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Dear God. I can't believe Julie is now proselytizing. Just so horrible to me, on so many levels. Rude, condescending, tasteless, tactless, etc. I imagine she wouldn't like it if people mailed her books about "How to Spot a Womanizer", "10 Clues Your Husband May Be Cheating", etc. What a (not-so-stealth) bitch. But I guess she has to make use of all those hours she's not on The Talk any more somehow...

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26 minutes ago, Victim Noises said:

Dear God. I can't believe Julie is now proselytizing. Just so horrible to me, on so many levels. Rude, condescending, tasteless, tactless, etc. I imagine she wouldn't like it if people mailed her books about "How to Spot a Womanizer", "10 Clues Your Husband May Be Cheating", etc. What a (not-so-stealth) bitch. But I guess she has to make use of all those hours she's not on The Talk any more somehow...

Gold. Pure gold. 

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I know that mileage varies greatly...and religion is the touchiest of touchy subjects, but Julie's recent need to share her faith doesn't bother me as much as it does some.  I'm not saying anyone shouldn't be bothered, I just wanted to provide a different perspective.  It may be that this new faith--or renewal of faith--is what she needs to get her through everything that is going on with her husband and her career.  If it's helped her, and it's something new and exciting to her, I can understand her wish to share it with others.  I get that it can be annoying (I had a friend who discovered "The Secret" and would not shut up about it, lol) but so long as she's not advocating hate or using religion to exclude people, I don't have a problem with it. 

I do find it surprising that the producers haven't put a stop to her on-air remarks because as the "neutral host" she could be (and seems to be) alienating many parts of the audience.

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31 minutes ago, leocadia said:

I know that mileage varies greatly...and religion is the touchiest of touchy subjects, but Julie's recent need to share her faith doesn't bother me as much as it does some.  I'm not saying anyone shouldn't be bothered, I just wanted to provide a different perspective.  It may be that this new faith--or renewal of faith--is what she needs to get her through everything that is going on with her husband and her career.  If it's helped her, and it's something new and exciting to her, I can understand her wish to share it with others.  I get that it can be annoying (I had a friend who discovered "The Secret" and would not shut up about it, lol) but so long as she's not advocating hate or using religion to exclude people, I don't have a problem with it. 

I do find it surprising that the producers haven't put a stop to her on-air remarks because as the "neutral host" she could be (and seems to be) alienating many parts of the audience.

I agree with you - people find faith at different times of their life. My faith got me thru some horrible times.

Julie is in the public eye and unfortunately she is married to a man with lots of credible accusations against him - only when those came out did she begin hyphenating her last last name. 

To me, she has been full of a lot of double standards and inconsistencies. But that doesn’t mean that Julie’s faith isn’t affecting her now and making her want to share her personal faith and spiritual growth with others.

While I think these are weird gifts to give to people that aren’t close personal friends, everyone has a different journey and their expression of that journey can take many forms.

All that being, said, she is in the public eye and her actions seem very inconsistent in general.

I am so happy that I wasn’t in the public eye for an major or minor mistakes I made in my life.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Stats Queen said:

Julie is in the public eye and unfortunately she is married to a man with lots of credible accusations against him - only when those came out did she begin hyphenating her last last name. 

Absolutely!  I completely understand why people would give her the side-eye and question her authenticity.  I also get that people do not like religion/religious ideals forced on them in the context of a reality tv show.  

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On 12/9/2020 at 8:13 PM, peachmangosteen said:

I would only be shocked if Cody N wasn't a covid denier. 

I love the photo they chose to head that article though. He looked completely insane, like someone you'd run away from if you met them on the street. 

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15 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

To me, she has been full of a lot of double standards and inconsistencies. But that doesn’t mean that Julie’s faith isn’t affecting her now and making her want to share her personal faith and spiritual growth with others.

I agree. It's far from the worst thing anyone has done on this show. People might laugh or find her irritating or hypocritical, but at least she isn't wrecking marriages by doing this, or giving people PTSD. 

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Getting uninvited religious related gifts can bring about PTSD symptoms for those who associate it with unpleasant people and/or events. I was gifted a bible and "advice" to go along with it. The people who gifted it to me were lucky that I'm a nice person who tries not to hurt others feelings even when they've hurt mine. 

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On 12/20/2020 at 1:18 PM, Jaded said:

Getting uninvited religious related gifts can bring about PTSD symptoms for those who associate it with unpleasant people and/or events. I was gifted a bible and "advice" to go along with it. The people who gifted it to me were lucky that I'm a nice person who tries not to hurt others feelings even when they've hurt mine. 

ITA. For some of us, Christianity had an incredibly damaging effect on our self-esteem and worth as human beings. I legitimately don't know how I would react if somebody tried to gift me a Bible. Also, Julie isn't that close with the Houseguests to be sending them something so personal IMO.

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Cowboy (S5 runner-up) is on MTV's Catfish right now. When you thought 2020 couldn't get more fucked up..

 

ETA: Now James Huling (BB17&18) is on. I can't!

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44 minutes ago, UniqBlue69 said:

Cowboy (S5 runner-up) is on MTV's Catfish right now. When you thought 2020 couldn't get more fucked up..

 

ETA: Now James Huling (BB17&18) is on. I can't!

Are they the fishers or the fishees?

 

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2 hours ago, UniqBlue69 said:

Cowboy (S5 runner-up) is on MTV's Catfish right now. When you thought 2020 couldn't get more fucked up..

 

ETA: Now James Huling (BB17&18) is on. I can't!

RIGHT as I clicked on this thread, I was also browsing HBO Max and thinking "be honest: would I rather watch Catfish instead". This is some sort of "ooh ooh witchy woman" kind of sign and I'm going to pay heed to the universe and go right to MTV.

Also: LOL can't wait to see this episode.

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10 hours ago, leocadia said:

Are they the fishers or the fishees?

 

From what I could find online fishees.
 

 

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To me, gifting bibles is equivalent to gifting books on why you should align with a particular political party, or how you should raise your kids. Religion is a personal decision that should be left to the individual. It’s one thing to give a bible to a close friend who you know would welcome one, it’s quite another to push your beliefs on near-strangers. If Julie is as enlightened as she presents herself to be, she should know the difference. 

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On 12/23/2020 at 5:38 PM, 30 Helens said:

To me, gifting bibles is equivalent to gifting books on why you should align with a particular political party, or how you should raise your kids. Religion is a personal decision that should be left to the individual. It’s one thing to give a bible to a close friend who you know would welcome one, it’s quite another to push your beliefs on near-strangers. If Julie is as enlightened as she presents herself to be, she should know the difference. 

Uhhh, define “push” please.  My own religious belief structures at present would most accurately be described as ambiguous, but I was raised Christian.  While Christianity does not require its adherents to force their beliefs on others, they are encouraged to share them with those who would listen - and I am unaware of any way such a sharing determination could be made without the simple existence of Christianity as a belief system being acknowledged.

Also - to me there is a BIIIIG difference between simply making information available to somebody (ex. giving them a book), and pushing/forcing your beliefs on them (ex. nagging, browbeating, or otherwise insisting they read it).  YMMV

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@Nashville: I was just reading about the explosion in Nashville this morning. I hope you and your family and friends are OK.

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2 hours ago, Lamb18 said:

@Nashville: I was just reading about the explosion in Nashville this morning. I hope you and your family and friends are OK.

So far so good - other than the fact I have murderous intent in my heart towards a particular set of as-yet-unknown miscreants, that is.

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On 12/25/2020 at 11:22 AM, Nashville said:

Uhhh, define “push” please.  My own religious belief structures at present would most accurately be described as ambiguous, but I was raised Christian.  While Christianity does not require its adherents to force their beliefs on others, they are encouraged to share them with those who would listen - and I am unaware of any way such a sharing determination could be made without the simple existence of Christianity as a belief system being acknowledged.

Also - to me there is a BIIIIG difference between simply making information available to somebody (ex. giving them a book), and pushing/forcing your beliefs on them (ex. nagging, browbeating, or otherwise insisting they read it).  YMMV

I couldn't agree with this more.  I don't have a problem with people trying to respectfully share differing beliefs with me, even if I have no intention of looking into them.  All ideas and beliefs have been perverted and used to harm by certain people, but the onus for that harm falls on those people, not the entire belief system.  I honestly think Kevin made a bigger deal out of it than it was.  Put it in the trash and move on, just like I do when I find a WatchTower in my mailbox, even after I kindly told them there was zero chance I would ever join their church.  I don't feel harassed that I have an extra piece of junk mail to toss every couple of months or so and I don't give a second thought to if they think I'm going to hell or not.  If by the off chance Julie did send it as a back-handed gift/insult, then he gave her the satisfaction she'd want, and if she was really just trying to be kind (even if it was tone deaf to some) then he was unnecessarily being snotty and condescending, some of the very behavior he holds against Christianity.  IMO, he came out looking worse than she did, although I know that is probably an unpopular opinion. 

I did enjoy Kevin pointing out how big Cody and Dani's heads looked in the cast picture.  Could it be a dig at them from someone in production?  I mean they both do figuratively have big heads.

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On 12/25/2020 at 12:22 PM, Nashville said:

Uhhh, define “push” please.

I think it comes down to intent— both actual and perceived. I’m going to give Julie the benefit of the doubt and assume she only meant to share something that is special and meaningful to her, without further agenda. And if the recipient welcomes that gesture, lovely. However... the fact that it’s a bible makes the intent harder to discern, especially for someone who is not a close friend. We’re not talking about a bouquet of flowers here. We’re talking about a book that, at its core, is a manual for how to live your life.

Gifting a bible can imply that the recipient’s current belief system is lacking, or they are otherwise in need of “saving”.  After all, if they were following the right path, they would already be adhering to the Bible and wouldn’t need another one, right? There’s a fine line between sharing and proselytizing, and sending a bible to a casual acquaintance, without context, is not the way to clarify your intent.  In Kevin’s case, I would understand if he took it as an insult, given how often the Bible has been used to condemn homosexuality. I’m sure he’s heard enough about Adam and Steve to last 3 lifetimes.

I would like to stress that I am not opposed to religion in any way. My family contains Episcopalians, Baptists, Jews and Atheists, and we all get along famously. I just think religion is a personal thing that should be embraced (or rejected) on an individual basis. By all means, discuss and share your beliefs with family and friends, but when it comes to strangers, give them a meaningful book of poetry. Or a bouquet of flowers.  Just my .02.

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For those of you who have seen the “Cowboy”/Michael episode of Catfish, what’s your take on it? It seems a bit fishy. (No pun intended). 

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23 minutes ago, Cramps said:

For those of you who have seen the “Cowboy”/Michael episode of Catfish, what’s your take on it? It seems a bit fishy. (No pun intended). 

I was sure that everyone just made the whole story up to get on TV, and there's no way she's actually romantically interested in him. But then they did spend Christmas together, so good for Cowboy, I guess? 

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5 hours ago, atomic said:

I was sure that everyone just made the whole story up to get on TV, and there's no way she's actually romantically interested in him. But then they did spend Christmas together, so good for Cowboy, I guess? 

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There is just so much to unpack/unwrap here that I don’t even know where to start... If it’s real, good for them.

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Ok, so I had a few minutes of boredom and decided to watch that full Catfish episode.  Hoo boy. I don’t know what was the weirdest part...

That Cowboy fell so hard for a woman who avoided visual contact that he was talking about having babies with her before he ever met her,

That even after finding out she is a wannabe nun virgin who stalks reality stars and sent nude pics to James Huling and covered up the camera on the Catfish zoom call because she was too darn shy to let Cowboy see her yet is fine with appearing on the TV show, he was relieved to find out she is the Real Deal and went all in on the dating,

Or that he is friends with Russell. Freaking. Hantz!

Oh, Cowboy.

 

 

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I hope that poor baby inherits her whine. It's only fair that she have to deal with it like the rest of the world has had to deal with hers. 

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2 hours ago, nkotb said:

I hope that poor baby inherits her whine. It's only fair that she have to deal with it like the rest of the world has had to deal with hers. 

I agree, but poor Victor! I'll never understand how he landed in this mess in the first place. 

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3 hours ago, IndyMischa said:

I agree, but poor Victor! I'll never understand how he landed in this mess in the first place. 

He wanted this! He spent 2 years wearing her down!

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3 hours ago, Growsonwalls said:

I also don't even have words for this. Kristen Bitting always seemed fairly grounded in the house:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJuoCJ7lRR0/

I somewhat remember her from season 10. It's sad to see people that once seemed kind of normal turn into that.

 

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From Twitter:

Robyn Kass

@Kassting

Bitter Sweet news. I’ve been offered some big opportunities in the New Year. After a lot of thought, I’ve decided to move forward w these projects & take a leave from #BB23. I am excited & have no doubt you’ll be in good hands this season!  Be safe & Happy New Year! #staytuned

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53 minutes ago, GeorgiaRai said:

From Twitter:

Robyn Kass

@Kassting

Bitter Sweet news. I’ve been offered some big opportunities in the New Year. After a lot of thought, I’ve decided to move forward w these projects & take a leave from #BB23. I am excited & have no doubt you’ll be in good hands this season!  Be safe & Happy New Year! #staytuned

I'm actually pretty OK with this. 

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Now if only AG would release her steely grasp, we might have a shot at a good season!

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Does this mean no white bromance this season?

(I hope my comment is not racist :S)

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