S08.E29: Trouble in Paradise

[druzy]

Leah and Kailyn vacation together in Hawaii.

Chelsea and Aubree meet up with Taylor and Adam’s younger daughter, Paislee.

Nathan and Barbara unite over concerns about Kaiser.

Briana heads to her surgery, but receives an unexpected visitor.

[druzy]

Previews: 

Don't be an Instagram dad. While in Hawaii, Kailyn gets a text from Chris asking to see their son.

Leah opens up to Kailyn about Ali being bullied by kids at school.

Briana and Javi confront each other about their grievances, including Javi's decision to go on Kailyn's podcast.

Chelsea and Cole bring their family to catch up with Taylor (Adam's ex) and Adam's daughter Paislee.

[configdotsys]

I presume Briana's ass in the Javi/Briana clip above is pre-surgery? Her ass in that clip is absolutely grotesque.

[Rebecca]

4 hours ago, configdotsys said:

I presume Briana's ass in the Javi/Briana clip above is pre-surgery? Her ass in that every clip is absolutely grotesque.

Fixed that for ya. ?To think, she did...that on purpose!

[lovesnark]

I just noticed there is no mention of the swamp things in this week's previews. ??

[smhjess]

4 hours ago, Rebecca said:

Fixed that for ya. ?To think, she did...that on purpose!

Not quite.  She like Kail and so many other reality stars went and got BBL that looks good only at a certain weight.  The minute they gained weight with pregnancy it blew out of proportion and looked like a diaper.  Bri wanted what she had pre baby.

[druzy]

Briana feels awkward that Javi is in Miami yet she's fine with her surgery being posted on SnapChat. 

Edited July 17, 2018 by druzy

[TexasGal]

Kail and Leah even make Hawaii look boring.

Of all the losers on this show, Nathan somehow manages to have awkward/inappropriate conversations in a way that Kaiser can’t hear.  I don’t know how to feel about this.  I’m sure he will use up any good will he just built up soon enough. 

[Quilty]

Leah always seems so uncomfortable around Kail. She's not a hard core mean girl like Kail and Briana. 

[VioletNevermind]

Man.  I’m as much of a curious voyeur as anyone who watches reality TV, but these heifers are sitting in that car in front of the whole world, discussing poor little Allie’s gradual deterioration from a condition that will almost certainly lead to her early demise.  I’m sorry, but this is beyond private and it’s way past time this show ended, if only for this reason.  It’s just disgusting.  

Oh, and I hate Kail and Javi is the Super-Official Thirst King (just made that up!).

[Rebecca]

1 hour ago, smhjess said:

Not quite.  She like Kail and so many other reality stars went and got BBL that looks good only at a certain weight.  The minute they gained weight with pregnancy it blew out of proportion and looked like a diaper.  Bri wanted what she had pre baby.

I’m aware. It never looked good on her, imo. It always looked ridiculous and too large. 

[FlowerofCarnage]

My favorite moments from that tea spilling session between Barb and Nathan:

• Nathan calling Jenelle out on the fact that she is human tofu. When she was with him, she was a gym rat now she is with Lurch, it's guns and country living.
• Barb's calendars detailing Jenelle's neglect.  I wonder if they were the deciding factor in Jenelle's lawyer advising her to settle with Barb because she has non-existent case. Lol

Kail and her friend just looked dirty this whole trip. Like they reek of patchouli and funk! 

I know it's mean but I got a kick out of how Chris goes out of his way to avoid having to speak to Kail. 

So did Kail's trip and Bri's surgery occur around the same time because that would explain why Javi was so hellbent on playing Nurse Sceentime. Couldn't film with Kail so he forces himself into Briana's segments.

I doubt that video Paisley made was her idea.

That poor horse!

[Mkay]

2 minutes ago, FlowerofCarnage said:

My favorite moments from that tea spilling session between Barb and Nathan:

• Nathan calling Jenelle out on the fact that she is human tofu. When she was with him, she was a gym rat now she is with Lurch, it's guns and country living.
• Barb's calendars detailing Jenelle's neglect.  I wonder if they were the deciding factor in Jenelle's lawyer advising her to settle with Barb because she has non-existent case. Lol

Kail and her friend just looked dirty this whole trip. Like they reek of patchouli and funk! 

I know it's mean but I got a kick out of how Chris goes out of his way to avoid having to speak to Kail. 

So did Kail's trip and Bri's surgery occur around the same time because that would explain why Javi was so hellbent on playing Nurse Sceentime. Couldn't film with Kail so he forces himself into Briana's segments.

I doubt that video Paisley made was her idea.

That poor horse!

Kail tweeted the surgery happened in January and her and Leah’s trip is March. 

(Jack was meant to be Javi) 

Edited July 17, 2018 by Mkay

[Linny]

Wow, Kaiser absolutely lit up when he saw Nathan; I can't recall him ever looking so joyous to see David. Regardless of everything that transpired between Nathan and Barb in the past, I think it's good that they're staying in communication about Kaiser's well-being. Keeping tabs and comparing notes is the best resource they've got against David and Jenelle.

It was sweet that Chelsea arranged a playdate between Aubree and her half-sister, and I hope that in the future she'll be more diligent about letting them spend time together. Just because Adam is a worthless absent father doesn't mean these girls should be robbed of a sibling relationship. 

Javi is a real piece of work, bitching about "betrayal" and being "owed an apology" from Briana, and at the same time telling her he's got another girl waiting in the wings willing to give him everything Briana won't. That's such a dirty manipulative threat, and it speaks to how little respect he has for both women that he's okay with playing them like that. I think sometimes I let the fact that Javi's a good dad blind me to the fact he's kind of an asshole, but my eyes are open now.

Leah was sitting on that stunning Hawaiian beach talking about Ali's really serious issues, and then there was Kail, looking like the world's smelliest mermaid. It's hard for me to care about Kail's stress over Chris when Leah is navigating her daughter's health crisis. Kail's baby-daddy issues are entirely of her own creation, whereas Leah's daughter will struggle her entire life with a disorder that is completely outside of anyone's control. Kail really needs some perspective to recognize that her problems are small potatoes compared to what Leah's facing.

[woodscommaelle]

41 minutes ago, FlowerofCarnage said:

patchouli and funk! 

Good name for a head shop/record store.

What surgery did Shirley get?  

Edited July 17, 2018 by woodscommaelle

[FairyDusted]

Storming! Cable out. Pissed.

[WhosThatGirl]

Say what you will about Leah at times but the scenes of her talking about Ali’s issues compared to Kail complaining about Chris.. whatever, kail.. stop talking.

Watching little Aubree yeah Pailsey how to bowl made me smile and melted my heart.

Edited July 17, 2018 by WhosThatGirl

[Caseysgirl]

First time I have seen Nova laughing and playing was tonight with her father. She needed an escape from all the estrogen!

[VioletNevermind]

26 minutes ago, FlowerofCarnage said:

Kail and her friend just looked dirty this whole trip. Like they reek of patchouli and funk!

So did Kail's trip and Bri's surgery occur around the same time because that would explain why Javi was so hellbent on playing Nurse Sceentime. Couldn't film with Kail so he forces himself into Briana's segments.

So much gold here!  “Nurse Screentime!”  

[Christina]

Typically, I follow along live tweets while watching Dateline. Tonight, it became too much to try and weed through tweets, with Tweetdeck actually crashing when I tried to just watch the Dateline hashtag (if you're fortunate enough to be scratching your head why, it's a political bitchfest on social media). So, I came to see if this episode was worth watching and it has barely any comments, so I guess not. I suppose some are probably following the political situation, but I I'm still surprised by the little amount of posts.

I'll come back tomorrow morning and there will be ten pages of posts I can catch up on, like what happens every week on 90 Day Fiance. It's such a hard life I lead, I'm going to see if Kail will let me join her "Poor Me Club." Unless the uniform requires clothing that is two sizes (at least) too small with size zero shorts, because otherwise I'll just sit here and pout. Putting up with her will be bad enough.

[jacksgirl]

I remember when I would read posts right after the show and there would be 3 pages, now not even a full one. Is the TM2 Gravy Train about ready to pull out of the station? I know as the children grow older it's time to stop filming them.

[blueorchid]

This season has been BOOOORING. I blame Briana. Why did they add her to the show again? 

Nathan is not articulate. I think he lies a lot and is an idiot, but is still a better parent than Jenelle, (as if that's hard.)

Whenever I start to like Leah, I remember that she too is an idiot who basically gave her twins the same name.

Didn’t feel like watching the Hawaiian vacation montage. I'm absolutely not into the whole kail-javi-briana triangle. I don’t care who sky dives and gets plastic surgery.

As for Chelsea, I guess it was nice of her to get Aubree and Adam’s other kid together, but I remember when the other girl was born and she was basically against it. She “didn’t want Aubree to have a sibling.” I see you, Chelsea.

[smhjess]

1 hour ago, Rebecca said:

I’m aware. It never looked good on her, imo. It always looked ridiculous and too large. 

I am not a fan of the look in general, but I did not absolutely hate hers.  Kail’s I hated the day she got done since it added 30 lbs to her frame IMO. I don’t hate Britney’s that much either.

[Mkay]

1 hour ago, FairyDusted said:

Storming! Cable out. Pissed.

It was boring to me. It didn’t keep my attention.  :/

[heatherchandler]

Kail: “you’re LITERALLY watching your child deteriorate in front of your eyes”

(resumes texting)

[Stusan]

That. Was. So. BORING.

This post right here is more interesting than the entirety of that episode.

Didn't they tease us last week that Janelle's road rage incident was going to be this week? And now it's next week? Or not? This felt like filler.

[Emkat]

Just fuck these bitches and their Hawaii vacation.

Normal people working jobs and raising kids and living a regular life are unlikely to ever get there. 

Yes; I'm jealous of that. But it's the truth. And they have done nothing to deserve it and don't seem to appreciate it at all. 

[lilmarysunshine]

1 hour ago, heatherchandler said:

Kail: “you’re LITERALLY watching your child deteriorate in front of your eyes”

(resumes texting)

I know! I came here to say the same thing. Her “friend” is telling them about Corey struggling with their daughter’s terminal condition and Kail cannot put the effing phone down?! At least Leah had the friend’s attention.

I was genuinely happy to see Nathan and Barbara getting along and Nathan actually being sweet to her with the comment about how small she was. She knew he was full of it but he meant it to be kind, I think.

[eskimo]

Javi reminded me of every cliched salesman.  'We better hurry and make this deal because someone else called about this car earlier and are on their way down here right now'.  Javi fell below Briana on my personal ratings scale, and that's saying something.

It must be so good for Nova to spend time with Devoin like that, rather than sitting in Bri's living room full of people watching and judging their interactions.  Hopefully this opens a door for Nova to know the other side of her family.  She was really enjoying herself. 

[zenme]

1 hour ago, lilmarysunshine said:

I know! I came here to say the same thing. Her “friend” is telling them about Corey struggling with their daughter’s terminal condition and Kail cannot put the effing phone down?! At least Leah had the friend’s attention.

I was genuinely happy to see Nathan and Barbara getting along and Nathan actually being sweet to her with the comment about how small she was. She knew he was full of it but he meant it to be kind, I think.

I noticed Kailyn's disinterest wrt to Leah's situation with Ali in the previews, and I thought "Surely this is just the editing..." but alas, I was wrong. That woman has NO heart. 

 

 

Nathan: "Guess what I got finally finalized!"

Oh, Nathan. You sure are pretty though.

Edited July 17, 2018 by zenme

[Mkay]

1 hour ago, Stusan said:

That. Was. So. BORING.

This post right here is more interesting than the entirety of that episode.

Didn't they tease us last week that Janelle's road rage incident was going to be this week? And now it's next week? Or not? This felt like filler.

It was posted that it will air the 23rd. Someone must have jumped ahead on their guide but the date definitely said 23rd. 

[Bridget]

It hurts my soul to say anything nice about her,  but I'm glad Kail asked Leah about joining support groups and meeting other parents who are going through the same thing she is.

Of course Leah hasn't done jack shit about finding support groups for parents, but she's "thought about it." How's that working out for you, Leah? She's had how many years to get involved in groups, meetings and/or social gatherings for parents of kiddos with MD, but hasn't even done that because she's too busy taking "make-up free selfies" to post as she fishes for compliments.

$100 says she's never even read a book about MD. I know damn well that Dr. Tsao's office probably has loads of suggested reading materials, contact #s for support groups and other direct instructions, including rule #1: make sure your kiddo uses their wheelchair! 2nd graders do not know what's best for them!

Every time I see Leah carry Ali to the car, it pisses me off. I know it's easier to carry Ali than to use the wheelchair at the bus stop or during a swap with Corey, but if Ali cannot even manage a short walk to the car, isn't that a sign that she's overly tired and needs to use her wheelchair at school? What's going to happen when Ali weighs more or if Leah hurts her back?

There was a photo posted on Leah's thread (I think) of Corey & his family. Guess who was in her wheelchair? I was so damn happy to have seen that photo. I feel like Corey gets it 1,000 times more than Leah ever will. I also cannot help but feel like Ali (and her quality of life) would be ten times better off living with Corey & Miranda than with Leah.

Edited July 18, 2018 by Bridget

[elsie]

Hearing Nova giggle while she was playing with her dad in the park was just the best.

 

Listening to the phone call between Leah and Corey regarding Ali gave me such a feeling of dread that even now, hours after the episode aired , I still can't shake it.

 

It's kind of hard to have sympathy for Kail and her bitching about Chris. He may in fact come up short in his parenting skills, but I think my husband and I spent more time vetting the man who does our yard work than she did in with who (whom?) she wanted to create a child with.

 

Leah has beautiful eyes. Particularly when she dials back all the crap she usually puts on them.

 

Kail looked rough this episode. I'm down for not spending your adventure vacation time worrying about hair and makeup, but...wow

 

If I got the phone call that Nathan did  on the mini golf course I would lose my shit. As I watched that scene I was wrapping presents for my daughter's  birthday tomorrow, her dad playing pokemon with her in the room adjacent to me- I just can't imagine Kaiser's reality. Is it at all possible for him to make it out of this mess as a happy, autonomous adult?

 

I wonder what it was like watching tonight for Javi's new woman. Way to make a girl feel special!

Edited July 17, 2018 by elsie

[Mr. Miner]

8 hours ago, blueorchid said:

I don’t care who sky dives and gets plastic surgery.

Well you missed the first documented sighting of a Sasquatch in Hawaii. The crazy part is the Sasquatch was skydiving while staring at a fucking cellphone the whole time. 

Edited July 17, 2018 by Mr. Minor

[luvbadtv]

The mental health of Kaiser & Jace is at risk for so many reasons.  They need to stop filming those boys!

[ghoulina]

It was very cool of Chelsea and Taylor to get Aubree and Paislee together. I hope they make an effort to do that more often. Aubree teaching Paislee how to bowl was just adorable. She's a natural big sister. 

 

I yawned through most of Kail's Hawaii trip. All that stunning scenery was ruined by her Mother Russia ass. 

How nice of her to complain that Chris's family sent Lux back with nothing, though. Considering last time she complained about what they DID send him with. Can't win with that whale. 

And who the fuck was her friend that had an opinion on everything, including Leah's situation? I wanted to smack that intrusive bitch. 

It broke my heart to hear that Ali is getting teased by kids, and that they're teasing her TO her sister. They need to keep Gracie in therapy. Being the TWIN sibling of a special needs kid cannot be easy. 

 

Javi and Bri were boring as well. He's fucking nuts. Bri is a trash box, but I'd run from Javi Marroquin. He breaks it off, then shows up at your surgery anyhow, and threatens with other chicks who ARE ready to move to DE. Boy, bye. 

 

Ummmm, was that Jamie chick legally ALLOWED to pick up Kaiser? Or drop him off, whatever....? Because I thought it was supposed to be just Jenelle and Nathan. Then significant others got involved, then grandparents. Now random friends I've never seen before. Pretty soon Jenelle will just call an Uber and put Kai in the car by himself. 

Also, why doesn't Nathan ride WITH his mom, instead of taking two separate vehicles? These people confuse the fuck out of me. 

Speaking of Nathan, was that call from Barb a re-enactment? Because if *I* was hearing about my child being spanked for peeing when he was denied the privilege of going to the bathroom, I'd fly off the fucking handle. He seemed so blase about it. His girlfriend was crying, but all he could do was offer a generic - "we'll keep fighting". I can tell you this, MY husband was in a situation like that? He'd kidnap his own fucking kid and never look back. 

[penbrat]

9 hours ago, blueorchid said:

 

As for Chelsea, I guess it was nice of her to get Aubree and Adam’s other kid together, but I remember when the other girl was born and she was basically against it. She “didn’t want Aubree to have a sibling.” I see you, Chelsea.

I give Chelsea credit for growing up since then.  She seems to have her head screwed on straight and her priority has always been her daughter.    Leah best watch out. Javi may be making a run at her for his next "love interest" so he has some reason to stay on the show.

[ghoulina]

10 hours ago, Caseysgirl said:

First time I have seen Nova laughing and playing was tonight with her father. She needed an escape from all the estrogen!

Nova should absolutely have more time with Devoid. I bet he was enjoying himself more as well, out in the fresh air and not having every move scrutinized in that tiny apartment. He definitely has been a slouch and a deadbeat, but it's almost a self-fulfilling prophecy with those shrews. 

 

7 hours ago, eskimo said:

Javi reminded me of every cliched salesman.  'We better hurry and make this deal because someone else called about this car earlier and are on their way down here right now'.  Javi fell below Briana on my personal ratings scale, and that's saying something.

YES! I couldn't put my finger on the vibe he was giving off, but that was totally it. I was once looking at rentals a guy just as thirsty as Javi was putting so much pressure on me, I walked out of my dream home and never looked back. If you have to try that hard, there's got to be something wrong. 

[Blissfool]

7 hours ago, lilmarysunshine said:

 

I was genuinely happy to see Nathan and Barbara getting along and Nathan actually being sweet to her with the comment about how small she was. She knew he was full of it but he meant it to be kind, I think.

Nathan is with kind words what David is with fighting words....all kinds of awkward. I don't want to insult the girlfriend, but comparing her to a piece of art that will net him a billion dollars...PLEASE!!

 

3 hours ago, elsie said:

 

Kail looked rough this episode. I'm down for not spending your adventure vacation time worrying about hair and makeup, but...wow

The only one that looks pretty without makeup is , dare I say, Jenelle.

 

40 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

 

Also, why doesn't Nathan ride WITH his mom, instead of taking two separate vehicles? These people confuse the fuck out of me. 

 

Why can't Kaiser ride with Nathan? (And btw I'm sure they break those "rules" when the cameras aren't there. Was nana at the mini golf course?)

[Pepper Mostly]

10 hours ago, Linny said:

Wow, Kaiser absolutely lit up when he saw Nathan; I can't recall him ever looking so joyous to see David. Regardless of everything that transpired between Nathan and Barb in the past, I think it's good that they're staying in communication about Kaiser's well-being. Keeping tabs and comparing notes is the best resource they've got against David and Jenelle.

It was sweet that Chelsea arranged a playdate between Aubree and her half-sister, and I hope that in the future she'll be more diligent about letting them spend time together. Just because Adam is a worthless absent father doesn't mean these girls should be robbed of a sibling relationship. 

Javi is a real piece of work, bitching about "betrayal" and being "owed an apology" from Briana, and at the same time telling her he's got another girl waiting in the wings willing to give him everything Briana won't. That's such a dirty manipulative threat, and it speaks to how little respect he has for both women that he's okay with playing them like that. I think sometimes I let the fact that Javi's a good dad blind me to the fact he's kind of an asshole, but my eyes are open now.

Leah was sitting on that stunning Hawaiian beach talking about Ali's really serious issues, and then there was Kail, looking like the world's smelliest mermaid. It's hard for me to care about Kail's stress over Chris when Leah is navigating her daughter's health crisis. Kail's baby-daddy issues are entirely of her own creation, whereas Leah's daughter will struggle her entire life with a disorder that is completely outside of anyone's control. Kail really needs some perspective to recognize that her problems are small potatoes compared to what Leah's facing.

A real smile on Kaiser's little face. I think it may be the first time I've ever seen one.

Javi. Jesus fucking Christ. Laying down his stupid rules about who should be playing nursemaid. Javi. Brianna owes you NOTHING. You guys broke up. You are over. You have no "right" to anything to do with her! What a fucking creep.

So, now Chris is trash. Got it. Kail remains spotless while her various baby daddies are consigned to the dumpster.

8 hours ago, Emkat said:

Just fuck these bitches and their Hawaii vacation.

Normal people working jobs and raising kids and living a regular life are unlikely to ever get there. 

Yes; I'm jealous of that. But it's the truth. And they have done nothing to deserve it and don't seem to appreciate it at all. 

Kail talks about jetting off to Hawaii the way most of  us talk about a trip to the mall. She is such a repellent hose beast. Does she feel no shame, face timing her kids as she lolls on a beach thousands of miles away from them? Lux is still an infant! She makes my blood boil.

[Mr. Miner]

So, is Lux staying with Bone and Quay? 

[FlowerofCarnage]

I knows laws differ by state but Nathan needs to look into filing a no contact against David. If Macy could obtain one based off of threatening text, hopefully, Nathan can obtain one too.  I say this because if Nathan is serious about getting Kai out if there, he  needs to play it smart.  If he can't  get a no contact, he needs to go back to court and have it specified that David not be present at pick ups or drop-offs, only the parents. He has to legally force their hand and give them enough rope to hang themselves. He also needs to follow  Barb's advice and document everything.  

[NickPappagiorgio]

Loved another one of Kail’s global lesbian housepeople hangers-on declaring Kail’s baby daddy to be trash. Um, three different baby daddies under 30 with the education of a spare tire. Not saying Chris isn’t trash because obviously he is, but all those hoes live in the dumpster.

Javi is crazy! Those eyes when he was talking to Bri and Shirley (poor Shirley! Learning the hard way that even free plastic surgery has a cost). These girls really do know how to pick ‘em. And I’m sure the girl he had chomping at the bit to move to Dover was a real prize. I picture some leg less science experiment being lowered by crane. 

And I kind of like Bri better without her gross hags orbiting her like moons and shutting down Javi’s bizarre nonsense. 

[Christina87]

Geeeez! I wonder what is going on at Javi's house right now. "I could settle but I don't want to. I have a girl who would move to Delaware for me, but you're the only one I feel this way for. I could fill that void with someone else but I don't want to." Way to make Lauren feel special! And in what world does he have stronger feelings for bri than anybody? Even though he and Kail didn't have the ideal marriage, he deeply loved her and was infatuated by her for a long time. So I call BS. I actually feel sorry for this lauren girl, because I'm sure javi was just telling her what she wanted to hear. Plus, this is her first pregnancy, and she's presumably been working and living a normal life, not popping out babies left and right like this crowd! I wouldn't feel as bad if she was another Jenelle or Kail, but it's GOT to suck to be on your first pregnancy and be humiliated on TV this way. 

Bri could not stop playing with the hair behind her bun, and it drove me craaaaazy!!!! Like, stop already!

i loved seeing Devoin play with Nova. I think there could be some hope for him if the coven wasn't so exasperating to be around.

I don't consider MTV a babysitting service, jenelle. They shouldn't be allowed to do drop offs for her, although unfortunately, that's probably the only way said drop offs will be civil. 

I loved Nathan and Kaiser light up around each other! I don't want to put too much hope in Nathan, but his girlfriend seems like a good influence, and maybe she could encourage him to stay on the straight and narrow. I bet Doris is praying they stay together! The way he told Kaiser that it was he rules he ride with Nana, but he would be riding right beside them was super sweet. He understands how kids think way better than Jenelle does! Nathan and babs was super entertaining, and they weren't wrong about anything! I love that babs has calendars going back to 2009. I wanted to high five Nathan when he said Jenelle changes her personality with every booooooyfriend. I think he has a good heart, and will always care for her in some way. Too bad that he had to suffer PTSD. I have the feeling he would be way different now if that had never happened. 

Aubree teaching Paislee to bowl was EVERYTHING. It could melt even the coldest of hearts! I feel like if Chelsea was anyone else, the fact that the girls hadn't seen each other in 4-5 months would be criticized, but Chelsea is Chelsea. However, taylor could pick up the phone too, and ultimately, they're both Adam's kids, and therefore his responsibility. He should care that they know they're both his kids, to the point where Paislee isn't asking if Cole is Aubree's dad. It doesn't sound like Chelsea or taylor has a good relationship with his parents either. And that, people, is why you don't knowingly procreate with a total asswad! Chelsea already knew what he was like when she (IMO) chose to get pregnant with him, and Taylor DEFINITELY decided to get pregnant by him WITH the information out there to the world that he is a horrible dad and person. Both seem like decent ladies, so it's a shame they are stuck with this. And I was thinking, taylor and Paislee were at Chelsea's wedding, which would have likely been 4-5 months before that. I wonder how long it's been since they've had a play date like this one! I still think Taylor and Paislee don't quite fit into Chelsea's familyyyyyyyy image, and she maybe sees them more like cousins in her mind. And again, ladies and gentlemen, that's what happens when you reproduce with an awful person. Even when you have moved on and found a family of your own, your life will be more complicated because of him.

kail was so annoying during the Hawaii trip! Leah reminded me of myself when I was a little girl at church, following around the "big girls," who were into more mischief than I was. She seems so much younger! I believe Leah has a kind heart, and would never be friends with Kail in real life. All of her friends, like Kayla and Victoria, seem kind too. I get the feeling that Kail feels like the typical childfree college student or recent graduate, completely entitled to go on trips with just her friends and have a good time. She seemed so comfortable, while Leah seemed to miss her kids the whole time. When Kail did talk about Lux, she was more bitching about Chris. That reminded me so much of college aged christina87, who was all into drama, and would have reveled in a juicy call about something my current love interest or ex had done wrong. Time to grow up, Kail! You are closing in on your late twenties, and are a mother of three. Not saying you can't have fun on vacation, but it was pretty evident to see how little she thought about her kids vs how much Leah did. I did like seeing Kail talk Leah into trying the skydiving, which was outside her comfort zone. We all need a friend who will do that!

Edited July 17, 2018 by Christina87

[Scarlett45]

37 minutes ago, Christina87 said:

BS. I actually feel sorry for this lauren girl, because I'm sure javi was just telling her what she wanted to hear. Plus, this is her first pregnancy, and she's presumably been working and living a normal life, not popping out babies left and right like this crowd! I wouldn't feel as bad if she was another Jenelle or Kail, but it's GOT to suck to be on your first pregnancy and be humiliated on TV this way. 

Agree. 

 

39 minutes ago, Christina87 said:

Aubree teaching Paislee to bowl was EVERYTHING. It could melt even the coldest of hearts! I feel like if Chelsea was anyone else, the fact that the girls hadn't seen each other in 4-5 months would be criticized, but Chelsea is Chelsea. However, taylor could pick up the phone too, and ultimately, they're both Adam's kids, and therefore his responsibility. He should care that they know they're both his kids, to the point where Paislee isn't asking if Cole is Aubree's dad. It doesn't sound like Chelsea or taylor has a good relationship with his parents either. And that, people, is why you don't knowingly procreate with a total asswad! Chelsea already knew what he was like when she (IMO) chose to get pregnant with him, and Taylor DEFINITELY decided to get pregnant by him WITH the information out there to the world that he is a horrible dad and person.

4-5 months is a bit of time since they both live in the same small town, BUT Chelsea and Taylor aren’t perfect. Taylor probably works and wants to spend her free time with her own family/friends/boyfriend (if she has one) and not spend her weekends with Chelsea and Aubree (and vice versa). They have both come a LONG way and are making an effort for the girls which the most important thing. Considering Adam is doing NOTHING at all for both girls to know each other the slack the Moms are picking up is noted. Maybe they can commit to something at least every other month so the girls can play, or Paislee can come over for sleepovers (since it’s known that Cole isn’t a creep or anything). 

[lilmarysunshine]

I think Chelsea had said they hadn't seen them in 4-5 months so probably at the wedding? 

Nathan can talk about having his charges dropped but he needs to realize that he needs to STAY out of trouble, too. Dude has as many mugshots as Jenelle. Though maybe he's working on anger since he didn't resort to rage when hearing about Kaiser's allegations regarding David?

So by this time was Javi's new baby mama already knocked up?  So far I've been one to think he was mostly Kail's victim but he really is shady AF.

I hope Devoin's outing with Nova has given him some confidence and that their time will result in more time. I swear some of these women make the guys feel so incompetent to take care of their own kids. I recognize they were usually deadbeats to start but when you treat someone like they're incapable of handling a 5/6 year old on their own, maybe they start to believe that. Though Devoin has basically been begging Briana for some time with Nova AWAY from the Coven. These hos love to have control over their kids, though, to exert some control over their exes.

[monagatuna]

Was that...actual emotion from Briana when discussing Javi's side piece? I'm not sure how to feel about it, I guess I just never thought we'd see it. It takes a lot to get me feeling sympathetic for Briana, good job, Javi.

I actually enjoyed the Hawaii scenes, mostly because they were gorgeous, but also because of the skydiving. My partner and I scoured those scenes to see if we knew anyone, but the camera flyers work really hard to keep fun jumpers out of frame (because we're assholes who will no doubt ruin your special memories, even unintentionally), so we could only see the TI. Still, it was gorgeous. Reminded me of jumping in Costa Rica last year.

I enjoyed this episode a lot more and I think it's because we saw so little of Jenelle and none of David. Mind you, I was editing my own skydiving videos at the time and wasn't paying full attention, but it was pleasant. No coven, no Adam, no David, fun activities in a beautiful location. Let's have more of these.

[Christina87]

1 hour ago, Scarlett45 said:

Agree. 

 

4-5 months is a bit of time since they both live in the same small town, BUT Chelsea and Taylor aren’t perfect. Taylor probably works and wants to spend her free time with her own family/friends/boyfriend (if she has one) and not spend her weekends with Chelsea and Aubree (and vice versa). They have both come a LONG way and are making an effort for the girls which the most important thing. Considering Adam is doing NOTHING at all for both girls to know each other the slack the Moms are picking up is noted. Maybe they can commit to something at least every other month so the girls can play, or Paislee can come over for sleepovers (since it’s known that Cole isn’t a creep or anything). 

Yeah, I definitely agree! There are so many things I mean to do and people I mean to see, but there are only 24 hours in a day and sometimes things just get away from you! Too bad adam can't take responsibility for them seeing each other. Sleepovers are a great idea, and might help Aubree feel les left out when Watson gets a sibling about his age, and Cole and Chelsea have their hands full with babieeeeees in the house!

[Mkay]

4 hours ago, Mr. Minor said:

So, is Lux staying with Bone and Quay? 

Bone was being a Nanny at Kails House.  At one time Bone confirmed she was on the pay roll.  Now they are no longer friends. 

[CaliforniaLove]

What was Jenelle saying about David not being allowed to be around her because she was filming? Did I hear that correctly, because I could swear that the last we heard from her mouth was that he DID NOT get fired...so why would he not be allowed around the cameras Jenelle? Hmmmmm?