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On 5/18/2024 at 12:10 PM, Carolina Girl said:

You're not the Madonna, hon.  Own it.  By the way, wasn't she also trying to get it on with Garcel's son earlier in the season?  The ambiguously MARRIED son?  Which was the catalyst for all the sturm and drang between her and Lala over the meaning of the word "mistress" IIRC.

When she found out he was married she dumped him, at least.  LVP was pissed! 😄

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16 hours ago, princelina said:

When she found out he was married she dumped him, at least.  LVP was pissed! 😄

True dat.  BTW I have to ask - am I the only one that DOESN'T believe Scheana's BS story that she didn't know Eddie was married?  I mean come ON, you just have to hit Google - and this is a girl who literally keeps tabs on everyone's whereabouts.  

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I call BS, this is someone who brags about the famous and semi-famous men she has slept with.  She is no innocent.

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22 hours ago, Kiki777 said:

I call BS, this is someone who brags about the famous and semi-famous men she has slept with.  She is no innocent.

The way her mind works (very evident when she was with Rob and Adam) I have no doubt she had fantasies that he would leave Brandi and be with her.  Oh, he would leave Brandi, Scheana - but believe me, he would not leave her for a NOBODY.

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I can believe Schaena didn't know when she MET Eddie. I never heard of him before RHOBH. But as much as I want to give her benefit of the doubt, isn't what someone does for a living one of the first things you learn about them? If I find out I'm dating an actor, even if I am not suspicious of him being married or sketchy in any way, I'd absolutely google him just to see his projects and whatnot. I think vast majority of women would do the same. His martial status should pop up without even seeking it out. 

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Kenya Moore, Real Housewives of Atlanta, is arguing that Sandoval is guilty of the same crime they accuse her of, but Bravo didn’t fire or suspend him. 
 

It’s not quite accurate. He recorded R, but didn’t share the recording. Ariana viewed it without asking his permission. Ariana only recorded the video on her own phone and sent it to R and no one else before Sandoval deleted it.
 

Also, if they pause VPR indefinitely, they are kind of firing or suspending the entire cast of VPR. 

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6 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Kenya Moore, Real Housewives of Atlanta, is arguing that Sandoval is guilty of the same crime they accuse her of, but Bravo didn’t fire or suspend him. 
 

It’s not quite accurate. He recorded R, but didn’t share the recording. Ariana viewed it without asking his permission. Ariana only recorded the video on her own phone and sent it to R and no one else before Sandoval deleted it.
 

Also, if they pause VPR indefinitely, they are kind of firing or suspending the entire cast of VPR. 

Oh I missed out the Kenya Moore suspension - what are the details?  

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16 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Kenya Moore, Real Housewives of Atlanta, is arguing that Sandoval is guilty of the same crime they accuse her of, but Bravo didn’t fire or suspend him. 
 

It’s not quite accurate. He recorded R, but didn’t share the recording. Ariana viewed it without asking his permission. Ariana only recorded the video on her own phone and sent it to R and no one else before Sandoval deleted it.
 

Also, if they pause VPR indefinitely, they are kind of firing or suspending the entire cast of VPR. 

@Carolina Girl

One detail. Ariana claims now that she and Sandoval were sued that the video was deleted by Sandoval, or that he broke his, or her phone on purpose. But the cast claimed they saw the video, and Bravo production probably did, as well because Ariana told Bravo within hours of finding the video.

Either way, it's not similar to what Kenya did. Kenya deliberately put placards with large R rated photos of a new HW at the opening of her new store, and described what it was about on camera, and used graphic and demeaning terms. She is known for having a nasty streak. 

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1 hour ago, ZettaK said:

@Carolina Girl

One detail. Ariana claims now that she and Sandoval were sued that the video was deleted by Sandoval, or that he broke his, or her phone on purpose. But the cast claimed they saw the video, and Bravo production probably did, as well because Ariana told Bravo within hours of finding the video.

Either way, it's not similar to what Kenya did. Kenya deliberately put placards with large R rated photos of a new HW at the opening of her new store, and described what it was about on camera, and used graphic and demeaning terms. She is known for having a nasty streak. 

I tried to google but couldn’t locate. Could you provide a link? Thanks!

Why did Kenya feel the need to humiliate this new housewife? Do they have a history? Thank you again!

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4 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I tried to google but couldn’t locate. Could you provide a link? Thanks!

Why did Kenya feel the need to humiliate this new housewife? Do they have a history? Thank you again!

As a RHOA watcher I think it is like George Mallory talking about Everest.

Why does she do it, because they are there......

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On 6/27/2024 at 5:40 AM, hoodooznoodooz said:

Kenya Moore, Real Housewives of Atlanta, is arguing that Sandoval is guilty of the same crime they accuse her of, but Bravo didn’t fire or suspend him. 

I think the thing Kenya is "forgetting" is that whatever transpired with Sandoval and the video, it happened off camera after production had wrapped. Kenya is accused of bringing the photos to an event that was being filmed for the show. I don't see how Bravo could have done anything other than suspend (and maybe fire) her.

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On 6/28/2024 at 1:27 PM, KristenR said:

I think the thing Kenya is "forgetting" is that whatever transpired with Sandoval and the video, it happened off camera after production had wrapped. Kenya is accused of bringing the photos to an event that was being filmed for the show. I don't see how Bravo could have done anything other than suspend (and maybe fire) her.

Yet I still see the misogynist double standard, especially with that whole redemption tour BS this past season.

Another example from Bravo, on RHONJ the men pulled up & watched porn scenes of a female castmate while they being filmed. 

Seemingly, the men can do what they want while only the ladies are punished. 

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On 6/28/2024 at 12:27 PM, KristenR said:

I think the thing Kenya is "forgetting" is that whatever transpired with Sandoval and the video, it happened off camera after production had wrapped. Kenya is accused of bringing the photos to an event that was being filmed for the show. I don't see how Bravo could have done anything other than suspend (and maybe fire) her.

Agreed. 

10 hours ago, snarts said:

Yet I still see the misogynist double standard, especially with that whole redemption tour BS this past season.

Another example from Bravo, on RHONJ the men pulled up & watched porn scenes of a female castmate while they being filmed. 

Seemingly, the men can do what they want while only the ladies are punished. 

I haven't gotten to this season yet, but that's what I've heard. I do see your point. It's like the women in the cast have be angels, but the guys can do anything but kill someone, and all will be forgiven. 

For me there is a big difference between what Tom did and Kenya making a point to humiliate someone at an event with a bunch of people filming.

I completely agree with you about the RHONJ though. Danielle Staub was not my favorite Housewife, but I was so disgusted by that scene. She should have been protected. I think it was Joe Gorga who pulled the porn up. I can find him funny a lot of times, but I was horrified by that and couldn't believe he did it. There should have been repercussions for that situation too. 

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6 hours ago, snarts said:

Yet I still see the misogynist double standard, especially with that whole redemption tour BS this past season.

Another example from Bravo, on RHONJ the men pulled up & watched porn scenes of a female castmate while they being filmed. 

Seemingly, the men can do what they want while only the ladies are punished. 

But it's not a case of sexism here. Sandoval had a video of his "girlfriend" in his phone, and he didn't show it to anybody. Ariana found it. I'm sure he didn't want her to see it. He also said in his answer to Rachel's lawsuit that Rachel recorded herself, and sent him the video, he didn't record her during their FaceTime. It happened more than four months after that season was filmed. 

Kenya attacked and exposed a new cast member she didn't know at the very beginning of the filming season. On the show. What would the woman have done, and even if she did, is this a proper way to react? Kenya is not going to get any sympathy by comparing the cases.

As for some men on RHNJ, they are disgusting.

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10 hours ago, snarts said:

Yet I still see the misogynist double standard, especially with that whole redemption tour BS this past season.

Another example from Bravo, on RHONJ the men pulled up & watched porn scenes of a female castmate while they being filmed. 

Seemingly, the men can do what they want while only the ladies are punished. 

On RHoBH the ladies pulled up soft porn videos of Camille Grammer when they were mad at her.  

3 hours ago, ZettaK said:

But it's not a case of sexism here. Sandoval had a video of his "girlfriend" in his phone, and he didn't show it to anybody. Ariana found it. I'm sure he didn't want her to see it. He also said in his answer to Rachel's lawsuit that Rachel recorded herself, and sent him the video, he didn't record her during their FaceTime. It happened more than four months after that season was filmed. 

Really?  Ha! I never believed he filmed her while she was unaware.

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On 6/28/2024 at 1:12 AM, ZettaK said:

@Carolina Girl

One detail. Ariana claims now that she and Sandoval were sued that the video was deleted by Sandoval, or that he broke his, or her phone on purpose. But the cast claimed they saw the video, and Bravo production probably did, as well because Ariana told Bravo within hours of finding the video.

Either way, it's not similar to what Kenya did. Kenya deliberately put placards with large R rated photos of a new HW at the opening of her new store, and described what it was about on camera, and used graphic and demeaning terms. She is known for having a nasty streak. 

Sorry. Once again. What cast member claimed to have seen the video?

Rachel and her lawyers have now changed their story since Ariana submitted proof via the text to Logan that Sandoval deleted the video. Now it’s Ariana had no right to go into Sandoval’s phone and copy the video to herself. “Boundaries” were crossed when she sent it to Rachel.  
 

Ariana pretty much had his tacit permission to go into his phone since he gave her his password. I wonder if Sandoval can prove Rachel recorded herself and sent it to him. That’s a new twist. He’s also a habitual liar - but so is she.

The Kenya thing confuses me. Did she really put up “posters” at the opening of her hair salon of the new HW giving some guy a BJ? That’s just beyond. If so she’ll be twirling away now. 


 

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18 hours ago, ZettaK said:

He also said in his answer to Rachel's lawsuit that Rachel recorded herself, and sent him the video, he didn't record her during their FaceTime.

This is incorrect.  He is saying he recorded WITH her permission, not that she recorded a video on her own and sent it to him.  From the LA Times article:

Sandoval’s motion counters the accusations, alleging that “these videos were created by Leviss and published by Leviss to Sandoval via a consensual exchange on Facetime, i.e., ‘their video calls.’”

  They both agree this happened during a Facetime session, he says Rachel knew she was being recording, Rachel says Tom recorded her without permission.  No one is saying (correctly, anyway) that Rachel sent Tom a pre-recorded video.

3 hours ago, Jennifersdc said:

Sorry. Once again. What cast member claimed to have seen the video?

 

I keep asking the same question, and can't get an answer no matter how many times someone claims there are people who have seen this video.  There's simply no evidence so far, but that doesn't seem to stop people from making the claim.  However, I'd like to point out that even in the filing it says: 

"Leviss is informed and believes ... that Madix obtained the videos of Leviss from Sandoval's mobile phone and distributed and disseminated them to others, including but not limited to Madix herself, Leviss, and other individuals whose identities are not currently known to Leviss," the complaint says.

So even Rachel doesn't claim to know of anyone who has seen the video, she just thinks others have.  So it doesn't seem that Rachel filed this lawsuit because someone told her they saw the video, or that she has heard second-hand someone saw it.  I think she didn't know it the video was deleted off of Ariana's phone.  I suspect (and this is based on NO EVIDENCE, just my conjecture) that she wanted to ensure it didn't get out, she wanted publicity, and she wanted money.

LA Times article cited: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2024-04-29/tom-sandoval-ariana-madix-respond-rachel-leviss-revenge-porn-lawsuit

NBC article cited: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rachel-leviss-vanderpump-rules-sues-tom-sandoval-ariana-madix-alleges-rcna141217

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I get Rachel wanting to ensure this video doesn't see the light of day. I even get wanting to punish Sandoval for recording it without her permission (if that's indeed what happened). I do not get dragging Ariana into this lawsuit when she's the real victim of the situation.

https://realityblurb.com/2024/07/01/rachel-leviss-slams-ariana-madixs-frivolous-request-to-be-dismissed-from-lawsuit-plus-is-she-planning-to-add-bravo-and-vanderpump-rules-producers-to-revenge-porn-lawsuit/

It now feels 100% like a money grab. Go slither away, Rachel.  

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1 hour ago, snarts said:

I get Rachel wanting to ensure this video doesn't see the light of day. I even get wanting to punish Sandoval for recording it without her permission (if that's indeed what happened). I do not get dragging Ariana into this lawsuit when she's the real victim of the situation.

https://realityblurb.com/2024/07/01/rachel-leviss-slams-ariana-madixs-frivolous-request-to-be-dismissed-from-lawsuit-plus-is-she-planning-to-add-bravo-and-vanderpump-rules-producers-to-revenge-porn-lawsuit/

It now feels 100% like a money grab. Go slither away, Rachel.  

Agree. Rachel has put Ariana through enough. If no one else saw the video, just make sure it never sees the light of day and move on. 

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On 7/2/2024 at 9:12 AM, snarts said:

I get Rachel wanting to ensure this video doesn't see the light of day. I even get wanting to punish Sandoval for recording it without her permission (if that's indeed what happened). I do not get dragging Ariana into this lawsuit when she's the real victim of the situation.

https://realityblurb.com/2024/07/01/rachel-leviss-slams-ariana-madixs-frivolous-request-to-be-dismissed-from-lawsuit-plus-is-she-planning-to-add-bravo-and-vanderpump-rules-producers-to-revenge-porn-lawsuit/

It now feels 100% like a money grab. Go slither away, Rachel.  

It's payback for Ariana who went to Bravo production to ask them to resume filming, with the result of Rachel becoming a pariah.

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On 7/1/2024 at 12:15 PM, lasu said:

This is incorrect.  He is saying he recorded WITH her permission, not that she recorded a video on her own and sent it to him.  From the LA Times article:

 

  They both agree this happened during a Facetime session, he says Rachel knew she was being recording, Rachel says Tom recorded her without permission.  No one is saying (correctly, anyway) that Rachel sent Tom a pre-recorded video.

I keep asking the same question, and can't get an answer no matter how many times someone claims there are people who have seen this video.  There's simply no evidence so far, but that doesn't seem to stop people from making the claim.  However, I'd like to point out that even in the filing it says: 

 

 

So even Rachel doesn't claim to know of anyone who has seen the video, she just thinks others have.  So it doesn't seem that Rachel filed this lawsuit because someone told her they saw the video, or that she has heard second-hand someone saw it.  I think she didn't know it the video was deleted off of Ariana's phone.  I suspect (and this is based on NO EVIDENCE, just my conjecture) that she wanted to ensure it didn't get out, she wanted publicity, and she wanted money.

LA Times article cited: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2024-04-29/tom-sandoval-ariana-madix-respond-rachel-leviss-revenge-porn-lawsuit

NBC article cited: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rachel-leviss-vanderpump-rules-sues-tom-sandoval-ariana-madix-alleges-rcna141217

I can't read the LA Times article because it's behind a paywall. The NBC News article says:

"Leviss is informed and believes ... that Madix has obtained at least two illicit videos of Leviss and distributed them and/or showed them to others with Leviss' knowledge or consent," it says.

Leviss said she has good reason to believe multiple other people have possession of the videos, as well."

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On 7/2/2024 at 6:12 AM, snarts said:

I get Rachel wanting to ensure this video doesn't see the light of day. I even get wanting to punish Sandoval for recording it without her permission (if that's indeed what happened). I do not get dragging Ariana into this lawsuit when she's the real victim of the situation.

https://realityblurb.com/2024/07/01/rachel-leviss-slams-ariana-madixs-frivolous-request-to-be-dismissed-from-lawsuit-plus-is-she-planning-to-add-bravo-and-vanderpump-rules-producers-to-revenge-porn-lawsuit/

It now feels 100% like a money grab. Go slither away, Rachel.  

Absolutely - I doubt that podcast is paying off the way she thought it would. If this doesn't get bounced on a demurrer, I think the California courts will kick It to the curb on summary judgment.  But before that, money grubber is going to have to answer a shitload of discovery and no doubt submit herself to a deposition.  And the more people she sues, the greater number of lawyers grilling her.  I think she was hoping for a settlement.  I'm curious if her lawyer took this on contingency.  Considering what a fucking LIAR she is, I certainly wouldn't.

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Rachel needs to fuck off with this lawsuit. I don’t feel bad at all for her she is just looking for a payout. Don’t send videos to a guy in a long term relationship. Sandoval is trash too. Ariana should not even be brought into this lawsuit. What a joke & waste of time.

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Revenge sex law (statutes) in California (Penal Code Section 647 (4), and Civil Code Section 1708.85 (a)), on top of laws against production, and distribution of pornography. 

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On 7/2/2024 at 9:12 AM, snarts said:

I get Rachel wanting to ensure this video doesn't see the light of day. I even get wanting to punish Sandoval for recording it without her permission (if that's indeed what happened). I do not get dragging Ariana into this lawsuit when she's the real victim of the situation.

https://realityblurb.com/2024/07/01/rachel-leviss-slams-ariana-madixs-frivolous-request-to-be-dismissed-from-lawsuit-plus-is-she-planning-to-add-bravo-and-vanderpump-rules-producers-to-revenge-porn-lawsuit/

It now feels 100% like a money grab. Go slither away, Rachel.  

From another article (link below):

(Apr. 30 2024)

Madix denied those claims and demanded her name be stricken from the lawsuit, claiming she never sent the videos to anyone other than Leviss.

But Leviss' legal team Mark Geragos and Bryan Freedman don't believe her, and are looking forward to their day in court, telling us, "The only thing more laughable than Ariana’s motion is her fairytale account of how she discovered the relationship from Tom’s phone."

"Meanwhile, we look forward to cross examining her on her declaration, as we have irrefutable evidence that the videos were distributed," the statement continued. "Lastly, the forensic 'expert' states that the video is not 'NOW' on her phone, well after the events in question and with months of notice that her actions had put her in legal jeopardy."

https://radaronline.com/p/ariana-madix-text-messages-raquel-leviss-lawsuit-sandoval-affair/

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3 hours ago, ZettaK said:

But Leviss' legal team Mark Geragos and Bryan Freedman don't believe her,

Ah...this seems to come the closest to answering my question. If they felt that what Ariana has said she's done counts as distribution, they would have said so. They would have said "additionally" when talking about her sending to other people than back to Rachel. They said that her story was laughable and that they have irrefutable proof she sent it to others. Again, if Ariana had admitted to doing something wrong in her response, they be pointing to that, not saying they have secret evidence of different wrongdoing. I also don't think Ariana’s lawyers would have let her incriminate herself. So, it seems Ariana making the recording isn't worth suing over, and sending it back to Rachel doesn't seem to be worth suing over. The lawyers say they have irrefutable proof she did more than that, so I'll be VERY interested to see that proof. 

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I’m surprised by the number of people who still get intimate on camera in the age of the internet or take nudie photos with all the hacking, especially if you’re a public figure. Not worth the risk folks! 

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22 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

I’m surprised by the number of people who still get intimate on camera in the age of the internet or take nudie photos with all the hacking, especially if you’re a public figure. Not worth the risk folks! 

This!  Unless someone has a hidden camera in the bedroom, don't expect me to think you didn't know about what you were doing. 🙄.

And just don't do it anyway 😄

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On 7/13/2024 at 8:46 PM, ZettaK said:

He is a celebrity attorney who represented Michael Jackson, Roger Clinton Jr, and many more others.

And his brother is representing Tim!  hahahahahaha.  Dying. 

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On 7/14/2024 at 3:47 PM, princelina said:

This!  Unless someone has a hidden camera in the bedroom, don't expect me to think you didn't know about what you were doing. 🙄.

And just don't do it anyway 😄

Agree! To be clear, I still very much believe in revenge porn laws even if I encourage everyone to be careful with what they do on camera. 

Anyone think Tom will film with his current girlfriend Victoria? She is a beautiful girl.  

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21 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

Anyone think Tom will film with his current girlfriend Victoria? She is a beautiful girl.  

If she's stupid enough to allow it 😄

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4 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

After finding out he’s suing Ariana, I wish Bravo would just fire him. 

I don't think there is going to be another season, that's why he sued.

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6 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

I wondered that. The ratings were still pretty good though, right?

Yes. Bravo showed reruns of The Shahs of Sunset recently. The show had high ratings, but Mike, one of the cast members physically abused his fiancee and she called the police/pressed charges (off season), and Bravo canceled the show. So, there are other factors in canceling a show, not only ratings.

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5 minutes ago, ZettaK said:

Yes. Bravo showed reruns of The Shahs of Sunset recently. The show had high ratings, but Mike, one of the cast members physically abused his fiancee and she sued (off season), and Bravo canceled the show. So, there are other factors in canceling a show, not only ratings.

Ohh I didn’t know that! Mike is trash for what he did to Paulina, but I do miss Shahs. 

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6 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

Ohh I didn’t know that! Mike is trash for what he did to Paulina, but I do miss Shahs. 

I'm watching all the seasons right now On Demand. One has to put up with the announcements, and promos of shows, you can't fast forward- at least in my system. 

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37 minutes ago, ZettaK said:

I'm watching all the seasons right now On Demand. One has to put up with the announcements, and promos of shows, you can't fast forward- at least in my system. 

In case you have it, I heard it’s on Peacock now. 

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On 7/17/2024 at 5:35 PM, ZettaK said:

Yes. Bravo showed reruns of The Shahs of Sunset recently. The show had high ratings, but Mike, one of the cast members physically abused his fiancee and she called the police/pressed charges (off season), and Bravo canceled the show. 

I must have missed that happening on Shahs of Sunset, but TBH, I think I had gotten tired of Reza and MJ's shit before that happened.

I read that Sandoval is suing Ariana for looking at his phone without his permission. Really? 

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15 hours ago, Gharlane said:

I must have missed that happening on Shahs of Sunset, but TBH, I think I had gotten tired of Reza and MJ's shit before that happened.

I read that Sandoval is suing Ariana for looking at his phone without his permission. Really? 

Yes. And he fired his attorney, and withdrew the lawsuit immediately because of the backlash on social media.

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