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@Lily247 -- yeah, I haven't worked with autistic children and most of my exposure has been through my nephew. 

My nephew can handle loud noise, lights and crowds for limited time.  It's why my sister rented a car in Vegas, she could take the kids to a fun place like circus circus but she was able to go back to the car when it got to be too much for him and they could spend some quiet time before the next activity.  

I have no idea what's going on with him, but I think it's more than immaturity and living a sheltered life because that doesn't explain barking and smacking your own head, IMO.  

Given your experience with autism, how would you explain that behavior?  

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48 minutes ago, RealReality10 said:

@Lily247 -- yeah, I haven't worked with autistic children and most of my exposure has been through my nephew. 

My nephew can handle loud noise, lights and crowds for limited time.  It's why my sister rented a car in Vegas, she could take the kids to a fun place like circus circus but she was able to go back to the car when it got to be too much for him and they could spend some quiet time before the next activity.  

I have no idea what's going on with him, but I think it's more than immaturity and living a sheltered life because that doesn't explain barking and smacking your own head, IMO.  

Given your experience with autism, how would you explain that behavior?  

I woupd go so far as to call it attention seeking behavior. However.... we only see a tiny glinpse into Asuelo's life. Who knows if this is just how he is on camera ... 🤷‍♀️

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When I was a young woman, I thought it would be THE MOST ROMANTIC THING to meet a man, get swept off my feet and marry quite quickly.

Now that I'm older, I am a firm believer in A VERY LONG COURTSHIP.  

If you meet and fall in love with someone from another city, country or culture, there are going to be a lot of potholes along the way.  Cultural differences aside, there could be major differences in your attitudes towards money, family, friends etc. and none of these would be apparent in the first several months of couplehood.  Not to mention is someone is straightup crazy or kinky or abusive. 

If you are a reasonably established adult, then you are going to have lots of habits and opinions, likes/dislikes that are pretty firmly cemented.  Hook up with someone else who is in the same boat and there is lots of room for conflict.  I guess the upside of marrying the boy next door or your high school sweetheart is that you literally grow together and will have an advantage in the long-term compatibility lotto.

I know there are exceptions everywhere (and congrats to all of you), but in the context of 90DF, these people are all fools.  FOOLS I TELL YOU.

I hate these asshats.

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57 minutes ago, Auntie Anxiety said:

For today’s drama, here’s an article in the Daily Mail. Hard to tell exactly what the true story is, but I thought it’s worth reading so you’ll have more information upon viewing Sunday’s Tell Nothing, Part Deux.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6582209/90-Day-Fianc-s-Larissa-Dos-Santos-Lima-ARRESTED-fight-husband-Colt.html

Larissa needs to go home.  Things are not going to get any better and will probably get worse.

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On 1/7/2019 at 12:49 PM, Bridget said:

Jay didn’t know what monogamous meant, but he used the word “clout” when discussing Larissa? Granted, he used “clout” incorrectly, but still! 

I shouldn’t be surprised with anything any of these morons do, but when Fern & Ashley were talking shit about Larissa and saying she needs to work out, I almost kicked my TV. Nearly everyone had a laugh or chuckle at that comment, including the men, and it sent me over the edge.

I don’t have a horse in the race, but body shaming is unacceptable, period. I can’t wait for any of those mean bitches, male or female, to gain 10lbs. 

Do we think Leida will ever learn the name of Alessandro’s new step-sister/nanny/primary caregiver mom? It’s Jennica, not Jenna. I wonder why Eric doesn’t correct her. I wish the season had aired in its entirety so that Leida would have been the recipient of the ass kicking that was long overdue.

Did Kolini know she was flashing her boobs to everyone in that velvet jumpsuit? I didn’t even notice Kalani breastfeeding Oliver because Kolini’s cleavage was out of control.

While I think Kolini had the best outfit of the entire couch, it didn’t fit her at all. Lack of jewelry and those ugly black booties didn’t help either. Her jumpsuit somehow managed to be too short (the length), too snug in some parts and way too big on top. 

Family Kalani is a bunch of cafeteria plan Mormons, which is fine, but to describe yourself as Mormon and then proceed to drink alcohol and wear immodest clothing just confuses everyone. 

1/2 of my family is Mormon and while my dad was born a Mormon he was called a jack Mormon because he smoked and drank.

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19 hours ago, Bridget said:

After I taught high school for a few years, I opted to go back and earn my Education Specialist credential. In the state of California, completion of that specific credential mandates that participants complete additional coursework in order to earn a separate certificate that is an authorization to teach students with autism. (Think of the autism authorization as minoring in a subject during college.) 

A professor I had at the time, who earned her Ph.D. in studying autism, shared a very profound message with us. I have always believed that everyone, not just educators, would benefit from hearing her words of wisdom.

Once you meet one person with autism, you’ve met one person with autism.

I don’t know what experiences any of you have had with people who have autism, but I implore you to remember what my professor said. 

Just because someone seems “off” and English isn’t their first language, it doesn’t mean they have autism.

For all we know, Asuelu could have a TBI (traumatic brain injury), hence his speech pattern and the pace at which he is learning English, which is second only to Mandarin Chinese in terms of it being the most difficult language in the world to learn. 

Additionally, if Asuelo isn’t literate in his primary language, he will never be literate in a second language. 

There are many reasons people act the way they do, assholes or non-assholes. Combining my personal and professional experiences, including working with students who have varying degrees of autism at the collegiate level to teaching high school in a classroom based on the format of inclusion, I can assure you that Asuelo is not on the spectrum at all. 

Throwing the “autism” label around isn’t anyone’s place, especially if you have no firsthand experience or professional training with this multi-faceted diagnosis

I have a 17 year old cousin in Dayton, Ohio (Ian) who has such a severe form of autism that he’s been non-verbal his entire life. He also attends a special school for students who need 1:1 instruction, wears diapers and has a service dog. The service dog will be retiring this year, so now they are back to raising $15k for a new service dog. My aunt and uncle are going to be taking care of him for the rest of their lives. They can’t jump on a plane or head out of town for a long weekend because they have to take care of Ian. 

 

Amen! As a mental health practitioner who specializes in autism, I would never attempt to assess someone for being on the spectrum via television. People on the spectrum are as varied as people with depression or anxiety. It would be silly to say, “I met two people with depression and they were rude” and infer some sort of pattern. A stereotype is a stereotype, no matter how you justify it. The only way to say if any of these people have autism is to have clinical testing completed. 

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11 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Based on my observations and professional experiences, including teaching high school students in a classroom designed for inclusion, I can assure you that Ansuelo is not on the spectrum at all. 

So what you're saying then is that he's just an asshole...

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1 hour ago, Spike said:

The article previously posted said the police determined her injuries were self-inflicted.

That’s exactly what I said in the other thread, she didn’t have the red, teary eyes, crazed look of someone who’d just been beat up.

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51 minutes ago, Major Bigtime said:

That’s exactly what I said in the other thread, she didn’t have the red, teary eyes, crazed look of someone who’d just been beat up.

They also observed that he chews his nails so he could not have inflicted deep scratches like she had.

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Has anyone seen this police report?  I don't automatically buy that Larissa attacked herself and attacked Colt.  

But "I'm a total victim, did nothing wrong, didn't attack anyone and was just jumped by Larissa out of the blue" sounds exactly like something a manipulative person like Colt would claim.  

If Larissa was arrested based on Colt's say so and the fact that he got to the phone first I'll be annoyed.

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1 hour ago, Apollo said:

Well, now you have me thinking.  Kalani called her sister "the Dad" of her baby boy too.  Everything is a bit twisted, right? ... Especially the long, intensely drawn-out staring contests they have over every manufactured drama.  I keep thinking what a hilarious skit MADtv would have done with them, if it were still airing.    Then again, they're already parodies of themselves at this point!

You're the Lini to my Lani

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1 hour ago, Spike said:

They also observed that he chews his nails so he could not have inflicted deep scratches like she had.

One of the news sites. maybe TMZ said that cops saw that he is a nail biter, but that Yates guy posted a half a dozen pictures of Colt's hands from the show and he is clearly not a nail biter at all. Perhaps when the cops came and he was not there, he bit them off. There's no way to know.

The scratches on her sides looked like superficial scratches that did not tear skin but just left red marks that went in so many directions. It was those red marks that made me think self-inflicted. In one of the pictures, it appears that her face has a long, vertical slice. She says in the video that she hit him (there is a pic of him with a bloody cut in his mouth) because he was hurting her and while she says "hurting me" she is pointing out the vertical cut. But then later, I think one of the pictures after she was treated or maybe from jail, does not show anything that resembles a deep, vertical gash on her face. It's so hard to keep up with all the postings and pictures all over the place so maybe there never was a picture of her after she was cleaned up.

I just saw that Deb posted a response to a vicious commenter who said something about cat being lucky it's dead because it doesn't have to live in a crazy house or something. That is way over the line and absolutely disgusting.

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^ see that's the thing.  I envision a situation where the cops show up and Colt calmly shows them his recently chewed nails as "proof" that he is a chronic nail biter and couldn't have done anything to Larissa.  And because he is so calm and rational the cops believe him.

This is why I'd be interested to see the report.  Im on a cell phone so I didn't see the shallow scratches on her face, but that deep gash is going to leave a mark and someone as vain as Larissa doesn't strike me as the type of person who would give herself a facial injury deep enough to leave a scar.

Deb should stay off social media.  Nothing good can come of that, for every Amy Schumer giving her praise there are going to be three people telling her some of awful.

I'm not a Deb fan, but if I were her I would probably want to go to a retirement community where no one watched this show and we went on day trips and played bingo and stuff.

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11 minutes ago, configdotsys said:

One of the news sites. maybe TMZ said that cops saw that he is a nail biter, but that Yates guy posted a half a dozen pictures of Colt's hands from the show and he is clearly not a nail biter at all. Perhaps when the cops came and he was not there, he bit them off. There's no way to know.

The scratches on her sides looked like superficial scratches that did not tear skin but just left red marks that went in so many directions. It was those red marks that made me think self-inflicted. In one of the pictures, it appears that her face has a long, vertical slice. She says in the video that she hit him (there is a pic of him with a bloody cut in his mouth) because he was hurting her and while she says "hurting me" she is pointing out the vertical cut. But then later, I think one of the pictures after she was treated or maybe from jail, does not show anything that resembles a deep, vertical gash on her face. It's so hard to keep up with all the postings and pictures all over the place so maybe there never was a picture of her after she was cleaned up.

I just saw that Deb posted a response to a vicious commenter who said something about cat being lucky it's dead because it doesn't have to live in a crazy house or something. That is way over the line and absolutely disgusting.

I think the daily mail article also said the blood spatter was on Larissa and it would have been on Colt if he inflicted the injuries.

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There is a pic on the Savage FB page that says is it her mug shot. She has two obvious pimples on her face in the picture and no vertical cut so she may have just ::squick alert:: 

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picked at them until they bled and then smeared it around to look worse than it is. 

I have said more than once here that I thought their relationship was a charade and a set up. I don't believe that anymore. Once the actual police are involved and regularly coming out to the house, it sure seems like they are just both fucking insane.

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22 minutes ago, configdotsys said:

There is a pic on the Savage FB page that says is it her mug shot. She has two obvious pimples on her face in the picture and no vertical cut so she may have just ::squick alert:: 

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picked at them until they bled and then smeared it around to look worse than it is. 

I have said more than once here that I thought their relationship was a charade and a set up. I don't believe that anymore. Once the actual police are involved and regularly coming out to the house, it sure seems like they are just both fucking insane.

The relationship is toxic.  I knew that they didn’t love one another but it seems like they can’t even tolerate each other.  The sex for a green card swap may work for some, but not here.

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Do you think they are scrambling to re-edit the second part of the tell all on Sunday that was clearly more concentrated on colt and Larissa?  Not sure either of them is worth a kinder edit or a kind edit to begin with...depending on who they wanted to make the bad guy...fernanda or Larissa.  Or maybe edit them so that they have overall less time for the finale?

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On 1/7/2019 at 1:52 PM, trimthatfat said:

Yes. Most cobblers in major cities can add a red rubber replacement sole to Louboutins so the red remains intact.

I do not buy the fact that all of the women who appear on the 90 Day Tell All own Louboutin shoes.  Except for Danielle, of course.  I always thought that the studio dressed the women for the show.  The soles of Louboutins will scuff, just as any other shoe.  Of course, you can always go to Payless and buy a $19.99 pair of stiletto heels and buy the red sole coloring on Amazon for a few bucks. 

On 1/7/2019 at 2:27 PM, MajorNelson said:

I think the finger gun at 0:23 was pretty bad; I caught that live.

I saw the 'finger gun' also but I assumed he was just pointing, I didn't take it as a threat.

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@alegtostandon - I totally assume most of the "red bottoms" in this show are the result of the red stickers you can buy online.  Although leida's red bottoms were super scuffed so hers might be real.  

Personally, I think it's silly to pay ridiculous amounts of money for a shoe JUST because it has a red bottom.  If you like an expensive shoe that's fine,but if you're wearing red bottoms just to prove.to everyone else you're rich that seems guache, IMO.

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Well Jonathan specifically walked in with a CL white bag that held fernandas shoes.  So either fake bag, product placement or rental...who knows.  She awkwardly had them facing up the entire time so maybe she was trying not to scuff them so that they could return them.  LOL

Leidas soles were a janky mess.  For as vain as she is she should have thrown those out years ago.  But they are kind of a metaphor for her life.  You have to walk a lot of hard miles to get them worn through like that.  

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28 minutes ago, RealReality10 said:

@alegtostandon - I totally assume most of the "red bottoms" in this show are the result of the red stickers you can buy online.  Although leida's red bottoms were super scuffed so hers might be real.  

Personally, I think it's silly to pay ridiculous amounts of money for a shoe JUST because it has a red bottom.  If you like an expensive shoe that's fine,but if you're wearing red bottoms just to prove.to everyone else you're rich that seems guache, IMO.

You don’t have to be rich to wear Loubs..you can certainly get them at consignment.  Like most fashion labels or logos it’s just branding.  Both rich and poor people brand.  Both rich and poor people don’t care about labels.  Depends on what you personally want to put out there, not how much money is in your bank account.  This entire show is built on people who need to be in the spotlight, make poor money decisions and value mostly superficial appearance items in life.  I’m shocked the entire cast isn’t in super logoed Gucci or Supreme with all red bottom shoes like some kind of weird uniform.  

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2 hours ago, alegtostandon said:

I always thought that the studio dressed the women for the show. 

I didn’t think they dress the women but it’s obvious they do their hair and makeup. That’s why I was confused at Larissa’s claim that the airline lost the luggage containing her dresses and makeup and she traveled makeup free. The Tell All was filmed in November and a few episodes had already aired so I was surprised Larissa would allow her new fans to see her looking less than glamorous. 

Those studio hair stylists can work miracles. They made Danielle and Nicole look presentable. I’m not sure if the same team was involved in the After Show, but somebody made Debbie look good. 

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14 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

>BRIDGET SAID:

Family Kalani is a bunch of cafeteria plan Mormons, which is fine, but to describe yourself as Mormon and then proceed to drink alcohol and wear immodest clothing just confuses everyone. 

 

1/2 of my family is Mormon and while my dad was born a Mormon he was called a jack Mormon because he smoked and drank.

Yates posted something allegedly from Kalani on why she left Mormonism.  Also on her 20's life since leaving...

https://twitter.com/JohnYates327/status/1083467529203400704

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3 hours ago, MajorNelson said:

Looked to me like pulling a trigger and blowing them (or him or her) away.

I didn't get that vibe but won't discount others' interpretations of it. He was clearly over the edge.

Today we have Steven fighting online with Asuelu. Pure comedy. Mr. Responsible Even Thought I'm Only 20 and who posted recently on this FB page how he finally passed a drug test and can get a job is telling Asuelu that "at least I can support my wife and kid." He neglected to mention, of course, that it's other people's money via GFM that are doing the supporting.

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17 hours ago, RealReality10 said:

Has anyone seen this police report?  I don't automatically buy that Larissa attacked herself and attacked Colt.  

But "I'm a total victim, did nothing wrong, didn't attack anyone and was just jumped by Larissa out of the blue" sounds exactly like something a manipulative person like Colt would claim.  

If Larissa was arrested based on Colt's say so and the fact that he got to the phone first I'll be annoyed.

We are to believe that a female that thinks she is sooo beautiful and sooo sexy and just loves taking selfies.........would do that to her FACE?  No, I don't buy it. The scratches on her side/back.....maybe but not those injuries to her face. 

Colt gets to call first and mommy backs his play? (Meanwhile Larissa is not really fluent in English at the BEST of times and is also 'nuts') Who are the police going to believe? They should have arrested BOTH of them. 

I don't buy his story for one little bit (and I am one who dislikes Larissa ). He needs jail. She needs to go back and Mommy dearest needs to get her own damn life. 

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14 hours ago, HappyDancex2 said:

Do you think they are scrambling to re-edit the second part of the tell all on Sunday that was clearly more concentrated on colt and Larissa?  Not sure either of them is worth a kinder edit or a kind edit to begin with...depending on who they wanted to make the bad guy...fernanda or Larissa.  Or maybe edit them so that they have overall less time for the finale?

They won't edit......though they should. 

They should edit them out entirely based on this.

The show needs to do some or better vetting. Someone is going to get really hurt or killed. TLC needs to know this is unacceptable.

Ever since Mo and De the 'characters' have been getting sketchier and weirder.  We went from a scammer (Mo) to a pot dealer and then an arsonist (Paul) and now

a total psycho who goes to Russia (can't even think of his name) and a creepy Norman Bates type who lives with Mommy. 

People are showing more and more bad behavior just to get on the show! ......and TLC is rewarding them. 

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5 hours ago, configdotsys said:

Today we have Steven fighting online with Asuelu. Pure comedy. Mr. Responsible Even Thought I'm Only 20 and who posted recently on this FB page how he finally passed a drug test and can get a job is telling Asuelu that "at least I can support my wife and kid." He neglected to mention, of course, that it's other people's money via GFM that are doing the supporting.

I saw these comments supposedly made by Asuelu to Steven 

"Why you need your wife to say ‘thank you' to you, motherf—ker? Your wife didn't want to say "thank you" to you, asshole. You make her pregnant. That's your job, to look after her..." 

I thought this was interesting for two reasons. First, where does Asuelu get off talking about looking after someone’s wife and child when Family Kalani complained he contributed nothing to support Oliver after he was born. Second, it looks like Kalani’s potty mouth is rubbing off on Asuelu. 

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17 minutes ago, magemaud said:

I saw these comments supposedly made by Asuelu to Steven 

"Why you need your wife to say ‘thank you' to you, motherf—ker? Your wife didn't want to say "thank you" to you, asshole. You make her pregnant. That's your job, to look after her..." 

I thought this was interesting for two reasons. First, where does Asuelu get off talking about looking after someone’s wife and child when Family Kalani complained he contributed nothing to support Oliver after he was born. Second, it looks like Kalani’s potty mouth is rubbing off on Asuelu. 

And since his name is perilously close to asshole he might want to choose a different insult.

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On 1/11/2019 at 2:35 PM, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

Me too! Totally.

Even if it is boring she needs grilling. No accountibility.  Ausuelo, her family, no one will keep her accountable. Just perpetual religious, Father Kalani dysfunctional BS.

Those poor kids. All 3, the 2 babies and Encino Man (Ausuelo). 

I think Andy Cohen would be awesome as the host.He has no problem bringing up dirt. Shaun could learn a thing or two from him.

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10 minutes ago, Bubbles1967 said:

I think Andy Cohen would be awesome as the host.He has no problem bringing up dirt. Shaun could learn a thing or two from him.

Andy Cohen will bring up dirt with absolute glee.  It's pretty great.  Perez Hilton was the same way, also, I'm sure he is way more inline with the TLC budget.

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Does the show turn these people into monsters, or were they monsters all along just waiting to be unleashed?

I saw a TMZ video of Larissa supposedly complaining of abuse.   She's filming herself, meanwhile Colt is in the background filming her.   It felt like a bad episode of Black Mirror.   Reality for these idiots is defined by what can be captured on camera.   They're like fetishists who become consumed by their fetish.  They leave real life behind and give themselves over body and soul to the thing that gets them off, relationships, employment and all else be damned.   Maybe I'm overly sensitive but I found the sight of Colt hovering in the background, smirking as he's filming Larissa, to be positively chilling, like there's nobody at home in that body anymore, just an insatiable hunger for clicks and tweets.   Now I read here that disgusting old Debbie has shambled onto social media as well.   Whatever or whoever Colt and Debbie were in their lives before, that's gone now, and it's never coming back.  Has it dawned on them that this is going to end and probably soon?   Sure, they have attention at the moment but do they think anyone watching their antics truly cares whether they live or die?   When I was a child, a drug-addled woman who lived near our school used to come to the schoolyard sometimes when we were at recess and perform the saddest striptease you ever saw.   We always watched her and laughed at her -- some kids would throw stuff in her hair, food or whatever -- at least until the teachers hustled her off the premises.   I haven't thought of her in a long time but I did after watching that TMZ video.

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22 hours ago, HappyDancex2 said:

Well Jonathan specifically walked in with a CL white bag that held fernandas shoes.  So either fake bag, product placement or rental...who knows.  She awkwardly had them facing up the entire time so maybe she was trying not to scuff them so that they could return them.  LOL

Leidas soles were a janky mess.  For as vain as she is she should have thrown those out years ago.  But they are kind of a metaphor for her life.  You have to walk a lot of hard miles to get them worn through like that.  

Unless things have changed, Mr. Louboutin does not do freebies or product placement. Women wearing his shoes pay for them.

You can find both fakes and real ones on eBay, consignment shops, Kjiji, fake Louboutin sites, wherever. Some styles also go on sale. I bought a couple of pairs at Saks when I went to a conference in Vegas several years ago - they were about 70% off.  The Louboutin store also had variosu styles on sale, as did the shoe store in the Wynn hotel. They are not stocked where I live - or haven't been in a while. A few pairs do show up every now and then. The cost for me to get Vibram rubber soles from the local cobbler was $70/pair. A lot of money and I consider doing so for only my favourites (I have 8 pairs of them);

Leida's looked like snakeskin/python and I would think she would have protected her investment in such an expensive pair (if they were real) but getting the rubber soles added. Maybe she doesn't care.

If you are lucky, and your size is available, you can hit the clearance sales and get all sorts of high-end shoes on sale at a good price. I recently bought some Aquazurra pom pom leopard print mules for about 80% off.

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47 minutes ago, Kiss my mutt said:

I didn’t think Steven made much money on his go fund account? It’s still tacky as hell. 

Actually, he went over his $ 5K goal by $ 835 and is no longer accepting donations. Yesterday, Larissa (or someone on her behalf) also started an emergency GFM "for a new start". The $ 5K goal was reached in less than 24 hours. (check it out, some of the comments and the donors' names are pretty funny) 

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8 minutes ago, magemaud said:

Actually, he went over his $ 5K goal by $ 835 and is no longer accepting donations. Yesterday, Larissa (or someone on her behalf) also started an emergency GFM "for a new start". The $ 5K goal was reached in less than 24 hours. (check it out, some of the comments and the donors' names are pretty funny) 

Thank you. Wow! Some people have more money than sense.  

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8 hours ago, magemaud said:

I don’t believe that Coltee is a nail biter. In fact, he strikes me as the type of guy to have creepy long nails. 

If his defense is that he's a nail biter and could not have inflicted those scratches, HER lawyer should show all of the hours of film with him with long nails.  They are obvious and visible.

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