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Speaking of Christmas Vacation, shame we can't get Ellen Hamilton Latzen to play a not-Ruby Sue character. The Conners could use some "Sorry! Shittin' rocks!"

(If you ever get to see Family Ties's "Miracle in Columbus", Latzen steals the show there, too:

[MICHELLE is sitting on Santa's (ALEX P. KEATON) knee at the shopping mall] 

MICHELLE: If you're Santa Claus, why are there so many Santas Clauses at other malls? 

ALEX Well, Michelle, it's like how President Reagan can't be everywhere at once so he sends his assistants out in his place 

MICHELLE: I don't believe in him, either!

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I am going to the taping of The Conners this week and I was wondering if anyone had any advice who has gone before.   How early should I get there?   Is it pretty cold in the studio?  Thanks! 

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On 11/2/2018 at 6:22 AM, CherryAmes said:

They make canned cranberry sauce

Homemade cranberry sauce is the easiest thing EVER!  Boil the berries until mushy, add a pinch of gelatin and store in the fridge.  I usually make one plain, and one with chopped apples and nuts.

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13 hours ago, jhlipton said:

Homemade cranberry sauce is the easiest thing EVER!  Boil the berries until mushy, add a pinch of gelatin and store in the fridge.  I usually make one plain, and one with chopped apples and nuts.

No sugar?

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You don't need gelatin, but 1 bag of cranberries + 1/4c sugar, and maybe a dash of orange juice or zest. Boil until the berries pop and the texture is how you like it. That's my secret recipe.

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8 minutes ago, ThatsDarling said:

Live action sitcoms also tend to have a significantly less grueling production schedule than, say, a single-camera series. 

Yep; other than commercials, it's the easiest on-camera money in the business.  (And, yes, of course, they care about these characters and each other, and are happy to be back telling these stories again, too.) 

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10 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

No sugar?

We use Splenda.  (I don't know how I forgot that!)

1 hour ago, ThatsDarling said:

Live action sitcoms also tend to have a significantly less grueling production schedule than, say, a single-camera series. 

1 hour ago, Bastet said:

Yep; other than commercials, it's the easiest on-camera money in the business.

Voice-over has to be up there, too.

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2 minutes ago, jhlipton said:

Voice-over has to be up there, too.

That's why I said on-camera, but I could have made that more clear.

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11 minutes ago, Bastet said:

That's why I said on-camera, but I could have made that more clear.

I could also learn to read!  LOL

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On 11/3/2018 at 10:48 AM, BeachDays said:

I am going to the taping of The Conners this week and I was wondering if anyone had any advice who has gone before.   How early should I get there?   Is it pretty cold in the studio?  Thanks! 

That's great! I hope you have a good seat. I haven't been to ABC but I have been in other tapings. Yup it's chilly. Those stage lights light the actors on fire so AC is full tilt. A nice sweater or blazer and you are golden ! Let us know how fun it was! 

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I thought I would bring this here:

So, who else doesn't like that many of the show forums are being turned into a single threads for "Other X Shows" forums? While I understand the approach on paper, it's a mess with all those show threads crammed into a single forum. If the forums were dead before, I highly doubt this would change anything, with some show threads being buried to the bottom on the forum and everything. Plus, some of those dead forums had thousands of posts and many threads before.

I'm pretty sure this forum is safe, at least.

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Rest assured we all are having to adjust.  It's going to be a trying experience until the new version of the PTV forum is up and running.  

Just to clarify, I don't believe any forum with thousands of posts will be deleted. If such a forum hasn't had many posts in a couple of years, then it will be archived (vaulted) and a new topic created for any posts going forward. Which makes sense, the old posts are available for new users to read and reference but any ongoing conversation will be in the new thread.  If it has a lot fewer posts, then yes, they will all be merged into a topic going forward.  (Some users may have already experienced this when episode threads get merged into an all episodes discussion topic due to low volume in a forum.) Some low volume forums have been deleted though, especially ones that haven't had any posts in over a year.     

In a month or two, a lot of the changes will make more sense with the new forum layout.  

I will make a pitch for the changes, though.  Before the re-org started, PTV had over 2400 shows, with more requested every day. This has really strained the limits of the forum software - so some updates have to be done.  But the new forum will have some nifty features that I know will be popular. And we can't get there from here, without a little pain. 

TL;DR - Yeah, changes suck but sometimes it's unavoidable.    

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Yeah, I know that about the Vault forums. I still don't like the idea of some of these forums being converted into a single thread, particularly ones that had a lot of threads, like the parent show of this, Roseanne. Just too crammy and confusing with all the threads merged together, really. The really small ones with under 100 posts, I can understand, but that's it. Us as a community should at least have a say in what forums should stay.

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@Lili -  the vaulted Roseanne show still has all its original threads intact.  Going forward any discussion of Roseanne: TOS will be in one topic.  The reason for that is the lack of traffic the old forum had.  It's possible that once the memory of Roseanne's issues faded, traffic might have resumed to pre-revival levels and spared it the vault, but we'll never know for sure. 

Once the transition is complete and we all get settled in, it's possible that some forums that are now topics may be converted to full forums, if they are popular enough.  We've been told that it will be a two way street.  Forums that are popular now may someday get the vault/single topic treatment and singles may get expanded.  I don't know if Roseanne will ever again be one of those but stranger things have happened.   

I think the 2 tiered system is kind of weird myself but there is a logic behind it on the software level.  The merging discussions into one... well, it's not ideal in a lot of cases.  I agree with you there but it is what it is.  

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I find it funny that people don’t bat an eyelash that Dan is alive and well in this reboot, but can’t fathom that Andy doesn’t exist! 🤣

On 11/28/2019 at 2:44 AM, femmefan1946 said:

When DD was 16, her boyfriend (15) and his sister (17) lived in a very high end condo, owned by their parents. The parents had built their dream home near a ski hill, 40km outside of the city, but wanted the kids to stay in their school, which was two blocks from the condo.
Totally selfish. And yes, the kids turned out badly.

Fortunately, DD is very tight with money and we had told her that if she could honestly tell us she hadn't smoked tobacco by the time she was 16, we would give her $1000. BF decided a girlfriend who wouldn't do drugs with him was boring, so the relationship was over after a few months.

DD put the money into her university savings account.

I actually think one reason they got away with effectively abandoning the kids was that it was an expensive building and the neighbours didn't pay much attention to each other. Social workers don't often get involved with rich families.

Wait—I’m confused. She just had to adhere to a “no tobacco” policy?? Were drugs, sex, etc not part of the deal?? 
 
Also: I absolutely would have lied to my parents to collect $1k when I was a teen. 

On 11/28/2019 at 2:44 AM, femmefan1946 said:
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On 12/2/2019 at 5:06 AM, Duke2801 said:

Wait—I’m confused. She just had to adhere to a “no tobacco” policy?? Were drugs, sex, etc not part of the deal?? 
 

I'm of the opinion that the entryway to "drugs" is tobacco. If you are under 18 you are buying tobacco illegally. It's very difficult to smoke marijuana, if you haven't 'trained" on cooler tobacco smoke. And if you are hanging around with the smoking crowd, you are also hanging with the drugs and party crowd.

Twenty years later, it looks like the deaths and illnesses from vaping are mostly from illegally produced marijuana made with the same chemical that produces "popcorn lung". Again, start with tobacco, move to weed.

Neither her parents nor her caretaker (we both worked) used tobacco, so she wasn't exposed at home. She was already an active feminist and participated in peer to peer programs with Planned Parenthood. So we were not worried about and unwanted pregnancy. She is now a sexual health educator.

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On 12/5/2019 at 12:32 AM, femmefan1946 said:

I'm of the opinion that the entryway to "drugs" is tobacco. If you are under 18 you are buying tobacco illegally. It's very difficult to smoke marijuana, if you haven't 'trained" on cooler tobacco smoke. And if you are hanging around with the smoking crowd, you are also hanging with the drugs and party crowd.

Twenty years later, it looks like the deaths and illnesses from vaping are mostly from illegally produced marijuana made with the same chemical that produces "popcorn lung". Again, start with tobacco, move to weed.

Neither her parents nor her caretaker (we both worked) used tobacco, so she wasn't exposed at home. She was already an active feminist and participated in peer to peer programs with Planned Parenthood. So we were not worried about and unwanted pregnancy. She is now a sexual health educator.

My husband is a tobacco smoker and has never smoked a joint or taken anything harder than aspirin. I smoke marijuana on occasion but have never even held a cigerette.  No training involved.

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