S10.E15: Wigging Out

[breezy424]

5 minutes ago, AnnA said:

Being sued for custody of your child is a big fucking deal.

As I understand it, it was Beth suing for custody,  not the other way around.

[Fiero425]

1 minute ago, BG-RealityBabbler said:

If anyone's trip was "ruined" by Bethenny's behavior that's on the individual - not Bethenny. If they choose to let her mood swings impact them, they have no one to blame but themselves. They can choose to ignore her. Besides, Luann and Sonja didn't seem bothered at all. Seems like Dorinda and Carole are having the most issues with it which is no surprise given they've been snarky about Bethenny all season.

Well what do you want them to do? A little while ago people were saying the ladies were terrible when they ignored Bethenny's yackin' on the floor, now some want to castigate them for being concerned about how Bethenny's doing; esp. with her break with Carole! I'm confused! ;-)

[Chit Chat]

3 minutes ago, chewycandy said:

while B’s problems are written all over hers...

Bethenny verbalizes her every thought.  I find it exhausting.  YMMV.

[BG-RealityBabbler]

1 minute ago, ChitChat said:

I understand that, but if she's that upset, maybe she should've stayed in NYC to deal with her move and all of the other stuff she has going on. 

I think the ladies pretty much have to go on the group trips - thus how Ramona went on the Mexico trip last year even tho we were lead to believe Bethenny had any choice in who went. I would imagine it's part of the contract to participate... 

[Fiero425]

2 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

As I understand it, it was Beth suing for custody,  not the other way around.

She's the one that's dragged this out trying to "have it all!" Jason has rights and she can't stand it! Why this man married her in the 1st place is beyond me! ;-)

[Mozelle]

6 minutes ago, BG-RealityBabbler said:

If anyone's trip was "ruined" by Bethenny's behavior that's on the individual - not Bethenny. If they choose to let her mood swings impact them, they have no one to blame but themselves. They can choose to ignore her. Besides, Luann and Sonja didn't seem bothered at all. Seems like Dorinda and Carole are having the most issues with it which is no surprise given they've been snarky about Bethenny all season.

So does Bethenny have no one to blame but herself that she's letting every blessed thing impact her mood?

(I suppose so.)

[Chit Chat]

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Being sued for custody of your child is a big fucking deal.

I think she was freaking out about the restraining order ending, or something along those lines.  Why work one's self into a tizzy at this particular moment?  IMO, it was another attempt at bringing the conversation and attention all back to her.  

Edited July 19, 2018 by ChitChat
correction on quote

[BG-RealityBabbler]

2 minutes ago, Fiero425 said:

Well what do you want them to do? A little while ago people were saying the ladies were terrible when they ignored Bethenny's yackin' on the floor, now some want to castigate them for being concerned about how Bethenny's doing; esp. with her break with Carole! I'm confused! ;-)

I'm saying them saying "the trip is ruined because Bethenny whatever whatever" is false - they allow it to be ruined. They can ignore her mood swings if it seems to be impacting their enjoyment of the trip. That's a little different than ignoring someone who is having allergic reactions to something they ate. 

Just now, Mozelle said:

So does Bethenny have no one to blame but herself that she's letting every blessed thing impact her mood?

(I suppose so.)

Yes.

[chewycandy]

1 minute ago, BG-RealityBabbler said:

I think the ladies pretty much have to go on the group trips - thus how Ramona went on the Mexico trip last year even tho we were lead to believe Bethenny had any choice in who went. I would imagine it's part of the contract to participate... 

Right, and did you catch when she was telling Dorinda she didn’t want to go back to Manhattan? The trip could have been a brief escape. 

[AnnA]

4 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

As I understand it, it was Beth suing for custody,  not the other way around.

Good for her!    I only knew it was a custody battle.   She told Dorinda about it tonight but it was hard to hear what she was saying.   A child should spend time with both parents but not have to live with both of them on a schedule.  What is it - every other week?    I'd fight that too.

[Jel]

10 minutes ago, BG-RealityBabbler said:

If anyone's trip was "ruined" by Bethenny's behavior that's on the individual - not Bethenny. If they choose to let her mood swings impact them, they have no one to blame but themselves. They can choose to ignore her. Besides, Luann and Sonja didn't seem bothered at all. Seems like Dorinda and Carole are having the most issues with it which is no surprise given they've been snarky about Bethenny all season.

Aww BG-RB, don't be expecting these ladies to be adults now. Come on! Be reasonable! ;)

[Duke2801]

10 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

I understand that, but if she's that upset, maybe she should've stayed in NYC to deal with her move and all of the other stuff she has going on.  I do sympathize with her, but she never shuts up about her problems!  I had some major shit go down years ago, and I had not a soul to confide in.  I put on a brave face, went to work each day, dealt with my crap on my own time, and eventually things worked out.  I'm just not the kind of person who can go on and on about my problems.  Bethenny is lucky to have so many people who will listen to her.  There comes a point though when people get tired of it, no matter how much they sympathize. 

Exactly. Or just not do a reality show at ALL if she’s going through that much stress. There’s a novel idea! 

Of course then we’d be deprived of her biting wit (like “what? You want me to give you a blow job?”), her random crying outburst, and her non-stop complaining. That would be quite a loss indeed. 

Edited July 19, 2018 by Duke2801

[absolutelyido]

44 minutes ago, lamujerdecente said:

BTW Miguel is my hero. He left Ramoana in the dust.

I know Ramona can ask for people to do outrageous things for her, but I'm kind of on her side on this one. Miguel and the other guy were introduced as the "House Butlers". It doesn't seem outrageous to ask a Butler to unpack your bags for you. I would think that would almost be expected. 

(I remember one time Southern Charm Patricia was all out of sorts because she had to pack her own bags for a trip because her Butler, Michael, was on vacation.)

[AnnA]

4 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

I think she was freaking out about the restraining order ending, or something along those lines.  Why work one's self into a tizzy at this particular moment?  IMO, it was another attempt at bringing the conversation and attention all back to her.  

Ah ha!   I didn't know there was a restraining order.   I don't think we can plan when we get into a tizzy.   Sometimes it's just happens. 

[Fiero425]

2 hours ago, AnnA said:

Good for her!    I only knew it was a custody battle.   She told Dorinda about it tonight but it was hard to hear what she was saying.   A child should spend time with both parents but not have to live with both of them on a schedule.  What is it - every other week?    I'd fight that too.

Even the judge was getting exasperated by Bethenny so she's the one that's made this so contentious IMO! I got nothing for her! If she had been reasonable early on, more than likely she'd have primary custodianship, but she was a hysterical mess and fk'd it up for herself! You know how bad you have to be for the guy to get any sympathy or consideration from a judge? lol! I can still remember in the heart of this thing when Bethenny was anorexic and posted a pic on social media of her in Brynn's PJ's; judge had to tell her to STOP! ;-(

Edited July 19, 2018 by Fiero425

[Martinigirl]

1 minute ago, Duke2801 said:

Exactly. Or just not do a reality show at ALL if she’s going through that much stress. There’s a novel idea! 

Where's the reality in that?

[Jel]

Bethenny is high strung; that's how she reacts to stuff. 

[Fiero425]

2 minutes ago, Jel said:

Bethenny is high strung; that's how she reacts to stuff. 

Which is why I say "cry me a river!" I yawn or laugh when she goes off like that! I lost all sympathy for her when she came up with that BS about being the wealthiest homeless person! It really pissed me off! She's just so unsympathetic and I have nothing for her! ;-)

Edited July 19, 2018 by Fiero425

[Martinigirl]

2 minutes ago, absolutelyido said:

I know Ramona can ask for people to do outrageous things for her, but I'm kind of on her side on this one. Miguel and the other guy were introduced as the "House Butlers". It doesn't seem outrageous to ask a Butler to unpack your bags for you. I would think that would almost be expected. 

(I remember one time Southern Charm Patricia was all out of sorts because she had to pack her own bags for a trip because her Butler, Michael, was on vacation.)

True! Their duties should also include shoe shining, pressing garments, etc. Ramona's not wrong....except when she doesn't give a gratuity.

[hoodooznoodooz]

Was I the only one who found Beth’s, “Praise the Lord!” slightly offensive?

[Fiero425]

Just now, hoodooznoodooz said:

Was I the only one who found Beth’s, “Praise the Lord!” slightly offensive?

Everything about Bethenny offends me these days! ;-)

[AnnA]

2 minutes ago, Fiero425 said:

Even the judge was getting exasperated by Bethenny so she's the one that's made this so contentious IMO! I got nothing for her! If she had been reasonable early on, more than likely she have primary custodianship, but she was a hysterical mess and fk'd it up for herself! You know how bad you have to be for the guy to get any sympathy from a judge? lol! ;-(

That's OK.   She's not expecting anything from you.   When I got divorced, my ex told me he wanted joint custody.  I told him I'd fight him for full custody until my dying breath.   He backed down.

If I had to fight for primary custody of my child, I'd be hysterical and likely exasperate a saint or two. 

3 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Was I the only one who found Beth’s, “Praise the Lord!” slightly offensive?

I thought it was funny

[Martinigirl]

3 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Was I the only one who found Beth’s, “Praise the Lord!” slightly offensive?

God, no!

[Fiero425]

3 minutes ago, AnnA said:

That's OK.   She's not expecting anything from you.   When I got divorced, my ex told me he wanted joint custody.  I told him I'd fight him for full custody until my dying breath.   He backed down.

If I had to fight for primary custody of my child, I'd be hysterical and likely exasperate a saint or two. 

Well at least you admit it and I can accept your feelings with nary a problem! Bethenny probably doesn't even see how "over the top" she can be! "It's my wit, my persona. my whatever..." She's FOS as usual! ;-)

Edited July 19, 2018 by Fiero425

[breezy424]

18 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

 

I don't know what happened but I quoted someone who quoted something I did not say.

15 minutes ago, AnnA said:

Good for her!    I only knew it was a custody battle.   She told Dorinda about it tonight but it was hard to hear what she was saying.   A child should spend time with both parents but not have to live with both of them on a schedule.  What is it - every other week?    I'd fight that too.

Sooo, why is one parent more deserving to have full custody than another when both of them love their child?

[Martinigirl]

Jason loves fighting with Bethenny more than he loves his child. 

[Fiero425]

1 minute ago, Martinigirl said:

Jason loves fighting with Bethenny more than he loves his child. 

...and visa versa! ;-)

[lamujerdecente]

i found the cocaine from almost all of them really offensive. I Apologize for the profanity but it really pissed me off. It was very ugly AMERICAN.  We in America these days are not in the position to be critical like that in other countries. It reeked of classism. Read a book.

Carole Is unfortunate looking AF. And she is a hypocrite. Like I said in my original post I remember her stupid comments "Its like Sonia Young." About Luanne. This was her pre Adam obsession days.

Luanne is  jerk a lot of the time but Carole has always had it in for her. I don't understand her fashion choices. Her bathing suit was cute and so was her shopping outfit. The Bey dress was hideous. And Carole You have no ass. 

I been Bethany. Iced out by chicks that were my friends. But I was 15. In high school.

And I didn't stand there with my puppet face wax puppet friend and mock an anorexic woman who had obviously relapsed.

Dorinda's sandals were hideous and didn't go with that dress AT ALL. I hate those sandals tho. Always have. They are not flattering.

Ramona's gut was on display with the dress in the elevator. Ramona spanx is the winos amiga. Get u some.

[chewycandy]

1 minute ago, lamujerdecente said:

Like I said in my original post I remember her stupid comments "Its like Sonia Young." About Luanne. This was her pre Adam obsession days.

Wait, I thought Luann said Sonya young about Carole and Adam?

[escatefromny]

I felt a little sympathy for Tinsley when she said her ex-husband had a disparaging nickname for her breasts.  Knowing she met him when she was very young makes it even sadder, she’s carried this around for a long time.  We hardly know her and I can think of a few comments she’s made about how she doesn’t like her body.

I’m sure Dale did most of the damage, but being put down by your long-time partner in that way couldn’t have helped.

[hoodooznoodooz]

2 minutes ago, chewycandy said:

Wait, I thought Luann said Sonya young about Carole and Adam?

I believe that you are correct. Lu said it about Carole: Adam.

18 minutes ago, AnnA said:

 

I thought it was funny

I thought it was offensive the way Lu’s “Diana Ross” costume was offensive.

[lamujerdecente]

4 minutes ago, chewycandy said:

Wait, I thought Luann said Sonya young about Carole and Adam?

I could have sworn it was carole. I know she said some things about Luanne. And she has always thrown her slut shame digs around. I could have misremembered. 

[AnnA]

10 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

 

Sooo, why is one parent more deserving to have full custody than another when both of them love their child?

 I'll speak for myself........because I carried my children  for nine months, labored, gave birth and nursed them.

[Ms Blue Jay]

12 minutes ago, escatefromny said:

I felt a little sympathy for Tinsley when she said her ex-husband had a disparaging nickname for her breasts.  

What an asshole he sounds like.

[Pickles]

Ramona had been on vacation with 20 of her great girlfriends. 20???!!! Who has that many great girlfriends?

[lamujerdecente]

I have never liked Bethany but Carole is really rubbing me the wrong way. She making me side

with  Bethany and I don't like it!

[breezy424]

11 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

Jason loves fighting with Bethenny more than he loves his child. 

How so?  Seriously.  I like you Martingirl.

In the context of this episode, Beth was the one suing for full custody.  Not Jason.

[Fiero425]

2 minutes ago, Pickles said:

Ramona had been on vacation with 20 of her great girlfriends. 20???!!! Who has that many great girlfriends?

Someone who's FAKE AF! Ramona's just not a real person with anyone! It's like she's holding court wherever she goes and that's why she couldn't help trying to attend Tom's party NY's! ;-)

Edited July 19, 2018 by Fiero425

[UsernameFatigue]

Interesting that after dinner the group split up according to whether they were dressed elegantly, or like they were dressed for some random ugly outfit party.  Ramona looked ridiculous, and Carole looked like she was channeling a turn of the century madam in a whorehouse. Maybe that is the look she was going for? She looked better in Hugh Heffner's PJs, and that is a pretty low bar. Sonja, Lu and Bethenny looked gorgeous. I loved Beth's dress, and though I don't wear dresses that one made me want to reconsider. 

Why do these women tell Dorinda anything? And I agree with Bethenny. I wouldn't want to stay in that house, even if it was for free. But then again, I hate busy noisy cities (and could also never live in NYC, so there is that) and if I were to go to any place remotely tropical the last place I would want to stay is in the middle of a city. 

I loved Lu's comment that the arrangement Scott sent Tins should have a dead body under it. Though I sometimes think the women send flowers to themselves (ala Vicki on RHoOC) we know for sure that Scott sent those, as no woman would send herself such an ugly arrangement. And apparently Scott can't count. They were broken up for at least 60 days of their first year, so he could have saved himself the price of 60 roses. (Assuming there was only one break up in their first year - there could have been more). Didn't Tins say that Scott gave her a diamond tennis bracelet for Christmas? So did she complain that she really wanted this one and that is why he has given her yet another bracelet in less than two months? (She said when she opened it that she had wanted one). And finally, why do these women (mostly RHoBH) not realize that they never look better when their "glam squad" gets through with them. I knew Tins was high maintenance, but this was ridiculous.

Edited July 19, 2018 by UsernameFatigue

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, ChitChat said:

You could tell by the look on their faces how exhausted they were with dealing with her never ending "woe is me, the sky is falling on me" routine.   How telling that she got up and walked away after Tinsley got the flowers and bracelet from Scott.  At least she admitted she was jealous.  But, damn, Bethenny.  You're the millionaire with your own company.  Why the eff are you jealous of anybody else?  

 

 

When Bethenny said that she wanted to be Tinsley, sitting on the back of a boat, traveling, and without a care in the world, I yelled at the TV - "You can!!!"  Bethenny's got more money than most, if not all, of these women, and probably more than two or three of them put together!  She can do whatever she wants - but, what she will never do whatever she wants because I don't think Bethenny knows what she wants out of life.  I think she's really a big fraud - she's not as tough as she wants everyone to think she is, with her brash language and tough girl talk.  I think she is really an insecure bundle of exposed nerve endings, and is often very close to a breakdown of some sort.  I also think that this is all self-made, because she doesn't know how to let things go, or accept that others can do things just as well as she can (planning trips, etc.).

Edited July 19, 2018 by njbchlover

[breezy424]

2 minutes ago, AnnA said:

 I'll speak for myself........because I carried my children  for nine months, labored, gave birth and nursed them.

Yikes.  What if the child is adopted?  Then there are a separate set of rules?

Oh and I get the pregnancy thing.  It's the most beautiful gift in the world.  It is special.  I can't say that enough.  It is special.  However, that doesn't mean that the other parent is not deserving. 

Heck, I get that you're coming from a different perspective but a parent is a parent.  Yes.  Shared custody sucks in some perspectives but that's what you sign up for when you have a child in a marriage or relationship.  As a parent, you're equals whether you have a biological child or you have an adoptive child.

[hoodooznoodooz]

Love the reaction shot of Ramona telling the chefs, “That’s how I look so ageless; I eat healthfully.” I know it’s the editing, but the editors always know how to amuse us. 

[Bronzedog]

Why did I get the impression that Ramona didn't forget that Bethenny is allergic to fish?  Then, after the first incident, she puts her dirty fish dishes in front of Bethenny.  I just don't believe Ramona does  that stuff innocently.

[BusyOctober]

Bethenny is one of those people who must be the center of attention or be in charge of the room or have all eyes on her event/charity/apartment/products/legal issues at all times.  When she isn’t the alpha in the moment, she has oh so many contrivances to swing the focus back to poor widdle B.  The dismissive remarks, the belittling of anyone who dares to challenge her, the crying, the panic attacks, the onset of a malady, the talking loudly over anyone else, the blaming of her actions on her ‘raised by wolves’ childhood, reminding everyone of the never ending battle with her Satanic ex husband...it is exhausting.  She loves to say how honest she is and only tells it like it is.  That is her play when B tells others what she thinks of them. If someone (ex. Carole or Dorinda) tries to flip the script and do a little truth telling back to her, Bethenny will go into attack mode. Or, if that fails to regain control, she will start to well up and hyperventilate and speakreallyreallyfastandrepeatthesamethingoverandover until the other party caves in. Who could stand to be around such mania for any length of time?

 She couldn’t just let Tinsley have the spotlight as host for the trip?  She just had to compare the “grimy”, subpar house in Columbia to her amaze-balls house in Mexico.  So disrespectful and rude.  And what person with severe allergies doesn’t a) pack Benadryl or epi-pens, b) let the host know about it, and c) ask whether the allergen is in any of the food BEFORE they eat it?

[AnnA]

5 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Yikes.  What if the child is adopted?  Then there are a separate set of rules?

Oh and I get the pregnancy thing.  It's the most beautiful gift in the world.  It is special.  I can't say that enough.  It is special.  However, that doesn't mean that the other parent is not deserving. 

Heck, I get that you're coming from a different perspective but a parent is a parent.  Yes.  Shared custody sucks in some perspectives but that's what you sign up for when you have a child in a marriage or relationship.  As a parent, you're equals whether you have a biological child or you have an adoptive child.

Since Bethenny was struggling with a custody issue, we're not really OT yet.   It's not a matter of one parent not deserving.  A "parent is a parent" unless one of those parents is the one who gave birth. There's a old saying........."Don't poke the mama bear."

[Marley]

I usually kind of like Bethenny but she was a huge Debbie downer this episode. I have a friend like that where if they don’t make the plans and aren’t in control of what we are doing they are the biggest bitch and will try to make things all about them and be upset and pouty. Then Someone has to go see how they are otherwise somehow ppl are being mean and ignoring and it’s always a big thing. That’s what Bethenny is doing. She doesn’t have to cry every 2 seconds and make it about her.

Also maybe she shouldn’t be running around saying the house sucks if she doesn’t want Tinsley knowing. That was really rude.

Tinsleys flowers were really lame lol. It’s the thought that counts tho I guess. Should’ve just sent beautiful flowers.

I don’t know alot about Bethennys divorce I’ve read some stuff but it’s laughable to think that just because she gave birth to the kid she’s somehow more deserving of custody.

Edited July 19, 2018 by Marley

[Fiero425]

49 minutes ago, BusyOctober said:

Bethenny is one of those people who must be the center of attention or be in charge of the room or have all eyes on her event/charity/apartment/products/legal issues at all times.  When she isn’t the alpha in the moment, she has oh so many contrivances to swing the focus back to poor widdle B.  The dismissive remarks, the belittling of anyone who dares to challenge her, the crying, the panic attacks, the onset of a malady, the talking loudly over anyone else, the blaming of her actions on her ‘raised by wolves’ childhood, reminding everyone of the never ending battle with her Satanic ex husband...it is exhausting.  She loves to say how honest she is and only tells it like it is.  That is her play when B tells others what she thinks of them. If someone (ex. Carole or Dorinda) tries to flip the script and do a little truth telling back to her, Bethenny will go into attack mode. Or, if that fails to regain control, she will start to well up and hyperventilate and speakreallyreallyfastandrepeatthesamethingoverandover until the other party caves in. Who could stand to be around such mania for any length of time?

 She couldn’t just let Tinsley have the spotlight as host for the trip?  She just had to compare the “grimy”, subpar house in Columbia to her amaze-balls house in Mexico.  So disrespectful and rude.  And what person with severe allergies doesn’t a) pack Benadryl or epi-pens, b) let the host know about it, and c) ask whether the allergen is in any of the food BEFORE they eat it?

Which is why I laugh or yawn at her WHOLE act! I'm so over Bethenny; finally went too far and there's no going back! Not sure how she can ever recover with me? ;-)

Edited July 19, 2018 by Fiero425

[MrsPatrickBateman]

22 minutes ago, AnnA said:

 I'll speak for myself........because I carried my children  for nine months, labored, gave birth and nursed them.

Father's aren't given that option though. 

It doesn't make them any less of a parent, at the end of the day the kid is still 50/50. No kid should feel badly about sharing DNA with their parent. I get ex's can be horrible but when a kid is involved, it's not about what type of partner they were. It's about the type of parent they are and then the sake of the kid that should be respected well over your own feelings. 

[Bronzedog]

Artichoke pizza sounds good to me but I don't know how I'd feel about a guy making a career around it.

[AnnA]

14 minutes ago, MrsPatrickBateman said:

Father's aren't given that option though. 

It doesn't make them any less of a parent, at the end of the day the kid is still 50/50. No kid should feel badly about sharing DNA with their parent. I get ex's can be horrible but when a kid is involved, it's not about what type of partner they were. It's about the type of parent they are and then the sake of the kid that should be respected well over your own feelings. 

I don't disagree.