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1 hour ago, Etherbunny said:

I don’t think I have ever seen anything more cheaply made than today's special value; it’s awful

Are you talking about the Gaucho jumpsuit by AnyBody?

I went to look at the TSV on the website, hit the TSV tab and there were tons of different TSVs, the Dyson leftover from yesterday, QVC2 Big Deals...I have no idea which one you're referencing (not your fault!).

But here's an idea......if it IS the Gaucho jumpsuit, let's see if tonight, when Fashion Night In is on, if Amy Stran manages to pronounce it correctly.

She once famously called them "Groucho pants"  - repeatedly called them this - and we all howled about it for weeks here!

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8 hours ago, lovemesomejoolery said:

Are you talking about the Gaucho jumpsuit by AnyBody?

I went to look at the TSV on the website, hit the TSV tab and there were tons of different TSVs, the Dyson leftover from yesterday, QVC2 Big Deals...I have no idea which one you're referencing (not your fault!).

But here's an idea......if it IS the Gaucho jumpsuit, let's see if tonight, when Fashion Night In is on, if Amy Stran manages to pronounce it correctly.

She once famously called them "Groucho pants"  - repeatedly called them this - and we all howled about it for weeks here!

 

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11 hours ago, RubberbandGirl said:

 

Verbal confusion aside, Amy looks good here.  This is a look (hair) that she should circle back to.  

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13 hours ago, RubberbandGirl said:

 

Groucho pants…….and she’s in TV

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"A divided Board panel affirmed two refusals to register the standard character mark DENIM & CO. for various clothing items made of materials other than denim, on the grounds of deceptiveness under Section 2(a) and, alternatively, deceptive misdescriptiveness under Section 2(e)(1).  In re QVC, Inc., Serial No. 86670074 (January 21, 2020) [not precedential] (Majority opinion by Judge Cynthia C. Lynch; dissent by Judge Marc A. Bergsman)."

https://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/trademark/886886/denim-co-is-deceptive-for-non-denim-clothing-says-ttab-panel-majority-

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1 hour ago, RubberbandGirl said:

"A divided Board panel affirmed two refusals to register the standard character mark DENIM & CO. for various clothing items made of materials other than denim, on the grounds of deceptiveness under Section 2(a) and, alternatively, deceptive misdescriptiveness under Section 2(e)(1).  In re QVC, Inc., Serial No. 86670074 (January 21, 2020) [not precedential] (Majority opinion by Judge Cynthia C. Lynch; dissent by Judge Marc A. Bergsman)."

https://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/trademark/886886/denim-co-is-deceptive-for-non-denim-clothing-says-ttab-panel-majority-

IIRC, back in the day, Frau Bauer was the face of D&Co, an all denim brand 

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5 hours ago, hummingbird said:

I just saw a Ralph Lauren dress very similar to some of David's denim tops 

Well, YMMV, but I think the quality and originality has gone waaay down.

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3 hours ago, RubberbandGirl said:

"A divided Board panel affirmed two refusals to register the standard character mark DENIM & CO. for various clothing items made of materials other than denim, on the grounds of deceptiveness under Section 2(a) and, alternatively, deceptive misdescriptiveness under Section 2(e)(1).  In re QVC, Inc., Serial No. 86670074 (January 21, 2020) [not precedential] (Majority opinion by Judge Cynthia C. Lynch; dissent by Judge Marc A. Bergsman)."

https://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/trademark/886886/denim-co-is-deceptive-for-non-denim-clothing-says-ttab-panel-majority-

Interesting. So will this have any practical effect on QVC selling t-shirts and all the other non-denim items under the brand name Denim & Co. ? I honestly can't remember the last time I saw anything actually made of denim being sold under that brand name. 

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3 hours ago, RubberbandGirl said:

"A divided Board panel affirmed two refusals to register the standard character mark DENIM & CO. for various clothing items made of materials other than denim, on the grounds of deceptiveness under Section 2(a) and, alternatively, deceptive misdescriptiveness under Section 2(e)(1).  In re QVC, Inc., Serial No. 86670074 (January 21, 2020) [not precedential] (Majority opinion by Judge Cynthia C. Lynch; dissent by Judge Marc A. Bergsman)."

https://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/trademark/886886/denim-co-is-deceptive-for-non-denim-clothing-says-ttab-panel-majority-

I’m going with the dissent on this one. 

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4 hours ago, RubberbandGirl said:

"A divided Board panel affirmed two refusals to register the standard character mark DENIM & CO. for various clothing items made of materials other than denim, on the grounds of deceptiveness under Section 2(a) and, alternatively, deceptive misdescriptiveness under Section 2(e)(1).  In re QVC, Inc., Serial No. 86670074 (January 21, 2020) [not precedential] (Majority opinion by Judge Cynthia C. Lynch; dissent by Judge Marc A. Bergsman)."

https://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/trademark/886886/denim-co-is-deceptive-for-non-denim-clothing-says-ttab-panel-majority-

Were the plaintiffs represented by Lionel Hutz, Esq.? 🤣🤣

 

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7 hours ago, RubberbandGirl said:

"A divided Board panel affirmed two refusals to register the standard character mark DENIM & CO. for various clothing items made of materials other than denim, on the grounds of deceptiveness under Section 2(a) and, alternatively, deceptive misdescriptiveness under Section 2(e)(1).  In re QVC, Inc., Serial No. 86670074 (January 21, 2020) [not precedential] (Majority opinion by Judge Cynthia C. Lynch; dissent by Judge Marc A. Bergsman)."

https://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/trademark/886886/denim-co-is-deceptive-for-non-denim-clothing-says-ttab-panel-majority-

This is from January 2020......so it doesn't really look like much has changed.

I, too, agree with the dissenting opinion.  To me, this seems like a frivolous, waste of time complaint.

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5 hours ago, Benji said:

Interesting. So will this have any practical effect on QVC selling t-shirts and all the other non-denim items under the brand name Denim & Co. ? I honestly can't remember the last time I saw anything actually made of denim being sold under that brand name. 

Last year I bought a nice heavyweight D&C cotton denim shirt from the website. But it was an older item on clearance.

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On 6/15/2021 at 10:43 AM, Etherbunny said:

Groucho pants…….and she’s in TV

Maybe they come with bushy eyebrows and a duck.

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22 hours ago, lovemesomejoolery said:

This is from January 2020......so it doesn't really look like much has changed.

I, too, agree with the dissenting opinion.  To me, this seems like a frivolous, waste of time complaint.

This process started in 2015. 

After the split decision by the Patent and Trademark Office last January, in March QVC appealed it to the US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, which happens to be just a few blocks away from USPTO.  But before the civil suit went to trial they and USPTO came to an agreement on acceptable wording and the court agreed to step aside in August.

Here is a link to the case file, 86670074

If you look under the Documents tab and then Proceedings Documents you can see what they originally wanted (look at Appeal to Board) and what they agreed to (under Dismissed).  You can also read the appeal to the District Court, which I have also linked below (note:  It's a PDF).

https://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=86670074

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23 hours ago, BenchWarmer said:

Maybe they come with bushy eyebrows and a duck.

Give that lady a cigar!

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Isaac tsv dress is cute but doesn't ship until July 17?!? 

This is the second tsv item I've noticed lately that doesn't ship for several weeks or more.

Just seems weird to me.🤔

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38 minutes ago, hummingbird said:

IM. compares his TS dress to something at Bergdorf?  oy very

I guess you can do that knowing 98% of the viewers have and never will shop there 

 

 

Susan Graver has the same audacity.

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So after bragging about my QVC fan purchase a couple of weeks ago (no good deed goes unpunished, right?), my order of two pairs of the linen/rayon blend TSV pants (6/11 order date) has been split.  One pair has been shipped and is expected today or so, while the pair I really wanted is mysteriously still "in process", and now shows an expected delivery of 6/22 or something.  If that doesn't scream "we didn't have the stock we told you we did, so we're waiting for a return to be able to ship them to you", I don't know what does.  

Assholes.

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1 hour ago, hummingbird said:

IM. compares his TS dress to something at Bergdorf?  oy very

I guess you can do that knowing 98% of the viewers have and never will shop there 

 

 

Not sure about that brag…

however…

if you add 18” to the hem and rip the sleeves off of the orangy flowered TSV, you have a duplicate of a Ralph Lauren dress which landed in my in box this morning.

 

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3 hours ago, seasons said:

Isaac tsv dress is cute but doesn't ship until July 17?!? 

This is the second tsv item I've noticed lately that doesn't ship for several weeks or more.

Just seems weird to me.🤔

And it isn't the first TSV with a ship date of a month away; there's been at least one other I can think of in the past while.

CIJ starts next Saturday, the 26th.  Can't wait to see the estimated ship dates on some of the new stuff, especially VPH's.  Although I expect it'll be quite a bit like last year, trying to get rid of items sitting in the warehouse.

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I've never been a fan of the Christmas In July sales model, but I've always understood it, from a retailer's standpoint.  

This year, with as quickly as the year seems to be passing, the idea makes me stabby.  I won't be watching, clicking, or any of it.

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1 hour ago, hummingbird said:

runs screaming from the TV 

ugh

me too

and the cloying sentimentality will be on show, 

 

…and guilt and stress that the holidays are rolling around again and I haven’t bought a christmas tree yet…

It’s like that panic dream where you’re in high school math class and you’re wearing a bright green polished cotton shirtwaist dress and wriggling in your seat. The male teacher thinks you’re not paying attention so he calls you up to the board to solve the equation…but you’ve started heavily bleeding through the dress and the whole, mostly małe, class sees something they can’t unsee and has an early lesson in dealing with women.

Unfortunately, this really happened to me.

The red and green of artificially early CIJ brings back lovely memories.

 

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4 hours ago, hummingbird said:

IM. compares his TS dress to something at Bergdorf?  oy very

I guess you can do that knowing 98% of the viewers have and never will shop there 

 

 

Wrong. That dress reminds me of something you'd see at the old Kmart. Cheap and hardly worth the $37(?) price. I'm waiting for IM to say he put on the (whichever) dress after he took a shower like he did when he had his last tsv. (Said he put on the pink one.) Seems like that was just last week.

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The TSV isn’t too horrible. I actually thought Kirsten and Jen actually look good it in it. Of course, it helps to be skinny. Jen is wearing the black polka dot with the coral shrug and looks really nice. I might buy that together. I have a wedding and I don’t want to spend a bundle. 

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It seems clothing is no longer cheap anywhere. The TSV seems reasonably priced to me. The mid-July ship date is a bit much. But “wear it now, wear it later.”🙄

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I ordered my favorite, a dozen Jimmy the Baker crumb cake squares during Gourmet Holiday on the 14th.

Received them the afternoon of the 16th, fresh as can be.  It can be done (with food items it seems.)

 

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What's with bare feet lately? 

The other night on q2 Szish was barefoot for the times I checked in, and now I see model/nurse Amy in the pre recorded shot in bare feet also.

🤔

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46 minutes ago, seasons said:

What's with bare feet lately? 

The other night on q2 Szish was barefoot for the times I checked in, and now I see model/nurse Amy in the pre recorded shot in bare feet also.

🤔

Catering to a new demographic--foot fetishists   👣  🤷‍♀️ 😂

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1 hour ago, seasons said:

What's with bare feet lately? 

The other night on q2 Szish was barefoot for the times I checked in, and now I see model/nurse Amy in the pre recorded shot in bare feet also.

🤔

Katrina was wearing different shoes during that show as she demonstrated different looks. Probably caught her during a change. It's actually an interesting show concept.

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It seems like Isaac isn’t selling out on his TSV. I guess the ladies already bought their summer ware.

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8 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

It seems like Isaac isn’t selling out on his TSV. I guess the ladies already bought their summer ware.

The anticipated ship date of July 17 certainly isn't helping.

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Wal-Mart dress. I made a comment earlier that the tsv reminded me of things I'd seen at Kmart. This was after Isaac said his dress compared to Bergdorf. Such a liar.

 

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2 hours ago, letusprocrastinate said:

The anticipated ship date of July 17 certainly isn't helping.

That is weird. Did they say that was?

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2 hours ago, Shaking My Head said:

Wal-Mart dress

 

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I doubt that is the same quality fabric as the TSV. Isaac has some pretty nice fabric. 

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44 minutes ago, LeeDenny said:

I doubt that is the same quality fabric as the TSV. Isaac has some pretty nice fabric. 

Perhaps. It looked kind of stiff to me. My point was that he said it compared to Bergdorf, and I said it reminded me of Kmart. I meant the prints.

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20 hours ago, hummingbird said:

IM. compares his TS dress to something at Bergdorf?  oy very

I guess you can do that knowing 98% of the viewers have and never will shop there 

 

 

I thought it looked like a dress someone made in home-etc in the early 60’s. SO simplistic. That’s what Mizrahi designs?  Yikes. 

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It's interesting that Walmart calls the garment a "tunic" and Isaac calls it a "dress," when the length looks exactly the same on both. I don't think it's a good "dress" for older women, unless you're one of the lucky people who still has pretty knees. But it would be fine for use as something like a casual swimsuit coverup.

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12 hours ago, letusprocrastinate said:

The anticipated ship date of July 17 certainly isn't helping.

I won’t even consider purchasing an “adavnced order” item any longer. I placed two orders on free shipping day last Sunday…both are still sitting in “preparing your order” status. Between order issues, boring programming, obnoxious hosts and little appreication shown to longtime customers…QVC is sure making it tough to do business with them these days.

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8 hours ago, hummingbird said:

Summer clothing it’s short time to wear so yeah it’s basically a month, you can go Any  store and buy a dress and take it home with you 

Eta

not sure what they can do considering the dress was probably planned and manufactured in the past year

who would’ve known that would be such a log jam of shipping containers

Unfortunately, they can't blame all of their shipping woes on late-arriving shipping containers.  There is something fundamentally wrong with their inventory and shipping practices when even as-is items or items that have been available for many months or even years are being put on backorder or stay "in process" for days. 

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Side Stitch Popover Tunic with Roll-Tab Sleeves. $97.32 + $3.50 s&h. Are they f’ing nuts? 

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1 hour ago, ByaNose said:

Side Stitch Popover Tunic with Roll-Tab Sleeves. $97.32 + $3.50 s&h. Are they f’ing nuts? 

I've been on Side Stich's pricing for a while. There's a shirt on LTS that's on SALE for almost $80. 

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11 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

I've been on Side Stich's pricing for a while. There's a shirt on LTS that's on SALE for almost $80. 

With rare exceptions, Q wouldn't know sale or clearance pricing if it bit them in the backside.

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I've actually found a few really good LTSs. Tops for under $20. And no! Not that Lisa Rinna foil mess that was a LTS forever.

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8 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

I've actually found a few really good LTSs. Tops for under $20. And no! Not that Lisa Rinna foil mess that was a LTS forever.

Sorry, I meant the stuff on air.  Sale!  $5 off.  Clearance!  Originally $55 and now $40. 

Is that foil mess still around?  I'm afraid to look.

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Just now, letusprocrastinate said:

Sorry, I meant the stuff on air.  Sale!  $5 off.  Clearance!  Originally $55 and now $40. 

Is that foil mess still around?  I'm afraid to look.

I haven't seen the foil mess for a while. They probably gave up and put them on a pallet. 😂

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1 minute ago, emmawoodhouse said:

I haven't seen the foil mess for a while. They probably gave up and put them on a pallet. 😂

Or on a vehicle supplying the International Space Station.

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1 hour ago, emmawoodhouse said:

I've actually found a few really good LTSs. Tops for under $20. And no! Not that Lisa Rinna foil mess that was a LTS forever.

I bought that shirt. It was actually cute in person. But pilled after a couple of washes. That was my one and only purchase of her line. I think all her stuff is low grade rayon/spandex.

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I’ve never seen or knew there are some items you can’t return or exchange. Such as the Lisa Rinna top. Why is that? I’ve been watching QVC since Day 1 and I’ve never knew that was even a thing. I know things might be limited but why can’t you get your money back if you don’t like it?

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