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On 10/29/2018 at 7:26 PM, Rdh1314 said:

Yeah...that IS strange.  How is he bilingual?

Another American (non-Hispanic) here. Foreign language training was required in public schools in the state where I grew up. I'm bilingual today because I stuck with it from middle school through high school through college and beyond. I worked hard, studied abroad to develop my skills, and I still find ways to use my language skills in everyday life. There are definitely a lot of people who struggle and/or don't stick with it, but I think being bilingual is becoming progressively more common--particularly among college-educated young people, many of whom are now required to take language classes or study abroad in degree programs. It's opened a lot of doors for me.

On 11/10/2018 at 6:40 PM, Lily247 said:

From my perspective, it is kind of odd that Fernanda speaks English. I have lived in areas with large amount of Spanish speakers and many, many could not speak more than a few words of English, even after living in the U.S. for 10-15 years. 

Not really crazy about the implications in this post (i.e. immigrants aren't making an effort to learn English and Fernanda must have learned by hooking up with other American guys or hanging out at bars). I can't speak for Mexico, but there are many schools around the world that start English language instruction for children in kindergarten. In terms of pedagogy, that is better than the approach used by many American schools (who introduce a second language in middle schools, after the ideal window for acquiring language skills has started to close). Is it so hard to believe that Fernanda (and/or her parents) also prioritized her ability to learn English? 

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8 hours ago, LaChavalina said:

Another American (non-Hispanic) here. Foreign language training was required in public schools in the state where I grew up. I'm bilingual today because I stuck with it from middle school through high school through college and beyond. I worked hard, studied abroad to develop my skills, and I still find ways to use my language skills in everyday life. There are definitely a lot of people who struggle and/or don't stick with it, but I think being bilingual is becoming progressively more common--particularly among college-educated young people, many of whom are now required to take language classes or study abroad in degree programs. It's opened a lot of doors for me.

Not really crazy about the implications in this post (i.e. immigrants aren't making an effort to learn English and Fernanda must have learned by hooking up with other American guys or hanging out at bars). I can't speak for Mexico, but there are many schools around the world that start English language instruction for children in kindergarten. In terms of pedagogy, that is better than the approach used by many American schools (who introduce a second language in middle schools, after the ideal window for acquiring language skills has started to close). Is it so hard to believe that Fernanda (and/or her parents) also prioritized her ability to learn English? 

Not an American (by birth or upbringing) over here. I myself came from another country (in Europe) and when I came to the US, I did not learn to speak English at a fluent level for maybe 4-5 years. That is because I live in an area with a huge number of immigrants from the same country as me and if I want to go to the bank with tellers who speak my native tongue, I can choose to do so. If I need ankle surgery, I can easily find a podiatrist speaking my native language within 10 mins. The U.S. is a salad bowl not a melting pot and it is beautiful that immigrants are able to hold into their language and culture. 

The exact same holds true for English speakers who live abroad- many send their kids to English schools and immerse themselves amongst other English speakers. 

Where I come from English was not taught as a second language and I had to break my teeth to learn it as an adult. Did not meet an English speaker til I was 20. I was taught a different second language. I am not American by birth. Now I speak the language almost as well as an American.

So my point is, I am not implying something specifically about people of Hispanic origin, and that the phenomenon of not learning your new country's language can be found anywhere from any group. For example, in Saudi Arabia, there are children who have a Saudi father and non-Saudi mother, who are sent to English speaking schools and still in their preteens can barely speak Arabic. That is actually quite sad. 

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On 11/15/2018 at 2:40 PM, Lily247 said:

I get the vibe that Fernanda hung around tourist nightclubs and learned the language from guys like Jonathan. (Just a hunch). 

 

On 11/10/2018 at 6:40 PM, Lily247 said:

What I am guessing is that Fernanda dated other American guys prior to Jon and advanced her English skills that way, despite her having been young, it wouldnt surprise me. 

 

I'm just quoting a couple of the more objectionable statements that have been made on this thread. There's a very clear and ugly suggestion in these posts, and it doesn't have anything to do with how hard it is to learn another language. I won't belabor the point (sorry, mods), but I hope others might consider why statements like this--especially when made without any supporting evidence--are potentially hurtful to people.

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I like Fernanda.  I get why she wasn't thrilled with the drawers in the drawer, the bathroom break to blondie up on drunk Jon and Jon not telling his "jealous" mother about his marriage plans when family is important to her, and I'm not 19. I thought she handled herself well with the stuffy friends who had to get their immigrant digs in.  I think he's kinda creepy, in a used car salesman kind of way, as he is often trying to talk her into his way of thinking.  I don't see him so wise and all knowing.  

It's maddening watching the guests here feel that they have to prove themselves to these weird people, with little help from the ones who brought them here.  

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6 minutes ago, Kareem said:

I like Fernanda.  I get why she wasn't thrilled with the drawers in the drawer, the bathroom break to blondie up on drunk Jon and Jon not telling his "jealous" mother about his marriage plans when family is important to her, and I'm not 19. I thought she handled herself well with the stuffy friends who had to get their immigrant digs in.  I think he's kinda creepy, in a used car salesman kind of way, as he is often trying to talk her into his way of thinking.  I don't see him so wise and all knowing.  

It's maddening watching the guests here feel that they have to prove themselves to these weird people, with little help from the ones who brought them here.  

I had some sympathy for her till her little performance in the gym. She loved every moment of attention she was getting ( and Jon loved it too, everyone knowing he was banging a hot chick). 

She needs to grow up. And he needs to find someone closer to his own age, but first figure out his mommy issues. 

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19 hours ago, Honey said:

Say what you want about Jon, but he is very patient with her.  He really didn't do anything wrong at the club.  Her young age is showing.

He really didn't. In a talking head she said something like "He could have told her 'I'm engaged, I can't dance with you'" and that's exactly what he DID tell the other woman.

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She and Jon visit her dad in a bonus scene. She hasn’t seen him in three years (?) but he’s her best friend? I guess he left the family, not sure if he is in the US, looks like he either owns or works on a ranch. 

I sense Daddy issues. He’s a nice looking young guy, probably not much older than Jon. Wonder how old his gf is?

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5 hours ago, Empress1 said:

He really didn't. In a talking head she said something like "He could have told her 'I'm engaged, I can't dance with you'" and that's exactly what he DID tell the other woman.

He said that, but his body language was saying something else. He was touching her pretty intimately. 

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9 hours ago, marymary said:

He said that, but his body language was saying something else. He was touching her pretty intimately. 

I read that as he was touching her to keep her from pressing right up against his body.

Whenever I've been in clubs like that I've danced with other people who weren't my BF in a pretty sexy manner, and my boyfriend did the same.  Neither of us freaked out about it.  It's a tight dance floor, you're drinking, and you just get into the dancing, it really doesn't mean anything at all.  She is super jealous, and would drive me crazy, she wouldn't even let him talk so that he could explain.  It's a really good thing she wasn't drinking, can you imagine how bad that would have been?  But, like he said himself, how can he expect her to act mature, when she's not mature.  That's what I mean about him being very patient with her.  I do think it will get old pretty quickly though.  Unlike most of the people on here, I like Jon.

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2 hours ago, Honey said:

I read that as he was touching her to keep her from pressing right up against his body.

Whenever I've been in clubs like that I've danced with other people who weren't my BF in a pretty sexy manner, and my boyfriend did the same.  Neither of us freaked out about it.  It's a tight dance floor, you're drinking, and you just get into the dancing, it really doesn't mean anything at all.  She is super jealous, and would drive me crazy, she wouldn't even let him talk so that he could explain.  It's a really good thing she wasn't drinking, can you imagine how bad that would have been?  But, like he said himself, how can he expect her to act mature, when she's not mature.  That's what I mean about him being very patient with her.  I do think it will get old pretty quickly though.  Unlike most of the people on here, I like Jon.

As he told he too, if the cops get involved because she can’t control her temper, she’s screwed with the visa. 

One thing I noticed with Fernanda is she keeps saying that if her mom doesn’t approve of her marrying Jon, she won’t, but then even after expressing her concerns, mom gives her okay. Same with her dad, and he’s all tough and macho, but says it’s up to her. And she has a list of things Jonathan does or doesn’t do that might or might not break the engagement. Now she’s putting it on his mom, if she doesn’t approve, they won’t get married. I seems that she wants someone, mom, dad or anyone to stop her and non has. 

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On 11/19/2018 at 4:06 PM, Rdh1314 said:

Fernanda looks like a monkey.

I’ll just say I completely disagree with this statement. She’s probably one of the prettiest fiancées ever on the show, IMO.

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4 minutes ago, Rebecca said:

I’ll just say I completely disagree with this statement. She’s probably one of the prettiest fiancées ever on the show, IMO.

She is pretty.  I just don't like her harsh eyebrows.  She'd be even prettier with something a little softer.

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1 minute ago, funky-rat said:

She is pretty.  I just don't like her harsh eyebrows.  She'd be even prettier with something a little softer.

Her eyebrows are definitely the main thing that makes me think of a monkey..that and her facial expressions when she is throwing a tantrum or pouting.   

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Sorry if this has been discussed (I'm just catching up), but did anyone notice that Jonathan is wearing a wedding band? After the club debacle when they were in the parking lot and she was in the car, he puts his hand on the roof of the car and he is clearly wearing a wedding ring. So were they already married at that time...?

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2 hours ago, Teri313 said:

Sorry if this has been discussed (I'm just catching up), but did anyone notice that Jonathan is wearing a wedding band? After the club debacle when they were in the parking lot and she was in the car, he puts his hand on the roof of the car and he is clearly wearing a wedding ring. So were they already married at that time...?

I don’t think so.  On their first episode he stated he wears a wedding ring to make Fernanda feel better since they weren’t able to be together before she came on her visa.

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14 minutes ago, Peper81 said:

I don’t think so.  On their first episode he stated he wears a wedding ring to make Fernanda feel better since they weren’t able to be together before she came on her visa.

And she thinks that will keep him faithful.... or keep other women from hitting on him?LOL  It clearly doesn’t work since blondie was grinding up on  him despite the ring. Fernanda needs to mature a bit more before even thinking about marrying anyone let alone Jonathan.

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I remember Jonathan saying Fernanda was jealous and "made him" wear the wedding ring to show he wasn't available. However, that could backfire because there are women out there that take it as a challenge. 

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She made him wear it, why? To ward off other women? Clearly didn’t work. To keep HIM from doing anything ?  Didn’t work, as far as she is concerned. 

If Jon is going to cheat, there’s nothing that’s going to stop him. If she doesn’t trust him and clearly she doesnt, she needs to walk. And not just a little attention getting walk thru the parking lot.

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I feel sorry for Jon.  It's hell being with someone that jealous and immature.  Every time he leaves the house without her, every time he's on the phone, every time he's texting or on the computer, he's going to get the 3rd degree.  It's not worth it for a skinny piece of Mexican ass with nice bewbs.

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The fact that he’s wearing a ”wedding” ring to appease Fernanda’s jealousy just shows how immature she is for wanting him to wear it and he is for wearing it. No wonder mommy is skeptical. She could have gone about it differently but clearly she and Jon have issues. How a man treats his mother can be a good indicator of how he will treat his wife.

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I am sorry in advance if this post is not allowed here. Feel free to delete if so.

Someone on reddit who viewed the video said this:

The actual video was so..weird. when she grabs his dick and says "what the fuck is this?" And he says "It's a fucking penis " umm what?

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Nineteen and she has a dick sucking video out on the internet? Really classy. I’m sure mommy and daddy will be so thrilled.

I laugh now at her constant wailing about Jon disrespecting her. 

I wonder just how that video happened to get out?

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46 minutes ago, GrannySmith said:

It’s on Facebook, 90 Day Fiancé Savage Edition. Ask, and someone will message you the video. Warning, it can’t be unseen. 

I’ve ashamed to say I’ve already seen it 😂. It was nothing to write home about and I have a feeling he’s trying to stop it from spreading for that reason. 

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8 minutes ago, iwasish said:

Nineteen and she has a dick sucking video out on the internet? Really classy. I’m sure mommy and daddy will be so thrilled.

I laugh now at her constant wailing about Jon disrespecting her. 

I wonder just how that video happened to get out?

Fernanda posted the video on Instagram. People saved it and began sharing it. Then she deleted it and said it was a "huge mistake." The commentary in the video I posted above doesn't exactly match with a "mistake" but maybe I'm nuts.

They had some FB groups shut down and some 90daycraycray podcast and FB group went all nuts on Twitter and refuse to talk about them anymore due to threats people were getting. Apparently Jon was sending this to people:

 

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13 minutes ago, Awfarmington said:

I’ve ashamed to say I’ve already seen it 😂. It was nothing to write home about and I have a feeling he’s trying to stop it from spreading for that reason. 

I don't use Instagram an am confused. I just saw the video and it goes from Jon at home and then cuts to Fernanda sitting in what looks like a car saying something (there was no sound on the video I saw) and then jumps back home and shows "the" part of the video being talked about. People were saying it was a live video that Fernanda put up but why did it jump around to different locations?

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2 hours ago, configdotsys said:

Fernanda posted the video on Instagram. People saved it and began sharing it. Then she deleted it and said it was a "huge mistake." The commentary in the video I posted above doesn't exactly match with a "mistake" but maybe I'm nuts.

They had some FB groups shut down and some 90daycraycray podcast and FB group went all nuts on Twitter and refuse to talk about them anymore due to threats people were getting. Apparently Jon was sending this to people:

 

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Besides for the fact that he's totally nuts since the video originated with his wife, the Lumberton PD has been very tied up with a kidnapped child, now turned murdered child investigation...

https://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2018/11/28/authorities-id-body-hania-aguilar-teen-kidnapped-lumberton/2143367002/

They're going to be underwhelmed with his attempts at tying them up with playing internet detective on anonymous people regarding something situation wise that his wife caused.

This season's cast is really nuts - and also way too wrapped up in their social media presence and they keep causing themselves trouble on (or because of) social media and then blaming everyone but themselves!

Leida and Eric have done it (w/ Tasha primarily)

Fernanda and Jonathan now w/ the x-rated content

Ashley and Jay vs. her friend

Kalani vs. TLC production the first many episodes

Colt / Larissa / Deb and the DV mess (and them blaming the public for calling PD)

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Fernando was obviously sincere about making a good impression and wanting Jon's mother to like her by that posting.  This weird looking teenager from day one has made it very clear that her priorities in life are her cosmetically enhanced breasts and working hard on her body because she likes to "show it off."  Her words.  Another coupling of damaged people destined to eventually fail.

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14 hours ago, configdotsys said:

Fernanda posted the video on Instagram. People saved it and began sharing it. Then she deleted it and said it was a "huge mistake." The commentary in the video I posted above doesn't exactly match with a "mistake" but maybe I'm nuts.

They had some FB groups shut down and some 90daycraycray podcast and FB group went all nuts on Twitter and refuse to talk about them anymore due to threats people were getting. Apparently Jon was sending this to people:

 

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Investigate what? She posted it, she admitted to posting it, and she's over 18. There's no there there. If he's embarrassed that his fiancee posted a video of her sucking his dick on the internet, well, he should be, but that's between them. There's nothing for law enforcement to do. Maybe if it was revenge porn and she posted it without his consent or knowledge, which is possible - but that would mean that law enforcement deals with Fernanda, not the people who saw it.

Classy!

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15 hours ago, Awfarmington said:

I’ve ashamed to say I’ve already seen it 😂. It was nothing to write home about and I have a feeling he’s trying to stop it from spreading for that reason. 

Tiny peesh? 

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11 minutes ago, Gobi said:

I used to have a good opinion of Fernanda, until she blew it on Instagram.

Ha!  I see what you did there.

On a shallow note, if you do not have quality and impressive manbits, keep that thing to yourself.  No need to have it videoed and displayed for the masses.  Let that be your own secret shame. 

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2 hours ago, Gobi said:

I used to have a good opinion of Fernanda, but she blew it.

 

I see what you did there!

i wonder if Fernanda was pissed at Jon for some stupid thing and posted his teenie weenie to embarrass him. Her apology for the Huge mistake, struck me as of a Sorry, Not  Sorry kind of thing. Is she that bright?

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Strip Fernando naked, shave her head, and she still looks and acts like a young Goodall chimpanzee. 

And so what does that say about Jon?

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