S22.E11: Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, Gwendoline Christie, Mark Hamill, Sam Smith

[Athena]

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Joining Graham Norton are the stars of Star Wars: The Last Jedi - Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, Gwendoline Christie and Luke Skywalker himself, Mark Hamill. And Sam Smith performs.

[Bruinsfan]

Mark had me rolling on the floor with that "telephone, telegraph, tell-a-Carrie" line! Love it that he and Graham have gotten to a point where they can laugh while reminiscing about her.

Gwendoline Christie had to be wearing heels, right? I know she's strikingly tall, but John Boyega barely came up to her shoulder—she'd have to be 6'8" or 6'9" for that to be true flat footed!

Edited December 31, 2017 by Bruinsfan

[dubbel zout]

Christie is 6'3".

[msrachelj]

that was really boring. didn't really like any of the guests. i love gwendolyn on game of thrones but i don't find her a compelling guest. mark hamil is a bit of a ham and i have no idea who the other two are don't care. oh well. 

[StatisticalOutlier]

I enjoyed the show and thought Mark Hamill was funny--what a strange life he must have being Luke Skywalker.  But I was distracted by how much Daisy Ridley looks like Keira Knightley, or maybe it was just the hair, and I'll never understand why women wear clothes that they have to be so careful about when they're sitting. 

I'd never heard of Sam Smith, but he seemed humble about his success, which I always like.

[MissLucas]

53 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

 I'll never understand why women wear clothes that they have to be so careful about when they're sitting.

She was definitely taped to the Nines.

[StatisticalOutlier]

6 minutes ago, MissLucas said:

She was definitely taped to the Nines.

Oh, definitely.  But even then, when Graham told everybody to scoot together after Hamill sat down, she adjusted her dress twice.

[MissLucas]

Yeah, I noticed that too. You gotta trust the tape, girl!

[Clanstarling]

Christie was definitely wearing heels (I double checked). So she was topping out at more than 6'3 - I couldn't tell quite how high the heels were, but even a modest 2 or 3 inches increases her towering form.

Hamill and Boyega are 5'9, and Norton is 5'8 (according to IMDB), so even if she had worn flats, she'd be significantly taller.

I enjoyed the couch, and particularly Hamill and Boyega. Hamill does some pretty good impressions. But then, he is an accomplished voice actor.

Daisy was a bit too worried with her dress. She'll learn, she's still new at this. That's a look only a certain build can carry off, and she has it (and for some reason, her in that particular dress reminds me of Keira Knightly, @StatisticalOutlier) 

I think I'd heard of Sam Smith, but didn't really know who he was. I really liked the song though, and plan to look up more of his music.

Edited January 1, 2018 by Clanstarling

[Quof]

You've definitely heard Smith's music, but you might not recognize him because he used to be quite a chunky monkey. 

[dubbel zout]

I liked the sofa. Daisy Ridley and John Boyega are ridiculously charming together.

I haven't see the movie yet, but I feel like something was kind of spoiled when they were talking about Carrie Fisher.

[Clanstarling]

55 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I liked the sofa. Daisy Ridley and John Boyega are ridiculously charming together.

I haven't see the movie yet, but I feel like something was kind of spoiled when they were talking about Carrie Fisher.

I've seen it, don't think anything was spoiled.

[walnutqueen]

18 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

But I was distracted by how much Daisy Ridley looks like Keira Knightley,

Yes, especially when she smiled.

[StatisticalOutlier]

Speaking of Daisy Ridley, I laughed when she was saying she doesn't really know what's going on in these Star Wars movies.  I'm the same way, but I still go because I like a huge spectacle on the big screen.  But every time I ask Mr. Outlier, "What exactly is a stormtrooper?" he rolls his eyes.

I do think it's pretty brave of her to admit not being a fangirl, though.  Hell, not even a fan, apparently.  And I think a certain element of the Star Wars "community" has problems with a female hero, so she's on thin ice already.  You go, girl.  Trust the tape.

I looked up what Sam Smith won the Oscar for, and found all the drama about and condemnation of his acceptance speech, extending to condemnations of him.  I now wonder if he keeps the Oscar hidden away because he's humble, as I originally thought, or because he doesn't want to be reminded of it.  Can't say I'd blame him.

[Clanstarling]

24 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

I looked up what Sam Smith won the Oscar for, and found all the drama about and condemnation of his acceptance speech, extending to condemnations of him.  I now wonder if he keeps the Oscar hidden away because he's humble, as I originally thought, or because he doesn't want to be reminded of it.  Can't say I'd blame him.

I didn't find any of the drama, though I'm interested. I know I watched the awards (since I always do), but the music awards tend to be the ones I get up to do something during.

[Amello]

12 minutes ago, Clanstarling said:

I didn't find any of the drama, though I'm interested. I know I watched the awards (since I always do), but the music awards tend to be the ones I get up to do something during.

He naively said he was the first gay man to win an Oscar. People, of course, crucified him and dragged him into the depths of hell.

[dubbel zout]

15 hours ago, Clanstarling said:

I've seen it, don't think anything was spoiled.

Good to know. Thanks, @Clanstarling!

[StatisticalOutlier]

1 minute ago, Clanstarling said:

I didn't find any of the drama, though I'm interested. I know I watched the awards (since I always do), but the music awards tend to be the ones I get up to do something during.

Example:

https://www.theverge.com/2016/2/29/11133080/sam-smith-speech-ian-mckellen-lgbt-academy-awards-2016

The article starts with a possibly valid criticism of his lack of research into what he said about being the first openly gay man to win an Oscar, but devolved into criticisms of the man himself:

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"Smith distances himself from certain stereotypes that small-minded, under-sexed people might negatively associate with young gay men who enjoy multiple partners and the ease at which modern technology can deliver them to your door," wrote Juzwiak. "If I’m being realistic and surveying his entire way of conducting himself as an out gay man, I’d say that what he’s suggesting is that you have to behave in a certain, non-deviant way to be considered equal, and that’s bullshit."

The sort of thing that @Amello accurately described as being crucified and dragged into the depths of hell.  And the thing is, he didn't just naively say it--he based it on something Ian McKellen said that it turned out required some context to be accurate.

[Clanstarling]

1 hour ago, Amello said:

He naively said he was the first gay man to win an Oscar. People, of course, crucified him and dragged him into the depths of hell.

 

1 hour ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

Example:

https://www.theverge.com/2016/2/29/11133080/sam-smith-speech-ian-mckellen-lgbt-academy-awards-2016

The article starts with a possibly valid criticism of his lack of research into what he said about being the first openly gay man to win an Oscar, but devolved into criticisms of the man himself:

The sort of thing that @Amello accurately described as being crucified and dragged into the depths of hell.  And the thing is, he didn't just naively say it--he based it on something Ian McKellen said that it turned out required some context to be accurate.

Ahh, I dimly remember this now. Just didn't connect it with him. Thank you.

[attica]

I enjoyed how much Graham was all 'yeah, no' for all of the red chair people. Teasing the woman for her lanyard shows just how much he pays attention, which is a hallmark of a truly good wit.

Ridley and Boyega are ridiculously charismatic. Ri-freaking-donk. Plus, having seen her as well in the new Murder on the Orient Express, Daisy gives amazing face on screen. The camera loves her.

I want to be friends with Gwendoline. I bet she's fun to drink with. I don't watch GoT, so I would never bother her about that kind of thing!  Also: one great (super awesome great) aspect of public restrooms in the UK is that their stalls and walls are floor to ceiling. No reaching over or under. So reassuring, privacy-wise. And seriously, if you want a selfie with her, you can't wait 5 freaking minutes for her to emerge and wash up?!? I'm with Graham: who does that?!?

[dubbel zout]

8 minutes ago, attica said:

And seriously, if you want a selfie with her, you can't wait 5 freaking minutes for her to emerge and wash up?!?

I remember Julia Roberts saying once someone passed her a pen and paper under the stall for an autograph. She declined. I think fans thing, "Oh, the celebrity is trapped and has to do what I want." Uh, no.

Also, it's the bathroom. You really want someone who hasn't yet washed her hands to use your pen? You really want a selfie in there? (For the latter I'd be temped to take a picture of the plumbing, just to be massively passive-aggressive.)

[StatisticalOutlier]

3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Also, it's the bathroom. You really want someone who hasn't yet washed her hands to use your pen?

I don't know...might it bring a higher price on Ebay if it's got Julia Roberts's bodily fluids on it?

[Clanstarling]

5 hours ago, attica said:

Also: one great (super awesome great) aspect of public restrooms in the UK is that their stalls and walls are floor to ceiling. No reaching over or under. So reassuring, privacy-wise. And seriously, if you want a selfie with her, you can't wait 5 freaking minutes for her to emerge and wash up?!? I'm with Graham: who does that?!?

My one foreign trip for business was to Belgium, and I was astonished, then very happy that the stalls were floor to ceiling. I also was thrilled that the windows in the office building actually opened. Little things mean a lot. :)

[peeayebee]

I too noticed how much Daisy reminded me of Keira Knightly. I've seen her before but don't remember thinking that.

I really enjoyed Mark Hamill and wanted to hear him tell stories one after the other. The rest of the couch was ok. I haven't seen the movie yet, but I'm going to see it either this week or next.

I had forgotten the criticism Sam Smith received after his Oscar acceptance speech. Mainly I remember not liking that song at all.