S13.E02: One Apology, Another Betrayal

[nexxie]

1 hour ago, lamujerdecente said:

Aww my dear you are so wrong! Vicki has loads of empathy. For herself. 

That’s Bravo style narcissistic self-interest.

[SCS]

Any of you OG NYC watchers remember how Avery was the port of calm in the Ramonacyclone? Jolie seems to be the new Avery.

[lilmarysunshine]

At least this episode Emily said she wanted another daughter instead of wanting a sister for her daughter. Because her daughter has a sister. In fact, she has two of them from their dad’s first marriage. I cannot stand when new spouses like to pretend that the first family does not exist. That marriage is doomed!

Totally Team Kelly on Michael’s dating life. That is just wrong and Kelly saying she wants him to date has nothing to do with not telling your friend. Particularly because Kelly did not seem to mind. Now with Shannon, I can see having reservations because she seems so hurt by it. Who wants to be the bearer of bad news? But I would definitely 1. not set him up, 2. not double-date and 3. tell my friend so we could talk shit about the new couple. That is what friends do!

Edited July 24, 2018 by lilmarysunshine

[RHJunkie]

1 hour ago, Dirtybubble said:

With all that Eddie is going thru I feel like maybe this isn't the right time to be stressing him out over Vicky.  Tamra may be over it but what Vicky insinuated with Eddie was just mean.  But then again I don't understand why Tamra would decide to move right in the middle of Eddie's surgery and such.  Relaxing in home that is being renovated...IDK how that would work.

She seems very supportive and caring for him so I won't doubt that but I agree that the life decisions that she's making in light of his health issues don't make all that much sense to me.

[UsernameFatigue]

I don't know if this is considered a spoiler because it is public knowledge (I read it on another site and then googled as well) but :

Spoiler

Gina filed for divorce from her hubby on April 2nd. I thought it was interesting that in the first of the show when the howives say their tag lines, they show two pics of their wedding but his face is not shown in either pic. Wonder if that is because the divorce is already in the works before we even meet her? 

Edited July 24, 2018 by UsernameFatigue

[Marcya23]

I believe I heard on Radio Andy (I think on Jeff Lewis' show) that the original reason Gina's husband wasn't shown or filmed was due to his employer.  

[biakbiak]

20 minutes ago, lilmarysunshine said:

least this episode Emily said she wanted another daughter instead of wanting a sister for her daughter. 

Given how she described her daughter last week and only appeared to be focused on the boys I got the impression that the reason she emphasized another daughter is she is hoping she to get a girly girl and her other daughter isn’t even part of the equation.

[peacockblue]

Tis the season of the protruding turkey waddle 

[Higgins]

I think I'd rather be calm and stable with thinning hair and skin than this but I wouldn't know yet and I'm probably wrong. ;)

[Natalie68]

19 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

That martini, which Eddie the heart patient shouldn’t be drinking, went to his head. So disappointed he’s forgiving Vicki. I’m sure this renewed friendship won’t last. 

RIGHT??!!  My husband is on blood thinners and he isn't supposed to drink.  With all Eddie has going on he needs to stop drinking.  Now.  

19 hours ago, bosawks said:

In my head I always think “I thought turkeys could fly” when someone says “As god is my witness”....

RIP Mr. Carlson.

BEST SITCOM EP EVER!!!!!

18 hours ago, JD5166 said:

Is the new gal an attorney? She hasn’t mentioned what she does? Also, she smells a fart...all the time. 

She and her husband have ZERO chemistry.  Maybe below zero if that is possible.

[Carolina Girl]

Hmmm.....trying to picture this scenario.

Right after Vicki and Don split up, Vicki will of course be all about Don needs to move on, get a girlfriend, and in turn she'll be whooping it up!

Cut to......Geana comes to visit her some months later and talks about how she's had a couple BBQ's and Don's been there and some of her single girl friends who wanted to meet him also attended and oh, by the way, she and her beau have been double dating with them a few times.

Vicki's explosion at that news could have been seen from a NASA satellite.  

[Natalie68]

18 hours ago, tomsmom said:

Why was new housewife (the one I thiiiink might be an attorney) dressed like she was on Dynasty at dinner and the husband was dressed like he was going to a barbecue at Vicki’s??

I wondered the same thing.

[Natalie68]

17 hours ago, rags said:

These two new housewives are just as boring to watch as Peggy & Lydia. Yes, I am going to admit this....bring back Heather Dubrow.

That rolls through my head every time I watch an ep without her

[LovesTheDrama]

I was trying to figure out why Tamara and Eddie would move before their new house was finished and decided it must be because they sold their old house and had to get out when escrow closed. I’m curious about the kitchen because that built in seating area looks huge and potentially ugly. 

I hope once Emily sees herself on the episodes that she’ll realize smiling is an important thing to do. 

I miss Heather too. 

Edited July 24, 2018 by LovesTheDrama
Forgot to mention Heather.

[Natalie68]

17 hours ago, JAYJAY1979 said:

I'm all for hiring a housewife that has kids, but I'd rather they be 12/13 or older instead of little kids running around while the housewife thinks they're adorable.  

I truly think Vicki doesn't think she was lying to Kelly, it's almost fascinating seeing Vicki say in one sentence that she had no idea what happened with Kelly's ex and Vicki's friend.. and in the following sentence just casually mention that she and Steve went out a few times with Kelly's ex and Vicki's friend.  I think Kelly was more upset that Vicki was lying to her rather than the fact that her ex was dating someone.

Emily doesn't like to work out and she seems a little quirky.  I think she's trying to be like Jeana/Shannon.. but both of those girls were just themselves.  Perhaps Emily will eventually let her true persona come out.  I don't know about anyone else, but if I hired her to be my lawyer... I'd be concerned if I found out she was a party planner on the side.. I'd be afraid her focus wouldn't be 100 percent on my case because she'd be either distracted about a party she was planning, or she would drop my case onto one of her inexperienced assistants to research.

Gina...hmmm.. jury is out.  Again.. why can't we hire a housewife with teen children and/or grown children.

Shannon's three daughters (especially Stella) have unique personalities... heck I'd watch a whole episode of Shannon embarrassing her three daughters by accident by doing her Bret Michael's stance or trying to listen to music her daughters listen to.

Me too.  I never want another episode that has someone pulling back someone's pants and talking about there being poop there.  I am here for the adults.  

I would be concerned as well.  

[Gem 10]

18 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

Why is Steve with Vicki?  Why?

Hmmmmm, what do you think ?  Lol.  Her “love tank” that’s why.

[Cherrio]

30 minutes ago, Carolina Girl said:

Cut to......Geana comes to visit her some months later and talks about how she's had a couple BBQ's and Don's been there and some of her single girl friends who wanted to meet him also attended and oh, by the way, she and her beau have been double dating with them a few times.

Vicki's explosion at that news could have been seen from a NASA satellite. 

Let's get Kelly and Donn together !    

[Natalie68]

6 hours ago, Pegasaurus said:

It's different for some.  I had my period through age 57; no artificial hormones involved.  Happy when they finally stopped except after a couple years you realize the changes in hair, skin, etc.   Bleh.

But I think Shannon looks very good at age 54 - not too artificial.

Tamra - she has a great body and can look very pretty but often her face looks harsh.  Like it's going to crack.

Kelly is actually very pretty when she's not drunk and yelling.

Vicki is just a hot mess.  Gross person.  Steve must be a weirdo to put with her.  Or there's a financial advantage.

Eddie - laughing out loud when Vicki started in with the Deuteronomy bible quotes - I'm sure he was thinking "how much are they paying me to deal with this crap?"  

I lucked out.  I had my last one at 45 or 46.

I do appreciate that Shannon is aging like a regular person.  Tamra may need a bit more body fat to soften her face.  Maybe Vicki can give her some of hers.

[Cherrio]

4 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

18 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

Why is Steve with Vicki?  Why?

Hmmmmm, what do you think ?  Lol.  Her “love tank” that’s why.

Nah, she is buying him stuff, taking him to her cheesy condo in Mexico and probably letting him live rent free.   He is just a slightly better class con than Crooks.

[Juneau Gal]

My husband has AFIB and I know everyone is different, but there seems to be something more happening cardiac-wise with Eddie than just AFIB. Ablation very often does not work. I wish him well and hope he finds the proper treatment to maintain his health. 

Vicki, on the other hand, I wish no well to. What I do wish is that a Kelly had kept it together enough to articulate to Vicki that Michael dating was not the problem. The problem was Vicki, her “friend”, going on multiple double dates with her ex-husband.......and keeping it a secret. How is that EVER the right thing to do?! Felt bad for Kelly and I hope someone can get this message through Vicki’s thick head. GAH!

[Gem 10]

4 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

lucked

 

5 minutes ago, Cherrio said:

Nah, she is buying him stuff, taking him to her cheesy condo in Mexico and probably letting him live rent free.   He is just a slightly better class con than Crooks.

I’m surprised.  I thought he was classier than that.  I just started watching again so I don’t know too much about him.  

[Pretty5Vacant]

19 hours ago, bosawks said:

In my head I always think “I thought turkeys could fly” when soLorettalabradomeone says “As god is my witness”....

RIP Mr. Carlson.

"This is Les Nessman"

[Mu Shu]

16 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

Hmmmmm, what do you think ?  Lol.  Her “love tank” that’s why.

He’d be better off shelling out 5k for a Real Doll.  I can’t imagine there are that many people out there wanting to get with Vicki.  I think the guy is retired (former cop?) and has time on his hands, and the Bravo bucks are the draw.  I mean, you can get sex anywhere and he’s not ugly.  

[Cherrio]

2 minutes ago, Juneau Gal said:

Felt bad for Kelly and I hope someone can get this message through Vicki’s thick head. GAH!

True story which I have never ever told but will to prove there is no way to get thru to Vicki. She is dumb and ignorant.

Back in the first season, she is driving with Brianna talking about her Asian clients. She used the C word in describing them.

I emailed her and told her how she should never use racial slurs and that I wouldn't be surprised if all her Asian clients fired her.  She emails back and says she did nothing wrong.    I email her again and tell her she indeed did do something wrong.  She emails again and say she did not.

I then blocked her because I knew she was just another ignorant fool.   Weeks later, apparently Bravo or someone in power MADE her apologize. Of course it was the start of her non-apologies.

She clearly had NO CLUE what she did was wrong. Even after I am sure countless people tried to make her understand, her brain riddled with illness and countless personality disorders prevents her from comprehending.

 She is a cockroach.

[Gem 10]

3 minutes ago, Mu Shu said:

He’d be better off shelling out 5k for a Real Doll.  I can’t imagine there are that many people out there wanting to get with Vicki.  I think the guy is retired (former cop?) and has time on his hands, and the Bravo bucks are the draw.  I mean, you can get sex anywhere and he’s not ugly.  

That’s what I thought when I first saw him.  A retired cop, not bad looking, seems smart, etc.  maybe he just puts on a blindfold and ear plugs, then does what he has to do, lol.  And, collect the Bravo check, plus his pension.  Haha.

[HunterHunted]

@Cherrio good for you. Vicki is a repellent excuse for a human.

[Cherrio]

13 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

@Cherrio good for you. Vicki is a repellent excuse for a human.

Thank you.     

[sasha206]

Are we supposed to believe lawyer's husband who proposed during a Google chat is really a heterosexual?   

[Misslindsey]

Everyone here has articulated so well all the reasons I hate Vicki. I am not sure how to describe it, but during this episode the strange, sort of baby talk that Vicki used during her Eddie apology drove me crazy.

[Cherrio]

30 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

That’s what I thought when I first saw him.  A retired cop, not bad looking, seems smart, etc.  maybe he just puts on a blindfold and ear plugs, then does what he has to do, lol.  And, collect the Bravo check, plus his pension.  Haha.

I am sure someone here knows the details, but I seem to remember him running or trying to run for public office and there were some charges or accusations. 

At any rate, anyone who would be with Vicki is a nut or a con.

Probably has very poor eyesight too.  Who would even walk with her?  Anyone else notice she walks like she had an accident, a big accident.

[snarts]

10 hours ago, poeticlicensed said:

I think that they need to recruit housewives who are older and have older kids. I don't want to hear about how the husbands of the ones with toddlers,are going to cope when mommy goes on a girls trip. Bleh. 

This, and can they also have money?  This was supposed to be a look behind the gates of the extremely wealthy (or those living way beyond their means in order to appear wealthy).  The new chick lives in a tract home and is raising three toddlers.  Who the hell wants to watch that?

10 hours ago, Jel said:

Second most shocking thing is that Shannon still gets her period.

That was all their suitcases, I just assumed the tampons were for the girls.  Didn't Shannon get hormone therapy for her menopause/weight gain last season?

[Mu Shu]

23 minutes ago, Misslindsey said:

Everyone here has articulated so well all the reasons I hate Vicki. I am not sure how to describe it, but during this episode the strange, sort of baby talk that Vicki used during her Eddie apology drove me crazy.

Vicki has two ways to deal with men-Bitchy fish wife scold and little girl.  She always plays little girl with men who won’t take her shit.  Right now, she’s the fishwife with Steve.  That won’t last.

[StatisticalOutlier]

4 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Exactly! I never much cared for Eddie, I always thought he was using Tamra for her HW money, gym, etc. but he was so cool and calm with Vicki and even with Tamra. He was basically saying I'll forgive you, bitch, if only for Tamra, but it 's going to take a long time and let's be clear, I'm watching you! 

I was disappointed that Vicki got more than a "Thank you.  I'll think about it."  But looking at it through your eyes, I'm okay with what he did.

[Baltimore Betty]

The HW whose husband high tails it to North LA every week...that house looks like she ran thru Homegoods to furnish a house that they are renting for the show, everything looked too new and staged, lit candles on the bed with kids running around? 

Something is there, something is off but I cannot put my finger on it.

New HW attorney, that prom jewelry she wore to dinner with her husband looked like she borrowed it from Vicki's prom jewelry collection.  The dress looked painful to wear and it took a lot of concentration to keep in place.

Kelly's new place is nice, needs some updates but I'd be happy living there.  

Tamara's new house will probably be amazing but why do these women feel the need to get in to expensive properties, Bravo checks will end eventually.

Vicki and her tearful bible verse apology, haven't we've seen a lot of apologies over the years? Rinse and repeat.  Now cut to Vicki running the streets of some town screaming Andele, Andele!

[AnnA]

1 hour ago, HunterHunted said:

@Cherrio good for you. Vicki is a repellent excuse for a human.

I agree!

Well done @cherrio

There are so many things wrong with Vicki that it would be difficult to list them all.  I'm not sure if I like Kelly or not because I like Shannon so much.    Hopefully, those two will remain friends.   I felt so bad for Kelly last night.    Vicki just doesn't understand how she hurt her friend.   

What's the deal with Kelly's house/apartment?    The spiral staircase to get to it was odd.  It would be OK if it's how you got upstairs to a bedroom but it seemed like it was the entrance to her house which I think is an apartment or a condo. 

[Showthyme]

I finally remembered where I saw Emily's necklace....a six year-old dress-up play kit. I can see her wearing the plastic shoes. I wonder if her husband even owns a suit jacket. What is going on in Emily's legal career to make her want to become a Housewife? Is Emily the Phaedra Parks of RHOC? 

No more scenes of Housewives chasing small children. Briana's children are the exception because I want to know why Briana is now living on the East Coast. I will watch a few scenes with Owen if Briana will spill the tea.

Vicki's plastic surgeon needs to cut her off or she will be the next contestant on Botched.

Shannon is incapable of being happy. 

[AnnA]

It's early but so far I don't like the two new HWs.

I guess the days of house porn in the OC are over.   Vicki is the only one with a really nice house and property now.  Maybe we can get them to bring back Heather. M

[Chit Chat]

4 hours ago, BodhiGurl said:

I guess my response to seeing him drinking a martini was not off - I thought it was really odd, given his health problems, that he would be drinking booze... Not something to mess with. 

Since he was getting ready to face Vicki, maybe he thought it was worth the risk!  :)   

14 minutes ago, AnnA said:

What's the deal with Kelly's house/apartment?    The spiral staircase to get to it was odd.  It would be OK if it's how you got upstairs to a bedroom but it seemed like it was the entrance to her house which I think is an apartment or a condo. 

I was thinking the same thing.  That would be a bitch to climb everyday, especially with groceries and other items in your hands.  I've always thought spiral staircases were pretty, but I'd never actually want one.  She probably lives in a condo that's chopped up weirdly.  Kind of like some the ones we see in NYC on the real estate shows.  The way Kelly welcomed Vicki, I was under the impression that it was the main entrance.  

I'm okay with the new HWs.  As always, I reserve the right to change my mind if they turn into assholes!  Oh, Emily.  That was the wrong time and place to bring up wanting another kid.  Way to ruin that celebration!  

[biakbiak]

11 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

That would be a bitch to climb everyday, especially with groceries and other items in your hands.  I've always thought spiral staircases were pretty, but I'd never actually want one.  She probably lives in a condo that's chopped up weirdly.  Kind of like some the ones we see in NYC on the real estate shows.  The way Kelly welcomed Vicki, I was under the impression that it was the main entrance.  

There is definitely another enterance, Jolie comes in through the an outside door into the kitchen in one of the scenes which might have been last week.

[Thumper]

There is definitely some shady/unethical behavior by Vicki's new BF.  Read it here maybe last season?

The little kids don't bother me.  I am more bothered by Bravo showing pre-teens and teens who are in the midst of being ... well, teenagers ... and might regret that being shown on TV later on.

[ladle]

2 hours ago, Gem 10 said:

Hmmmmm, what do you think ?  Lol.  Her “love tank” that’s why.

Is that slang for her bank account?

[poeticlicensed]

11 hours ago, Jel said:

I thought she was 55-56, but Googled and discovered she is 54.

Average age of menopause = 51.

The shock stays ;)

I didn't hit menopause until I was 54, but starting at 51, I was literally insane with symptoms, like sweating, itching, insomnia, weight gain over nothing . My period was super heavy, then I'd skip 2 months, it was worse than being a teen. If Shannon is still getting her period, then she is probably in perimenopause and her doctor is regulating her with hormones. I'm 99% sure her periods are not like that of a 30 year old. Between perimenopause and her divorce, no wonder she's a basket case. 

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

Oh Vicki, you were doing so well there for one hot second. WTF is she thinking going out with Kelly's ex and new gf? Never change Vix. 

[dosodog]

Edward.

     You let me down last night.  I really hoped you would have said no to the apology. 

     Once.  You were in the top 5 of RH husbands. Now?  For at least the next week.  You are dead last.  

     That's right.  Behind Stephanie and Brandi's husbands from Dallas.  And PK.  PK Helmsley.  From Beverly Hills.

 I'm so disappointed with you,

Dosodog 

[Gem 10]

7 hours ago, BodhiGurl said:

LOL - I laugh with you - my "friend" showed up this AM. Right. On. Time. I'm 48.5, my friends are going through the change or have - and here I am... right. on. time. UGH. I know there is a benefit to still having it regularly, but... yeah... just start being a day or two later each month... mmmkay? Ha ha... Add me to the list of surprised folks that Shannon still gets her cycle at 54.

 

ETA: Reading some of the latter posts of folks getting their cycle well into their 50's - oh my... I must know a few exceptions to the rule, with women ending their periods b4 they hit 50... I had some light at the end of the tunnel - now that tunnel is further away. But again, I presume I will appreciate the benefits of still getting a regular period for however it decides to last... sigh. ;) 

There is a benefit of having your “ friend”.  When it ends for the month, you feel a relief.  I am over my friend many years, but SWEAR I still have PMS.  Truly, I’m not kidding.  Every damn 10th of the month, I feel sick with headache, aches, cramps, tired, no energy, and just want to lie down.  My Dr. thinks I’m nuts, but I know my body, and no one can tell me it isn’t so.  This crummy feeling lasts for about one week, every month.  Oh, and I get very crabby and get the jitters.  LOVELY.  Good Luck.  Lol

[AnnA]

1 hour ago, Baltimore Betty said:

The HW whose husband high tails it to North LA every week...that house looks like she ran thru Homegoods to furnish a house that they are renting for the show, everything looked too new and staged, lit candles on the bed with kids running around? 

Something is there, something is off but I cannot put my finger on it.

 

I don't remember where it was posted or who posted it but I read that they're getting divorced.

45 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

There is definitely another enterance, Jolie comes in through the an outside door into the kitchen in one of the scenes which might have been last week.

Thanks.   I didn't see that.

Edited July 25, 2018 by AnnA

[Bronzedog]

I hope there's another entrance to Kelly's condo.  With the way she drinks, she could easily do a nose dive down that spiral staircase.

[Pretty5Vacant]

22 hours ago, Wicked said:

I think the New York housewife could be fun, she actually relancomeminds me of Brianna. They have the same kind of wide eyed smile.

It would of been funny if one of the ladies would  pointed that out to Vic that Gina resembled  (YOUNGER) daughter

[SuprSuprElevated]

12 hours ago, ghoulina said:

I don't care how many kids she has. She miscarried twins at 4 months. That's fucking devastating for anyone. 

Totally!  

[lamujerdecente]

Watch Miss reformed douchenozzle bigot asshat aka Vicki be a jerk to the new girls. Again. 

Unless this woman gets hit on the head every scene she is in this season, what’s her value?

There is no one on this franchise worse than her than maybe Theresa G.

she can’t dress

she’s  stupid

she’s  a bigot 

she is unattractive 

she’s not funny or witty 

she’s humorless 

she’s immature 

she has no love in her life that she isn’t buying

she isn’t rich

her House is tacky 

why? Why?

Even Ramona is slightly more useful.

ramona singer. 

Edited July 25, 2018 by lamujerdecente