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Host Andy Cohen sits down with the Shahs who look back at their trip to Israel and reopen old wounds; Asa accuses Mike of being racially insensitive; Asa confronts Mercedes, causing years of conflict to reach a breaking point.

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Whoa, Vida certainly has Asa’s number.

Asa acts like she’s too good for the show, yet if it weren’t for the show Asa wouldn’t have shit.

I hope Asa isn’t on the show anymore, she’s a gross pig, just because she pushed out a baby doesn’t make her the Virgin Mary.

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The brief exchange about Reza's "F- Iran!" was much appreciated by me. IMO, it was something that needed to be discussed, and I'm glad Reza understood & agreed to the tweaking of how it should be said.

And because it simply cannot be said enough: Asa, shut up & go away.

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7 minutes ago, Ubiquitous said:

Was it my TV, or did the cast look like they overdid it with the fake spray on tanner?

Assa is so full of shit.

Who is this Destiny bitch?

I can’t believe that with all the awesomely funny people that were on The People’s Couch, SHE was the one who ended up on an actual reality show (as opposed to an interview show, like the VPR aftershow). She was annoying then, and she’s annoying now.

And to stand out as annoying on THIS show? That’s a real feat.

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Things I do not care about from this season:

  • Sherpa's dating habits
  • How Assa got pregnant
  • How tight Assa is with the Jackson family
  • MJ's use of the term "bastard baby"
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I laughed how Asa said she didn't "talk" the whole season! She needs to rewatch the show, all she did was whine/complain the entire time. Oh, and she never answers a question, she turns it back on the person asking it and she never allows anyone to answer her questions without trying to make herself out to be the victim of all victims.

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Fucking Asa.  She should just not come back next season.  If she doesn't want her personal life on TV she needs to get off the reality TV show she agreed to be on.  I used to really like Asa but the pregnant Asa made me FF through every single one of her scenes.  Pregnant Asa was truly insufferable.  For everyone.

Mike and Shervin and their painted on beards.  Don't know what to say about that.  Looks like they took eyebrow pencil and just went nuts or something.  Loving that Vida and Tommy are getting along so well.  It's nice that they walk their dogs together.  Oh Snap, and Vida just took down Asa in short order.  BWAH AH HA AH HA!

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I only watched bits and pieces this season.  I thought things were becoming too contrived for my tastes, but after the reunion, I may have had a change of heart.  They all seemed honest in their reactions when hearing certain things.  I think they ramp it up for the camera for sure, but I believe the core group is committed to the good, the bad, and the ugly that comes with putting their lives on the show.  That's not to say I like them, though.  The entire cast is a bit shady and and none are couth.

I give them points for being real, though.  Even when they lie, they are being their real shady selves.  And, they give each other the room to make mistakes and make up.  May take awhile, but the sorta get there.

Asa is the worst.  She turned me off way back when she did the diamond water thing.  She's pretentious and thinks she is morally superior.  She's just as shady and uncouth as the rest of them, and her "spirituality" schtick is awful.  She reminds me of Shannon over in the OC.  Both are classic examples of people espousing something they have not achieved themselves.   

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They are ALL repulsive and vulgar - one of the most unlikeable casts on BRAVO - and one of it's worse shows.

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3 hours ago, ivygirl said:

I can’t believe that with all the awesomely funny people that were on The People’s Couch,

THANK YOU!  I could not remember where I saw her from.  What ever happened to The People's couch?

I will just add that these people are too much into each other's lives.

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Thanks to the reunion, I no longer wonder if the editing monkeys were responsible for making Asa look like an egomaniac all season.

It's all on her.

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I still don't care how Asa conceived the baby, whether Shervin cheated and lied about it and if MJ is finally ready to get pregnant. 

Is there any doubt that Asa will not be back next season? 

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I'm not the biggest Asa fan but she really lost me when she intimated Mike was racist for using the term "black" to describe Jermaine.  Homegirl needs to vacate the cross she's been hanging on. 

It's going to be interesting to see how the rest of this reunion plays out with GiGi because she seems to be 100% on Team Asa after getting along very well with the rest of the cast this season. Can't wait to find out what happened to cause this shift. 

Sherv has become so much less likable and that stupid haircut and new fluffy beard aren't helping his cause.  Ugh. 

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44 minutes ago, mytmo said:

Now the Asa believes she is fully ensconced in the Jackson family she no longer needs the unenlightened racist shahs anymore.  Bitch please you haven't even seen Janet's baby yet.  I felt the low level shade from Andy for that reveal.

Confusing - those Jackson babies can’t “grow up together” unless the parents see each other.

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42 minutes ago, mytmo said:

Now the Asa believes she is fully ensconced in the Jackson family she no longer needs the unenlightened racist shahs anymore.  Bitch please you haven't even seen Janet's baby yet.  I felt the low level shade from Andy for that reveal.

Oh that was BRILLIANT stealth shade from Andy; he served her the slowest underhand ever and she gladly took it and ran with it. Love how she tried to save herself by hastily adding, "Jermaine hasn't met the baby yet either!" Bitch be real, you don't fit into that family any more than the housekeeper.

It pains me that Asa bowed out of this season on such a low note because I'd always loved her before this season and found her spacey priestess schtick to be a hilarious alternative to all the gross drunk antics on this show otherwise. Damned shame that she's turned out to be such an insufferable pregnant beast. I'm looking very forward to seeing her explain herself when GG asks her, "Why *are* you on this show anyway?!" We all know Asa is there just to promote her businesses---she couldn't care less about the rest of these fools and finally decided to prove it this season.

Speaking of fools, shutup Mike; shushing down women isn't a good look whatsoever. He and Shervin have finally completed their full evolution into the typical LA Persian douche stereotypes.

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Asa: breastfeeding is so HARD, parenting is so HARD! No longer pregnant, she’s looking for other ways to be coddled - her own mother might be a bit too doting.

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14 minutes ago, esco1822 said:

Sherv has become so much less likable and that stupid haircut and new fluffy beard aren't helping his cause.  Ugh. 

Ditto for Adam, and for that matter, periphery people on these shows, once they get more exposure.

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I've only been a casual viewer this season. Did Andy ask - or did they ever address on the show - whether Asa and Jermaine are even living together?  Last I heard they were not.   

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41 minutes ago, Duke2801 said:

I've only been a casual viewer this season. Did Andy ask - or did they ever address on the show - whether Asa and Jermaine are even living together?  Last I heard they were not.   

I assume it was covered by their in-depth discussion of MJ calling it a "bastard baby" and Assa's loud protestations. I was bored silly by the topic and stopped paying attention.

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1 hour ago, esco1822 said:

I'm not the biggest Asa fan but she really lost me when she intimated Mike was racist for using the term "black" to describe Jermaine.

 I kind of get where Asa was coming from with that. Mike did make a point that it was not acceptable for a Persian to be in an interracial relationship with a black person. Yet, as we can see, I guess it's ok for a Persian to be in a relationship with a white person. Mike/Jessica, Reza/Adam, MJ/Tommy, Shervin/whatshername. Why is that ok in their culture? What he said felt like racism to me, too. FWIW I can't stand Mike, he's the biggest phony of them all and I agree with Shervin when he stated (in a tweet or blog, can't remember) that with two successful brothers,  it must be tough to be the loser of the family. 

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5 minutes ago, TexasGal said:

MJ's hair wig looked pretty.  That's all I got.

Fixed that for ya!  

 

9 minutes ago, Ubiquitous said:

I assume it was covered by their in-depth discussion of MJ calling it a "bastard baby" and Assa's loud protestations. I was bored silly by the topic and stopped paying attention.

I don't recall them discussing it during that fight--but I may have inadvertently zoned out too! 

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12 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

 I kind of get where Asa was coming from with that. Mike did make a point that it was not acceptable for a Persian to be in an interracial relationship with a black person. Yet, as we can see, I guess it's ok for a Persian to be in a relationship with a white person. Mike/Jessica, Reza/Adam, MJ/Tommy, Shervin/whatshername. Why is that ok in their culture? What he said felt like racism to me, too. FWIW I can't stand Mike, he's the biggest phony of them all and I agree with Shervin when he stated (in a tweet or blog, can't remember) that with two successful brothers,  it must be tough to be the loser of the family. 

Mike also brought up, several times, that Jessica being "white" was an issue within their culture as well, so his comment wasn't coming from a "racist" place but from first hand experience IMO. Every single SoS (including Asa) made comments about Jessica as an outsider (aka white/non Persian/converting to Judaism) before she/Mike married. It is strange though that no one has brought up about Tommy being white/non Persian though, maybe they don't think Tommy will marry MJ or that they will have children.

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8 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

Mike also brought up, several times, that Jessica being "white" was an issue within their culture as well, so his comment wasn't coming from a "racist" place but from first hand experience IMO.

I thought it was more the fact that she wasn't Jewish, rather than being white, but I may be wrong.

A little off subject, since I'm on the Mike hate train right now, She converted for him, immersed herself in his culture and learned to cook Persian food because it was important to him. She wanted to make him happy. And the bastard still cheated. Ugh! he is disgusting. 

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33 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

 I kind of get where Asa was coming from with that. Mike did make a point that it was not acceptable for a Persian to be in an interracial relationship with a black person. Yet, as we can see, I guess it's ok for a Persian to be in a relationship with a white person. Mike/Jessica, Reza/Adam, MJ/Tommy, Shervin/whatshername. Why is that ok in their culture? What he said felt like racism to me, too. FWIW I can't stand Mike, he's the biggest phony of them all and I agree with Shervin when he stated (in a tweet or blog, can't remember) that with two successful brothers,  it must be tough to be the loser of the family. 

I was watching with my kid.   She paused the tv and said is that really offensive though....?   I said the weird thing was I can hear it from both sides.  What I thought Mike was trying to say was wrapped up in the larger point of Asa's general nontraditionalism:  are you gonna marry this guy? you've been together for years in this undefined loosey goosey interracial relationship, what are ya'll really doing?  he and Jes,  Adam and Reza and MJ and Tommy were married and/or engaged.   I also think Mike sort of sees himself as the group's de facto voice of his parents' generation at times so he'll bring up what he assumes would concern them.    Your relationship is already different (because he's black) don't make it any harder on your parents by continuing not to give this relationship which is so important some legitimacy.  You have a baby with this man (the only one in the group so far), this isn't how we do things.     I also heard it with Asa's ear.  All of us are with nonPersians, why was that even important enough to make a headline?    He shouldn'tve used the word interracial if what he meant was unconventional. 

 

13 hours ago, ivygirl said:

I can’t believe that with all the awesomely funny people that were on The People’s Couch, SHE was the one who ended up on an actual reality show (as opposed to an interview show, like the VPR aftershow). She was annoying then, and she’s annoying now.

And to stand out as annoying on THIS show? That’s a real feat.

If it helps at all, one of the ladies who used to watch with her friend (I think her name or the friend's name was Julie) - they'd watch in a cute bungalow with potato chip stealing chihuahuas lol - I saw her on the season premiere of Curb your Enthusiasm.   She's a single Persian living in LA so Destiny kind of makes sense as a fit, but I'm with you, I don't think she's necessary either.    p.s. when they were talking about the chemistry between her and Mike, was that a huh? for anyone else?

 

When Vida said MJ wasn't planned sue me, I giggled at her discomfort.   Don't call another woman's baby a bastard, you won't find out in public and on tv that you were a surprise. 

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8 minutes ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

When Vida said MJ wasn't planned sue me, I giggled at her discomfort.   Don't call another woman's baby a bastard, you won't find out in public and on tv that you were a surprise. 

What is wrong with these people? So what MJ wasn't planned. How many couples get pregnant without planning and are thrilled when they find out? I know this is cold as ice Vide we're talking about, but she never once said MJ was a "mistake" . Reza had to add that hurtful little nugget in to the conversation.  They are all just horrible, horrible people. 

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17 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

What is wrong with these people? So what MJ wasn't planned. How many couples get pregnant without planning and are thrilled when they find out? I know this is cold as ice Vide we're talking about, but she never once said MJ was a "mistake" . Reza had to add that hurtful little nugget in to the conversation.  They are all just horrible, horrible people. 

I agree Vida was married and it might have not been planned but it doesnt mean it's a mistake.  However considering how mean Vida can be I think that is just how everyone read it.

I'm not shocked Vida has grown to like Tommy, he is an ogre but damn if he isn't the best thing that has happened to MJ. If you were just to look at him quickly you would think she was too good for him, but Nope Tommy is a great catch for someone like MJ.  I think he just doesnt GAF what Vida has to say, and I think Vida needs that. 

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21 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

What is wrong with these people? So what MJ wasn't planned. How many couples get pregnant without planning and are thrilled when they find out? I know this is cold as ice Vide we're talking about, but she never once said MJ was a "mistake" . Reza had to add that hurtful little nugget in to the conversation.  They are all just horrible, horrible people. 

yeah it landed like a big ole bag of so what? to me too but I loved it for how MJ took it. 

I thought Reza's comment (to Vida) was what to say for it not to have sounded insulting.  I mean, in terms of pregnancy, surprise and mistake can sound pretty close.  I think his point was well damn girl you could've at least cleaned it up with:  you weren't planned but were wanted. 

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You have to love the editors who cut together the preview that made it appear that MJ left crying when Tommy said he liked Vida more than MJ but actually she just left to get a shot and chomp on a cucumber.

I cannotdeal with another season of MJ trying for a baby. 

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1 hour ago, bichonblitz said:

I thought it was more the fact that she wasn't Jewish, rather than being white, but I may be wrong.

A little off subject, since I'm on the Mike hate train right now, She converted for him, immersed herself in his culture and learned to cook Persian food because it was important to him. She wanted to make him happy. And the bastard still cheated. Ugh! he is disgusting. 

It was both. I will say that none of the SoS said anything with malice about Jessica not being either Jewish or Persian though, including Asa and I don't think Mike's comment to Asa was malicious either.

Yes, Mike was/is an ass for what he did to Jessica, she was/is too good for him!

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2 hours ago, TexasGal said:

MJ's hair looked pretty.  That's all I got.

I was too distracted by her excessive tanner.

 

2 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Mike also brought up, several times, that Jessica being "white" was an issue within their culture as well, so his comment wasn't coming from a "racist" place but from first hand experience IMO. Every single SoS (including Asa) made comments about Jessica as an outsider (aka white/non Persian/converting to Judaism) before she/Mike married. It is strange though that no one has brought up about Tommy being white/non Persian though, maybe they don't think Tommy will marry MJ or that they will have children.

I rolled my eyes at all this pearl-clutching about "racism" when we've seen them all makes comments about their interactions with "whites" for the past six seasons.

37 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

You have to love the editors who cut together the preview that made it appear that MJ left crying when Tommy said he liked Vida more than MJ but actually she just left to get a shot and chomp on a cucumber.

I felt a little cheated, to be honest, but now I question the footage which seems to indicate Reza routinely cheats on Adam.

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12 minutes ago, Ubiquitous said:

I felt a little cheated, to be honest, but now I question the footage which seems to indicate Reza routinely cheats on Adam.

There's an extended preview of that scene about Reza and Adam on the Bravo website if you care to see it. 

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4 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

 I kind of get where Asa was coming from with that. Mike did make a point that it was not acceptable for a Persian to be in an interracial relationship with a black person. Yet, as we can see, I guess it's ok for a Persian to be in a relationship with a white person. Mike/Jessica, Reza/Adam, MJ/Tommy, Shervin/whatshername. Why is that ok in their culture? What he said felt like racism to me, too. FWIW I can't stand Mike, he's the biggest phony of them all and I agree with Shervin when he stated (in a tweet or blog, can't remember) that with two successful brothers,  it must be tough to be the loser of the family. 

Yeah, I saw it the same way. Idk , if Mike is a racist, but that sounded  like bigotry to me. 

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7 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Mike also brought up, several times, that Jessica being "white" was an issue within their culture as well, so his comment wasn't coming from a "racist" place but from first hand experience IMO. Every single SoS (including Asa) made comments about Jessica as an outsider (aka white/non Persian/converting to Judaism) before she/Mike married. It is strange though that no one has brought up about Tommy being white/non Persian though, maybe they don't think Tommy will marry MJ or that they will have children.

I think that Asa's point was that while they are mostly involved in inter-racial relationships, Mike made a point to ask the question in a "let's have a sharing moment to educate everyone" about her relationship rather than raising it as an issue that all of them have had to deal with. She was the only one that was "othered" while the perception could be that inter-racial relationships with whites were perfectly acceptable.

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9 minutes ago, Rlb8031 said:

I think that Asa's point was that while they are mostly involved in inter-racial relationships, Mike made a point to ask the question in a "let's have a sharing moment to educate everyone" about her relationship rather than raising it as an issue that all of them have had to deal with. She was the only one that was "othered" while the perception could be that inter-racial relationships with whites were perfectly acceptable.

If that was Asa's point then she is playing games (aka lying) because they all talked about Jessica being "white" for several season, including Asa herself. Mike did talk about the problems Jessica faced within their community as a "white/non Persian" woman and a "non Jew" when they were dating and how she would still face it even after converting to Judaism. He talked about it in his TH and with the others on camera, only Asa has avoided the subject because she doesn't share her real life at all.

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2 hours ago, WireWrap said:

If that was Asa's point then she is playing games (aka lying) because they all talked about Jessica being "white" for several season, including Asa herself. Mike did talk about the problems Jessica faced within their community as a "white/non Persian" woman and a "non Jew" when they were dating and how she would still face it even after converting to Judaism. He talked about it in his TH and with the others on camera, only Asa has avoided the subject because she doesn't share her real life at all.

I just watched that part of the reunion again.  

Mike was asking Asa why didn't she talk about her relationship.  Yes, Mike, MJ, Reza, Shervin are with white people, but those relationships are on the show.  I took it as Mike saying, "Hey Asa, you're with a black man; many Persians don't go out with black people, that would be an interesting relationship to see on the show."  There was a lot of talk about Jessica not being Persian, not being Jewish; and we, the audience saw her conversion process, which I thought was real cool, would have been better had Mike not cheated.  

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Methinks Asa doth protest with every blink of an eye! So Mike committed racism by bringing up Jermaine being black? Anything to make herself as much of put upon princess as possible. If someone pointed at me and said I was white would that be racism too? And I look like a ghost so do the math.

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13 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

 I kind of get where Asa was coming from with that. Mike did make a point that it was not acceptable for a Persian to be in an interracial relationship with a black person. Yet, as we can see, I guess it's ok for a Persian to be in a relationship with a white person. Mike/Jessica, Reza/Adam, MJ/Tommy, Shervin/whatshername. Why is that ok in their culture? What he said felt like racism to me, too. FWIW I can't stand Mike, he's the biggest phony of them all and I agree with Shervin when he stated (in a tweet or blog, can't remember) that with two successful brothers,  it must be tough to be the loser of the family. 

Mike didn't say, ever, that he agrees with it being taboo, he was simply acknowledging that it is considered a big deal in their culture. Why on earth is that a bad thing to acknowledge? Pointing out racism and wanting to talk about it makes you racist now? 

I can only handle tommy in limited doses but damn if he and vida aren't cute together 

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Why does Asa's baby need to come to the studio to physically breastfeed.  The hell?  Has Asa never heard of a breast pump?  Breast milk via a baby bottle once in awhile?  Switching off is good for the baby otherwise Asa will have a nightmare on her hands when her baby refuses the bottle, preferring 100% of the time feeding via an actual breast.  No ma'am.  

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Reza can shave his mustache and lose all the weight he wants, but it's still putting lipstick on a pig. 

When GG is the cast member you're rooting for the most, boy, have times changed.

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Decent. Looking forward to the 2nd part.

I used to kinda like Asa and her Pop Princess schtick but OMG...You are NOT the only woman who ever got pregnant! Yes it's HARD> File that one under No shit, Sherlock.  

Liked Tommy and Vida being friends. I think he's as God awful as MJ but it was cute. Good thing he likes Vida cos I guarantee if he married MJ he will be living with Vida 2.0 24/7 as I think she's just as nasty as her Mom. 

Reza looked good. Like a 1940s movie star....Much better.

Who the hell says "bastard" in 2017??? That is just ignorant. 

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I am with everyone that Asa is a phony pretentious fraud, but I seem to be on a different planet with my other takes!  First, I really like Mike.  Haven't liked him much past seasons, but I see him as the calmest voice of reason among the bunch.  Then I thought about it and realized that this is the first season he hasn't been with Jessica and maybe she was reason he was such a dick before.  I know I am sitting alone with this opinion, but I do not get the love everyone is giving Jessica!  I cannot stand her.  The impression I got from her from day one was that all she wanted was to get married, ie have a wedding.  Sure she coverted, but she knew she had to to get that ring & wedding.  There is no way she didn't know Mike was a cheater long before they got married.  The whole season before last was about GG accusing Mike of trying to sleep with her and her and GG going at it all the time and now they are best buddies?  Please.  Jessica demanded that Mike drop all his friends for her.  Weren't Reza & MJ the only ones invited to the wedding??  Yes, Mike cheated, which I do not condone at all, but Jessica was no angel, and I think she was only in it for the engagement/and OTT wedding.

Also, as far as the Vida "MJ was unplanned" revelation, well to me that explains A LOT about the dynamic between Vida & MJ.  I absolutely think she stopped short of saying mistake, but her actions sure say to me that that is how she feels and explains why she disappeared with her BF and left MJ with her dad.  I have always felt like Vida resented MJ and was always cutting her down now it makes sense to me.  I have always had a soft spot for MJ and I wish that she and Tommy would marry and then he takes her back to NY to live and get her away from Vida who I believe is the root of all MJs problems.  Of course now that Vida and Tommy are getting along he probably won't  I just really feel like they need to keep any baby they have far far away from Vida!

I liked Shervin last season, but boy he is a prick this season!  Mike & Reza were on WWHL last week and Mike said Shervin is a big fraud and Reza was dying when he said it.  I wonder if the reasons why will eventually come out.....other than the fact that he is a womanizer!  I also do not believe for one second what Shervin said that he didn't reveal open relationship because Annalise asked him not to because of her reputation?  Makes no sense and makes her look worse!! 

I just cuz I can't say it enough......Asa is a fake fraud!!!!  Oh...and how's it working out Asa now that you are such a part of music royalty Jackson family?  you are such a big part that you haven't even met Janet's baby yet.....and neither has Janet's brother!!!  lmao 

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On 10/23/2017 at 1:49 PM, Ubiquitous said:

I felt a little cheated, to be honest, but now I question the footage which seems to indicate Reza routinely cheats on Adam.

I thought it indicated that Adam & Reza have an open relationship, so there's no cheating.

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On 10/23/2017 at 9:22 AM, esco1822 said:

Sherv has become so much less likable and that stupid haircut and new fluffy beard aren't helping his cause.  Ugh.

He's pretty much a story-less meathead.  

On 10/23/2017 at 9:22 AM, esco1822 said:

I'm not the biggest Asa fan but she really lost me when she intimated Mike was racist for using the term "black" to describe Jermaine.  Homegirl needs to vacate the cross she's been hanging on

Yes!  When the use of the word black is considered racist, we have lost ourselves more than I thought.

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