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Ugh, the actor playing Jake does not have the gravitas to pull off the serious scenes talking about his mom.

It's not a good sign when a guy orders two beers and breakfast or when the first thing he does when he gets out of bed is get a beer out of the fridge.

I really don't care about Jake or his weird relationship with Simone. I just want him to go away. OF COURSE he backed out of opening a place with Scott. On the plus side, that means Scott will still be around next season!

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Wow, in the last few minutes of the last episode Tess really lives up to her "Baby Monster" nickname.

Simone really messed Jake up, but Tess, you can't save him.

Nice to see that I'm not the only one who gets my Starz fix on Sunday mornings.

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This show is like all about eve for the restaurant business. 

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14 hours ago, NeenerNeener said:

Wow, in the last few minutes of the last episode Tess really lives up to her "Baby Monster" nickname.

Baby Monster, indeed. So you think she'll start sleeping with the boss rolling into the 3rd season? To spite Jake and If it's actually renewed.

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15 hours ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

Ugh, the actor playing Jake does not have the gravitas to pull off the serious scenes talking about his mom.

It's not a good sign when a guy orders two beers and breakfast or when the first thing he does when he gets out of bed is get a beer out of the fridge.

I really don't care about Jake or his weird relationship with Simone. I just want him to go away. OF COURSE he backed out of opening a place with Scott. On the plus side, that means Scott will still be around next season!

Tom Sturridge doesn't have gravitas? I think it's just a poorly-written role. He's a good actor.

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15 hours ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

I kinda hate this where the origin content was exhausted with the first season, but the show continues on without the basis. 

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23 minutes ago, Adultosaurus said:

Tom Sturridge doesn't have gravitas? I think it's just a poorly-written role. He's a good actor.

He has been terrible since S1.  Instead of coming off as sexy and aloof, he just seems bored and/or stoned no matter what the situation (“flirting” with Tess, discussing his dead mom, talking about his weird relationship with Simone).

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1 minute ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

He has been terrible since S1.  Instead of coming off as sexy and aloof, he just seems bored and/or stoned no matter what the situation (“flirting” with Tess, discussing his dead mom, talking about his weird relationship with Simone).

His character is exactly like this in the book.

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When Tess suggests firing Simone, I actually cheered. Tess and Simone fighting over Mr. Dumbfuck was so eye rolling.

I know Simone is supposed to be so amazingly talented at everything but what the Hell does she bring to the table she that lets her wield so much power in the restaurant? I hated the first season of this show and now I’ll be disappointed if there is no third season.

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On 8/15/2019 at 10:35 PM, qtpye said:

So both Tess and Simone turned down some really great guys to be with a man who is as fascinating as watching paint dry.

A rich handsome Frenchman marries you and whisks you away to his fantastic estate.  Not to mention, you both could make some of the best wines and champagnes in the world together. However, you choose to be a friendless waitress in New York and continue a situationship with the blandest fuck boy on the planet because it feeds into your queen bee delusions.  I wonder why you are not happy.

I think Simone needs to be in control at all times. Etienne said something about how she wouldn't allow anyone to get close to her, and I guess that would also mean giving up control (something that seems to be anathema to her). Jake is under her thumb completely. She allowed Tess to get close enough because she knew that Tess worshipped her (and lashed out at Tess when Tess questioned her relationship with Jake).

The restaurant, even though Simone is smart enough to know that it's a dead end, is a perfect little ecosystem she feels she can control completely, right down to telling Howard what to do, whereas she seems to have been out of her depth in France with Etienne's family and lifestyle. Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven, I guess.

It's been a little satisfying seeing Simone act out and come apart at the seams, after having to deal with her smugly dispensing words of wisdom and acting above everything for the better part of two seasons.

On 8/18/2019 at 7:18 AM, ElectricBoogaloo said:

Ugh, Jake continues to be THE WORST. He shows up at a group hang just to get Tess to leave with him. "I want to eat with you. Now. Alone." And even worse, she can't resist this asshole behavior and leaves without saying a word to everyone else. NOT COOL. If I was at a club and my friend said she was going to get a drink and never came back, I would be freaking out. But of course Tess has to drop everything whenever Jake calls. And of course she's fascinated by watching him eat shitty diner food.

Any person who says they never swooned over a hot jerk is lying. I mean, this is a coming of age story, and swooning over assholes because they're exciting and transgressive while overlooking nicer people because they're too safe, boring and predictable is definitely part of being young. So Tess being entranced with Jake not in spite of, but because of his horrible behaviour is very realistic.

12 hours ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

He has been terrible since S1.  Instead of coming off as sexy and aloof, he just seems bored and/or stoned no matter what the situation (“flirting” with Tess, discussing his dead mom, talking about his weird relationship with Simone).

Jake's a ridiculous character, when it comes down to it. He's almost a parody of the obnoxious, pretentious assholes girls in their twenties fall for, right down to the artistic hobby, the mommy issues, the rudeness, the tattoos, the drinking (to conceal his great inner suffering), etc. Tom Sturridge is playing Jake as if he's in on the joke.

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Even if Ari is a poor little rich girl who doesn't have to pay rent to live in the building that her parents own, why not cash her paychecks? She doesn't have to spend the money but she should at least deposit them. She seems to be spiraling so hopefully she doesn't OD.

If she's that rich, the paychecks probably don't mean anything to her. Ari being rich and working at the restaurant out of loneliness explains a lot about her.

9 hours ago, qtpye said:

I know Simone is supposed to be so amazingly talented at everything but what the Hell does she bring to the table she that lets her wield so much power in the restaurant? I hated the first season of this show and now I’ll be disappointed if there is no third season.

She has been there for so long and, it's implied, has acquired so much knowledge and experience within that time that it's difficult to replace her. Simone should remember that as she once warned Tess, everyone's expendable.

One thing I don't get about Simone and Jake is this thing that Simone "raised" Jake. How old is Jake supposed to be? Simone and Jake's actors are only three years apart.

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The only thing good about Tess and Jake's hookup was that Radiohead's "Sail to the Moon" was playing.  It's one of my favorites but I never hear it anywhere.  Otherwise, that whole scene was surprisingly underwhelming.   No chemistry, but they had to get this part going because the season is ending.  

Simone and Howard are very strange together.  Every conversation between them looks like it will lead to either intense sex or a shouting match.  

On 8/18/2019 at 9:18 PM, Ms Lark said:

So you think she'll start sleeping with the boss rolling into the 3rd season? To spite Jake and If it's actually renewed.

It definitely looks like Tess and Howard are going to have a fling, but I don't see her doing it to spite Jake.  If anything, Tess seemed disappointed that Jake let Simone manipulate him again, so she took matters into her own hands. 

However, getting involved with Howard would be disastrous at any rate.  It looks like a "Oops, we fell into bed because we had too many drinks" kind of thing.

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On 8/18/2019 at 11:06 PM, Adultosaurus said:

Tom Sturridge doesn't have gravitas? I think it's just a poorly-written role. He's a good actor.

I don’t like him in this either.  It’s not just the writing.  It’s difficult to believe two women are fighting over him which is essentially the plot 

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It has become clear that every show is required to foster racism, particularly among white people. Not a show goes by without some reference to white racism. It must truly have been handed down to all writers as a requirement. Oh, well.

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I just want Jake to close his mouth. He always looks bored with his mouth hanging open. 

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