S13.E07 She Said/She Said

[Taralightner]

Hijinks ensue when Vicki decides to celebrate her birthday with a ladies' golf outing; Tamra and Eddie double date with Emily and her husband; a rumor about Emily's marriage sparks an unexpected confrontation between Tamra and Shannon

 

Edited August 27, 2018 by Taralightner

[Taralightner]

Well, we know that Vicki’s voice will travel farther than her tee shots. She’s too loud for a golf course. 

[SuprSuprElevated]

52 minutes ago, Taralightner said:

Well, we know that Vicki’s voice will travel farther than her tee shots. She’s too loud for a golf course. 

Metallica concert.

[ivygirl]

So far Scott Shane is making Diko look better and better. 

Edited August 28, 2018 by ivygirl
Scott, Shane, Steve, whatever, oops

[dosodog]

Shannon.  I also hate to exercise (except water aerobics-love that!).

May I suggest dancing?  Get yourself some indoor disco lights, an Alexa to be your unlimited DJ and shake, shake, shake your booty. 

And young personal trainer?  Welcome to the world of 50+ women.  We see you having a mental dialogue about whether you're getting paid enough to train Shannon.....

[ivygirl]

Gina stole Diko’s Dave Gahan leather jacket.

 

...And what’s up with Tamra and her mom acting like David is all pobrecito (poor little guy)? How do they know the circumstances of that marriage? 

Edited August 28, 2018 by ivygirl

[nexxie]

13 hours ago, Taralightner said:

Well, we know that Vicki’s voice will travel farther than her tee shots. She’s too loud for a golf course. 

To me she doesn’t seem like somebody in love - more like somebody who can’t stand to be single.

Edit: That seems pretty random but I was thinking that Steve gave her the clubs, lol

Edited August 28, 2018 by nexxie

[Fiero425]

2 hours ago, nexxie said:

To me she doesn’t seem like somebody in love - more like somebody who can’t stand to be single.

I think she's admitted as much; many do! Shannon needs someone since she wasn't aware you need to pay for your water! Emily's husband is still getting the HW treatment; spoken about what he did incessantly and just won't let it DIE! Gina really needs to move on! She has enough problems being a single mother! ;-(

Edited August 28, 2018 by Fiero425

[chenoa333]

Haven't seen this episode yet. Although I will watch next week, it already sounds boring and vapid. 

Fucking Bravo/Andy Cohen better step up their game soon or this franchise is going to sink faster than Jimmy Hoffa. 

[Pickles]

Shannon not knowing you had to pay for water. Omg. Emily's golf outfit looked too tight and too skimpy.

[nexxie]

Looks like Tamra has chosen her season frenemy.

[Thumper]

So, most of them had never been golfing?  And they did 18 holes????  Ugh.  Wouldn't have been fun for me.  (Last time I golfed was to get a 1/2  credit in college PE !  Golfing in WI in October wearing gloves because it was so cold.  lol). Felt bad for the guy who was their handler/babysitter.

[chenoa333]

4 minutes ago, nexxie said:

Looks like Tamra has chosen her season frenemy.

Tamra is a one trick pony. She'll hate whomever she needs to hate to get that Bravo paycheck. Without it, she's f'd. And not in the way she'd like to be f'd.

Edited August 28, 2018 by chenoa333

[SuprSuprElevated]

3 minutes ago, Pickles said:

Shannon not knowing you had to pay for water. Omg. Emily's golf outfit looked too tight and too skimpy.

Yeah, she was confused.  Thought it was stripper golf.

1 minute ago, Thumper said:

So, most of them had never been golfing?  And they did 18 holes????  Ugh.  Wouldn't have been fun for me.  (Last time I golfed was to get a 1/2  credit in college PE !  Golfing in WI in October wearing gloves because it was so cold.  lol). Felt bad for the guy who was their handler/babysitter.

I'd bet they didn't get past the 6th.

[nexxie]

8 minutes ago, chenoa333 said:

Tamra is a one trick pony. She'll hate whomever she needs to hate to get that Bravo paycheck. Without it, she's f'd. And not in the way she'd like to be f'd.

 

Really! She’s either pissed because Shannon doesn’t ask about Eddie - or she’s just using that as an excuse to target Shannon.

Edited August 28, 2018 by nexxie

[wait.what]

Tamra just jealous cause Shannon is getting $22,000.00 a month. That really seemed to piss Tamra off!

also, did Tamra say, “I only have two holes!”  

Umm, Tamra, did you have a surgery that we don’t know about? 

[chenoa333]

3 minutes ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

Yeah, she was confused.  Thought it was stripper golf.

I'd bet they didn't get past the 6th.

That's because all of them drank a fifth.

[RHJunkie]

I can see why Tamra would be frustrated with Shannon not showing much concern with what’s going on in her life when she knows of how much Tamra is going through as well. And it must be additionally frustrating considering she already pointed out ot Shannon that she was disappointed that Shannon hadn’t even bothered to check in to see how Eddie is doing. While it can be draining to always hear someone else’s problems and while I do think Tamra today is a better version of herself than she was years ago on this show, she is someone who still enjoys to gossip. A part of me thinks that she puts up with a lot of the drama because it’s great inside scoop for her. While I don’t think she’s holding on to all this stuff with the intent to go after Shannon in the future, I do think that Tamra will not respect any of those confidences at any point that she and Shannon may truly sour on one another.

Shannon needs to get a clue that friendship is a two-way street. No one will deny she’s going through something shitty but it doesn’t take much thought or consideration to ask your friends how they’re doing in their life as well. Also, how in the hell have you gone this far in life and not realize that you have to pay for water???? WTF.

Clearly the show edited Emily and Gina’s conversation very conveniently. We didn’t see Gina use the word abusive. But we also didn’t see her tell Emily that Shannon admitted that it’s hard not to project her own shit because of her experiences so we can’t see who is being completely honest. I suspect that Gina is telling the truth but Emily may have been so offended by the notion of Shannon inferring her marriage to be like her abusive marriage to David that she didn’t hear past anything that would have rationalized why Shannon would have made such a comment so when she spoke with Kelly and Kelly said ‘yes’ but didn’t clarify that the word ‘abusive’ wasn’t actually used. 

Tamra’s reaction to Shannon was purely out of other frustrations with Shannon and not because of anything to do with Emily. She kept harping on Shannon about a comment that may have inferred that Shane was like David while completely ignoring that that Shannon did admit to projecting and she addressed that with Emily. 

[Fiero425]

So we go from Tamra going off on Shannon over some BS "telephone" nonsense over Shane and being compared to David to the preview having Tamra instigating between Vicki and Steve about getting married! This woman just can't help herself! She'll be 80 and still need to be moving the drama along! ;-(

[nexxie]

Did Kelly call Shane a little bitch in the preview? Can’t wait!

[ivygirl]

Well, THAT all escalated quickly.

I see that we are back into Shrieking Harpy Tamraland, and next we’ll be back to Hollerin’ Kelly. I don’t know if I can take this.

[Bronzedog]

I don’t know why anyone would be afraid of Shane.  Other than Tamra, they’re all bigger than that tiny twerp.

Thought it was funny when Gina and Emily were leaving to have their talk and Gina said something like, “Let’s go aggressively.”

Edited August 28, 2018 by Bronzedog

[JD5166]

What.the.fuck.is.kelly.wearing.to feed.the.homeless? Oh my GOD!!!!!!

Also, really Aldi? There is a delicious Chardonnay for 6.99 there, tho! 

[JAYJAY1979]

Tamra is upset Shannon isn't going to her for fitness advice, or using Cut Fitness, which translate into less camera time/advertising for her gym.  First of all, the fact she asked why Shannon doesn't trust her is hilarious for numerous reasons, but forgetting that the bride of Satan was baptized for a moment... I recall a few seasons back where Tamra was making fun of the way Shannon was working out.  Now why would she go to her after seeing that?   I know I wouldn't.  

The golf outing looked fun, and Kelly did look like she knew what she was doing.  

Tamra vs Shannon... hmmmm.

Emily being offended people had thoughts on her marriage makes me wonder if she's ever watched the show, and hung with Tamra outside of a client/party planner relationship.

Edited August 28, 2018 by JAYJAY1979

[Thumper]

4 minutes ago, JD5166 said:

What.the.fuck.is.kelly.wearing.to feed.the.homeless? Oh my GOD!!!!!!

Also, really Aldi? There is a delicious Chardonnay for 6.99 there, tho! 

Chardonnay at Aldi???  Sadly, not in MN -- not allowed.

I did like Kelly taking her daughter to feed the homeless.  Good exposure for a young person.

[JD5166]

6 minutes ago, Thumper said:

Chardonnay at Aldi???  Sadly, not in MN -- not allowed.

I did like Kelly taking her daughter to feed the homeless.  Good exposure for a young person.

I appreciate the lesson, but for heavens sake....she was dressed like, well.....a homeless person. I just found it odd., and maybe a little insulting! That soup kitchen looked pretty fancy too!! 

I was afraid of the aldi chard, but the alcohol content was 13.5% alcohol which usually means I won’t want to die the next day. 

[Thumper]

Just now, JD5166 said:

I appreciate the lesson, but for heavens sake....she was dressed like, well.....a homeless person. I just found it odd., and maybe a little insulting! That soup kitchen looked pretty fancy too!! 

I was afraid of the aldi chard, but the alcohol content was 13.5% alcohol which usually means I won’t want to die the next day. 

Huh.  I didn't notice what she was wearing.  Maybe she didn't want to appear too "to the manor born" as she served?

[rustyspigot]

Did Gina come back from performing as Sandy in Grease for the clothing store scene?

"I'm a lawyer" Emily has the worst transitions. Kelly makes a putt. Emily: OK Let's talk about what Shannon said

Edited August 28, 2018 by rustyspigot

[LadyK]

13 hours ago, Taralightner said:

Hijinks ensue when Vicki decides to celebrate her birthday with a ladies' golf outing; Tamra and Eddie double date with Emily and her husband; a rumor about Emily's marriage sparks an unexpected confrontation between Tamra and Shannon

 

 

Hi-jinks?  We are seven episodes in and I can hardly be bothered to tune in, much less record this show. After the disastrous last three seasons, I feel like the PTB tuned into these boards and determined, “You want fun and slapstick of seasons past?  Fine, we will give you that, but it WILL include the cancer scammer”.

I have never been a fan of Kelly; coarse and vulgar, but I have to admire her unrelenting loyalty to the cancer scammer for soooo long, and I was impressed with her soup kitchen episode with Jolie.   I have never liked Tamra, her Naked Wasted manipulations were beyond the pale. She and the cancer scammer were two peas in a pod; the lowest of the low.  And with only the dregs from which to choose, I felt that Kelly, Tamra, and shallow, selfish Shannon, made a relatively decent trio…. They were fun together, with a silly good-natured attitude that helped bring us out of the horrible cancer season{s}.

Seven episodes in though?  I have been loyal to OC since watching it from day one, but I am not drinking the kool-aid of the redeemed cancer scammer… whoop whoop SPLAT!  I may well have to defect to Dallas.  Splashy high end parties, house porn, drama, all without the rat scat that OC wants to sweep under the rug.   And yes, I realize that Naked Wasted was horrible, but not nearly as deplorable as, not just the cancer scam, but the attempts afterwards to PROFIT from same.

[bosawks]

This episode made my long for it to be over so Southern Charm Savannah could start.

That’s not good.

Edited August 28, 2018 by bosawks

[Jextella]

I don't follow social media.  Anyone following along to know who is still friends after the taping ended?

I saw Tamra and Shannon on WWHL a few weeks ago, and it appears they are still friends.  Kelly was also on and seemed upset with Vicki about Vicki not telling her about the dates she lined up for her ex...but it seemed a bit deeper.

I also saw Emily and she didn't seem to have any issues (Andy seemed bored by her).

Edited August 28, 2018 by Jextella

[Fiero425]

1 hour ago, Jextella said:

I don't follow social media.  Anyone following along to know who is still friends after the taping ended?

I saw Tamra and Vicki on WWHL a few weeks ago, and it appears they are still friends.  Kelly was also on and seemed upset with Vicki about Vicki not telling her about the dates she lined up for her ex...but it seemed a bit deeper.

I also saw Emily and she didn't seem to have any issues (Andy seemed bored by her).

If recently, those are kinda old episodes! Andy's on Hiatus, probably sucking up to the Hampton crowd he lives among! ;-)

Edited August 28, 2018 by Fiero425

[Fiero425]

40 minutes ago, nexxie said:

Did Kelly call Shane a little bitch in the preview? Can’t wait!

She's such an out of control POS! I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt, but this BS about "a man shouldn't talk to a woman like that" is ridiculous! So she can say anything and just walk away! She's trash and not too bright to keep showing this side of herself again and again! ;-)

[Bronzedog]

I think I’ll like Gina if we can see enough of her without her kids.  Emily not so much.

[biakbiak]

34 minutes ago, Fiero425 said:

If recently, those are kinda old episodes! Andy's in Hiatus, probably sucking up to the Hampton crowd he lives among! ;-)

He’s in Italy and Greece.

[TexasGal]

1 hour ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

Yeah, she was confused.  Thought it was stripper golf.

I'd bet they didn't get past the 6th.

I was going to say she was dressed to play tennis, but I like your answer better!

1 hour ago, JAYJAY1979 said:

Tamra is upset Shannon is going to her for fitness advice, or using Cut Fitness, which translate into less camera time/advertising for her gym.  First of all, the fact she asked why Shannon doesn't trust her is hilarious for numerous reasons, but forgetting that the bride of Satan was baptized for a moment... I recall a few seasons back where Tamra was making fun of the way Shannon was working out.  Now why would she go to her after seeing that?   I know I wouldn't.  

Yep.  She’s all about the hustle, I’ll give her credit for that, but I don’t blame Shannon for not agreeing to use Tamra’s gym or one of their trainers.  EVERY session would be filmed and I’m sure Shannon is not down for that.

There better still be cake. We were promised cake.

[Jel]

Tamra is incapable of having two besties at once. Vicki's back in, now Shannon is on her way out.

I am no fan of Tamra's. Never have been, can't imagine I ever would be, but I thought it was telling that she said Shannon calls her to discuss her (Shan's) problems, and never even bothers to ask about Eddie.  I don't know how one could be more self-absorbed than that. Shannon is very high maintenance.

[Bronzedog]

Shannon has always been high maintenance but Tamra needed her to film, so, Tamra was fine with it.  Vicki’s back.  Now Vicki doesn’t need Kelly and Tamra doesn’t need Shannon.

Eddie’s off his medication and drinking martinis.  Sigh.

Emily, when you have to explain her husband is dry and sarcastic but he’s funny.  He’s not.

 I think Shannon’s going to be pissed when she sees Tamra’s mother kind of siding with David and Tamra agreeing.

Next week looks promising.

Edited August 28, 2018 by Bronzedog

[MinorL]

Tamra’s so cold. When she was saying all that stuff about “when you have a husband you have a good relationship with,” etc, it was a total dig at Shannon. It would probably be easier to just tell Shannon that she wishes Shannon would ask about Eddie or come to her for training than being a passive aggressive asshole. 

[Marley]

I really like Kelly this season and I can’t wait till next week when she calls Shane a little bitch. He is a total douche bag. I have disliked him in every scene he’s been in. Emily tries saying he’s witty and sarcastic but he’s not. He’s not funny he’s just a fucking dick. Kelly cracks me up.

Vicki and her whole prim and proper act is a joke. What is wrong with Steve that he’s with someone like Vicki. 

Tamra and her mom feeling so bad for poor David being screwed? Get the fuck out of here. The guy makes big bucks and he controlled the finances for 20 years. Shannon was a stay at home Mom who took care of the household. She’s supposed to just get thrown out on her ass because he’s a dick and ruins their marriage. Shannon probably supported his career for years. The 2 trailer trash bitches can get a grip lol.

I do agree tho that it’s pretty bad Shannon is not asking about Eddie. It’s probably because he’s all buddy buddy with douchebag David but still she should support her friend. On the other hand Tamra probably barely supports him since it’s been all about her since she broke her foot lol.

[UsernameFatigue]

2 hours ago, ivygirl said:

So far Scott is making Diko look better and better. 

Who is Scott?

The highlight of the episode for me was Gina's back swing almost giving Tamra a concussion to go with her broken foot. And one would think that hobbling around a golf course in a boot would be the last thing one should be doing if one is trying to heal a broken foot, and not fall and reinjure it. 

I still like Shane better than either Gina or Emily. But it is a pretty low bar. I found it interesting that he said that he asked several times for the ladies to quieten down - seems like they left that part out. But as someone who as a host has left her own guests (my hubby's very loud relatives) and gone upstairs to escape the noise, I have no problem with what Shane did. And I didn't even have kids that were trying to sleep.

Vicki said "I love you" to Steve with all the feeling of someone telling their partner they have broccoli in their teeth. 

I find it hard to believe that Shannon did not know that you have to pay for water? Maybe she should not have reduced her monthly payment from David - there could be other bills she doesn't know about. 

[UsernameFatigue]

3 minutes ago, Marley said:

 

Tamra and her mom feeling so bad for poor David being screwed? Get the fuck out of here. The guy makes big bucks and he controlled the finances for 20 years. Shannon was a stay at home Mom who took care of the household. She’s supposed to just get thrown out on her ass because he’s a dick and ruins their marriage. Shannon probably supported his career for years. The 2 trailer trash bitches can get a grip lol.

 

I am pretty sure that if Simon had been ordered to pay Tamra $30,000 a month, Tamra's mom would have been just fine with it. And we know Tamra would have.

I really enjoyed Kelly sticking up for Shannon when Tamra was going off on her. How times have changed. I don't know that I necessarily believe that Shannon never asks about Eddie - Tamra has been known to play lose and fast with the truth. I think it is more likely that Tamra mostly talks about Tamra's foot, and that appears to be as big a concern as Eddie's health to her. But I can't blame Shannon for being confused about Tamra, since Tamra is obviously not being truthful with Shannon about what is really bothering her. 

[oceanview]

2 hours ago, nexxie said:

To me she doesn’t seem like somebody in love - more like somebody who can’t stand to be single.

Edit: That seems pretty random but I was thinking that Steve gave her the clubs, lol

  I agree about wanting to be married.   She hates being single, like she cannot catch a guy or something.   Get over it Vicki.  You don't have a lot to offer with your personality.    Your taste in men is questionable, with the exception of Donn, IMO

[Jets4274]

2 hours ago, JD5166 said:

What.the.fuck.is.kelly.wearing.to feed.the.homeless? Oh my GOD!!!!!!

I agree that Kelly's choice of attire to feed the homeless was a bit too "let me be on their level" with the bum hat and holes in the pullover but I do applaud her as a mom.  Can see that she and her daughter (who looks just like her) have a great relationship.

[oceanview]

2 hours ago, Thumper said:

Chardonnay at Aldi???  Sadly, not in MN -- not allowed.

I did like Kelly taking her daughter to feed the homeless.  Good exposure for a young person.

Yes.  Jolie seems compassionate and natural.  Did not seem forced.   I think it would be wonderful for them to go regularly to see and help.  This is relationship work that might helped them both.  

[mbaywife123]

I am really having a hard time getting thru this season.

Vicki= I will NEVER forgive her for Brooks and cancer scam bullshit.

Tamra= As someone else said upthread she has chosen Shannon to go after this season. Rinse & repete.

Shannon= Girl you in danger, Tamra &'Vicki  are coming for you.

Kelly= Looks like she looses her shit next week, did someone leave her at the Costco food court with a hot dog and soda yet again.

The two newbies and their rugrats I don't want to watch and FF thru those scenes.

This show used to be a fun escape from the Monday work grind and now it escapes me as to why I want to watch this anymore.

[LilaFowler]

41 minutes ago, MinorL said:

Tamra’s so cold. When she was saying all that stuff about “when you have a husband you have a good relationship with,” etc, it was a total dig at Shannon. It would probably be easier to just tell Shannon that she wishes Shannon would ask about Eddie or come to her for training than being a passive aggressive asshole. 

She did and has.

Abuse-gate: seems to me that it was actually Kelly who stoked the fires there when she privately met with Emily. Maybe I imagined that because by the end I was barely paying attention. The whole thing has been blown way out of proportion. The first mistake was Emily hosting a game night when she had young kids in the house in the first place.

There is something so off in the way that Kelly thinks and expresses herself. It's obvious to me when she is on her meds and when she isn't. I feel sorry for Jolie for having Kelly and Michael for parents.

[ivygirl]

1 hour ago, UsernameFatigue said:

Who is Scott?

Sorry, Shane. Other than being a jerk, I guess he isn’t that memorable.

[ivygirl]

2 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

 

Eddie’s off his medication and drinking martinis.  Sigh.

That was sad. And they kept zooming in on the drinks.

I generally like Eddie. Sorry to see that he’s not taking every step he can to manage his health. I get being averse to meds, but this is such a serious situation.

[bagger]

2 hours ago, Marley said:

I really like Kelly this season and I can’t wait till next week when she calls Shane a little bitch. He is a total douche bag. I have disliked him in every scene he’s been in. Emily tries saying he’s witty and sarcastic but he’s not. He’s not funny he’s just a fucking dick. Kelly cracks me up.

Vicki and her whole prim and proper act is a joke. What is wrong with Steve that he’s with someone like Vicki. 

Tamra and her mom feeling so bad for poor David being screwed? Get the fuck out of here. The guy makes big bucks and he controlled the finances for 20 years. Shannon was a stay at home Mom who took care of the household. She’s supposed to just get thrown out on her ass because he’s a dick and ruins their marriage. Shannon probably supported his career for years. The 2 trailer trash bitches can get a grip lol.

I do agree tho that it’s pretty bad Shannon is not asking about Eddie. It’s probably because he’s all buddy buddy with douchebag David but still she should support her friend. On the other hand Tamra probably barely supports him since it’s been all about her since she broke her foot lol.

I myself am living for Kelly. Her blinders are off about vicki and she’s not afraid to say whatever pops into her head.

on a different note who is the brunette in the background?