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11 minutes ago, Caseysgirl said:

From what I'm told, there are a lot of cobblestone streets in Barcelona and stilettos can not be very comfortable for sightseeing. Also, not conducive to driving those little carts. These women are not  dressed for touring with their wigs and lashes flying in the wind.there was nothing  about that place they were staying in looked terrible to me. When you are traveling, you should expect something different than what you are used to at home and it was very rude for all these hood rats to continue complaining about their accommodations when they aren't even paying for it.  Is it wrong that I don't have any problem with IKEA furniture. You'd think all these women were to the manor born the way they carry on.   

I thought they all (except Eva, who had on sneakers, and Sheree, who had on a tank top and simple pants), looked ridiculous for sightseeing. I've never been to Barcelona but I have been to a few other Spanish cities, and I encountered lots of cobblestones. I know they're on TV, but they looked like they were going to the club to walk around and see the sights. Wigs (I wonder if they all pack a separate suitcase for wigs?), lashes, faces beat for the cheap seats ... it's just too much. I wonder if they ever wear jeans and tank tops and flip-flops?

There is not a thing wrong with Ikea furniture. Its quality has improved over the years. My mother has my old coffee table, which is from Ikea and is at least ten years old.

I liked the way Eva handled the women, especially Shamea (note to Bravo: stop trying to make Shamea happen). She was calm but taking no shit.

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2 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

Eva and Shamea are not picking on Porsha. The same old bitches are, and we're not really sure where Nene is playing. Not defending Porsha at all, she is beyond ignorant but without her, there's a whole lot of empty space in the show. The ladies would do better to just ignore her. 

I guess what I am saying is the "block" Nene, Cynthia, Kenya and Kandi-don't even bother to go to Porsha's events.  So they bring in second stringers  to support Porsha all the while Porsha keeps nipping at the block's heels to get back in.   So they do ignore her and she keeps trying to be relevant.  I am not blaming the other women but there is someone at Bravo that demands Porsha be on the show and I don't get the appeal.  She is not particularly good at anything.  I have been checking the ratings and they are sinking-someone at Bravo needs to start paying attention.  

I do find it odd they booked the trip to a place that was the recent site of a terrorist attack on pedestrians and with intense civil unrest.  So I guess it is not for lack of effort the producers can't find an interesting story line.  

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Do we really need to justify why you aren't required to be a sinless person to hold someone accountable for false accusations of drugging and rape? Come the hell on now. I know this is a reality show that loves to produce drama but there are lines that shouldn't be crossed and regardless of what kind of petty arguments they get in on the show, they don't have to be angels in order to feel violated and harassed by such severe allegations like the one Porsha made last season. God bless you if an apology would have been enough for you but it's entirely okay for people, especially Kandi, to want Porsha to feel the consequences for her loose, dumb mouth. Porsha used a public platform to share false, incriminating information about one of her colleagues. The appropriate consequences should have been loss of her employment on the show, taking away said platform, as well being adequately sued for defamation of character. We all know that the contracts on this franchise prevent the women from pursuing legal action against one another, just another way to give the women some security to incite drama without fear of legal repercussions.

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35 minutes ago, Caseysgirl said:

From what I'm told, there are a lot of cobblestone streets in Barcelona and stilettos can not be very comfortable for sightseeing.

They have them in Richmond, VA, along with brick sidewalks. I went flying in high heels one night and never wore them to go out with my friends again.

 

35 minutes ago, Caseysgirl said:

hood rats

I agree. Good visual. LOL

10 minutes ago, bosawks said:

In the fight between Nene, Kim and the cockroaches I am firmly on the side of the cockroaches.

I feel sorry for them. All that yelling and wig hair they have to live with.

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Why is everyone acting as if the Atlanta women are the only ones who

1. complain the entire time they are on a free trip

2. turn up their noses at accommodations no matter how fabulous 

3. do not wear appropriate footwear and or clothing for sightseeing

4. argue LOUDLY in restaurants

5. make rude and inappropriate comments about their host country, the food etc

And I will say this - for all Nene faults and over the top behavior the one person I feel like she genuinely and truly loved was Porsha and it was evident today when she tried to get Marlo to back off and when she was telling her she needs to own what she did every time someone brings it up instead of constantly deflecting.

Shemea is a kleenex. Only good for one time use and should then be tossed and never seen again.

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22 minutes ago, Boofish said:

Why is everyone acting as if the Atlanta women are the only ones who

1. complain the entire time they are on a free trip

2. turn up their noses at accommodations no matter how fabulous 

3. do not wear appropriate footwear and or clothing for sightseeing

4. argue LOUDLY in restaurants

5. make rude and inappropriate comments about their host country, the food etc

And I will say this - for all Nene faults and over the top behavior the one person I feel like she genuinely and truly loved was Porsha and it was evident today when she tried to get Marlo to back off and when she was telling her she needs to own what she did every time someone brings it up instead of constantly deflecting.

Shemea is a kleenex. Only good for one time use and should then be tossed and never seen again.

In fairness, I see many of these posters in the other RH threads and they are consistent with their criticisms of how the women behave. Complaining on trips, inappropriate clothing choices for touring, arguing loudly in restaurants, etc. are all pretty common criticisms across the board for all of the franchises it seems. I may be mistaken but so far, I think the Potomac women may be the only ones who haven't had a huge fight with one another while in public together.

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30 minutes ago, RHJunkie said:

In fairness, I see many of these posters in the other RH threads and they are consistent with their criticisms of how the women behave. Complaining on trips, inappropriate clothing choices for touring, arguing loudly in restaurants, etc. are all pretty common criticisms across the board for all of the franchises it seems. I may be mistaken but so far, I think the Potomac women may be the only ones who haven't had a huge fight with one another while in public together.

This may be true but none of the other women are ever referred to as nappy head, ghetto and hood rats. 

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4 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

I know what I want from Porsha-quit be a victim.  Get off the show.  She is an aggressive, physically abusive, malicious bully who goes after the other women over their age, insults their men, their sexuality, their successes and then cries when the other women do not want to celebrate her success.  She was horrible to Claudia Jordan and Claudia never did anything but try and get acquainted with a co-worker.

Kandi felt the brunt of Porsha's comments from the world.  She was compared to Bill Cosby.  Porsha stuck by her story and covered for her source until she there was no way out and then she turned into a victim.  Mama Joyce said it best-did Porsha really believe Kandi wanted to drug or rape her?  Independent thought is very important and Porsha elected to not exercise however few brain cells she has and go for the most heinous of gossip, hiding behind a clause that protects her assets.  

I have felt that Porsha was a grandstanding, self-victimizing bully from her very first season. It's hugely gratifying to see that she finally did go too far and that the tides have largely turned against her.

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6 hours ago, WireWrap said:

I think Porsha's apology was real but she waited for the cameras to be present to do it. That said, I don't think Kandi would have met with her or taken a call from her had the camera's not been present either. Of course Kandi doesn't have to accept the apology, that is her decision.

I think Kandi is smart for not doing it off-camera since the Porsha, I think, lies about things when there are no camera to prove her wrong.

 

3 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

I do find it odd they booked the trip to a place that was the recent site of a terrorist attack on pedestrians and with intense civil unrest.  So I guess it is not for lack of effort the producers can't find an interesting story line.  

Did that terrorisg attack occur while they were there, hence them fretting about the cops and mobs in the teaser for next week?

 

3 hours ago, bosawks said:

In the fight between Nene, Kim and the cockroaches I am firmly on the side of the cockroaches.

Isn't Kim one of the cockroaches?

 

What is the deal with Cynthia's group bucket list?

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17 minutes ago, Ubiquitous said:

I think Kandi is smart for not doing it off-camera since the Porsha, I think, lies about things when there are no camera to prove her wrong.

 

Did that terrorisg attack occur while they were there, hence them fretting about the cops and mobs in the teaser for next week?

 

Isn't Kim one of the cockroaches?

 

What is the deal with Cynthia's group bucket list?

This is exactly what I'm thinking I did a quick google search (nothing down and dirty, just a cursory one) to see if the dates coincided and I'm coming up blank of the the HW were in Barcelona.  But it has to be at the same time, especially as you said with the police action in the previews.  

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51 minutes ago, Boofish said:

This may be true but none of the other women are ever referred to as nappy head, ghetto and hood rats. 

Hmm, now that you mention it and I think back to the kind of comments I've read across the various RH boards, I feel that the terminology is different (plays on stereotypes) but the intent of the insults are likely the same. On Atlanta and even reference to a couple of the Potomac women, the term ghetto is used, but in reference to the white women, the term trashy and classless is often used. The white women get called out for their poor use of extensions while I guess the Atlanta women get called out for their hair texture (I haven't seen this particular comment personally but doesn't surprise me at all that it exists). While the Atlanta women are called hood rats, the white women are called trailer trash. But I think this probably gets into a conversation that's a bit more deep than episode opinions and a tad bit more controversial at that. Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if the correlations made that influence which words one uses is far more subconscious than not.

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1 hour ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

N:  Listen, they gone keep using this against you (bravo editing shade team shows Nene using it against her lol) and bringing it up until YOU OWN what you said and did to Kandi in front of the whole group.   

P:  I said that to people one on one though, especially Kandi.   I been said that.   If I thought that was the magic bullet (ya'll is this what she said?) to get em to leave me alone, I would say it.  

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Oh.  Mah.  Gerd.  Nene liter-ally just told you how what you've already said is different from what needs to be said.   Shocking and concise level of awareness considering the source, but I'm not picky.   Contrition involves accountability.   Without it, you just making sounds with your mouth.   To each of Cynthia, Kenya and now Kandi, what needed to be said was:   I'm sorry I put my hands in your face.   I'm sorry I dragged your ass off the couch onto the floor.   I'm sorry I accused you and your husband of a thing I know now you would never do.  I shouldn'tve believed it and I should never have repeated it and I'm sorry that I hurt you.   Hell, the fact that they're contractually bound from litigation is what should make this easier for her to do.   That's a grown ass woman.   Instead they get "I'm sorry for my part in it"  "I regret allowing you to bring me to that level"  "I'm sorry if that hurt you".................................. 

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Mmmmnope.  That's a teeny bit too passive for the level of volatility in the original interaction baby girl.

We and they know she doesn't get that because, when confronted, her sweep it under the rug response is:  (a) "all" I did was repeat what my friend, the lawyer told me  (b) are you fighting Kandi's battles now?  (c) that situation don't have nothing to do with this.   

Well since I'm making the point that you're a gullible asshole who accepts then repeats outlandish sounding bits of information without question but is uncomfortable accepting the responsibility you have in furthering the mess once it's been confirmed as outlandish..........yeah, correlation.   

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Bigger picture is if you cannot resist being defensive about your actions, there's no way you're remorseful about them.    It's frustrating watching her continue to (legit, I think) not understand that.  She was so beat about Cynthia making an identical point just the day before.  Peter and the waitress(es).  He's sloppy so it's entirely conceivable but please, no more "I heard" chime-ins.  Not from Porsha.  Eva saw Will's ole cheating ass, has screenshots from Kwame's gram account and heard that man introduce her as his girlfriend with her own ears.   And she still stupidly upset at Eva on some I don't know you like that!   Right Cyn, that's exactly why she's credible, she don't know either of you well enough to give a damn how this turns out.   Ya big dummy.  

 

'mma have to respectfully but wholeheartedly disagree lol.    Under the heading of fucked up shit you did to me but I still have to be around you, I can let it go.   I can see you in the elevator and later in the kitchen and even say good morning and mean it.     But if somebody else shouldsunever get you all the way together...? and they wanna use me as a reference for the continuation of your fuckedupedness?  He ain't through with me yet.  I will fold one hand over the other, place both at my navel, standby, mop the gatherer's brow and proceed to enjoy each delicious word.    Forgiveness vs. Restoration.   I forgave.  I haven't repeated.  I ain't forgot.    

So, normally, I'm hella here with you.  We leave home for different.   But girl is not-terrible really our accommodation standard? Lol.  

Nailed it!

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8 minutes ago, RHJunkie said:

Hmm, now that you mention it and I think back to the kind of comments I've read across the various RH boards, I feel that the terminology is different (plays on stereotypes) but the intent of the insults are likely the same. On Atlanta and even reference to a couple of the Potomac women, the term ghetto is used, but in reference to the white women, the term trashy and classless is often used. The white women get called out for their poor use of extensions while I guess the Atlanta women get called out for their hair texture (I haven't seen this particular comment personally but doesn't surprise me at all that it exists). While the Atlanta women are called hood rats, the white women are called trailer trash. But I think this probably gets into a conversation that's a bit more deep than episode opinions and a tad bit more controversial at that. Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if the correlations made that influence which words one uses is far more subconscious than not.

You're a good egg, Charlie Brown.  

I'm struggling to come up with how to say that trailer trash refers mainly to people exhibiting classlessness because they're poor, while hood rat and ghetto seem most often to be interpreted as classlessness associated with being black.   

Wakandese to English translator says overall though, it's dog whistle-y as fuck.

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I grew up hearing the terms "white trash" and "trailer trash," and using them occasionally. In my dotage I realize that they are racist and elitist. I have family that have lived in trailers.

Anyway, my mind may still go there sometimes but I try not to say the words. I'm currently borrowing my mother's "cheap Christmas trash." Or "asshole," which is one-size-fits-all.

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I still don't get the fuss over the villa. It wasn't luxury, but it was cozy and as far as I know, clean. It's someone's home, so of course, it isn't going to be five stars. They were carrying on as if they were staying in Barcelona projects. 

No surprise that Porsha crashed. If you're wearing 5 in heels to drive a go-cart, then expect things to go left. 

There isn't enough money in the world to make me travel with Ho'wives. They're all uncouth. Deadass arguing over a welcome mat. 

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In the fight between Nene, Kim and the cockroaches I am firmly on the side of the cockroaches.

So say we all.

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Isn't Kim one of the cockroaches?

Now I'm picturing a cockroach with a cheap-ass plastic Barbie wig and duck-face lips.

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Does anyone know who Marlo really is? Is she really a paid escort as rumors claim? No other housewife or friend of Housewives is as mysterious as she is. She apparently lives in a nice home and has nice things, but no obvious means of actually paying for any of it. ( there are rumors that Ted Turner is actually Marlo’s “Big Papa”) 

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RHOA has always been unique in the case that the audience is made up of core Real Housewives franchise fans and fans of the LHH/BBW/BGC/Black Ink “type” of shows. For whatever reason the latter group tends to LOVE Porsha and defend her at all cost on social media. So much so that all season they were champions for Marlo recieving a peach, but now she’s trash and “Jealous of Porsha”. Not to mention that to them somehow Kandi was the villain in the Marlo/Porsha exchange for not telling the ladies to stop bringing up Porsha’s role “Rape-gate”. I wish someone could explain to me the appeal of Porsha to the younger viewers. 

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3 hours ago, Boofish said:

Why is everyone acting as if the Atlanta women are the only ones who

1. complain the entire time they are on a free trip

2. turn up their noses at accommodations no matter how fabulous 

3. do not wear appropriate footwear and or clothing for sightseeing

4. argue LOUDLY in restaurants

5. make rude and inappropriate comments about their host country, the food etc

And I will say this - for all Nene faults and over the top behavior the one person I feel like she genuinely and truly loved was Porsha and it was evident today when she tried to get Marlo to back off and when she was telling her she needs to own what she did every time someone brings it up instead of constantly deflecting.

Shemea is a kleenex. Only good for one time use and should then be tossed and never seen again.

I don't see that at all. This is ATL,  so we talk shut about ATL,  when in BH,  we talk shut about BH,  etc. 

I do agree with you about Nene and Oprah's though. Even when she's gone off on her/about her you can see it's from a genuine place of pain. 

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3 minutes ago, Liquid6 said:

RHOA has always been unique in the case that the audience is made up of core Real Housewives franchise fans and fans of the LHH/BBW/BGC/Black Ink “type” of shows. For whatever reason the latter group tends to LOVE Porsha and defend her at all cost on social media. So much so that all season they were champions for Marlo recieving a peach, but now she’s trash and “Jealous of Porsha”. Not to mention that to them somehow Kandi was the villain in the Marlo/Porsha exchange for not telling the ladies to stop bringing up Porsha’s role “Rape-gate”. I wish someone could explain to me the appeal of Porsha to the younger viewers. 

Because they don't realize you can never trust a big butt and a smile.

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11 minutes ago, cooksdelight said:

I wonder. They were all bitching about the mold when they left.

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I think they were exaggerating.  Quelle surprise right? lol.   Camera didn't show us any mold.     

I thought Victoria's house was lovely.   But.  The adjective she likes is luxurious.  lol.   I'd be mad as hell.  Facts matter at those rates. 

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44 minutes ago, Juliegirlj said:

Does anyone know who Marlo really is? Is she really a paid escort as rumors claim? No other housewife or friend of Housewives is as mysterious as she is. She apparently lives in a nice home and has nice things, but no obvious means of actually paying for any of it. ( there are rumors that Ted Turner is actually Marlo’s “Big Papa”) 

Marla said on WWHL last night the best gift she had received from a suitor was her home and one for her mom.  She also had a bunch crap that she apparently peddles on line.  Sounded more like she was a mistress or a girlfriend to someone elderly  whose family was smart enough to see Marla never became a wife.  She is presently not being kept and would like to marry and have children.

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I'm struggling to come up with how to say that trailer trash refers mainly to people exhibiting classlessness because they're poor, while hood rat and ghetto seem most often to be interpreted as classlessness associated with being black. 

So where does boughetto fit into all this? ;)

The first time I ever heard that word was when Kandi used it...and yes, I cracked up when she did.

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18 minutes ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

Camera didn't show us any mold. 

Would they do that, though? It’d be like admitting they didn’t have the budget for a nice place. It was bad enough everyone was giving Cynthia the side-eye. Production likes her.

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Nene yapping about how bad the fight really was- "securities" was called.  http://www.eonline.com/news/916503/nene-leakes-thinks-half-of-the-current-real-housewives-of-atlanta-should-lose-their-peaches   Nene rather outspoken about who should have a peach and how the pay should be distributed.  I noticed last night on WWHL with Marlo and Nene, Cynthia and Kandi were in the audience.  I wonder where Kenya was?  

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3 hours ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

You're a good egg, Charlie Brown.  

I'm struggling to come up with how to say that trailer trash refers mainly to people exhibiting classlessness because they're poor, while hood rat and ghetto seem most often to be interpreted as classlessness associated with being black.   

Wakandese to English translator says overall though, it's dog whistle-y as fuck.

I think you explained it well and I quite agree with that. There is definitely a distinction between being insulted for your status/circumstances vs the colour of your skin. Just the other day I saw gossip headline of Honey Boo Boo calling out people who told her to stop 'acting black' and they weren't saying that because she was being eloquent, smart and well put together. It took a 12 year old asking the question of 'how does one act a colour'? but I think those who perpetuate these kinds of stereotypes to begin with are unlikely to have understood the point that was being made. 

This is turning into a deeper analysis of RH Atlanta that I would have expected, lol. 

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4 hours ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

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I think they were exaggerating.  Quelle surprise right? lol.   Camera didn't show us any mold.     

I thought Victoria's house was lovely.   But.  The adjective she likes is luxurious.  lol.   I'd be mad as hell.  Facts matter at those rates. 

Love the gif. That is perfect.

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Does anyone here think the Beverly Hills Housewives would have stayed in that place without complaint?

Porsha was dead wrong for her accusations against Todd and Kandi, but who the fuck is Marlo Hampton to police anyone's behavior? The bitch's vocabulary is so limited she doesn't even know the word MOGUL. Is a call girl really who we're supposed to take etiquette lessons from? I have no problem with sex workers but own it or STFU. 

Eva leaving Shamea blowing in the wind during her attempt at shade was spectacular and the funniest thing I've seen on this show in a long time. Shamea's thirst is so real and so hilarious.

Cynthia needs to have all the seats trying to read somebody. Porsha was right about your huzzzbin chile so just accept it. She's been looking for a storyline for 3 seasons; fighting with Porsha will only make her look bad. She doesn't want those receipts out there. Cynthia clearly has bad taste in mates and great taste in people with whom to procreate.

Bravo needs to scrap this whole crew except Eva and rebuild. 

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Go Cars...my husband and I did it a few years ago in San Francisco, the hills were nuts with that little engine but so much fun, it had a GPS guided tour.  

The food market in Barcelona is amazing, so colorful, I am pea green with envy watching these women.

Why the Queen tiara Marlo? You are a grown up.

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8 hours ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

You're a good egg, Charlie Brown.  

I'm struggling to come up with how to say that trailer trash refers mainly to people exhibiting classlessness because they're poor, while hood rat and ghetto seem most often to be interpreted as classlessness associated with being black.   

Wakandese to English translator says overall though, it's dog whistle-y as fuck.

Take ya time preacher!!

However, if we have all agreed to pretend those terms have nothing to do with them being black then so be it .. 

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22 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

So Nene takes over Cynthia's trip and announces that she has gotten hotel rooms and Cynthia has nothing to say?

I think Cynthia was pretty relieved.  Her comments from her Bravo Blog:  My first impression of the villa was that it was nice, but definitely not a good fit for these ladies. I could have made it work, but I must admit that I was also comfortable at the Hotel De Arts. Actually, the one thing we all agreed on was that none of us were thrilla to stay at the villa! LOL!

Here is where they relocated:  http://www.ritzcarlton.com/en/hotels/spain/barcelona#Hotel

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2 hours ago, Drumpf1737 said:

Does anyone here think the Beverly Hills Housewives would have stayed in that place without complaint?

 

I don't know about the BH HoWives, but I'd bet the farm that  Shatner and Company (Better Late Than Never) would stay without staging an active rebellion.  BTW, Better Late Than Never took those guys to Barcelona this season, too. I wonder if NBC (parent company of Bravo) got a group rate.

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1 hour ago, cooksdelight said:

Not to mention her trying to axe Porsha a question.

Well none of them are Emily Bronte, but just the fact Marlo's so loud makes me hate her guts! She's always $#!t-stirring even though she's not an official part of the group! She oversteps her bounds just like Shamea who had no right inquiring about Eva's sexuality! Rude b!tches BOTH! ;-(

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19 hours ago, cooksdelight said:

If we spot one running around with white hair, we’ll know.

 

17 hours ago, BBHN said:

So say we all.

Now I'm picturing a cockroach with a cheap-ass plastic Barbie wig and duck-face lips.

Well, Kim's daughter DID say she was trying to take a selfie and had to get on the floor...

 

17 hours ago, cooksdelight said:

I wonder. They were all bitching about the mold when they left.

Last week I think they said something about the linens (towels?) Not being recently laundered.

I for one was not impressed with that place.

 

16 hours ago, cooksdelight said:

Would they do that, though? It’d be like admitting they didn’t have the budget for a nice place. It was bad enough everyone was giving Cynthia the side-eye. Production likes her.

I'm not sure about that. They seem to be making Cynthia out to be the world's worst travel agent.

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Marlo's tirade outside after dinner was a fake as can be...she is alerted to the fact that police are approaching so she stops her roll completely, not one more word, just done.  She knows what will give her camera time.

Were we supposed to think that they would stay at the villa for the whole trip?  Nah, it was a way to add drama and I think we all knew they were going to wind up at a posh hotel that none of them would have been able to afford, (except for Kandi).

Speaking of Kandi, what was she wearing?  It looked like a mother of the bride dress with that shear drape with pearls, so matronly.  In fact none of those women dress for the activity they are doing except for Cynthia (on every vacation).  

It must be exhausting to have to be made up in full drag just for brunch or sightseeing not to mention packing a wig for every mood, lashes and at least 25 pairs of shoes for a 4 or 5 day vacation.

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That comment Sheree made about the Barcelona villa having "bars on the windows" just proves what a classless fool she is. That happens to be a design aesthetic that is used in many European villas. It has nothing to do with the safety of the neighborhood. Idiot. 

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