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23 hours ago, TheView said:

Abby's fast speech patterns make her sound like a chicken. I almost expect her to start breaking out in feathers

She's probably required to go to some class 2-3 times a week.  Perhaps it's taught by Motormouth Meghan.

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1 hour ago, HaaCHOO said:

She's probably required to go to some class 2-3 times a week.  Perhaps it's taught by Motormouth Meghan.

There must be some sort of Filibustering 101 classes where people like Abby, Missy, Tomi Lahren, Ann Coulter, etc. learn to talk non-stop so that nobody else can get a word in.

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They gave her some quote to read in today's show in the 1st or 2nd segment (to make her feel like she is actually a part of the show and contributing, how sweet) and MY GOD, WOMAN, Slow the eff down! 

I don't think she always spoke this crazy fast, I think she has just adapted to her surroundings and talks really, really, really fast so that she can finish speaking before her best friend at the other end of table chimes in with her worthless 2 cents.

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16 hours ago, Cementhead said:

I don't think she always spoke this crazy fast, I think she has just adapted to her surroundings and talks really, really, really fast so that she can finish speaking before her best friend at the other end of table chimes in with her worthless 2 cents.

Maybe she was told to sign up for elocution lessons and then learned they were electrocution instructions.   OUCH!  OUCH!  OUCH!

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I'll miss Abby. As far as Republican co-hosts go, I thought she was a great deal like Paula, except a little more... Vapid. But both are like Joy in that they can disagree and still remain well-mannered and friendly with everyone.

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Abby reminded me of Paula too. Both nice women who tried to get their point across. Abby is doing what's right for her by leaving.

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I'll give Abby credit for this: she's leaving to be a (the?) senior adviser for her dad's campaign. For all her talk about loving politics and being in politics "all her life", you know Meghan would NEVER truly work on a political campaign on a professional level; that would require her to do more than just talk on a TV show, write a blog, or appear at a campaign rally, and clearly that's about all she's interested in doing. The actual day to day grunt work that campaigns require of people, along with the brutal hours (they aren't 9 to 5 jobs, I'll tell you that much!)? Never. She'd have to miss Real Housewives that way! THE HORROR.

Also, if the rumors are true and Abby was truly at her wits end with Meghan, then I'm looking forward to seeing how many times they check her from here on out. I'm sorry for the others who are left with her, but I love that the idea that Abby was her only ally left seems to be out the window, and now she's jumped ship! HA! 😄 

 

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Also, I seriously doubt that Abby would give her father's campaign a reason to sideline her like Meghan was during her father's 2008 campaign. 

 

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40 minutes ago, UYI said:

I'll give Abby credit for this: she's leaving to be a (the?) senior adviser for her dad's campaign. For all her talk about loving politics and being in politics "all her life", you know Meghan would NEVER truly work on a political campaign on a professional level; that would require her to do more than just talk on a TV show, write a blog, or appear at a campaign rally, and clearly that's about all she's interested in doing. The actual day to day grunt work that campaigns require of people, along with the brutal hours (they aren't 9 to 5 jobs, I'll tell you that much!)? Never. She'd have to miss Real Housewives that way! THE HORROR.

Also, if the rumors are true and Abby was truly at her wits end with Meghan, then I'm looking forward to seeing how many times they check her from here on out. I'm sorry for the others who are left with her, but I love that the idea that Abby was her only ally left seems to be out the window, and now she's jumped ship! HA! 😄 

 

I actually think that their friendship may survive because Abby has left the show.. Some people get along better when they are not in each other's faces.  Megan's nastiness and immaturity has probably strained their friendship. I get the impression that Abby really enjoyed being on the show with the other ladies. Whoopie has never lost her temper with her.  She is very protective of her. The same with Joy.  Abby has a pleasant demeanor and I have always appreciated the fact that she walked away from her religion because of their stance against the LGBTQ community. 

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As much as I criticized her naivety, in the weeks leading up to this she made some decent points and finally stood up to Meghan. I wonder if her boost in confidence came from knowing she wouldn’t be on the show much longer. 

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This is interesting.  It details a fight that Abby and MeAgain had when MeAgain told Abby she was being insensitive by always talking about her kids and kid topics on air.

I did notice that when MeAgain was saying her nice things about Abby and that they were friends etc., that her upper lip got twitchy the way it does whenever she is on the defensive/emotional.  I wondered about that and this would explain it, if she realizes she is part of the reason Abby is leaving.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/television/abby-huntsman-leaves-the-view-amid-toxic-culture-at-show-and-strained-relationship-with-meghan-mccain/ar-BBYVcWE

 

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Thanks for posting the article, bannana.  There's so much in there.  It confirms what we all feared - Meghan's behavior has driven away a second host.  Nobody believes the "toxic work environment" is due to Whoopie, Joy, or Sunny.  Knowing Abby discussed said environment with an ABC executive as recently as last week makes me think that if it was otherwise, she actually might not be leaving.  She could still have done a lot from New York to help her fathers campaign.

I wonder if Meghan thought Abby had complete control over the hot topics that involved children, or if she just thought Abby shouldn't discuss her own kids when the subject of children came up?  If there are things that Meghan can't handle discussing, that's a good reason to step down.  But apparently she thought Abby should be the one to accommodate Meghan's feeling's and act as if she is childless. 

The article says that last summer Meghan did seriously considered leaving the show.  I'd be shocked if she decided on her own to leave.  She didn't particularly want the job in the first place, but since she took it because her father thought she should, I imagine she would feel like she was betraying him (and separating herself from him, too, which she's obviously not ready to do) if she quit.  And you know what's a shame?  Not even knowing Senator McCain, I am certain that he would not want her staying in a job where she's so unhappy.   

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47 minutes ago, lusinia said:

 

I wonder if Meghan thought Abby had complete control over the hot topics that involved children, or if she just thought Abby shouldn't discuss her own kids when the subject of children came up?  If there are things that Meghan can't handle discussing, that's a good reason to step down.  But apparently she thought Abby should be the one to accommodate Meghan's feeling's and act as if she is childless. 

 

I find this to be insane. Everyone on the panel has children except for Meghan (Anna) , not just Abby. Her's are just the youngest. Why can't she discuss them? Is it not insensitive when Whoopi, Joy, or Sunny mention their children.

I can see why Abby ran. Meghan only wants the View to discuss topics that she can participate in...um okay. She can still participate, even if she doesn't have children.

I doubt Abby and Meghan will have the same sort of friendship. 

 

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46 minutes ago, Miss Slay said:

I find this to be insane. Everyone on the panel has children except for Meghan (Anna) , not just Abby. Her's are just the youngest. Why can't she discuss them? Is it not insensitive when Whoopi, Joy, or Sunny mention their children.

And the View is watched mainly by women who are at home during the day, so children would be an obvious choice of topics.  Me-gun should seek out a show for self-described political "pundints" (sic), if they'll have her.

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9 hours ago, deirdra said:

Me-gun should seek out a show for self-described political "pundints" (sic), if they'll have her.

They won't have her.  She offers nothing other than her last name. And with time that won't even be anything to offer.

At least Abby has a degree in political science and communications. The jobs she has had corresponded with her education. Meghan has a degree in art history. As far as I know she has never worked in a gallery or museum.

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Most of the hosts on this show were mothers who talked about their children. Doesn't Meghan realize a show hosted by women will have children as part of the topics? I've had experience with infertility. Real tough chicks soldier through and don't whine. 

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7 hours ago, babyhouseman said:

Most of the hosts on this show were mothers who talked about their children. Doesn't Meghan realize a show hosted by women will have children as part of the topics? I've had experience with infertility. Real tough chicks soldier through and don't whine. 

And, as far as we know, she is not even dealing with infertility.  She admitted that the pregnancy was a surprise, and there was a miscarriage.  Same thing happened to me, around the same age as Me-Again.  Yes it was devastating, very much so, and it is a difficult thing to go through.  It doesn't mean that you cannot have joy for mothers and children.  Years later my mother told me she had suffered several miscarriages (but had four kids).  This is what women go through, but you don't begrudge other women their joy and happiness. 

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6 hours ago, bannana said:

And, as far as we know, she is not even dealing with infertility.  She admitted that the pregnancy was a surprise, and there was a miscarriage.  Same thing happened to me, around the same age as Me-Again.  Yes it was devastating, very much so, and it is a difficult thing to go through.  It doesn't mean that you cannot have joy for mothers and children.  Years later my mother told me she had suffered several miscarriages (but had four kids).  This is what women go through, but you don't begrudge other women their joy and happiness. 

So true. 

I think Nutmeg used her miscarriage as leverage with the PTB regarding Abby--Which is disgusting to me.

However, I surmise that Me-again's impetus for booting Abby out was that Abby didn't play her lapdog/pitbull role very well. 

Megaphone expected Abby to be an ally who would support Me-only's views AND be as angry or disgruntled and entitled as the Snowflake is.

When Abby turned out to be decent, friendly with other hosts!!!!, genuinely close to her siblings and dad AND mom, family-oriented with young kids,  sweet, intelligent at times--albeit rarely--and too quiet, etc., Nutmeg was pissed.

I mean, Abby was no Erica Jaynes( sp).  Lolololololol.  When your hero is someone like a slutty RH, what more is there to say? Yeesh. Yuck.

To sum up, I believe, in the end, Meh-gun was mostly jealous that Abby got along and was well- liked by hosts and staff at The View. 

MeMeMe is no lone wolf. 

 

 

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I agree with all of you. I think Meghan wants to be liked. She wants to be seen as John McCain’s brilliant, beautiful daughter who’s been in politics all her life. But she’s just not very nice to people. Abby is, so the other women on the show all like her, and the audience likes her better too. I also never thought that Abby was the type of woman whose whole identity is motherhood. We’ve all known women like that, everything goes back to they’re busy cause of the kids, they’re tired because of the kids, their body changed after the kids, etc. 

I had a traumatic childhood that affected me for many years. I’m only a bit younger than Meghan. I love kids but may or may not ever have them. I am still nice to all the folks who have kids, never complain about the kid talk, don’t care if I’m not the center of attention as the expecting mother. Meghan doesn’t seem the type to be happy for another woman, not even someone she calls a friend. 

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15 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

I agree with all of you. I think Meghan wants to be liked. She wants to be seen as John McCain’s brilliant, beautiful daughter who’s been in politics all her life. But she’s just not very nice to people. Abby is, so the other women on the show all like her, and the audience likes her better too.

Abby only brought up her dad when relevant to the conversation. In other words she was like most people.  Her identity isn't based on her family.   The other daughter at the table is narcissistic enough to think Abby would be like her. I think it genuinely shocked Meghan that Abby didn't just blindly follow her in being an obnoxious know it all who in reality knows very little.  I do wonder if Meghan was purposefully trying to drive Abby off the show or if she was just throwing hissy fits because she wasn't getting what she wanted (a devoted service co host).

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55 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

I agree with all of you. I think Meghan wants to be liked. She wants to be seen as John McCain’s brilliant, beautiful daughter who’s been in politics all her life. But she’s just not very nice to people. Abby is, so the other women on the show all like her, and the audience likes her better too. I also never thought that Abby was the type of woman whose whole identity is motherhood. We’ve all known women like that, everything goes back to they’re busy cause of the kids, they’re tired because of the kids, their body changed after the kids, etc. 

I had a traumatic childhood that affected me for many years. I’m only a bit younger than Meghan. I love kids but may or may not ever have them. I am still nice to all the folks who have kids, never complain about the kid talk, don’t care if I’m not the center of attention as the expecting mother. Meghan doesn’t seem the type to be happy for another woman, not even someone she calls a friend. 

Not to mention, Abby's twins were in the NICU, that must have been terrifying for Abby and her family.  Abby spoke about meeting other parents in her position and she had nothing but good things to say about the nursing staff at the hospital who were there for her and all of the other mothers there.  You would think that somebody  like Nutmeg who claims to be pro-life would be celebrating that her friend's babies were well enough to get out of the NICU and go home. Plus, Abby's kids are all under 3, it makes sense that she would talk about her kids.  

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8 hours ago, bannana said:

And, as far as we know, she is not even dealing with infertility.  She admitted that the pregnancy was a surprise, and there was a miscarriage.  Same thing happened to me, around the same age as Me-Again.  Yes it was devastating, very much so, and it is a difficult thing to go through.  It doesn't mean that you cannot have joy for mothers and children.  Years later my mother told me she had suffered several miscarriages (but had four kids).  This is what women go through, but you don't begrudge other women their joy and happiness. 

Bannana, I am so sorry for your loss.   And even after going through that, you still have joy in your heart for other women and their children, which is something dreadful MM is totally incapable of.   You sound like a very strong and loving person 💙

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Abby posted this link to her Instagram on Twitter. It has pics of her with various crew members, and a group shot of the co-hosts.  No pic of her and her bestie alone together.

 

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On 1/13/2020 at 5:08 PM, atlantaloves said:

I think Mee-again ran her off...she said enough already, I would rather work 24 hours a day.

IIRC, Abby and MeAgain (the nepotism twins) gave a few interviews not too long ago (I think People mag one of them) where they were discussing plans to do a podcast together. I have a strong feeling that won't be happening now. MeAgain is rude, a selfish b*tch. While Abby does not fit that description, I do think she fits into the rich, elitist, entitled group. Because of her family's grand wealth and her dad being a politician, I feel she got breaks in the media on the national stage, (The View and Fox News) that she would not have gotten if she came from a middle class family.  She also struck me as fake. I have read comments that when she was on Fox news, she was very pro Trump. And bashed liberals.  She went on The View and she did a 100% flip flop. I think she is a chameleon who will say whatever she thinks her audience wants to hear. Politics is a nasty and dishonest business. It will be interesting to see how she deals with it. 

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7 minutes ago, BeeBop88 said:

IIRC, Abby and MeAgain gave a few interviews not too long ago (I think People mag one of them) where they were discussing plans to do a podcast together. I have a strong feeling that won't be happening now. MeAgain is rude, a selfish b*tch. While Abby does not fit that description, I do think she fits into the rich, elitist, entitled group. Because of her family's grand wealth and he dad being a politician, I feel she got breaks in the media on the national stage, (The View and Fox News) that she would not have gotten if she came from a middle class family.  She also struck me as fake. I have read comments that when she was on Fox news, she was very pro Trump. And bashed liberals.  She went on The View and she did a 100% flip flop. I think she is a chameleon who will say whatever she thinks her audience wants to hear. Politics is a nasty and dishonest business. It will be interesting to see how she deals with it. 

I agree about her being a chameleon. Remember Fox News does not like dissent in their ranks. They are all supposed to follow a script. If they do allow another point of view, the person is often mocked controlled and unable to express themselves by the host of the show.  Abby probably felt she had to be a certain way to keep her job.  I am surprised she never dyed her hair blonde as a condition to work over there.

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2 minutes ago, Pearson80 said:

I agree about her being a chameleon. Remember Fox News does not like dissent in their ranks. They are all supposed to follow a script. If they do allow another point of view, the person is often mocked controlled and unable to express themselves by the host of the show.  Abby probably felt she had to be a certain way to keep her job.  I am surprised she never dyed her hair blonde as a condition to work over there.

Yes, I have heard that too.  Fox does not like dissent. I think there is no such thing as an unbiased press.  And it didn't start with Trump (although it became more obvious), the press has been biased for years. On both sides. I am an independent (don't trust democrats or republicans), so I am more aware what the media says and does not say. The fact where certain politicians won't go on Fox because the politician is liberal/socialist or won't go on CNN/MSNBC because the politician is conservative is proof.

But Abby just never clicked with me. Just kind of a seat warmer.  At times she would say something one day, the next totally contradict herself or walk back her comment. Very wishy washy. I think she made the right decision to leave. I think she will feel more at home running her Dad's campaign, where she won't feel threatened (meaning MeAgain.)

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1 hour ago, BeeBop88 said:

Yes, I have heard that too.  Fox does not like dissent. I think there is no such thing as an unbiased press.  And it didn't start with Trump (although it became more obvious), the press has been biased for years. On both sides. I am an independent (don't trust democrats or republicans), so I am more aware what the media says and does not say. The fact where certain politicians won't go on Fox because the politician is liberal/socialist or won't go on CNN/MSNBC because the politician is conservative is proof.

 

It is not as simple as that. The news is no longer there to inform us but to entertain us.  I could say more but it would be off-topic.

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