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18 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

LMFAO. Someone needs to post this on Lauren's IG. We can see how long it takes her to notice.

I found it on reddit, and the Lauren/Josiah posts are apparently initially tagged “Siren”, but they change it to “Lauren Reported This For Harassment” when someone, who they suspect is Lauren, reports it.  

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1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

I didn't know that. Over a year in jail for raping and confining a male prostitute.

And a custodial sentence of such length isn’t handed out lightly in Britain.

Boy George really wanted to hurt him. 

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I want to see where there was a rape conviction.  Not gossip, not slander, not guessing, but a documented rape conviction. 

False imprisonment and abuse, yes.  Very bad, terrible things.  And 15 months in jail.  But there was no rape conviction I could find anywhere.

I really want to see what documentation some folks here are referring to.  

 

 

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15 minutes ago, leighdear said:

I want to see where there was a rape conviction.  Not gossip, not slander, not guessing, but a documented rape conviction. 

False imprisonment and abuse, yes.  Very bad, terrible things.  And 15 months in jail.  But there was no rape conviction I could find anywhere.

I really want to see what documentation some folks here are referring to.  

 

 

He did have to register as a sex offender, so I'm guessing his crimes involved some type of forced sexual contact.

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It's from a British tabloid, so take with a grain of salt, but this was the most extensive discussion I could find of what happened, according to the escort Boy George attacked:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/937243/boy-george-ruined-my-life-and-never-said-sorry-the-bbc-should-be-ashamed-says-man-singer-held-hostage-and-beat/

It's a very harrowing story but never says anything about rape. It does say Boy George threatened the victim with a sex toy, and it was at that point, the victim broke free. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

Well, it's a compared-to-what situation. With JB around, he was probably cock-pecked, which might be worse. Or at least as bad. And this way he doesn't have to sleep in a damn dormitory. 

Reminds me of Jingle talking about her interminable wait for a great husband, whom she married when she was....22. 

When the truth slips out, it appears that life at the TTH is not a jolly holiday with Mary. 

Jill, with her story of eating in the bathroom, should have set off alarms.  And then all the plate and counter lickers.  Add in the reality that not one of the children, especially the boys,  ever showed an ounce of typical pre puberty chubbiness.  The oppressive control of appearance is chilling.

Yet, mom and pop are still featured speakers.  Why.

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58 minutes ago, fonfereksglen said:

Jill, with her story of eating in the bathroom, should have set off alarms.  And then all the plate and counter lickers.  Add in the reality that not one of the children, especially the boys,  ever showed an ounce of typical pre puberty chubbiness.  The oppressive control of appearance is chilling.

Yet, mom and pop are still featured speakers.  Why.

At least Boobchelle didn't speak at their retreat last weekend. However, the Caldwells did. 

eta: Because it dawned on me that Boobchelle were probably asked to speak, declined, and recommended the Caldwells. It's not like the latter are well-known.

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10 hours ago, fonfereksglen said:

Jill, with her story of eating in the bathroom, should have set off alarms.  And then all the plate and counter lickers.  Add in the reality that not one of the children, especially the boys,  ever showed an ounce of typical pre puberty chubbiness.  The oppressive control of appearance is chilling.

Yet, mom and pop are still featured speakers.  Why.

I think a lot of fearful, control-freaky people crave having that oppressive control. That's what Gothard promised back when he started -- he promised it quite explicitly -- and he filled stadiums around the country for years with people who saw that as the ideal. 

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16 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

At least Boobchelle didn't speak at their retreat last weekend. However, the Caldwells did. 

eta: Because it dawned on me that Boobchelle were probably asked to speak, declined, and recommended the Caldwells. It's not like the latter are well-known.

 I don’t think they were asked to speak, I think they went to try to get on the radar of people that were running the conference and let them know that they were available to get one of their talks about their wonderful marriage.  You’ll notice that ever since the scandal, no one in the family has done a non-ATI speaking event.  Either that or something to the family directly controls like Jed!  And his little money laundering youth conference deal. 

 Given how they are basically poison, and would have to face some degree of scrutiny from the public, I don’t think will see many more personal  appearances. Maybe that’s why they started up with all the social media stuff all the sudden, because they can’t make a few quick thousand here and they’re doing talks or appearances or signing books anymore.  Got to make up for the lost income somehow. 

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1 hour ago, JoanArc said:

 I don’t think they were asked to speak, I think they went to try to get on the radar of people that were running the conference and let them know that they were available to get one of their talks about their wonderful marriage.  You’ll notice that ever since the scandal, no one in the family has done a non-ATI speaking event.  Either that or something to the family directly controls like Jed!  And his little money laundering youth conference deal. 

 Given how they are basically poison, and would have to face some degree of scrutiny from the public, I don’t think will see many more personal  appearances. Maybe that’s why they started up with all the social media stuff all the sudden, because they can’t make a few quick thousand here and they’re doing talks or appearances or signing books anymore.  Got to make up for the lost income somehow. 

Yep. And I think they're also losing a few bucks as the Gothard enterprise itself dwindles. Fewer non-Gothard events by far. But significantly fewer Gothard events as well, and certainly with fewer attendees.....and fewer Gothard DVDs and CDs of JB and M rambling on about their fabulous child raising and so on....Nobody pushing for new editions of JB"s and M's books or the girls' book any  more....

Those were all small moneymakers, of course. But they did bring in some cash. And now they're all gone, or almost gone, at the same time as the number of people the Duggs' earnings must support is swelling. 

I'd bet that, to some degree at least, they're reeling. 

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35 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

And now they're all gone, or almost gone, at the same time as the number of people the Duggs' earnings must support is swelling. 

 Good, I think we’re probably a couple of batches of grandchildren away from seeing a true crisis, and that’s without any more weddings which we know are coming.  I wish we had a few more solid data points about their income and investments, because you could pretty much extrapolate out when the whole enterprise is going to snap, crash, and burn.  Of course jettisoning Jill probably bought them a small amount of time, but they did lose out on the free vacations to central America that way. 

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57 minutes ago, SMama said:

Did I see Anna? I guess she’s making money for her incompetent Sex Pest.

Yeah, Anna was there in her birkies (at least she had shoes on, unlike most of the people pictured) holding MarYELLa.

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1 hour ago, Oldernowiser said:

Whose giant behind is that to the left in the second photo?

Looks like Joy to me - the hair looks like it's in a messy bun, which could also be Jana. Maybe the butt looks so big because the angle is distorted?

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1 hour ago, Oldernowiser said:

Whose giant behind is that to the left in the second photo?

That looked like the outfit Joy wore in her pic with Giddy out on the Back 40.

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I also thought that person was Joy. 

It now looks to me like Abbie is talking to Austin in the chairs. Not sure who the men are behind them. Who is the bald guy? Who's behind Austin with glasses? Is that Jana in the denim skirt at the easel? Finally who's in the red with the bob?

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5 hours ago, ginger90 said:

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The shoestring on her head looks ridiculous. At least she isn’t in pink lol.

13 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

That face is meme-worthy...

I look just like him. Help.”

”Dunno know who these people are but I do know they’re insane.”

”If I can fill up this diaper ASAP maybe they’ll let go of me.”

Jana come quick change errr what her name ? 
At these gatherings everyone should wear a name tag lol. 

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