of babies. I find them all....breathtaking, as Elaine from Seinfeld would say. 

(Obviously if a 3D ultrasound had been needed for medical purposes, I'd have done it.  But for fun? No way. They're also not cheap unless MTV is paying.)

Victoria's 3D baby image above is one of the less weird looking 3D ultrasound pics of a baby I've seen, so I guess that's nice.....if you're into renting an ultrasound machine & tech, bringing the holler over to a country club, squishing jelly on your big bare belly in front of a ton of strangers, and hearing "oohs" and "ahhs" over your alien-trapped-in-gold-lava baby.  You do you, Victoria, as long as MTV is paying the bills. (And I'll judge like the old lady members of that country club surely did as the Messers all filed in.)  

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