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S10.E11: Faux Weddings and a Funeral


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Okay, the SK jeans look good on Sonja & Bethenny.  I now want to try on a pair.  OTOH, that 1st dress that Tinsley tried on and loved so much was awful.  Was Carol really eating popcorn after just petting her cat and not washing her hands. Eeww! Speaking of jeans, she had on a pair in a style I never saw before.  It looked like they took the look of a cuffed jean leg and attached the cuff look all the way up the leg.  Andplusalso, what happened to Carol's butt?  She no longer has one!  Wasn't her butt her pride and glory in her 1st (2nd ?) season?  

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How is Carole’s couch that she got completely redone including stuffing the cushions and I would have assumed shoring up the bones already sagging? It’s clearly not from the weight of her nonexistent ass.

I know trying on wedding dressss was cringeworthy but I want Tinsley to find happiness and love. She is ridiculous but she seems like a genuinely sweet and light person that would be fun to be around at a Hammam.

As someone who declared at six I didn’t want children and didn’t waver, I am not that up on this but I thought frozen eggs don’t have nearly the success rate that frozen embroys do? I mean that could be for a ton of reasons of why and how one would choose to freeze an egg versus and embryo but it’s stoll a legitimate concern.

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2 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

The sisters from Grey Gardens?

The women from Grey Gardens were mother and daughter, which makes your comparison even more apropos. 

 

2 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I can’t figure out what is going on with Carole’s jeans. They look like pedal pushers with a deep cuff. Then it looks as if someone cut the legs off another pair of jeans, folded deeps cuffs at both the top hem and bottom hem, then stitched these to the pedal pushers. 

And Carole called Lu's dress at her court date a crime. Does Carole own a mirror? 

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Sonja better hope that Jill doesn’t join the show because she is would be the one to go.

also, what was Bethenny going on about that wasn’t really a fax machine it was a printer/scanner/copier  from five or six years ago. It probably has fax functions if you want but was super typical for home offices a few years ago. It’s also probably the most recent electronic in Sonja’s house.

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OK, I got a sense of humor.  I really do.  But Carole fake crying behind bars?  WTF was up with that?  It wasn't funny, Carole.  It was just thoughtless, cruel & gross.  Honestly, I didn't get the purpose of that whole scene.  Were the producers giving Lu a really cruel & nasty dig?  Or are they mocking people who are jailed?  That's funny or worth mocking?  I don't get it.  And Tinz is the one I really don't get.  She went thru the misery of this situation -- and she's joking about it?  Ugh. 

I swear, Tinz acts like she's living in another world.  Sure, Sonja is like that too, but there's something so off about Tinz -- much more so than Sonja.  Yeah, her mother was giving her the usual motherly digs all our mothers give us.  But she also seemed to be treating her like she was a mental patient in an asylum.  Well, maybe I'm projecting cuz that's how I'd react to Tinz.

I suspect the producers were sending viewers AND Jillzy a very loud message -- SORRY JILLZY, BUT WE AIN'T LETTING YOU BACK ON THE SHOW!

No big surprise that Bethenny hasn't spoken to Jillzy in years & that Bobby's death wouldn't change anything.  Sigh, Bethenny & her grudges.  She'll hold onto them till she dies.  But then again, I wouldn't trust Jillzy for a sec.  No matter what she says or does, I'm sure she hasn't changed one bit since she got kicked off the show.

Jeez, Bethenny's boobies in that prison-mocking scene were so outta control -- and not in an attractive way.  Usually she seems to know how to keep them in line, but wow, they looked so weird in comparison to how thin she is.

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4 minutes ago, Jade Foxx said:

Lu, you were in jail, not prison. Let’s keep it real. 

Since most of the woman acted like going to an excerise class was the equivalent of being in prison, I will give her a pass particularly since she has just gotten out of rehab which is obviously not remotely the same it is isolating and a closer comparison than a group exercise class.

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2 hours ago, Jade Foxx said:

Lu, you were in jail, not prison. Let’s keep it real. 

Ha!

Oh, sweet friggin' Luann -- with grudging admiration, I salute her ability to (with one word choice) make a night in a West Palm Beach jail sound like hard time -- as if 15 hours in a cell was equivalent to making weapons out of plastic knives, cutting bitches in the showers, refusing to work in the laundry ("Pocahantas don't wash no panties WHOOP WHOOP!") macking on guards to give her cigarettes  ("Money can buy you ass!") and tunneling to freedom  (until she meets up with Tim Robbins on a beach, wearing her Diana Ross wig and make-up).  Keep serving New York Housewife realness, Lu - with that snotty, unsufferable start you had, who knew you'd end up being the latter-day MVP so often in this franchise?

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Lu is acting weird as hell.  OK, OK, I get that she's proud & she doesn't wanna admit to anyone just how fucked up she is.  But wait a sec -- so Lu missed Bobby's funeral because of her ridiculous bullshit in getting herself arrested?  Good grief, that is so fucking tacky!  But she keeps telling everyone how great she feels -- like she's in a spa.  Um, huh?  So we're supposed to believe Lu is gonna give up booze & sex?  Yeah, right.  And if she did that, Bravo would boot her ass lickety-split.  No worries, Bravo.  It ain't gonna happen.

And what was the deal with the Bravo cams capturing her time in court?  Man, that was gross of Bravo to do.  And please don't ask if she gave permission for them to do that.  I've seen the contracts these broads sign (well, not Bethenny's) & they pretty much sign their lives away.  What I'm surprised at is how they got permission to film inside the court.

WTF was Bethenny babbling about Moaner not being so bad?  Fuck off with that bullshit, Bethenny -- you know you hate her guts & you have every right to.  Moaner is horrible.  Sheesh, this kinda bullshit bugs me as much as when Carole babbles about liking Moaner -- & then she'll also go on about how awful Moaner is.  Look, we know Moaner is horrible & saying anything else about her is a waste of time, so cut this shit out!

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And this is why Beth will never be released from the show: she performs her duties perfectly.  She doesn’t know why she can’t leave after the funeral?  BS. She  WON’T leave until she gets King Andy’s money shot of her talking to Jill, the holy grail moment of the franchise.  Good little Bravo lap dog, B.  Enjoy your promo moment of your fugly jeans (as an oversized gal, I would not wear something that says Skinny on it.  Are you kidding me?).  

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7 hours ago, rideashire said:

Not trying to body shame anyone, I swear....but....is Carol really that thin or does she just have no ass? Half the time I'm concerned and the other half I'm not quite sure. She's confusing me.

good grief yes, those 90s acid washed jeans with the balloony legs made her ass look wasted. She really needs to stay in the tighter styles, that was awful. I'm so sick of Carole and her 'fear of deadlines', so many writers would jump at the paid chance for an audience in Cosmo. Carole comes off really arrogant. In her treatment of the editors and her readers. Get a life, Carole. 

Dale wants Tinsley to have a baby, regardless of Scott. I have always thought Tinsley has a mean mouth. When she was furious with Dale in the hotel bar, we got to see her in psycho mode, it's not a pretty sight. And ffs, GET A STYLIST. Stop dressing like a 5 year old's princess dreams. Every skirt she wears has an underskirt, so it looks like a collapsed tutu. And frills. And bows. I can't with Tinsley. 

 

I hope Jill comes back. Not a popular opinion at times, but I did love what Jill brought. All the hurt feelings and emotional distress. And Bobby. She even made Ramona relatable this episode.

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2 hours ago, film noire said:

Yes, it's an enormous relief to know that Bobby's real loyalty lay not with his beloved partner of nearly two decades, but with Bethenny Fucking Frankel.  (That's the world she lives in: a woman is widowed, a daughter left without a stepfather,  and still, Bethenny claims victory  -- yay, you, Bethenny,  yay you.  Go talk to Carole; maybe somebody will throw you a fucking theme party to celebrate.)

If I know one thing about Bobby Zarin, it's that he wouldn't like Frankel using his death to score points against his wife. What a shame Bethenny - having met the man -- doesn't seem to know that as well. 

 

I think you're being very unfair, KeyWestclubKid!

Who among us hasn't approached a grieving widow only to inform her of one's own losses and loneliness? Who hasn't treated condolences like a funereal Facebook update?  (Feeling: OVERLOOKED.)  Who among us hasn't worn an ornate get-up to a funeral (the only thing missing was a fake Groucho nose and glasses) in order to appear inconspicuous to the paparazzi? 

Who hasn't watched someone -- a close relative, a dear friend, a frenemy, a total fucking stranger on tv -- in the middle of grieving the brutal death of a loved one and then immediately run to tell the whole world:"HEY EVERYBODY THE DEAD GUY THOUGHT I WAS RIGHT!!!" Who hasn't attended shiva and spoken not of the widow's courage and grief,  but instead of how "humble" she was, how earnestly she (in the middle of a profound loss) made obeisance over a bitter spat?

No, no, Bethenny handled it all selflessly and with only kindness towards those grieving, KeyWest -- not a whiff of narcissim about her.

 

As cringeworthy as it was, I'd rather watch Tins try on wedding dresses than watch Frankel try to snatch the widow's veil off Jill Zarin's head.

 

~The Password clue this episode is "Humbled" (the same word Bethenny used for both Luann and Jill  -- psst, Ramona? Want to know what Bethenny's idea of hardcore porn is? No water beds involved:  just Dennis whispering "They've all been HUMBLED!!!!!!" and Skinnygirl explodes like a rocket). 

This is EVERYTHING. 

Bethenny' s "I am alone too"  is the core root issue that  propels her tantrums and antics.  Gift bags ? Not funny. 

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The bit when Sonja and Bethenny are walking up the stairs at Sonja's home:

Bethenny: " Why am I such a pussy? What happened to me? I'm so emotional! Those jeans look so good on you". 

Translation: "Do you see how human I am?... SKINNYGIRL!!!"

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8 hours ago, Jets4274 said:

I found it a bit strange how Jill allowed the cameras to be at the funeral.  I don't know.  Would think that she would have wanted to keep that moment as private as possible.  I know she loved her husband though.

Jill would sell her soul to the devil to get back on this show.  I thought it was in very poor taste.

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8 hours ago, Gem 10 said:

Carole must be so damn busy.  Doing what?  I have no idea.  She didn’t even start the article for Cosmo.  What else is new?  Guess playing with cats takes time.

What does Ramona do?  What does Sonja do?  What does Lu do?  What does Tinsley do?  What does Dorinda do?

We only see a small part of their lives.  

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27 minutes ago, Happy Camper said:

Saying that she hoped to have that was so real and sincere. Now I want that for Ramona.

Ramona would stomp a 'real and sincere' man into a frothy, muddled pulp, add ice and drink him down.  Turtle time indeed.

27 minutes ago, Happy Camper said:

she ought to be ashamed of her self

I don't think Bethenny has this emotion in her database.

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The fake crying performed by Dale and Tinsley over the facetimed photo of eggs, not embryos, calling them "my babies", all while Tins is sitting in a not-yet-needed* wedding gown, was so much amazing awfulness, it should have its own category at the RHO Awards, which I will call The Wifeys.  (howzat for a run-on sentence?)

*I suspect that Tins & Scott have seriously discussed marriage, and that there might be an impending engagement.  I find it hard to believe that she would risk looking so desperately foolish if not.  This was filmed about 6 months ago, right?  But I've been wrong like 26 times already this morning, so...

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7 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

But Bethany throwing out I Chartered a private plane makes her humble and like a comman man? How many people procrastinate when doing their jobs. She’s a writer that writes from home and admits to procrastinating (hell I am even guilty of it sometimes at work) she’s not rubbing it in anyone’s face or flaunting her “wealth” by doing this. Tons of people procrastinate every day. 

Actually Bethany in most cases has been  pretty terrible on this show.  I will give her the benefit of the doubt that some don’t do funerals well and she was nervous so she blurted out the plane comments. But it’s bethany and she’s a narcissist so who knows. 

 

But shes who she is. Deep down I suspect she knows she is pretty messed up. 

Carole thinks her whole slacker thing is cute. It’s not.  And in light of watching her shame women when she felt her career was attaced it’s rich watching her act like an entitled inexperienced writer the last few seasons.  She thinks we are going to find this adorable. It’s not. 

I am a writer. I procrastinate. I still get my deadlines. Then again I am just a mom in the suburbs these days with just two more kids than Carole. Three if u can’t my fur child. 

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3 minutes ago, lamujerdecente said:

will give her the benefit of the doubt that some don’t do funerals well and she was nervous so she blurted out the plane comments

I believe the plane comments were in a talking head not at the funeral. 

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24 minutes ago, ButterQueen said:

I don’t see Carole eating popcorn and loving on her kitty wrong.  

Neither do I.  I see chomping on popcorn while talking on the phone disgusting.  Don’t even start me on it being a business call.  I swear sometimes she acts the same age as Tinsley does.  It is probably why they are good friends.

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4 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Er, Bethenny, I know you think you know it all, but you are dead wrong about fax machines being obsolete.  Some large companies still use them & several industries, such as insurance, still use them fairly regularly.  My law firm uses them sometimes for documents that need to be signed or heavily secured or when emails are not known.  So no, Bethenny, you're WRONG about fax machines being totally useless now -- as you implied with your stupid jokes.  Man, than felt good.  C'mon, Bethenny, gimme another opportunity to tell you you're wrong!

My crowd, software tech, make big fax machine jokes.  Healthcare doesn’t like them because it is a non-secure method of sending personal information.  My favorite line is when asked for a fax my friend says, oh wait let me run off some copies on the mimeo first.  So everyone makes fax jokes because 1990’s called and wants their mall bangs back.

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Scott's gotta tell Tinsley he's moving to Yemen.  I'm sure there's a vacancy at 1 Yemen Road.

Didn't Tinsley say she got married right out of high school?  The caption on her wedding photo said 2009- is she pretending she's not 40?

I don't want Jill coming back.  Without Bobby around as a calming influence I feel she'll be beyond horrible, she'll make Ramona look sweet in comparison.

Carole, you're not cute.  Bye.

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6 hours ago, raiderred1 said:

Tins, sweetie, you are just not that into Scott. It's cringingly clear when y'all are together. Quit being so thirsty for the first thing with a dick and some balls. 

...and lots of money.

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5 minutes ago, QuinnM said:

My crowd, software tech, make big fax machine jokes.  Healthcare doesn’t like them because it is a non-secure method of sending personal information.  My favorite line is when asked for a fax my friend says, oh wait let me run off some copies on the mimeo first.  So everyone makes fax jokes because 1990’s called and wants their mall bangs back.

I work in marketing and we are surprised the company we work for still has a fax machine and that we have to use that number on collateral... so I totes agree with you and I get what Bethenny was getting at. She can't even make a joke about a fax machine without getting skewered... she does plenty of other things to pick apart... 

Side note - I'm on the not digging Carole train this season but I didn't even register she was petting her cat and eating popcorn - I've had cats around me since birth pretty much - I no doubt pet them and then snacked on something and here I still am... LOL... however I do agree with others it was rude for her to be eat noisy arse popcorn while on a business call. At least we finally got to see her at home.

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42 minutes ago, ButterQueen said:

I have 2 precious kitties and just buried my beloved dog.  I love petting and loving on them.  Never thought I needed to wash my hands afterwards before having a snack.  They are my pets and clean.  I don’t see Carole eating popcorn and loving on her kitty wrong.  

Condolences on your doggie.  Terrible thing losing a pet.  Their time with us is far too brief.

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6 hours ago, Christi said:

AND throwing in the dig that Bobby only told Jill no once, he wouldnt fix the fight with  Bethany because the fight was Jill's fault. Jesus Christ Beth, can you ever say ANYTHING nice? That was a LOW BLOW

That was the line that did me in.  Bethenny's whole mantra last night was "jill said she was wrong."  She seemed to have no appreciation of the year plus of agony Jill must have had with Bobby back and forth to the hospital for weeks and weeks, and then finally home to hospice care for close to a month.  She waited to make her dramatic appearance at the funeral in her widow's weeds.  Jill's own sister looked more casual.    Let's face it, when Bethenny doesn't want to do something, production cannot force her to do it so going to that funeral was her choice.  Ramona did visit Bobby many times in the hospital; Jill alluded to it in her Instagram throughout the year.   It was no surprise that Bobby died; he was home in hospice care for about 6 weeks; Bethenny had ample time to visit.  

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7 hours ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

Sonja was at the funeral, wearing her gigantic fur hat.

KKB, John, and Danielle Staub were there as well. So were Aviva and Reid.

 

I also found this instagram post from Luann.

That's a lovely sentiment from LuAnn.

 

Just for informational purposes, according to the Daily Mail (which has pictures of everyone and anyone entering the service), there was no sign of Andy.

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37 minutes ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

1990's?  We had 'em in the 70's gurl.  We were trailblazers.

What we thought we looked like vs. what we really looked like:

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HA! So funny!

(Really sad about Farrah’s son.)

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46 minutes ago, weaver said:

That was the line that did me in.  Bethenny's whole mantra last night was "jill said she was wrong."  She seemed to have no appreciation of the year plus of agony Jill must have had with Bobby back and forth to the hospital for weeks and weeks, and then finally home to hospice care for close to a month.  She waited to make her dramatic appearance at the funeral in her widow's weeds.  Jill's own sister looked more casual.    Let's face it, when Bethenny doesn't want to do something, production cannot force her to do it so going to that funeral was her choice.  Ramona did visit Bobby many times in the hospital; Jill alluded to it in her Instagram throughout the year.   It was no surprise that Bobby died; he was home in hospice care for about 6 weeks; Bethenny had ample time to visit.  

I honestly am at the point where I think that Bethenny has no social skills whatsoever.  Sure she can run her business and charities and make speeches, but I just don't think she is capable of 1:1 conversations or relationships.  With Jill, you express your sympathy, maybe say  you'll call her in a few days, ,and move on.  That's all she had to do.

I doubt Bethenny has many close friends at all.  Her deepest conversations seem to be with her driver.

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46 minutes ago, weaver said:

She seemed to have no appreciation of the year plus of agony Jill must have had with Bobby back and forth to the hospital for weeks and weeks, and then finally home to hospice care for close to a month. 

That was the line that struck me.  I didn't know that Bobby had been so sick for the past year.  I've read very little about Jill since her time on the RH, so I wasn't aware that he'd been in and out of the hospital so much.  I figured Bethenny would find a way to make his death about her, and she certainly did.  Sheesh.  

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2 hours ago, lamujerdecente said:

Actually Bethany in most cases has been  pretty terrible on this show.  I will give her the benefit of the doubt that some don’t do funerals well and she was nervous so she blurted out the plane comments. But it’s bethany and she’s a narcissist so who knows.

She doesn't do any kind of real human interaction well other then yelling and bossing ..IJS.... IT was all kinds of sad and messed up that Bethany was more sympathetic (well has sympathetic has a human robot could be) to Luann in that car phone call then she was to a grieving widow AT HER husbands FUNERAL/Wake. Whose dead husband thought of her like family and never said a unkind word about her on camera. I'm sorry when Ramona had more sense and tact to put aside any ILL feelings she had with Jill and went to see her and Bobby before he died and Bethany couldn't be bothered or seemed to care shows A LOT about her (The man was dying for crying out loud).  Who brings her own product to hawk before talking about going to see that same widow on The Shivah not to talk about how she consoled the widow or talk about how sad she is or hurt  or ANYTHING about the widow  other then to say she apologized to me I WAS RIGHT her dead husband was on my side  yes to make it once again about her? she is a gross human being and this episode shown a big bright spotlight on pretty much how cold and heartless the woman can be ...

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7 hours ago, Lemons said:

I know, watching Carole and Tinsley carrying on a conversation, I was watching with my mouth open.  Talk about a couple of cases of arrested development.  

Like, what could you possibly mean?  Like.

I am embarrassed for them.

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