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Aside from losing HH, this was good. Felt more like our show. Glad to see Mosley facing trouble for her actions. And as a committed K/D shipper, I'm so glad they made up. Interesting dream/hallucination in the beginning.

Given that Sam is now the only parent his children have I would think he'd be a bit more careful in the field. Or that we'd hear him talking about having to survive/get back for Kam and Aiden's sake. From what we've gotten to know about Sam in the previous nine years it seem out of character for him not to worry about them.

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I wish the Admiral was right and Hetty had parachuted into Mexico to save them. I like Gerald McCraney but I missed Hetty. I assume since Sam killed the general's son that he's going to be after revenge. I can't think of any other reason to make the random assassin his son. 

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That is such a shame about Hidoko, I am guttered.  She really rocked.  Maybe she isn't dead and has been left as a plant and needs to stay on the down low now that Turk has been identified as an NCIS Agent?  I can only wish, I know.

I loved the action, I loved Turk, I even loved the fact that the guy from Vietnam, whose name I have forgotten for the moment, was there to help with the rescue.  The admiral was a classic with the coffee and Mosley killing her ex kind of shored up a few loose ends when it came to custody etc.  I am glad there are going to be consequences for her (or it seems like it now, time will tell).  I missed Hetty, even though we knew she was out putting a rescue mission into play, only hearing her voice was disappointing.  

 

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19 minutes ago, LittlePeas3 said:

That is such a shame about Hidoko, I am guttered.  She really rocked. 

Let's hope the actress gets lots of offers of  great, well written roles.  She was one of the few characters that I hoped to see in other NCIS universes.  

Damn, just damn.

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This is my pet peeve in all NCIS universes - all of the characters I like get killed off. And it's almost always the female characters (although NCIS is guilty of killing off male characters that are just introduced ...). Cait, Paula Cassidy, director Shepard, Agent Lee, and Ziva on the mothership, then Lara Macy, Michelle Hanna, Hunter and now Hidoko here. New Orleans subverted it by not killing their female characters and instead chased off the female cast and writers with a harassing douchecanoe as showrunner.

I just hate when they give us interesting female characters and then - hey, time to die!

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I've had a feeling for awhile that if I only keep watching one NCIS this is the one it would be.  Not quitting the others, but I won't be fast-forwarding during this series this year.

Callan pushed on until he couldn't, no hero-posturing keep going and don't fall down until everyone is saved crap.

Sam did (as usual) keep pushing but when the kid ran away he went back to Callan, knowing that he wouldn't find anything he needed before the kid brought back the bad guys.  When the kid did, in fact, bring back the good guys, that was nice.

Kensi is bad-ass.  That is all.

Deeks has nice dreams, and knows when to regain consciousness when absolutely necessary.  That the ex-priest and his wife couldn't resist that bounty was a believable touch, and they deserved to be rolled out of their own car.

Mosely at least did some clean-up.  Show seemed to have heard the fan complaints about consequences....

Gerald MacRainey makes everything better.  I like that he was using Hetty's office and not Mosely's.

Jeff Kober and the voice of Linda Hunt were not really enough....

Normally I hate it when a show reduces or outright cuts the title sequence, but for this show, with all the knowing poses and significant looks in the title sequence of old, it is a magnificent improvement.

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I wonder what the working atmosphere is like on this set. We've seen lots of turnover on the other two shows in this universe and there's been lots of rumors swirling about the actual working conditions. But here, the cast has been remarkably stable for going on 10 years. All three female leads have remained past the length of the original contracts and have clearly reupped. And you can't tell me that Linda Hunt at least wouldn't have other projects to move onto. You never hear rumors about dissension on the set or creepy showrunners. And compared to the Mothership they have killed off far fewer characters. The only person out of the main title sequence that we have actually lost was due to the death of the actor. For a show going into their 10th season I think that's rather remarkable.

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I assume Hetty was present in voice only due to Linda Hunt's car accident around the time they started filming. 

I wouldn't be surprised if they had the whole arc planned out last season and always intended to kill Hidoko in the Mexico mission. They couldn't kill off one of the Big Four, but they needed a way for the trip to have consequences for the audience and the characters. It would make sense from a storyline perspective for the writers to have planned out far in advance who the casualty would be and how to endear that person to the audience so her death was meaningful. I'm not at all surprised by the revelation--the actress seemed to pretty clearly state in her thank you to fans that she was done, and while I know some were holding out hope that the guest cast was altered for spoilers, I don't think they've done that in a very long time. As for the killing off women thing, this show has a general history of killing off every NCIS LA agent we know by name who ISN'T one of the main cast. I think Nate is the only one who's still around, and he started as a regular rather than a guest. Watch your back, Arlo Turk!

I really liked the episode. In NY we had no sound for part of it, but I still thought it was exciting and a satisfying resolution. I think the show maybe has a different idea of what it's going to take to redeem Moseley than I do, though. Because I'm not that impressed with her for helping get the team out of the situation that she herself unilaterally created with no regard for anyone's safety or professional integrity. 

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This was one of those episodes that i had a bit of trouble following. Was this a carryover from last season cliffhanger?  Did the priest and his wife suddenly decide to go for the bounty or were they playing K and D the whole time?  Was he even really an ex priest? 

I like the addition of Major Dad. 

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Last year was a bust.  You don’t break up my ships!!!!! But the show made up for it with the scene where Kensi told Deeks she would have sex with him right there in the desert if he woke up.  

Yes Kensi is a bad ass. 

Slightly disappointed that Hetty didn’t parashuit into Mexico to save them all 

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3 hours ago, anna0852 said:

I wonder what the working atmosphere is like on this set. We've seen lots of turnover on the other two shows in this universe and there's been lots of rumors swirling about the actual working conditions. But here, the cast has been remarkably stable for going on 10 years. All three female leads have remained past the length of the original contracts and have clearly reupped. And you can't tell me that Linda Hunt at least wouldn't have other projects to move onto. You never hear rumors about dissension on the set or creepy showrunners. And compared to the Mothership they have killed off far fewer characters. The only person out of the main title sequence that we have actually lost was due to the death of the actor. For a show going into their 10th season I think that's rather remarkable.

I think this is why the show has always been my favourite of the NCISs. You can tell they all seem to really like each other and that the working conditions are better than the other shows. Especially New Orleans, and the tension last year on the mothership was so freaking obvious it bled into the show like crazy. So I think they have a much more stable show and better leadership.

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I loved the episode. It's been my favorite in a long time. I hope this season focuses on the main four. I love the two pairings. Sam/Callen really pulled at my heart strings with the we had a good run scene. Kensi is so bad ass. I love seeing her in that type of role in the episodes. I think the admiral was an unnecessary character but realize they needed him in Hetty's place since Linda was out. I love Turk, love him. I found when he told Kensi that she was ok and saved Deeks, very touching. 

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Hello! What a premiere huh? Great way to kick off season X. These actors and crew work so hard.  Our Ms Hunt was in a car accident and couldn't be in the episode as planned but she did lend her voice for the call. This is probably in my top five of the series. It wasn't heavy on action but on emotional characters beats and carried by the strength of the actors. Brava to Dani, Chris, Todd, Eric, Gerald, Nia and Max 

6 hours ago, Jillibean said:

I wouldn't be surprised if they had the whole arc planned out last season and always intended to kill Hidoko in the Mexico mission.

I'll say this: She actually got more episodes than planned b/c of her onscreen presents and chemistry with the cast . . . . but Andrea Bordeaux was always meant to be recurring. 

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15 hours ago, LittlePeas3 said:

.....and Mosley killing her ex kind of shored up a few loose ends when it came to custody etc.  I am glad there are going to be consequences for her (or it seems like it now, time will tell).

Since the Mothership was a spinoff of JAG, I hope that they revive that show for an episode or two when they try Mosley for all sorts of stuff.

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1 hour ago, Samantha84 said:

I read the whole thing, but I must have missed, what does OTP mean?  

11 minutes ago, Notwisconsin said:

Since the Mothership was  spinoff of JAG, I hope that they revive that show for an episode or two when they try Mosley for all sorts of stuff.

Ideally, that would be so cool, however, I would have thought that would only happen if Mosely was in one of the armed forces?  If I remember correctly, in NCIS, whenever we got a JAG-type arc, it was when the JAG officer was representing someone in the Navy specifically?

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random thought, I am re-watching the premiere, in the opening sequence, ECO's hair looks atrocious, I wonder what he  would look like with a decent hair cut?  I am not saying short like CO'D's, but just a hair cut!  

 

And wouldn't Callen be in some kind of collar if he had a fractured vertebrae?  

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56 minutes ago, LittlePeas3 said:

what does OTP mean

One True Pairing 

Am a fan of Nia Long as an actress but goodness I can do without Shane Mosley. No spoilers .....but the fallout from this mission will play out over the next dozen or so episodes. 

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3 minutes ago, Samantha84 said:

One True Pairing 

Am a fan of Nia Long as an actress but goodness I can do without Shane Mosley. No spoilers .....but the fallout from this mission will play out over the next dozen or so episodes. 

Not sure how I feel about the fall out lasting that long. I just want to put season 9 in the past and have new story lines. The premiere was already keeps better than last season. 

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2 minutes ago, Beatrice said:

Not sure how I feel about the fall out lasting that long. I just want to put season 9 in the past and have new story lines. The premiere was already keeps better than last season. 

@Beatrice, I am with you on the fallout not lasting too long.  The fallout from going to Afghanistan for Hetty only lasted 2 or 3 episodes, I know the mole lasted longer, but the senate hearings were not that long.

@Samantha84, cheers, I kept coming up with on television partner LOL

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I do not want this to be wrapped up quick.  Hidoko died. Mosley's coworker and her ally within the team. Someone has to answer for that. Realistically she would be at the least demoted and worse brought up on charges 

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24 minutes ago, Samantha84 said:

Hidoko died. Mosley's coworker and her ally within the team. Someone has to answer for that.

Hidoko died because of Mosley's lack of planning, not just her poor planning.  ( I'll guess that Hidoko didn't have an identical twin who will come in and avenge her sister.....where's a good identical twin arc when you want it?

And then Mosley shot and killed an American citizen who happened to be in a foreign country where guns (snicker now) aren't supposed to be in private ownership.  That citizen has family and they might want custody of their grandchild, nephew, kin because they might not want the child to be reared by a woman who murdered his Father.  

1 hour ago, LittlePeas3 said:

what he  would look like with a decent hair cut?

Head injuries often require hair cuts to get in and clean out the damaged area.  I guess it would have ruined the mood if Kensi had asked them to cut as little hair as possible.  But his really dirty hair, made even dirtier by the accident, would have made medical treatment of a head wound really problematic.

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3 minutes ago, enoughcats said:

Hidoko died because of Mosley's lack of planning, not just her poor planning.  ( I'll guess that Hidoko didn't have an identical twin who will come in and avenge her sister.....where's a good identical twin arc when you want 

And then Mosley shot and killed an American citizen who happened to be in a foreign country where guns (snicker now) aren't supposed to be in private ownership.  That citizen has family and they might want custody of their grandchild, nephew, kin because they might not want the child to be reared by a woman who murdered his Father.  

Head injuries often require hair cuts to get in and clean out the damaged area.  I guess it would have ruined the mood if Kensi had asked them to cut as little hair as possible.  But his really dirty hair, made even dirtier by the accident, would have made medical treatment of a head wound really problematic.

Hidoko supposedly went down there on her own. Not on Mosely's orders. So while Mosely has to answer for a lot, I don't think Hidoko's death is one of those things. 

Given that the man she killed, the father was a criminal that killed people as well, I'm not that sad about it nor mad at Mosley for it. I'm fine with them just writing Mosley off the show via firing her. Although, Hetty basically got a free pass for Afghanistan so...

One other thing about the Mosley storyline, the way Deeks so vehemently disagreed without her beating the prisoner etc to find a loved one, I recall him doing that on more than one occasion. That's just something that bugged we about last season. 

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We all know Moseley is a great character to dislike. Granger was a company man but understood that you sometimes had to do the wrong thing for the right reason.  Moseley came in to supposedly disrupt a good group of agents because the relationships they had with one another was distracting to the mission.

In a life and death situation, you must rely on your good relationships to keep you safe. This band of agents kept their team safe because they cared about each other. Moseley seemed to sweep right pass that and on several occasions commented that her intent was to break them up. 

As a leader, she used intimidation, arrogance and a haranguing temperament to keep her people in line. She was so unlike Hetty who used finesse and persuasion. Although Hetty could be stern and authoritative, she displayed true empathy and understanding when it was needed. She has a nurturing side to her even though on the surface, she gave the impression that few people cross her.

Moseley went totally crazy while trying desperately to save her son.  She proved she was willing to sacrifice the team in her quest to show she had power over them.

She showed no remorse for her actions although to some degree she was thankful to the team for saving her son. Can't wait to see her demoted and cast out. I cannot stand her character. She was more concerned about her image than the humanity of her team.

I hope they resolve her situation quickly. I almost want to throw something at the screen whenever her character walks on stage.

My big disappointment...Harley. She had grace and poise and could relate to the team. Why they killed her off astounds me unless for some peculiar reason, she is resurrected. Perhaps maybe she needs to go to the Mother Ship where Gibbs resides. That show has felt flat since Abbie went away.

Bring Hetty back please.

Someone get a shepherd's hook for Moseley. I don't want to see her tettering on heels she can't walk on, thrust her bosom to the screen and place hands on hips. No offense. Some changes are good but the writers introduced something toxic in the pool with this character.

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1 hour ago, N. Abella said:

We all know Moseley is a great character to dislike. Granger was a company man but understood that you sometimes had to do the wrong thing for the right reason.  Moseley came in to supposedly disrupt a good group of agents because the relationships they had with one another was distracting to the mission.

In a life and death situation, you must rely on your good relationships to keep you safe. This band of agents kept their team safe because they cared about each other. Moseley seemed to sweep right pass that and on several occasions commented that her intent was to break them up. 

As a leader, she used intimidation, arrogance and a haranguing temperament to keep her people in line. She was so unlike Hetty who used finesse and persuasion. Although Hetty could be stern and authoritative, she displayed true empathy and understanding when it was needed. She has a nurturing side to her even though on the surface, she gave the impression that few people cross her.

Moseley went totally crazy while trying desperately to save her son.  She proved she was willing to sacrifice the team in her quest to show she had power over them.

She showed no remorse for her actions although to some degree she was thankful to the team for saving her son. Can't wait to see her demoted and cast out. I cannot stand her character. She was more concerned about her image than the humanity of her team.

I hope they resolve her situation quickly. I almost want to throw something at the screen whenever her character walks on stage.

My big disappointment...Harley. She had grace and poise and could relate to the team. Why they killed her off astounds me unless for some peculiar reason, she is resurrected. Perhaps maybe she needs to go to the Mother Ship where Gibbs resides. That show has felt flat since Abbie went away.

Bring Hetty back please.

Someone get a shepherd's hook for Moseley. I don't want to see her tettering on heels she can't walk on, thrust her bosom to the screen and place hands on hips. No offense. Some changes are good but the writers introduced something toxic in the pool with this character.

All of this!

Mosely and her pose drive me insane. And her character has no redeeming qualities.

It's interesting that LA is soo good and works so well when Mark Harmon dislikes it and stayed well away from it yet is heavily involved in the mothership and NOLA (which I have decided I cannot watch anymore at all).

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52 minutes ago, Kelda Feegle said:

It's interesting that LA is soo good and works so well when Mark Harmon dislikes it and stayed well away from it yet is heavily involved in the mothership and NOLA (which I have decided I cannot watch anymore at all).

imho? Los Angeles is the superior and best of the franchise. I'd actually prefer/am glad Harmon has stayed away from it. 

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4 minutes ago, Samantha84 said:

imho? Los Angeles is the superior and best of the franchise. I'd actually prefer/am glad Harmon has stayed away from it. 

I used to watch the mothership but stopped watching when Ziva was written off. I watch an episode here and there. I also tried to watch New Orleans. I found it very much like the original tone wise. I too prefer LA. They whole cast has great chemistry. Plus I feel they treat their women characters better than the other two shows. 

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3 hours ago, N. Abella said:

We all know Moseley is a great character to dislike. Granger was a company man but understood that you sometimes had to do the wrong thing for the right reason.  Moseley came in to supposedly disrupt a good group of agents because the relationships they had with one another was distracting to the mission.

In a life and death situation, you must rely on your good relationships to keep you safe. This band of agents kept their team safe because they cared about each other. Moseley seemed to sweep right pass that and on several occasions commented that her intent was to break them up. 

As a leader, she used intimidation, arrogance and a haranguing temperament to keep her people in line. She was so unlike Hetty who used finesse and persuasion. Although Hetty could be stern and authoritative, she displayed true empathy and understanding when it was needed. She has a nurturing side to her even though on the surface, she gave the impression that few people cross her.

Moseley went totally crazy while trying desperately to save her son.  She proved she was willing to sacrifice the team in her quest to show she had power over them.

She showed no remorse for her actions although to some degree she was thankful to the team for saving her son. Can't wait to see her demoted and cast out. I cannot stand her character. She was more concerned about her image than the humanity of her team.

I hope they resolve her situation quickly. I almost want to throw something at the screen whenever her character walks on stage.

My big disappointment...Harley. She had grace and poise and could relate to the team. Why they killed her off astounds me unless for some peculiar reason, she is resurrected. Perhaps maybe she needs to go to the Mother Ship where Gibbs resides. That show has felt flat since Abbie went away.

Bring Hetty back please.

Someone get a shepherd's hook for Moseley. I don't want to see her tettering on heels she can't walk on, thrust her bosom to the screen and place hands on hips. No offense. Some changes are good but the writers introduced something toxic in the pool with this character.

I couldn’t say it any better than this. 

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13 hours ago, anna0852 said:

I wonder what the working atmosphere is like on this set. We've seen lots of turnover on the other two shows in this universe and there's been lots of rumors swirling about the actual working conditions. But here, the cast has been remarkably stable for going on 10 years. All three female leads have remained past the length of the original contracts and have clearly reupped. And you can't tell me that Linda Hunt at least wouldn't have other projects to move onto. You never hear rumors about dissension on the set or creepy showrunners. And compared to the Mothership they have killed off far fewer characters. The only person out of the main title sequence that we have actually lost was due to the death of the actor. For a show going into their 10th season I think that's rather remarkable.

And the younger two female lead actresses have had babies, which the show has worked with.  I seriously don't think either the Mothership or NOLA would have been accomodating.  It may be nothing more than a coincidence, but Sasha Alexander officially quit because of the physical work load ("never been so tired in [her] life" is the quote, IIRC), and was pregnant by the end of the year.

1 hour ago, Kelda Feegle said:

All of this!

Mosely and her pose drive me insane. And her character has no redeeming qualities.

It's interesting that LA is soo good and works so well when Mark Harmon dislikes it and stayed well away from it yet is heavily involved in the mothership and NOLA (which I have decided I cannot watch anymore at all).

This, so much.  Harmon establishing some sort of "great wall of china" was a good thing for LA.   Mosely actually came in for a good reason, the Special Operations group pretty much killed everybody they ran into, without consequences.  Now, it turned out that while Mosely was the new sheriff cleaning up a gun-happy town, she was also using her position, her government resources, and the agents she professionally despised, for her own personal interests.

And yes, the high heels and the two-handed shooting just irk.  It isn't quite the Crucifix of Combat, but still bad enough.  

Holy crap, I just realized Mosely totally is the new sheriff come to clean up the town who isn't the hero, or even the anti-hero, but has all the fancy tricks.

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30 minutes ago, kassygreene said:

And the younger two female lead actresses have had babies, which the show has worked with.  I seriously don't think either the Mothership or NOLA would have been accomodating.  It may be nothing more than a coincidence, but Sasha Alexander officially quit because of the physical work load ("never been so tired in [her] life" is the quote, IIRC), and was pregnant by the end of the year.

Renee had a baby?

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1 hour ago, LittlePeas3 said:

That is my question too! 

That was never determined to be true as far as I know. People were speculating that she had gained weight and was hiding her abdomen in shots. Her sister told people to quit speculating on social media.  I think it’s been discussed in the season 9 thread. 

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They'll be consequences. Some of this was future story fodder. Just like Gibbs almost got smoked for killing the cartel guy that killed his wife any agent that killed someone in Mexico would be subject to the legitimate Mexican justice system along with cartel revenge. They'll probably talk their way out of it. Kensi and Deeks could be charged for killing the civilians as could Hannah for the hospital attack although that will probably be explained away. An internal affair investigation would probably do more than a Mexican investigation.

As pointed out the writers probably used Harley as a red shirt. Her career should do well with a NCIS show on the resume. Smart, competent, by the book and loyal-can't have that silly, these characters are supposed to flawed and have demons.

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10 hours ago, LittlePeas3 said:

And wouldn't Callen be in some kind of collar if he had a fractured vertebrae?  

I wondered about that so looked it up. Surprisingly, a person can still walk with a fractured vertebrae; it depends on which one, so he might not need to be in a collar. Who knew?

 

8 hours ago, Beatrice said:

One other thing about the Mosley storyline, the way Deeks so vehemently disagreed without her beating the prisoner etc to find a loved one, I recall him doing that on more than one occasion. That's just something that bugged we about last season. 

Agree about that. I find it somewhat hypocritical of him--although I like him--to condemn anyone for actions when he's resorted to similar things himself.  I think that was the result of it being a Military script. Military seems to love Deeks, Kensi, and Sam, but this is the first time that Military has actually had Callen do something positive to save the team. That was a nice surprise.

I liked the episode and thought Military did a good job of moving things along (although Turk is too convenient for my taste and being NCIS was a little much). The Densi scenes were strong--glad Kensi did the saving this time cuz it's a drag that she's always being saved (I wish the writers had let her take out Sullivan herself in S8). I do hope these two don't get in any more of these situations; the writers have put them in dangerous/critical conditions in every season since S4 (except S6), and it's starting to feel repetitious to me. I mean, do we really need another near death experience for them to know how they feel about each other? My favorite scene was the scene before Callen became unconscious cuz I loved that conversation. Callen and Sam don't get to shed the tears like Kensi and Deeks, so their scenes aren't as "dramatic," but I found this one really moving. It seemed as if Callen--for the first time--really believed he was dying. Compared to other tight spots--like on the sub--where Callen has usually been the one cracking jokes, he was completely serious here. During the silence, I wondered if he was thinking back on his life. I hope the writers actually show him going through recovery at least a little like they've done with the rest of the team, but I won't be surprised if they don't. The next few episodes will give a better clue about how the season will shape up. I'm hoping for the best.

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5 minutes ago, 123BP said:

I wondered about that so looked it up. Surprisingly, a person can still walk with a fractured vertebrae; it depends on which one, so he might not need to be in a collar. Who knew?

I was being a tad lazy, I was waiting for my paramedic husband to get home to ask him, you beat me to the prize :D  Thanks!  I am guessing his other injuries have limited his movement too, so that would help in some ways.  

 

On the Sam and Callen front, their scenes were just as raw and poignant as some of the Kensi/Deeks ones, which was so different to the usual quipping jokes etc.  I really enjoyed the majority of the first episode, let's hope it keeps going for the rest of the season. 

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19 hours ago, anna0852 said:

I wonder what the working atmosphere is like on this set. We've seen lots of turnover on the other two shows in this universe and there's been lots of rumors swirling about the actual working conditions. But here, the cast has been remarkably stable for going on 10 years. All three female leads have remained past the length of the original contracts and have clearly reupped. And you can't tell me that Linda Hunt at least wouldn't have other projects to move onto. You never hear rumors about dissension on the set or creepy showrunners. And compared to the Mothership they have killed off far fewer characters. The only person out of the main title sequence that we have actually lost was due to the death of the actor. For a show going into their 10th season I think that's rather remarkable.

 

Has as everybody forgotten poor Don from season 1? At least I think that was his name  he was Kensi’s partner who got kidnapped, was MIA for a few eps and was killed when the team tried to rescue him.

It’s possible though that he was only ever intended as a short run character  

 

7 hours ago, Beatrice said:

I used to watch the mothership but stopped watching when Ziva was written off. I watch an episode here and there. I also tried to watch New Orleans. I found it very much like the original tone wise. I too prefer LA. They whole cast has great chemistry. Plus I feel they treat their women characters better than the other two shows. 

I had to stop watching NCIS a few seasons before Ziva left because I loathed her so much. 

I picked it up again once she’d finally gone but stopped when I knew they were going to write Tony out. And thank goodness I spared myself that godawful exit for his character. Seriously, did the writers just mine some TIVA fanfic for ideas?

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4 hours ago, Ceindreadh said:

I picked it up again once she’d finally gone but stopped when I knew they were going to write Tony out. And thank goodness I spared myself that godawful exit for his character. Seriously, did the writers just mine some TIVA fanfic for ideas?

Tony's character HAD to be written out. Michael Weatherly had a nifty new offer and he was sick of playing the same character after over ten years, but that's for the Mothership threads....

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There will be fallout, that's why Esai Morales comes into the picture. Mosely won't get out of it, because Hidoko died during the unsanctioned mission. Love Rick Simon, ie Barlow, aka McRaney as interim head. This role kind of reminds me of Chegwidden with the dry sense of humor.

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I rewatched last night and was really struck by how voyuristic I felt watching those scenes in the church. The actors really hit the emotional tone!

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10 hours ago, 123BP said:

I wondered about that so looked it up. Surprisingly, a person can still walk with a fractured vertebrae; it depends on which one, so he might not need to be in a collar. Who knew?

 

Agree about that. I find it somewhat hypocritical of him--although I like him--to condemn anyone for actions when he's resorted to similar things himself.  I think that was the result of it being a Military script. Military seems to love Deeks, Kensi, and Sam, but this is the first time that Military has actually had Callen do something positive to save the team. That was a nice surprise.

I liked the episode and thought Military did a good job of moving things along (although Turk is too convenient for my taste and being NCIS was a little much). The Densi scenes were strong--glad Kensi did the saving this time cuz it's a drag that she's always being saved (I wish the writers had let her take out Sullivan herself in S8). I do hope these two don't get in any more of these situations; the writers have put them in dangerous/critical conditions in every season since S4 (except S6), and it's starting to feel repetitious to me. I mean, do we really need another near death experience for them to know how they feel about each other? My favorite scene was the scene before Callen became unconscious cuz I loved that conversation. Callen and Sam don't get to shed the tears like Kensi and Deeks, so their scenes aren't as "dramatic," but I found this one really moving. It seemed as if Callen--for the first time--really believed he was dying. Compared to other tight spots--like on the sub--where Callen has usually been the one cracking jokes, he was completely serious here. During the silence, I wondered if he was thinking back on his life. I hope the writers actually show him going through recovery at least a little like they've done with the rest of the team, but I won't be surprised if they don't. The next few episodes will give a better clue about how the season will shape up. I'm hoping for the best.

I felt the episode was really well balanced between action and emotional scenes. I'm also glad they let Kensi saved the day so to speak. They waste her sometimes in my opinion. 

The episode worked for me because the two pairings Callen/Sam and Kensi/Deeks. Hoping that continues for the rest of the season. 

48 minutes ago, Samantha84 said:

BTW: Renee didn't have a child

That's awkward for those thinking she had a baby. I did think she might have last season. 

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21 hours ago, LittlePeas3 said:

ECO's hair looks atrocious, I wonder what he  would look like with a decent hair cut?

All nostrils.  Seriously.  Check out some of his other past roles.  He's usually always got longer hair, since he's got the kind of face that really needs a bit of a mop to balance it out, but when his hair is shorter in other roles and those nostrils really stand out.  Admittedly, it has been waaaay too shaggy for a while now.  I think it needs to be tamed.

 

I'm liking the Admiral.  We can keep McRaney. 

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2 hours ago, HurricaneVal said:

All nostrils.  Seriously.  Check out some of his other past roles.  He's usually always got longer hair, since he's got the kind of face that really needs a bit of a mop to balance it out, but when his hair is shorter in other roles and those nostrils really stand out.  Admittedly, it has been waaaay too shaggy for a while now.  I think it needs to be tamed.

I thought I was only one who noticed this. ECO has enormous nostrils (breathing must be great). He's really not "handsome" (his brother is, though), but he has a sense humor. Wish he'd trim his hair; it really looks dirty.

Liked it, but a little too heavy on the Densi for me (Military seems to be Densi fangirling in his latest stories). The main story was the team escaping, and the Densi stuff during their escape got to be a little much. I mean, it's hard to picture any other seasoned federal agent/LAPD detective talking sexy sap while on the run from the Mexican army and cartel. I'd expect them to be all business, but it's Densi. lol These two have been going through these situations for years just so they can AGAIN say how much they love each other. It's getting old, writers. The only thing different this time was Kensi saving Deeks. (The "save Kensi again" storylines are like something out of the 1950s.) Weird that Callen's condition--seeing that he's the most seriously injured--was just kinda tossed out there at the end. Doesn't seem like they'll show any recovery for him (like always), but we'll see next week. And where was Hetty? If Mosley was at the hospital, I sure as hell expected to see Hetty there with her team. That made no sense to me. Hope the Densi "problem" is solved so the writers can focus on other things besides the wedding. Like somebody said about NCIS, let's not make episodes from fan fic stories.

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3 hours ago, HurricaneVal said:

All nostrils.  Seriously.  Check out some of his other past roles.  He's usually always got longer hair, since he's got the kind of face that really needs a bit of a mop to balance it out, but when his hair is shorter in other roles and those nostrils really stand out.  Admittedly, it has been waaaay too shaggy for a while now.  I think it needs to be tamed.

He didn't look that bad when he first joined the cast, can't we go back to that?  

 

This isn't too bad either, still hides the nostril issue, but I have a feeling he is hiding a receding hairline, with it so floppy, in some scenes it shows.  

https://www.agefotostock.com/age/en/Stock-Images/Rights-Managed/MAR-W565297

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