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Wife woke up feeling under the weather this morning and the forecast is cold and rainy all day, so we’re watching this game at home today.  Nobody wants a case of pneumonia for an early  Christmas present.  😞 

4 hours ago, Bruinsfan said:

I once bought a former roommate's immortal soul in exchange for a large cherry Coke.

Who came out better on that deal?  😄 

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They seem to be using the word "star" incredibly loosely there.  I had to google her only to find out that her character was a mostly silent Alexandria background extra in a handful of episodes in seasons 6 and 7 who was killed during the Saviors' bombing of the place while Carl was dying in season 8.  Would any of us even have remembered a character named Anna without the wiki?  I know I didn't.  I still have no memory of her.

In unrelated news, Glenn has been one of the answers on a pop culture polling page's Twitter today about worst character deaths, I guess of the decade.  A lot of the responses have made no bones about his death being what killed the show for them or where respondents just decided they were done.

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Of those four, Glenn is maybe coming up short only to Poussey, where there is almost universal agreement that her death irretrievably killed Orange is the New Black in a way that it never recovered from.  The comparisons being made of the two are strong.  Lyanna Mormont at least got one of the only deaths in the final season of GOT that didn't feel like a cheap copout, but then I still can't think about that final season without wanting to rub the noses of everyone involved in the carpet like I remember my mom doing with her dog after he pissed there.

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Well, I was going strictly on characters I liked the most. As far as how it affected the series, I agree that the show declined severely after Glen died. I would argue it declined with the first Glen death-fake out. 

I never watched past the first season of OITNB. As far as GoT, the less said about that final season the better. 

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Yeah, a lot of the comments mentioned the dumpster fakeout as the beginning of the end.  It was just so cheap and gimmicky in a way that was the dress rehearsal for the big season ending "Here's Negan" cliffhanger absolutely no one asked for.  I'll never be convinced that it wouldn't have been better across the board for Glenn's death fakeout to have been the real deal. 

Sure being torn apart by walkers would have been an awful way to go, but he would have gone out trying to save someone, no matter how stupid the guy was being or how much he didn't deserve it.  That would have been true to Glenn's character and would have come before we had to watch him go from being the one person who'd never killed to letting himself be talked into killing people he didn't know in their sleep on the say-so of a guy they'd just met 5 minutes after Ricky G hung out the will murder for canned goods sign.

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7 hours ago, Superclam said:

Normally, I hate when people comment "Who?" on an article, I think it's lazy. But in this case, I can honestly say:  "Who?" 

Surely you remember ‘Anna’, third on the left behind that big tree!

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I have never liked Glenn, or Maggie for that matter.   Maggie will probably never die.  Carol is another one that will probably never die.

If Maggie doesn't get pregnant "dolphin smooth" most likely lives.  I wouldn't have minded seeing a confrontation between him and Beta.  Abraham would also have been a better leader than the current rudderless ship of protagonists.

Maggie running off proved the point that she can't be a leader.  No matter what happens from this point forward, the fact remains the character ran off when the protagonists needed her the most.  If she ever comes back, the writers have to have enough brains to make it known that she can't be so easily accepted back, and certainly not in a leadership role.

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3 hours ago, OoohMaggie said:

Surely you remember ‘Anna’, third on the left behind that big tree!

 

Lol. If this was facebook, I'd be called a "poseur" and "not a real fan." 

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14 hours ago, Superclam said:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/walking-dead-star-vanessa-cloke-233920175.html

Normally, I hate when people comment "Who?" on an article, I think it's lazy. But in this case, I can honestly say:  "Who?" 

Even after seeing her picture I have no memory of ever seeing this "star" or hearing her name. There's a video of the incident with her crying and yelling about her boyfriend choosing his siblings over her or some such. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7824397/Walking-Dead-star-played-Anna-hit-series-arrested-lashing-woman.html

 

 

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"Star." 

Honestly, though, it's kind of dicky to film someone like this. I know everyone has a video camera now, but the Golden Rule could be used in a lot of cases. 

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7 hours ago, icemiser69 said:

the fact remains the character ran off when the protagonists needed her the most.

That’s not exactly true, she left after the Saviour war had ended, she left before the Whisperers had been encountered, she left when Hilltop was a thriving community with a very capable No2, soon to become No 1 in charge, Jesus, with Tara bringing up a credible No 3 position.

Do I expect her return to be unproblematic? No way, she’s going to get abuse from all angles, obviously, but I’m hoping the writers will include benefits from her being away, which will impact positively upon the three remaining communities. I would think the trip was supposed to be mutually beneficial.

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3 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

Even after seeing her picture I have no memory of ever seeing this "star" or hearing her name.

According to Wiki, she looked after Judith at one point, that’s the brat’s shoulder in picture above, but as nobody’s particularly interested i won’t bother posting a link 😂

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18 minutes ago, OoohMaggie said:

Do I expect her return to be unproblematic? No way, she’s going to get abuse from all angles, obviously, but I’m hoping the writers will include benefits from her being away, which will impact positively upon the three remaining communities. I would think the trip was supposed to be mutually beneficial.

The sad part is that I think that if she comes back nothing will change. Most of the settlement folks never really challenge "leadership".  Sure they complain a little, but they also back down pretty quickly.  

When they were trudging through the snow last season, Alden started to verbally go after Lydia and it took Daryl two seconds to put an end to it.   That was after Enid and nine others were piked.  Later on when the protagonists were freezing their asses off and eventually ended up at the Sanctuary where they left their horses to freeze to death.  Those assholes.

What really needs to happen is for all of the settlements to rise up and go after their own "leadership" for failing them.

Even in the last episode before the break of this season, Daryl had all of those red shirts chasing after Carol.   Not one of them had the smarts to tell Daryl to stuff it, and if he wanted her to be saved, he should go save her himself.

No, if Maggie comes back I won't be shocked if they throw a party for her.

 

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4 hours ago, Superclam said:

"Star." 

Honestly, though, it's kind of dicky to film someone like this. I know everyone has a video camera now, but the Golden Rule could be used in a lot of cases. 

Definitely dicky and not something I would do, but if you want to throw a kicking, screaming wailing tantrum in a common area of a building and then claim, while being handcuffed for an out-of-control assault, that your privacy is being invaded that's pretty dicky too. I'm just amazed that anyone recognized her. And talk about being a dick:

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1 hour ago, OoohMaggie said:

That’s not exactly true, she left after the Saviour war had ended,

Maybe she left because knowing that Ricky and his girlfriend were guarding Negan against any harm and using up valuable resources to feed and care for him after he beat Glenn's head in was too galling for her.

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1 hour ago, AngelaHunter said:

Definitely dicky and not something I would do, but if you want to throw a kicking, screaming wailing tantrum in a common area of a building and then claim, while being handcuffed for an out-of-control assault, that your privacy is being invaded that's pretty dicky too. I'm just amazed that anyone recognized her.

I guess I miss the days where you could act like an asshole in public and only the people there see it. Takes all the fun out of public drunkenness. 😞 

1 hour ago, AngelaHunter said:

And talk about being a dick:

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“This is so fun. I’ve always wanted to get arrested,” she says to the arresting officers.

Yep! That is really dicky! 

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18 hours ago, Superclam said:

Honestly, though, it's kind of dicky to film someone like this. I know everyone has a video camera now, but the Golden Rule could be used in a lot of cases. 

When you’ve got TV shows paying $100’s for video of you dropping your child on its head, footage of ‘STARS’ misbehaving or preferably getting shot must be paying a premium 🤑

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15 hours ago, icemiser69 said:

Most of the settlement folks never really challenge "leadership".  Sure they complain a little, but they also back down pretty quickly.

Absolutely, the fact that nobody stood against Jesus in the leadership vote says it all. They should have had what they do now at Alex, a council, especially after seeing what one man, Rick, can do if left in charge too long.

Maggie wont have time to party, there’s too many graves to be laying flowers on 

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I really wish they would show Nagen's backstory before the ZA.  I figure he was either a motivational speaker at a porn convention or a high school gym teacher.

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1 hour ago, icemiser69 said:

I figure he was either a motivational speaker at a porn convention or a high school gym teacher.

There’s definitely a joke in there somewhere  😋

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4 hours ago, icemiser69 said:

I really wish they would show Nagen's backstory before the ZA.  I figure he was either a motivational speaker at a porn convention or a high school gym teacher.

I always figured Negan for either a high school coach or a used car salesman.

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3 hours ago, Nashville said:

I always figured Negan for either a high school coach or a used car salesman.

Considering his constant talk of dicks, balls and nut taps, I say high school coach. Although he's smarmy enough to be a used car salesman, his language and approach leaves something to be desired: "Gooood mornin' you little prick! Got your pissin' pants on? Cuz you're gonna piss your pants when you see this sweet '02 Chevy Aveo here with your name on it! Happy hour at the p****y bar when you tool around in this baby, trust me!"

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Y’all ever hear a used car salesman on a clunker lot try to sell a piece of shit to a guy in his teens/20s?  I have, more than once - and I’ll guarantee you if the salesman thinks there’s not a female in earshot, the phrase “pussy wagon” is not an unknown inclusion in the sales pitch.  Their guiding rule is, “Whatever works.”

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4 hours ago, OoohMaggie said:

it’s official-ish

All out war was the worst

The Walking Dead: All But One of the Show’s 10 Worst Episodes Are From Seasons 7 and 8

 

https://comicbook.com/thewalkingdead/2019/12/28/the-walking-dead-ten-worst-episodes-ranked-seasons-7-and-8/

I never had a problem with Tara, but she wasn't well liked by much of the audience.  Heath disappeared without viewers throwing a hissy fit.  So yeah, not surprised that it was rated the worst.  I liked the episode.

Other episodes that were rated badly were mostly due to either characters getting killed, or injuries leading to their deaths.

I ain't lion, when Shiva was killed, that was probably one of the worst, if not the worst, episodes for me.

6 hours ago, Nashville said:

Y’all ever hear a used car salesman on a clunker lot try to sell a piece of shit to a guy in his teens/20s?  I have, more than once - and I’ll guarantee you if the salesman thinks there’s not a female in earshot, the phrase “pussy wagon” is not an unknown inclusion in the sales pitch.  Their guiding rule is, “Whatever works.”

Are you sure they aren't trying to sell vehicles for people who transport homeless felines?

I feel so bad for Yoda Cat.  That neck wound looks nasty.  I hope he/she gets healthy and finds a good home where he/she is kept indoors.   I hope it wasn't some asshole that hurt that cat.

There are a lot of homeless pets that need good homes, hopefully they will find a home where they can stay inside away from predators and assholes.

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, OoohMaggie said:

it’s official-ish

All out war was the worst

The Walking Dead: All But One of the Show’s 10 Worst Episodes Are From Seasons 7 and 8

 

https://comicbook.com/thewalkingdead/2019/12/28/the-walking-dead-ten-worst-episodes-ranked-seasons-7-and-8/

I started to look at the list, but it created such unpleasant flashbacks I nearly had  to dunk my head in icewater.

However, that article lead to an even worse one about Negan:
 

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Recently, Morgan's character has emerged as the best part of The Walking Dead. Throughout the current season, the character has provided some of the most interesting story beats and outright entertaining moments. Of course, he was also reunited with his precious Lucille bat and his leather jacket which always makes the character that much more fun.

"Kang's take on Negan is one which makes him slightly more relatable for fans," ComicBook.com's article about Negan reads. Yes, this is still the guy who killed beloved characters which makes it difficult to fully embrace him, but that conflict makes the whole thing that much more intriguing. Now, Negan is fully defending kids from harm and stopping murderers in their tracks."

 

That JDM named his car "Lucille" and had the bat engraved on the trunk is just creepy.

 

https://comicbook.com/thewalkingdead/2019/12/24/the-walking-dead-jeffrey-dean-morgan-negan-bat-car/

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On 12/28/2019 at 11:37 AM, AngelaHunter said:

"Kang's take on Negan is one which makes him slightly more relatable for fans," ComicBook.com's article about Negan reads. Yes, this is still the guy who killed beloved characters which makes it difficult to fully embrace him, but that conflict makes the whole thing that much more intriguing. Now, Negan is fully defending kids from harm and stopping murderers in their tracks."

A psychopath with a heart of gold, sounds about right. 🙄

On 12/28/2019 at 11:37 AM, AngelaHunter said:

That JDM named his car "Lucille" and had the bat engraved on the trunk is just creepy.

 

https://comicbook.com/thewalkingdead/2019/12/24/the-walking-dead-jeffrey-dean-morgan-negan-bat-car/

That doesn't really bother me.  On the other hand, the rest of that article in regards to the Negan character is flat out disturbing.

It seems like the writers are only able to build up one character at a time, and they chose Nagen.   That is a pretty sad state of affairs in the writers' room.  They should have several strong story lines going at the same time and they don't.  Most of the characters are weak and winy.

Once that Negan/Whisperer story line is resolved, they are back at square one starting to build up another story line.  If they have several strong story lines going on at once, they can finish one off and continue with the other strong ones and start fresh with another one to fill the void of the one that was resolved.  That way, there isn't a lull in story development.

The Dante story line was poorly handled and ended far too quickly.  The viewers should have been in on all that Dante was doing from the start.

Michonne sailing off without any back up was incredibly stupid.  She has no idea what lies ahead.

Daryl sending the red shirts to run after Carol was yet another idiotic story line.

Even Negan mouthing off to the Whisperers is incredibly stupid, but I tolerate it, because it is far better than everything else that is going on, and it isn't close.  Still, that isn't saying much.

Maggie off learning the Dewey Decimal system is beyond a joke.

 

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The Walking Dead: AMC Chief Admits Seasons With Negan as the Villain Were “Too Hopeless”
 

No shit,

"It’s true to say that that season with Negan became a little too hopeless for audiences. I think that there was creative intention behind it that was really smart and thoughtful, but it I think it probably pushed people to a place where it was a lot to take at a time when maybe people just didn’t want to see that."

 

https://comicbook.com/thewalkingdead/2020/01/17/the-walking-dead-amc-chief-seasons-negan-as-villain-too-hopeless-savior-war/

 

 

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The real takeaway is the series has been on the air too long, with repetitive plot arcs and really no end game.

Sure they want to keep it on the air as long as possible, since it's their most popular show.

But when there is no end in sight for the story, people wonder what is the point.  Survival alone, even if it means defeating villains, becomes a tedious existence.

Now several characters are having babies in the post-apocalypse.  What kind of a life will they give to the children?  Nomadic existence broken up by protracted battles.

But what are they fighting for?  To win and survive in a shitty world?

At least with other shows, they were chasing something, some objective, even if illusory which was suppose to break the cycle.  But TWD doesn't even have that dangling in front of them.  Instead of dogs in a race chasing a fake rabbit, they're just wild dogs roaming around in packs digging for scraps, killing other packs to win those scraps.

Of course AMC won't make this conclusion because they have no choice but to keep milking it.

 

 

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21 minutes ago, scrb said:

Of course AMC won't make this conclusion because they have no choice but to keep milking it.

 

Ain’t that the truth 😂

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4 hours ago, OoohMaggie said:

"It’s true to say that that season with Negan became a little too hopeless for audiences. I think that there was creative intention behind it that was really smart and thoughtful, but it I think it probably pushed people to a place where it was a lot to take at a time when maybe people just didn’t want to see that."

"Hopeless"? "A lot to take in"?  Is that code for "Stupid, tedious, nonsensical and boring"? Because yes, "people don't want to see that."

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Negan has found redemption of sorts under Kang: a poll conducted in November showed a majority of fans who voted are now in favor of Negan and are actively rooting for the anti-hero

Good job, Kang. You certainly haven't underestimated those fans. What's a little on-going sadism, rape, and sexual slavery anyway?  All water under the bridge. Negan! Negan! Rah rah!

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Here's the original L.A. Times article containing the Sarah Barnett quote that's being posted all over the place (it's a long interview)...

Cable TV can survive the streaming wars. AMC chief Sarah Barnett explains how
By MATT BRENNAN   JAN. 16, 2020 
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2020-01-16/sarah-barnett-amc-networks-the-walking-dead-killing-eve 

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Pure scale may not be Barnett’s mission, but that doesn’t mean she’s hesitant about doubling down on what works. After launching the acclaimed “Killing Eve” in her previous role as the chief of BBC America, in 2019 Barnett oversaw the simulcast of its second season on AMC, which led to an 87% rise in viewership. She’s also a booster for the expansion of “The Walking Dead” universe, which will soon include a second spinoff, “World Beyond,” and at least one feature film distributed by Universal. She and the franchise’s lead creative, Scott Gimple, aren’t necessarily going to stop there, either.

“We’re plotting a lot more ambition for this,” she says. “I think there are endless stories to be told in this universe.”
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While Barnett argues that the blockbuster zombie property has unfairly become a standard-bearer for “the rise of hollow-genre programming,” she admits that the AMC brand — once defined by Golden Age dramas like “Mad Men” and “Breaking Bad” — is “in an evolutionary phase,” and the network’s forthcoming projects suggest a departure from its recent horror-heavy slate. Among new series in the works are “Quiz,” about a British couple accused of cheating on “Who Wants to Be a Millionaire”; “For Life,” an anthology Barnett pitches as “‘Black Mirror’ for love”; courtroom drama “61st Street”; and a wildly ambitious spin on the sitcom wife, “Kevin Can Go ... Himself.”
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[L.A. Times:] I’d argue that there was a period in Seasons 6, 7, 8 where part of what was shaping that narrative was a sense among critics of a decline in the creative. How do you avoid ‘Walking Dead’ fatigue or zombie fatigue or, even more broadly, horror fatigue — turning off fans of the ‘Mad Men’ and ‘Breaking Bad’ brand.
[Barnett:] When we look at our study with our audiences, it doesn’t turn them off. They love “The Walking Dead” and they love “Better Call Saul” just as much. I don’t think fans of AMC discriminate between genre and non-genre in the ways that maybe critics do. ... I would challenge anyone to watch the last couple seasons of “The Walking Dead” and not say that that is remarkable storytelling that has a lot of complexity and depth and emotion to it that is real and earned, along with the horror aspects.

In terms of the quality question, I think that with 10 seasons of television — something like “ER” or “Grey’s Anatomy” — shows go through spurts. We’ve done a lot of research on the response to it and we certainly have our own thoughts about it. It’s true to say that that season with Negan [a mega-villain played by Jeffrey Dean Morgan] became a little too hopeless for audiences. I think that there was creative intention behind it that was really smart and thoughtful, but it I think it probably pushed people to a place where it was a lot to take at a time when maybe people just didn’t want to see that.

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17 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

"Hopeless"? "A lot to take in"?  Is that code for "Stupid, tedious, nonsensical and boring"? Because yes, "people don't want to see that."

Yes, thank you.  Besides being hopeless it was also stupid and nonsensical.  Lose - lose. 

I'm glad they conducted research to discover people don't enjoy repeatedly watching heroes die humiliating deaths.  I'm sure they'll get it right now. 🙄 

Maybe they should take a peek at Tarantino's success, which is retconning history so that the BAD GUYS get the humiliating deaths.  

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5 hours ago, peach said:

I'm glad they conducted research to discover people don't enjoy repeatedly watching heroes die humiliating deaths. 

One exception: When they finish transforming Negan into their version of a hero then, yes - I'd be all in for a humiliating death.

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On 1/20/2020 at 2:22 PM, scrb said:

The real takeaway is the series has been on the air too long, with repetitive plot arcs and really no end game.

I don't think it has gone on for too long.  I think they need better writers.   The reason why the series has turned sour for many is because there is little to no character development.  Give people a reason to care about the characters.  The writers haven't done that.   That alone will boost the ratings.

The Young and the Restless, is a soap opera that has been going on since 1973.  You don't think that has gotten repetitive?  It has been able to stay on the air for several decades because they know how to properly develop characters.  They kill characters off and bring new characters on and they still manage to have an audience.   

TWD kills characters off and has no clue how to elevate new and existing characters that are still on the series.

Then to top it all off, the writers create drama by having the characters do incredibly stupid things.   How about creating drama with having the characters do incredibly smart things, but unforeseen things happen?  That would work.

How much better would this season have been if we had all known want Dante was up to from the start?  Much better. 

 

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On 1/20/2020 at 2:02 PM, OoohMaggie said:

The Walking Dead: AMC Chief Admits Seasons With Negan as the Villain Were “Too Hopeless”

That wasn't the problem.   The problem was giving Nagen so much dialogue that prevented other characters from being developed.  Spend less time on Nagen's childish dialogue, and instead give lines to some of the underutilized characters.  Develop the other characters.  Give us a reason to care about the other characters.

Building up characters just before they are about to croak doesn't count.🐸

If they had built up other characters, they wouldn't have had to try and turn Nagen into a hero.  They could have just left him in prison or have him escape to parts unknown..

BTW, I have no problem with the violent deaths by Nagen.  Most of the protagonists have done horrible shit.   They just never get called out for it like Nagen has.

Just pick a standard and hold them all to the same standard.

 

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I don’t watch The Young and the Restless either.

What kind of character development can you have in a world where existence is going around fighting one group after another?

They try to give the characters some unique personality traits but those are just mannerisms or just have unique weapons.  It’s always been cartoony.

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28 minutes ago, scrb said:

What kind of character development can you have in a world where existence is going around fighting one group after another?

They chose to have one group fighting another.  There was nothing that said that they couldn't run into a group that was getting along just fine and then moving along leaving that group intact, having that happen multiple times.  They chose not to go that route.

They could have gone the route of having love triangles and all sorts of other issues within the group itself with real consequences.  For the most part they haven't done that.   Not really.

Gabriel/Rosita/Saddiq triangle was handled poorly.  Very poorly, a lot could have been done with that.   They could have thrown Eugene into the mix to make it even more complicated, instead of having Rosita playing the "just friends" card with Eugene.

Should Lydia be allowed to stay at Alexandria or get the boot?   Was another story line that was squashed too quickly.

Once Daryl, Michonne, and Carol, spout off, what they say goes.   That's a problem.   There needs to be more push back from the other characters.

 

28 minutes ago, scrb said:

They try to give the characters some unique personality traits but those are just mannerisms or just have unique weapons.  It’s always been cartoony.

 That isn't character development.  We don't know the backstory of most of these characters.  We don't see meaningful interaction with most of these characters unless it is about the next battle.

These characters could have all sorts of issues that have nothing to do with fighting.  The writers don't go there often enough.  IMO, it is a writing issue, not a series being on too long issue.

 

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Of course, this is an action-oriented show.

They spend a lot of time and money on battles or making sets where they kill walkers in unique ways.

If they did too much relationship stuff, they'd be accused of being too much of a soap opera.

I don't have a problem with the action per se but what is it building to?  Really  nothing, because they plan to keep producing the show for another decade or more, so they have to come up with new villains and battles.

No end in sight to these survival battles, because Kirkman has been dead set against an end, like a cure that starts to restore the world.

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This series was always a soap opera until it lost its way and for the most part stopped developing characters.

From the beginning.

Shane had a relationship with Lori while Rick is in a coma.

Rick wakes up from his coma. 

Rick searches for his family.

Then we get to the who is Judith's real father saga.

Later in the series.

Nagen beats Glen and Abraham to death with a bat.

Many viewers were waiting for Maggie to kill Nagen.

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, icemiser69 said:

The reason why the series has turned sour for many is because there is little to no character development.  Give people a reason to care about the characters.  The writers haven't done that.  

Absolutely. In the first few seasons we got to really know and care about the characters. When they died it meant something to audiences, I think. Now? Kill Saddiq or Neil or "that lady" or the "guy with the moustache" or some Whisperer and who cares? Not I.  I think the last time I felt anything other than, "Oh. Whatever" when someone got bumped off was Abe. There was some character development with him and they did a pretty good job, so maybe people cared for his demise. I didn't even care about Glenn since they did such a thorough job of turning him into a dreary pendantic bore before killing him. It was hard to care about Carl dying, since TPTB gave him such a senseless, maddening and idiotic exit. Same with Rick. By the time they dragged out his nonsensical (fake)death, cutting away constantly for irrelvent stuff, I just thought, "Oh, die already!"

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They never did elevate any of the newest characters.

Carol has been mopey ever since she got off the boat.  And Daryl seems to be more intimate with his dog than any one else.  Nothing much has been done with Michonne.  Gabriel hasn't had much air time.  Other than Eugene being told to hit the road by Rosita and his long distant radio relationship, nothing much has been going on with him.

I care about dog and Ezekiel the most.   Ezekiel is alone and very sick.  I like animals, therefore I like dog.

As long as the rest of the newest characters are treated as nothing more than disposable red shirts, the series won't improve.

And I still say if people don't like the show, instead of rooting for it to be cancelled, go watch something else.   Instead, root for the show to stay on the air for others that still enjoy watching it.

Rooting for a show to be cancelled is like the kid who doesn't like the way a game is being played, so he takes his ball and goes home so no one can play.

I stopped watching NCIS ten years ago and it is still on the air airing new episodes.  I don't care if it is still airing new episodes.   If others still like the series good for them.  I am glad they enjoy it.  I wouldn't want it cancelled just because I no longer like it.

 

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