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Nice article about Kim Cattrall in the NY Times.
 

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Listening to Kim Cattrall speak as herself is one of life’s little pleasures.

In the pantheon of Earth’s most soothing sounds, Ms. Cattrall murmuring “I was being forsaken by those Greek twins, Hypnos and Thanatos” (while discussing her insomnia on a BBC program) takes its rightful place between the rustle of dry leaves in an autumn wind and the purling of cool water from a clear, sweet mountain stream.

Hearing Ms. Cattrall analyze the pejorative implication of the term “childless” (while discussing modern womanhood on another BBC program) feels like pressing a cold compress into the hot, black space behind your eyes. Listening to Ms. Cattrall recount a story about wanting to sing “Jingle Bells” onstage as a child (in a discussion about her favorite songs on a different BBC program — the BBC loves her) will make you want to be about to fall asleep forever.

 

I'm going to have to check out those podcasts!

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9 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

New York Magazine talks to some of the female writers of the show about storylines that they'd pitch in 2018. All of them are surely better than whatever travesty that Michael Patrick King had envisioned for the third movie.

http://www.vulture.com/2018/06/sex-and-the-city-2018-season.html

I agree. They were much better then anything Michael Patrick King would ever come up with. They were good ideas.

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On 6/7/2018 at 1:59 PM, HunterHunted said:

New York Magazine talks to some of the female writers of the show about storylines that they'd pitch in 2018. All of them are surely better than whatever travesty that Michael Patrick King had envisioned for the third movie.

http://www.vulture.com/2018/06/sex-and-the-city-2018-season.html

If any of these ideas had been used for a 3rd movie.. I have a feeling KIm C might have reconsidered.  The final one on the list is my favorite :)

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On ‎6‎/‎15‎/‎2018 at 8:49 PM, JAYJAY1979 said:

If any of these ideas had been used for a 3rd movie.. I have a feeling KIm C might have reconsidered.  The final one on the list is my favorite :)

Although that Samantha storyline was used previously.  When she was tired of the girls and starting going out with some southern lady.  Then the southern lady preceded to go down on one of the guys they picked up right in the restaurant.  Samantha was horrified at this women's behavior.

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8 hours ago, DkNNy79 said:

Although that Samantha storyline was used previously.  When she was tired of the girls and starting going out with some southern lady.  Then the southern lady preceded to go down on one of the guys they picked up right in the restaurant.  Samantha was horrified at this women's behavior.

So was basically everything Carrie did post season 3.  I was thinking more about the #metoo story would have been interesting to use for Samantha.

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Great closing line too:

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That said, if we’re truly being honest with ourselves, the best character is probably Magda.

Not sure Magda's the best, but she did arrange Miranda's condom collection very neatly.

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1 hour ago, MaggieG said:

Ha! How many of us called it that they'd kill of Big in the third movie? I love that it was a heart attack.  Of course after a decade of taking Carrie to every ball, party, gala, club and every other thing while working non stop so she could still buy all the shoes, bags and other designer clothes she wanted it would his heart that finally gave out. I can imagine Carrie sitting on her bed, her friends around her, in ugly designer clothes and shoes wailing how he was never there for her when she needed him while insisting her friends drop everything going in their lives to be at her beck and call until she's ready to hit the clubs again and then she'll need them again to help find her a new man. Fingers crossed that it also included a scene in a lawyer's office where Carrie learns she blew all of Big's money on shoes and clothes and now has no money.      

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Yes, you smart people called that the script would kill off Big. Congrats, and also thank you, Kim (#TeamKim) for turning this drivel down. Watching Carrie indulge in her own grief and making everyone else obsess over everything Carrie, wouldn't have been anything I would have watched. I had zero interest in a 3rd movie no matter what the storyline, but something that hyper-focuses on Carrie is a HARD PASS. I'd like to send Kim Cattrall a card, some flowers? Something as my sign of gratitude.

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7 hours ago, andromeda331 said:

Fingers crossed that it also included a scene in a lawyer's office where Carrie learns she blew all of Big's money on shoes and clothes and now has no money.      

Is it bad that part of me would love to see that Carrie would end up like this? Widowed and left to deal with the financial mess that she made thanks to her designer wardrobe obsession?? 

Probably not a great way to end such an otherwise great series though. Sounds like total grief porn; didn’t we get enough of that pity partying from Carrie with the first movie?!

This makes me respect Kim C’s decision to bow out all the more; she’s in her 60’s now and has no desire to become some aging Mae West-like caricature of Samantha. She has no interest in hanging out with any of the cast either; maybe she’s just an elitist bitch who feels the other actors/material are beneath her. Hey, it’s totally her right and I think the other actors know the series just wouldn’t be as good without her.

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No doubt there'd be some new Aiden related issue. He'd be at the memorial. Carrie would get up to try to thank him for coming, trip over the coffin, a flower arrangement, or Big's picture, and end up in an awkward yet intimate position with Aiden. Kim Cattrall deserves a humanitarian award from keeping this garbage pile from being made.

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On 11/21/2018 at 12:52 AM, Sun-Bun said:

Is it bad that part of me would love to see that Carrie would end up like this? Widowed and left to deal with the financial mess that she made thanks to her designer wardrobe obsession?? 

I'll take a table for two on that one. The funny thing is that I would have been totally on board with Big dying while the series itself was still on, because I often thought that would be the only thing that would bring Carrie to reality. Of course, I was hoping for that event to occur before they  married, so she would have to face the fact that she was never going to marry a rich man (or at least not that particular rich man) and be forced to deal with her own financial messes, because my guess would be that even though Charlotte bailed her out enough that she could buy her apartment, the kind of OTT spending Carrie did that left her with no savings and often in debt would continue. In some ways I was hoping that a genuine crisis would make her examine her situation and decide how she wanted to live. And if she wants to spend all her money on designer shoes with no safety net financially, that's her choice she's entitled to make, as long as she doesn't assume that other people will be there to rescue her if something happens.

But the idea of framing an entire movie around Big's death and Carrie having to be comforted by her friends nonstop? Hell to the no. I don't care why Kim passed on the movie, whether it was lack of financial incentives or just being unable to face the horror of pretending to give a fuck about Carrie; she made the right decision regardless of her motives. It sounds as if the other three women would have been more or less afterthoughts in the grand drama of Carrie's grief. Those characters were marginalized way too much for my tastes previously; I can't imagine how dreadful this would have been if it had in fact been made. Let's see: 5  minutes each for Miranda, Charlotte, and Sam, all of which would be them consoling Carrie and agreeing that yes, her sorrow and grief are the worst that have ever happened to anyone in history, and the rest of the movie would be Carrie crying and shrieking, then wallowing in self-pity, all while every man she meets wants to get involved with her, and then at the end of the movie she finally decides it's time to move on to her next victim.

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9 hours ago, BookWoman56 said:

I'll take a table for two on that one. The funny thing is that I would have been totally on board with Big dying while the series itself was still on, because I often thought that would be the only thing that would bring Carrie to reality. Of course, I was hoping for that event to occur before they  married, so she would have to face the fact that she was never going to marry a rich man (or at least not that particular rich man) and be forced to deal with her own financial messes, because my guess would be that even though Charlotte bailed her out enough that she could buy her apartment, the kind of OTT spending Carrie did that left her with no savings and often in debt would continue. In some ways I was hoping that a genuine crisis would make her examine her situation and decide how she wanted to live. And if she wants to spend all her money on designer shoes with no safety net financially, that's her choice she's entitled to make, as long as she doesn't assume that other people will be there to rescue her if something happens.

But the idea of framing an entire movie around Big's death and Carrie having to be comforted by her friends nonstop? Hell to the no. I don't care why Kim passed on the movie, whether it was lack of financial incentives or just being unable to face the horror of pretending to give a fuck about Carrie; she made the right decision regardless of her motives. It sounds as if the other three women would have been more or less afterthoughts in the grand drama of Carrie's grief. Those characters were marginalized way too much for my tastes previously; I can't imagine how dreadful this would have been if it had in fact been made. Let's see: 5  minutes each for Miranda, Charlotte, and Sam, all of which would be them consoling Carrie and agreeing that yes, her sorrow and grief are the worst that have ever happened to anyone in history, and the rest of the movie would be Carrie crying and shrieking, then wallowing in self-pity, all while every man she meets wants to get involved with her, and then at the end of the movie she finally decides it's time to move on to her next victim.

That's exactly what would have happened.  Carrie's grief, Carrie's mourning, Carrie's self-pity, consoling Carrie, all about Carrie. Thank God Kim passed on it. It was bad enough watching all that in the first moving. Having to spoon feed Carrie soup?     

3 hours ago, Inquisitionist said:

Wouldn't this just be a rehash of Charlotte, Miranda and Samantha consoling Carrie after Big ditched her at the altar?  That was nauseating enough the first time around.

Yes and yes it was. 

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12 hours ago, BookWoman56 said:

I was hoping for that event to occur before they  married, so she would have to face the fact that she was never going to marry a rich man (or at least not that particular rich man) and be forced to deal with her own financial messes, because my guess would be that even though Charlotte bailed her out enough that she could buy her apartment, the kind of OTT spending Carrie did that left her with no savings and often in debt would continue.

I could totally be incorrectly remembering, but I was under the impression during the 1st movie that she had a couple books under her belt & was doing ok financially.  

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11 hours ago, ByTor said:

I could totally be incorrectly remembering, but I was under the impression during the 1st movie that she had a couple books under her belt & was doing ok financially.  

Doing okay financially is often not a function of exactly how much income someone has, but rather of whether they are willing to live within their means. Sure, Carrie could have done a couple of  books, although realistically she wouldn't have made any huge amount from them. But let's say her income increased by $25K a year. If she simply proceeds to spend that additional income on even more designer shoes and clothes instead of putting some away for savings (emergency fund and so forth), she'd be right back in the same situation she was previously where she spent essentially every dollar she made and so had nothing to use as a down payment, or now that she has the apartment, if she needed to do some big repairs or even was out of work for a while. I never saw any evidence during the series that even after she was indebted to Charlotte for the down payment, that she radically changed her spending habits. I remember her saying that she needed to make some changes in her financial habits, but she still seemed to buy expensive shoes on a regular basis. She wasn't someone in her early 20s just starting out and making some foolish choices before realizing she couldn't afford certain things and still pay her bills. She had established spending habits that would be hard to break without a lot of self-discipline.

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While I kind of like the first film, I thought an entire montage of Carrie sleeping and being sad in Mexico was a bit much. I can't imagine 2 more hours of the same thing!

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On 11/27/2018 at 1:16 AM, BookWoman56 said:

Doing okay financially is often not a function of exactly how much income someone has, but rather of whether they are willing to live within their means.

Right, there are plenty of wealthy people who end up with nothing because of their spending.  When I said I was under the impression that she was doing ok financially, I meant that I thought she was in a good position...more money from publishing the books along with not outspending her earnings.  Honestly, this wasn't exactly touched upon in the movie, so I have no idea why I even had an impression either way about Carrie's finances, yet somehow I did :)

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On 11/26/2018 at 7:02 AM, Inquisitionist said:

Wouldn't this just be a rehash of Charlotte, Miranda and Samantha consoling Carrie after Big ditched her at the altar?  That was nauseating enough the first time around.

Yes it would be - everyone stops what they are doing and hold Carrie's hand and look at her with sad eyes.  No one gets to have a life, ever.  Just be there for Carrie, ya know, how she is there for everyone else?  

Kim C needs a medal for turning this down.

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