S10.E20: Reunion Part 1

[CrinkleCutCat]

16 minutes ago, film noire said:

I think she's plenty sane, but almost everybody who tries to get close to Bethenny ends up crazy.

I'm not saying that to be incendiary; it's just what narcs do. Drive people mad, and then drive them away. Up is down and down is sideways and I never called you a bad businesswoman and they're always right and you're always wrong, even when you prove them 100 percent wrong with real world evidence  (wanna get a judge in here?)  they deny it and sob and cry and interrupt you and deflect your points and talk and talk and talk and never say anything  meaningful -- only barbs and bullshit and bloviating -- and the insults flow and they call them quips and their bitterness rains down like battery acid, even as they say I love you but when push comes to shove, they will filet you like a fish if you threaten their self image, if you dare to breathe  a word of anything but praise, dare to say wait, but that's not how it went down and once that happens their only goal is to demean you so they can feel good about themselves;  about their up is down & down is sideways selves.

There is no sane response to that other than to walk away.

So brava to Carole (someone I never liked, and often loathed) for being the only one in Frankel's orbit to figure that out, the only one to walk away, and in the leaving, remain sane.  

Take a bow.... that was such a razor sharp description of Frankel. Although I don’t think Frankel wants to demean those who ‘wrong’ her, she wants (or needs) to incinerate them so she can walk triumphantly over their ashes.

[ScoobieDoobs]

1 minute ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

Take a bow.... that was such a razor sharp description of Frankel. Although I don’t think Frankel wants to demean those who ‘wrong’ her, she wants (or needs) to incinerate them so she can walk triumphantly over their ashes.

Yeah, I really think she first started this shtick with Kelly.  She easily chewed her up & spit her out for our entertainment.  And Kelly was nasty as fuck, so nobody had any sympathy for her.  Now, it's like Bethenny will target her death rays on pretty much everyone.  And I guess this is why Andy Cohen pays her the million bucks to be on show & assumes this is why viewers watch. 

This reunion reminded me why I can't take Bethenny.  I hate watching her being miserably nasty to anyone in her path.

If Carole did actually leave on her own, then kudos to her.  But I have a hard time believing that one.  She has no job & her writing career went bust.  She's really gonna leave a gig that pays hundreds of thousands?  Really?  We see how obvious it is that Bethenny is Andy Cohen's fav here -- by far.  Could it be he booted Carole merely cuz Bethenny asked him to?  Yup.

[ava111]

6 hours ago, SweetieDarling said:

She was naked wasted in Mexico in the pool crying with Ramona(? someone) that felt awkward hugging naked Bethenny.

She was naked wasted in the Bezerkshires fighting over an elf onsie with Dorin

ETA: at least Doris doesn't get naked when she's drunk

I would rather deal with naked drunk than with mean, nasty and angry drunk.

[yourmomiseasy]

4 hours ago, ShawnaLanne said:

Is that what it was? It looked like a band aid to me. I was hoping someone could explain what the heck it might be for.

It's scotch tape to serve as a guide to either do a winged liner or have a sharp line on blended shadow.  It's a trick that's been around for years.

[Higgins]

9 hours ago, nexxie said:

It was opportunistic - of Bethenny and of Andy - they both suck!

Yeah Andy, Fuck you.  You parasitic piece of shit. 

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

7 hours ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

 Her snatch guard is in rehab!

This. This is why I come here! Hahahaha

6 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Fine, but has Andy defended ANY of the Housewives besides Bethenny?  He's full of shit because all he does is eat Bethenny's all day.

Housewives:  It's tacky to bring a camera to a funeral.
Andy:  NUH UH.  IT'S REALLY GOOD.  I'M GLAD I DID IT.  IT'S GREAT.

Holy shit, Andy.  

I'm really surprised now, that some people viewed it as a gang up!  I viewed it as "Andy Cohen Presents: The Real Bethenny of Bethenny."  Only Bethenny gets to speak without being interrupted, and Andy screams AND SWEARS at all of the (other) Housewives to let Bethenny speak.  Honestly, my breath was taken away.  It is insane, the bias on this show!

Applause. Andy is off his rocker! Bethenny is his little pet. 

23 minutes ago, Higgins said:

Yeah Andy, Fuck you.  You parasitic piece of shit. 

Andy is a hog. His comment about wanting to see Jill and Bethenny at the funeral was chilling. 

[Mozelle]

5 hours ago, Sunfield said:

I’m watching this tomorrow but to speak to this... Adam met someone else,then dumped Carole. At the same time Bethenny stopped inviting Carole to her Hamptons house on weekends last summer because she was busy with Puerto Rico and Carole was not supportive. Bethenny thought she was honouring Carole’s need for space but Carole took it as B distancing, then flipped it and started gaslighting Bethenny instead. It was nuts.

bottom line - Carole lost her husband and two friends within 2 weeks 19 years ago. This season, Carole lost Adam and Bethenny at the same time nearly. I think Carole may have ptsd and this season triggered it. Eg. She ran a marathon her husband ran and checked his score too. I remember the first season Carole was on. All this time she’s been trying to get past trauma I think. Sadly, trauma just rests, it never goes away. I don’t like her but this is my unqualified thesis on Carole. I genuinely hope she feels better once this is all behind her. I wish the same for Bethenny.

This isn’t correct. I think Bethenny would love for people to believe that she was singlehandedly saving Puerto Ricans during the summer while Carole was flitting around with Tinsley, but that simply isn’t the case. Bethenny was also traveling during the summer (thank goodness she posts so damn much on IG for this to be confirmed). 

While Bethenny was IG’ing all about her Europe travel, Hurricane Harvey hit in Houston. That was right around this same time last year—late August. Like I said, Bethenny was vacationing then and not doing anything about hurricane relief. She actually didn’t start posting about it (in the form of a Red Cross mention on her IG) until the last days of August.

Hurricane Maria didn’t hit Puerto Rico until the middle of September and just before filming began for the HWs in October is when Bethenny was going to Puerto Rico.

Bethenny would love for the narrative to be that she was just being so altruistic while Carole was just being shallow, but that is just not it.

Edited August 23, 2018 by Mozelle

[mwell345]

10 hours ago, QuinnM said:

Twitter alert:  Kelly is telling Bethenny she should step away from RHONY.  And I know she is saying that from the bottom of her heart and not because she wants her apple back.

I doubt Bethenny (or anyone else for that matter) puts much stock in what Kelly says, but this is a quote from Bethenny (People, 8/22/18) talking about the season.

"It’s been a tough season for Bethenny Frankel on The Real Housewives of New York City. 

As the long-running Bravo series completed its tenth season, Frankel, 47, has found herself at a crossroads in her relationships with much of the cast — currently made up of Ramona Singer, Luann de Lesseps, Carole Radziwill, Dorinda Medley, Sonja Morgan and Tinsley Mortimer.

“It’s a little bit difficult,” she told PEOPLE in May. “The whole season was a little bit challenging for me, truthfully. Working so much, I’ve filmed [other] television shows and I’m a mom, which is very important to me, obviously — and I just cracked at the end of the season. I’m not used to that either, so it’s a very different, unsettling season for me.”

First of all, Bethenny  can give as good as, if not better, than she gets. And if she really "just cracked" at the end of the season, then maybe it IS time to rethink her priorities. 

[mwell345]

6 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Fine, but has Andy defended ANY of the Housewives besides Bethenny?  He's full of shit because all he does is eat Bethenny's all day.

Housewives:  It's tacky to bring a camera to a funeral.
Andy:  NUH UH.  IT'S REALLY GOOD.  I'M GLAD I DID IT.  IT'S GREAT.

Holy shit, Andy.  

I'm really surprised now, that some people viewed it as a gang up!  I viewed it as "Andy Cohen Presents: The Real Bethenny of Bethenny."  Only Bethenny gets to speak without being interrupted, and Andy screams AND SWEARS at all of the (other) Housewives to let Bethenny speak.  Honestly, my breath was taken away.  It is insane, the bias on this show!

He's her Johnathan Cheban.

[Kaia40]

Carole is so unfortunate looking!  She looks older than Ramona! Anyway, Carole calling out Bethenny on being mean to Sonja about her businesses and being mean to other cast members is a joke. Since up until this season, Carole, was very happy to participate right along with B in being “mean” to everyone.  I love Bethenny because she says what she feels to their faces and Carole was bashing people but hiding behind Bethenny! 

Also, Carole’s “resignation” is a joke! I believe she was FIRED! The reunion was taped on July 19th from what I read.  Carole was a beast to Andy on the reunion and told him he was full of Sh!t.  Carole’s “resignation” was announced July 28th! Don’t piss off Andy! lol. She also posted a blog with info that Bravo told her no to post.  Then they had to revise it.  In my opinion, Carole would NEVER have left RHONY on her own accord. I think that  Bravo/Andy let her leave that way because they have mutual friends in common (Kelly Ripa) and they prob agreed to let Carole do it that way! 

She had no other story line other than fighting with and bashing Bethenny.  She’s not a fan favorite either.  Every WWHL poll about the Bethenny/Carole issue, people always sided with Bethenny.  Also, the guests on WWHL sided with B too.  Bye bye Carole! lol

[Mozelle]

I’m still in the process of watching, but I have to share that I really laughed out loud during the crosstalk when Bethenny tried to lie and say that Ramona said that Sonja has fake businesses (*cue flashback of Bethenny saying that Sonja has fake businesses*).

Bethenny then goes on to comment about Ramona calling herself a maven. On the other couch you hear Carole saying, “You’re not an expert on jeans.”

Then Dorinda: You’re not an expert on bologna. 

That just cracked me up! Because Bethenny isn’t an expert on bologna...but she is an expert on bologna, you know. 

Edited August 23, 2018 by Mozelle

[Coffeewinewater]

Bethany makes bologna? Seriously? I heard the word bologna a few times and laughed thinking, does she really have skinny girl bologna? 

Edited August 23, 2018 by Coffeewinewater

[QuinnM]

7 minutes ago, Coffeewinewater said:

Bethany makes bologna? Seriously? I heard the word bologna a few times and laughed thinking, does she really have skinny girl bologna? 

Yup, and i thought it was funny.  They just hate that she sells anything.  And quite frankly that is straight up jealousy. She has managed to actually get things to market and sell them.  

[mwell345]

Apparently Red Scarf guy comes up at the reunion?

 

 

 

[weaver]

Bethenny had lunchmeat. https://www.meatpoultry.com/articles/16402-smithfield-partners-with-skinnygirl-on-new-deli-meat-rollout

I think its one of the many products that came and went quickly.  

I thought Carole's dress was spectacular with that art deco pattern on the bodice.   Otherwise, the show didn't engage me, too much overtalking and repetition of old arguments.

Bethenny had lunchmeat. https://www.meatpoultry.com/articles/16402-smithfield-partners-with-skinnygirl-on-new-deli-meat-rollout

I think its one of the many products that came and went quickly.  

I thought Carole's dress was spectacular with that art deco pattern on the bodice.   Otherwise, the show didn't engage me, too much overtalking and repetition of old arguments.

[QuinnM]

She still has lunchmeat.  She still has popcorn.  Beam still has SkinnyGirl.  She still has chocolates.  She never went past the prototype on luggage.  One of the first, the shape wear is online only, kinda like Sonja there .  Right now the jeans line hits stores in September.  She also is a co invested on 2-3 products from Shark Tank and she’s back on Shark Tank this year.  I don’t know that doesn’t seem like a bad record for this kind of thing.

[Mozelle]

19 minutes ago, QuinnM said:

Yup, and i thought it was funny.  They just hate that she sells anything.  And quite frankly that is straight up jealousy. She has managed to actually get things to market and sell them.  

Except that it came up because Bethenny was hitting at Ramona having all these endeavors. Bethenny can’t try to shit on Ramona for that when Bethenny herself has slapped her name on anything that will allow her name to be on it.

Edited August 23, 2018 by Mozelle

[chewycandy]

Good moment: Ramona talks about selling, not renting her apartment. Dorinda says, “yeah, who wants to be a landlord?” Camera cuts to Sonja.

[DrSparkles]

These goddamn women (not girls!!)!!! I watched this right before bed & all of the screaming & poo flinging got me so jacked up, I couldn't fall asleep & I woke up with a raging headache!!! As Prince would say, act your age, not your shoe size!!!!!

[ShawnaLanne]

On reflection, actually it didn't take much reflection at all, I'm happy that the three witches went so hard at Bethenny. She's taking it and coming out looking good. Andy defending her is a joke. He stopped the dogpile once or twice, but those women steamrolled him.

What did they have?

Carole and Ramona look like the worst kind of friends and hypocrits for defending Dorinda's drinking. Almost every point they've made has been refuted, Bethenny doesn't care about other women, cue the scenes of the women crying on her shoulder this year. Bethenny shouldn't have filmed at the funeral, ... Cue the news that both the widow Jill and Bravo asked her to. It's all about the camera's cries Dorinda and then she snarls that yes Bethenny thanked her, but not on camera., BTW, it's been established she thanked her on camera.

Ramona and her bolt on comments with her own bolt on's. Dorinda bashing and taunting Sonja from the moment they say down, Carole being so up her own ass she couldn't even turn off her phone and pissing Andy off at the beginning. None of them having anything else going on but Bethenny.

Yeah. What a dream team.

[Keywestclubkid]

This is the first reunion I can remember where Andy was so in your face with his preference to one housewife over all the others and it wasn't pretty. And it firmly snaps into focus the edit she always seems to get. So with that I can see how the other housewives would be pissed that year after year she isn't called on her shit and they seem to be dragged. Did it seem like they all were gunning for Beth (yes) Did she deserve it with her double speak and backhanded slams and throwing the housewives under the bus while trying to make herself the martyr? (yes) Doesn't Andy think shes a big enough girl to take care of herself without attacking the other ladies to defend her over shit he normally keeps quiet about? (apparently not) even the Island breakdown she had which ANDY and Bravo would have normally played up like they did for Kelly wasn't played up at all but was minimized which is really fucked up... Its like every year someone takes the bad edit except for BETH and that has to get annoying esp when you see all the shit she does.. Id be gunning for her to

Edited August 23, 2018 by Keywestclubkid

[Mindthinkr]

55 minutes ago, Kaia40 said:

I think that  Bravo/Andy let her leave that way because they have mutual friends in common (Kelly Ripa) and they prob agreed to let Carole do it that way! 

It’s interesting to me that Andy has so many famous friends, like Kelly Ripa, who is an actual NY housewife. Yet he can’t get any of them to sign up for this show. Mind you there’d be excuses galore. Kelly would say filming schedules and other commitments but I think the truth lies in the fact that they all know how Andy manipulates things and realize that this could make or break their career. That he controls the narrative of their edit. Andy...I want a new cast member who IS somebody. Someone with an interesting life who can bring back some of the things that I am missing, like house and food porn. Someone to give Frankel a run for her money. 

[Guest]

On 8/22/2018 at 8:38 PM, bagger said:

She quit because of this reunion not before

I agree

The look on Andy's face when her phone rang was priceless

To me...Bethenny has always been intriguing..so many layers...so little time.

I can't believe that the housewives (after all this time) still attack Andy's favorite.

Most of the franchise(s) have a favorite...they are all still there.

 

I stopped watching a few minutes in.

Same old...same old

Edited August 24, 2018 by artisto
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[noveltylibrary]

9 hours ago, Thumper said:

I give her credit.  No one else goes after Andy for his favoritism and his love for women having "cat fights."  Dislike Andy and his motives.

But why wouldn't he thrilled with cat fights?  It's what the franchise depends on.  I love Andy for helping to create this delicious insanity.  I listen to his radio show, he's interesting, fun and actually self-deprecating.

[bichonblitz]

8 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I also think that if she does return, the other women will be kinder and more gentle with her, given what has happened with Dennis, and that Carole will not be around to spearhead any mean girl behaviors.  

I'm sure they will be kinder and gentler because they will be ordered to play nice if they want to stay on the show. Just as Tamra and Shannon were told to make up with Vicki for the sake of the RHOC show, if you watch that franchise you will understand what I'm talking about. I don't think Carole spearheaded any mean girl behaviors. Bethenny brought that on all by herself. She treated them all like crap, except Sonja who has no backbone and LuAnne who B has always hated for 10 years calling her a snake and a whore.  B needs her now to film with and Lu needs a job so she's going to be friends with her. For now.  How convenient for B. 

Edited August 23, 2018 by bichonblitz

[noveltylibrary]

9 hours ago, RHJunkie said:

In terms of overall looks, I thought Bethenny and Carole looked the best but I liked Sonja's dress the best...mainly because it's the only one I would wear myself, lol. 

Agreed and how much did you love that she got it off the rack for $149? :) 

[scoobie1]

10 hours ago, Pop Tart said:

I think Bethenny should have responded to this by admitting yes that is so. When she thought Sonja had a bunch of fake start ups, businesses that were nothing more then a pre-launch, she called Sonja on it. Same thing she’s done with Ramona. But when Sonja has an actual product, the shoes, she is supportive or at the least acknowledges that, yeah, you’ve got something going. The times they’re calling her unsupportive are those times when a HW announces this or that business venture that doesn’t yet, and probably never will, exist. Sonja’s toasters, Ramona’s skincare, etc.

I thought she did that. I heard her say something like that right after they showed that old clip of her putting Sonja down.  She said "but now she has a real business and I support her"  or something like that.

Can I just say that I giggled every time one of those ladies said "bologna".  LOL.  

[weaver]

21 minutes ago, QuinnM said:

She still has lunchmeat.  She still has popcorn.  Beam still has SkinnyGirl.  She still has chocolates.  She never went past the prototype on luggage.  One of the first, the shape wear is online only, kinda like Sonja there .  Right now the jeans line hits stores in September.  She also is a co invested on 2-3 products from Shark Tank and she’s back on Shark Tank this year.  I don’t know that doesn’t seem like a bad record for this kind of thing.

Lunchmeat and chocolates are not on the SG website.  Odd that she wouldn't promote them.  Shapewear tanked bigtime on QVC, as did her blender.  She was not invited back.  Where are the vitamins?  Where is Arizona?   Is the sweetener still around?  I'll reserve judgement on the jeans; there are no store announcements and its pretty late.  

Popcorn was a big hit, it was Orville Redenbacher's rebranded.  

She made a killing on Beam.  From there she slapped her name on many many products, very few of which exist currently.  Early "books" written on a phone, and surely edited by others sold.  Later ones tanked.  Talk show failed and Frederik show failed.  Her second apt did not sell.  

She hustles like crazy, but makes many, many mistakes.  She is very lucky that the Beam thing was such a windfall.   She's no Karan or Blakely or Stewart or even lower level Kardashian who seem to sell everything by virtue of their name only .  

[vetiver]

Is this how this reunion is going to? The women will air their grievances with Beth and the audience will go "they're ganging up on Beth. Poor Beth". Carole will end up looking like the villain in their eyes even though Beth is the main culprit in the demise of their friendship. They've should've kept it more cool.

Edited August 23, 2018 by vetiver

[bichonblitz]

4 minutes ago, noveltylibrary said:

Agreed and how much did you love that she got it off the rack for $149? :) 

I believe Sonja said it was from her own line. I liked it, good for her. 

[tvfanatic13]

Decidedly team B. And yes Dorinda you are a drunk. And a mean one at that. 

[RHJunkie]

3 minutes ago, noveltylibrary said:

Agreed and how much did you love that she got it off the rack for $149? :) 

It would make my week if I was able to find a dress like that on the clearance rack for that price! I also love that Sonja copped to it because a lot of times I feel that she's talking about things that insinuate wealth and status (ex. her home, going on extravagant vacations, yachts, private planes, socializing with royalty, etc.), it was nice to see that even a woman who enjoys all of that still can't resist an amazing deal, lol.

[Keywestclubkid]

2 minutes ago, vetiver said:

Is this how this reunion is going to? The women will air their grievances with Beth and the audience will go "they're ganging up on Beth. Poor Beth" Carole will end up looking like the villain in their eyes even though Beth is the main culprit in the demise of their friendship. They've should've kept it more cool.

I'm not thinking poor Beth at all. I'm thinking yes she deserves this for once thank god the ladies have the balls to do it this season and I'm thinking what a pompous hypocritical ass Andy is coming across as.... 

[noveltylibrary]

9 hours ago, MJS said:

So Carole didn’t bash Bethenny on the show? Because it sure seemed like she did to me...

Not to mention her endless bashing tweets, she even had one the day Dennis died, which she had to take down once she found out.

[RedDelicious]

This reunion was just not entertaining.  Honestly it was an hour of "you're drunk, no YOU'RE drunk, no you're A drunk." 

I don't like Bethenny.  I never, ever will.  She is vile.  She is the evil incarnation of every narcissist I've ever known.  There's a reason the only people in her life are paid for employees and her poor daughter.

Not even bothering with Part II.

[RHJunkie]

6 minutes ago, scoobie1 said:

I thought she did that. I heard her say something like that right after they showed that old clip of her putting Sonja down.  She said "but now she has a real business and I support her"  or something like that.

Can I just say that I giggled every time one of those ladies said "bologna".  LOL.  

I don't recall her copping to that but Ramona kind of went ballistic at Bethenny's comment so it's possible that Ramona drowned her out for me. I forgot to call Bethenny out for that in my original post because she was very much in the camp of people who thought Sonja was spinning her wheels with all of these business ventures that never seemed to get off the ground. She framed it in a way that suggested that Ramona was the one talking shit, but in turn, all of the women responded in kind that it was Bethenny who was doing that. The reality is that I think all of them (maybe except for Dorinda) were taking shots at Sonja and her fake businesses. The fact that both sides inflated the others role rather than speak honestly is just another example of why all of them targeting Bethenny in this fashion makes no sense for their image (IMO). For every accusation that was hurled at Bethenny (which was true), there is a similar example of the accuser behaving in the same fashion, toward Bethenny and/or others in the cast.

[Keywestclubkid]

6 minutes ago, RHJunkie said:

I don't recall her copping to that but Ramona kind of went ballistic at Bethenny's comment so it's possible that Ramona drowned her out for me. I forgot to call Bethenny out for that in my original post because she was very much in the camp of people who thought Sonja was spinning her wheels with all of these business ventures that never seemed to get off the ground. She framed it in a way that suggested that Ramona was the one talking shit, but in turn, all of the women responded in kind that it was Bethenny who was doing that. The reality is that I think all of them (maybe except for Dorinda) were taking shots at Sonja and her fake businesses. The fact that both sides inflated the others role rather than speak honestly is just another example of why all of them targeting Bethenny in this fashion makes no sense for their image (IMO). For every accusation that was hurled at Bethenny (which was true), there is a similar example of the accuser behaving in the same fashion, toward Bethenny and/or others in the cast.

Did you hear Sonja? you poisoned Beth against me talking bad thats the only reason she was saying mean things.. ARE you BLIND DEAF AND STUPID Sonja? No one made Beth talk that shit about you for YEARS that was all Bethany no one made her do that or influenced her ....Sonja has drank the Kool Aid and is so far up her ass now its not even funny .... thats like a battered wife she didnt mean to beat me it was all everyone else fault she would never do that to me on her own ...wake up Sonja as soon as she doesn't need you to stay on this show (cause she has no one else to film with) you will be dumped again

Edited August 23, 2018 by Keywestclubkid

[blixie]

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This is the first reunion I can remember where Andy was so in your face with his preference to one housewife over all the others and it wasn't pretty.

This so much he was getting really fucking nasty with Carole when she dared attack his Golden Goose Bethenny and like even now I enjoy Bethenny but she's a nightmare of a "real" friend, and constantly  needs to be in control and spin her little tops in and out of her life. It's not just a coincidence that when Carole got on to her game she rotated in Sonja and Luann to newly bestow benevolence on. 

I was wondering why Caorle quite just as she was turning into an ACTUAL housewife this season and now I know why, because of Andy and this reunion. 

[noveltylibrary]

8 hours ago, Coffeewinewater said:

I was stressed about a few thing in the last few months and I would have a few glasses of wine at night,  pretty soon it became a  bottle every night.  My husband started to comment on it at first I was meh whatever then I became defensive like really itching for an argument about anything I felt was any comment regarding my drinking.  Let's just say I woke up and decided to take a break. I haven't had a drop in about a month. I feel great. I'm sure I'll have a drink again eventually but for now I'm good. I don't think I have a problem but I let it become a habit that I relied on. Sorry for the TMI. Your point about Dorinda makes sense to me she knows she's getting out of control and feels defensive.  

Good for you! I quit 11 years ago.  I knew it finally had to be done, after trying to "cut down" or drink water between drinks (which always failed).  And to the surprise of everyone, I haven't missed it at all!  Seltzer is my best friend:)  So as frustrating as Dorinda is, I definitely understand the denial when you can't imagine not having alcohol in your life.

[DrSparkles]

11 hours ago, bosawks said:

Oddly, for being such a feral, bombastic  creature of darkness Ramona doesn’t seem to keen on sustaining prolonged grudges.

Creating and recreating ones, sure, but sustaining not so much.

I snorted! Oatmeal almost came out my nose!!

Regarding B's awful boobs, she's got so much money, why not have them redone? (Aside from having to be put under & then the recovery period!) She needs to get a referral from Ramoaner's dr bc nutty as R is, her face & skin look pretty damn good.

Regarding B's fortune, I just re-watched seasons 1-3 recently & picked up on something (that most of you already know/remember)... I think it was when she & Jill went to the racetrack & that weird dude gave her that inappropriate bday gift of lingerie & in her TH she said something about him being in the liquor distribution/development biz. It occurred to me that maybe that's where she got that particular connection?? However it happened, she parlayed that into an enviable fortune. I am NO FAN of Bethany, but she has always been a hustler & it paid off for her. Happiness? Not so much.

[noveltylibrary]

8 hours ago, ShawnaLanne said:

Is that what it was? It looked like a band aid to me. I was hoping someone could explain what the heck it might be for.

It's a goofy way of applying eyeshadow flawlessly.  

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

43 minutes ago, ShawnaLanne said:

 

Ramona and her bolt on comments with her own bolt on's.

Yeah. What a dream team.

I think Ramona said this because Bethenny has talked at length publicly about years ago having a boob job and implants that she took OUT later because it was a bad boob job, she brags that what she has now is just a "lift". Some lift! Hard to believe that it a lift with no help from implants. 

[bichonblitz]

3 minutes ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

I think Ramona said this because Bethenny has talked at length publicly about years ago having a boob job and implants that she took OUT later because it was a bad boob job, she brags that what she has now is just a "lift". Some lift! Hard to believe that it a lift with no help from implants. 

She's full of shit. That's definitely a lift plus implants. You can't lift saggy boobs and have them high and hard like that without putting implants in. The reason it looks weird is because she has a bony chest and the implants are too far apart. 

[Jel]

3 minutes ago, vetiver said:

Is this how this reunion is going to? The women will air their grievances with Beth and the audience will go "they're ganging up on Beth. Poor Beth". Carole will end up looking like the villain in their eyes even though Beth is the main culprit in the demise of their friendship. They've should've kept it more cool.

It was depressing to see them all high fivin' the Dream Teammmm! when the team sport turns out to be Gang Up.  

I cannot tell if Carole left or was fired. I could see her being so pissed at Andy and what she thought was inequitable treatment (and friendship betrayal by choosing Bethenny over her)  that she decided to quit right after the reunion.  I could also see Andy firing her if she refused to film with Beth going forward. (I wonder if the Beth Carole feud was good for ratings.)

[Mindthinkr]

What scares me is the fact that I see Dorinda as a dangerous drinker. She is not afraid to engage in nasty behavior and comments. Someday, someplace she’s going to say the wrong thing to someone and they are going to lash back physically. In her inebriated state I don’t see her as being able to hold her own, but I do remember an article where she took her high heel off and threatened someone with it. I believe it was a near arrest. She stabbed her self with a knife and then in Colombia she broke the glass when sitting across from LuAnne. I don’t blame Lu for getting up and walking away. She should not be allowed to play around sharp objects; for her own safety as well as others. 

She claims that she either hasn’t been drinking (at times when she’s clearly heard slurring) or states she only had two (bottles?) Then what else is she doing in combination? Two drinks shouldn’t produce that kind of drunken behavior. Is she taking Valium as well to help control her nerves? That could have deadly consequences. Cocaine? At her age I’d be scared of a heart attack from doing it. Why is she so afraid of the stigma of alcoholism? I think an above poster answered that right...because she doesn’t want to have to stop. She clearly has a problem. Was the absence of John due to him not wanting to be around her cruel behavior anymore or because we viewers had not so nice things to say about him and Bravo listened? I think we will get some answers next season. She’s either going to dig her hole deeper or have a redemption season where she really does “make things nice”. 

[Bossa Nova]

11 hours ago, ShawnaLanne said:

It somewhat supports the running theory that Ramona is on the Spectrum to me. My child is on the Spectrum, high functioning, but he has auditory processing issues, it takes a while if things are chaotic or he is emotional or stressful to process what is being said and he can't articulate in a high emotional state well at all. 

Oh. Backwards! Thanks. Yes, I'm thinking Andy and Carole had that moment.

Thank you for sharing that Shawnalanne.

Interesting observation and I appreciate your personal experience.

I have long been convinced that Kelly Bensimmon was on the Spectrum. Her infamous behavior on the Scary Island episodes in Season 3 sealed it for me. Plus her numerous other behaviorial 'tells' throughout her three season run on RH of NY did it for me. I wrote a long post on this forum about Kelly on my theory way back.

Edited August 23, 2018 by Bossa Nova

[Jel]

3 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

What scares me is the fact that I see Dorinda as a dangerous drinker. She is not afraid to engage in nasty behavior and comments. Someday, someplace she’s going to say the wrong thing to someone and they are going to lash back physically. In her inebriated state I don’t see her as being able to hold her own, but I do remember an article where she took her high heel off and threatened someone with it. I believe it was a near arrest. She stabbed her self with a knife and then in Colombia she broke the glass when sitting across from LuAnne. I don’t blame Lu for getting up and walking away. She should not be allowed to play around sharp objects; for her own safety as well as others. 

She claims that she either hasn’t been drinking (at times when she’s clearly heard slurring) or states she only had two (bottles?) Then what else is she doing in combination? Two drinks shouldn’t produce that kind of drunken behavior. Is she taking Valium as well to help control her nerves? That could have deadly consequences. Cocaine? At her age I’d be scared of a heart attack from doing it. Why is she so afraid of the stigma of alcoholism? I think an above poster answered that right...because she doesn’t want to have to stop. She clearly has a problem. Was the absence of John due to him not wanting to be around her cruel behavior anymore or because we viewers had not so nice things to say about him and Bravo listened? I think we will get some answers next season. She’s either going to dig her hole deeper or have a redemption season where she really does “make things nice”. 

I think Bethenny summed it up when she said, "This is denial."

[Mindthinkr]

1 minute ago, Jel said:

I think Bethenny summed it up when she said, "This is denial."

Then Bravo should send them on a trip next season to Egypt so they can all float up that river. 

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

2 minutes ago, DrSparkles said:

 

Regarding B's fortune, I just re-watched seasons 1-3 recently & picked up on something (that most of you already know/remember)... I think it was when she & Jill went to the racetrack & that weird dude gave her that inappropriate bday gift of lingerie & in her TH she said something about him being in the liquor distribution/development biz. It occurred to me that maybe that's where she got that particular connection?? However it happened, she parlayed that into an enviable fortune. I am NO FAN of Bethany, but she has always been a hustler & it paid off for her. Happiness? Not so much.

I have LONG believed her Dad's connections helped with Beam.  Louis Lazzinnaro was the guy at the track. He was one of Bobby  Frankel's closest confidants and was at his bedside when he was dying, LL is hooked up in Saratoga and in the racing world, and one of Bobby Frankel's prominent (horse) owners. He was described in an early article as like a sibling to Bethenny also. Bethenny had his wife on her talk show on an entrepreneur segment promoting her cheesecakes. I always felt she was passing off this lady as a stranger, lady bountiful helping a fellow woman entrepreneur. BS she was the wife of someone who was like a sibling to Bethenny. Fake fake fake.  Bethenny can talk all she wants about making it on her own. She didn't. Ramona was right to point out at reunion how her wealthy father paid for college and cars. Bethenny said NOTHING when Ramona accused her of that. Very telling. It was her best way out. 

[Tiggertoo]

I missed the first part of the show.  Stupid PVR.

I liked Beth’s dress but not on her, if you know what I mean. I didn’t think it was her style.   I need to see the rest of the dresses again before commenting.  Do they coordinate on colour choices?

 

I think Beth would be a horrible, overwhelming person to be friends with, but that’s also what makes her good TV.  In real life, if forced to pick, I’m on Carole’s team, although I don’t love her either.  Remember at the start of the season, and she genuinely seemed to be asking if Beth was mad at her.  I think she honestly was confused by how Beth was treating her, but then once she turned on her, she really turned on her.

Having said that, I think the gang up was a terrible idea, poorly executed.  And I’ve never seen Andy so blatantly on one persons side.

I still wish they could past whatever their issues are, I enjoyed them as friends.

I don’t understand the filming of the funeral.  If none of the others knew about the cameras, was the show just going to film the funeral without any castmembers?  Or did they decide to film after Beth said she was attending and Jill agreed to it.

Next season, I’d love to see Beth turn on Sonja and become besties with Ramona.  You know she could do it.  And I remember when Beth was so ill with her fibroid issues (?) and she said at the time Ramona was the one who was the most caring, attentive friend.  Or am I dreaming that?

 

Overall, I much preferred last season to this one.