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10 hours ago, Bellalisa said:

My other observation is that they both could have learned to speak the languages with that app. If every time they type a sentence, they make the other repeat the original  a few times while reading what they typed, they could learn a lot.  It seems like Pole could have picked up a shitload of Portuguese and vice versa. Except his English is so bad. It would be hard to "repeat after me". 

How did they even talk online? I don't get it.

Karine seemed to do that quite a bit.  And every once in awhile she would speak in english without it or we didn't see her use it before saying short sentences.  Like at the airport she grabbed his hand and said "let's go".  So either she picked up english really freaking quick or she knows more than she lets on.  

10 hours ago, Bellalisa said:

Also I think Darcey is kind of cute in her own way.  Her boyfriend is too rigid. He is all wrong for her. I don't know that she could easily find a man though. It is hard for a single woman with kids in her 40's to find a decent man. Match.com is not as great as married/coupled people seem to think it is.

And according to my co-worker - there's a lot of fake profiles.  

10 hours ago, HappyDancex2 said:

I thought that was the house he was flipping (in progress?!)  It had tons of weird construction material everywhere.

It is, he bought a run down house to remodel and he's living in it.   Not sure why people keep commenting on him living in a dump and being surprised.  In his very first episode he said that's exactly what he's doing. 

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9 hours ago, Desert Rat said:

Karine had to say"Yes", to save her village from destruction by arson fire. She now knows the truth about Pole. 

My morning laugh!! Spilled coffee all over keyboard... but thanks!!

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10 hours ago, Splithair said:

I met my spouse on match.com. ?

These two have a very odd dynamic in their relationship. He is so much younger, yet I get this weird daddy vibe from him, like he is setting limits on her behavior for her own good or something. I also find it weird that he keeps telling her he's proud of her and that she's grown. Something is just off there.

I met my spouse on Match.com too -- we just celebrated our 15 year anniversary!  However....I think Match (or the people on it, or what they are looking for) is different now than it was, 15 years ago.

10 hours ago, Splithair said:

I met my spouse on match.com. ?

These two have a very odd dynamic in their relationship. He is so much younger, yet I get this weird daddy vibe from him, like he is setting limits on her behavior for her own good or something. I also find it weird that he keeps telling her he's proud of her and that she's grown. Something is just off there.

I know I keep saying it...but I think it's a D/s relationship (Dominant, submissive).  Makes perfect sense when you look at it that way.

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10 hours ago, IAmJ said:

Right?! This was my laugh-out-loud moment of the episode. Sweetie, you're a 3 on a good day.

Hell, Jenny's only a 3 depending on the number of drinks I"ve consumed.

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I think Abby is calculating.  She's attractive, smart and will do very well in the States once she gets employment after the required length of time.  She won't need Sean for long.  Jenny will also be fine.  As drippy as he seems, I think Larry will care for her.  It's Kreeny I worry about.  Not just the language barrier.  Paul is scary and weird.  Hope she stays in close contact with her family.

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Antonio doesn't meet Corny at the airport when she arrives and doesn't go with her when she departs. Yes, Corny, you have a beautiful future with Antonio. 

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9 hours ago, ava111 said:

Abby couldn't be possibly less convincing trying to tell us how much she loves Sean. There was no light in her eyes, she was trying to convince herself too but it's impossible as she loves Chris not Sean. She is not good enough at pretending emotions. You can read her like a book. If Sean doesn't see it it's because he chose not to see it. Sean will forever be just her ticket out of Haiti. Now back to finish the episode...

And, the way her eyes were darting around when she was answering his questions in the restaurant...

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For every happy Match.com story there are 1000 failures. I'm sure Darcy has tried it. Match these days is full of predators and guys that just want sex chat.

Sean is living in a house he is flipping. If you look in the background, the rooms that are finished look beautiful. They keep showing him in unfinished rooms.  I was hoping they would show the living room which looked really nice. It is in the background in a few shots. Most likely the light was wrong for filming, so he was in the room with the construction materials. 

Interesting comments on getting all those clothes in through customs. Maybe they turn a blind eye to Americans entering Haiti because the people need everything.  As far as cost of goods sold and Sean making any kind of profit, I just don't see how. He gets a pair of  $25 shoes on clearance for $8 and she sells them for $8 in Haiti, which is a lot of money in Haiti.

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12 hours ago, Bellalisa said:

 

I don' understand how Sean is calling this clothes thing a business.

 

I bet he didn't call it that in customs.  Those of us who have traveled internationalyl know how unbelievable this whole scenario is.  It looked like the items still had tags on them, so they were obviously new and would have had to be declared.  If he declared "300 pairs of women's panties," it would have been noticed.  

Further to your post, as you point out it could not be a successful business.  It makes no sense economically.  

2 minutes ago, Bellalisa said:

Sean is living in a house he is flipping. If you look in the background, the rooms that are finished look beautiful. They keep showing him in unfinished rooms.  I was hoping they would show the living room which looked really nice. It is in the background in a few shots. Most likely the light was wrong for filming, so he was in the room with the construction materials. 

I know that is the story, but the rooms they've shown him in have been dreadful, and I watched as they showed him leaving the house.  To me, it looks more like a place someone intended to flip, years ago.  I don't believe much on this show.  

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4 minutes ago, Bellalisa said:

He gets a pair of  $25 shoes on clearance for $8 and she sells them for $8 in Haiti, which is a lot of money in Haiti.

In that scenario it would be the equivalent of him giving her $8, except of course for his time and the joy he gets from shopping for women's shoes and clothes.  I doubt he breaks even, and I also doubt he would be allowed through customs unmolested.  The customs officers are relatively poor, too, and customs officers are not known for their leniency.  

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The whole thing is crazy! He is definitely not making any money. I guess he calls it  "our business venture" because SHE has a business, getting clothes to resell from all of her boy toys. His part in the business is that he is her supplier.  And now he has been shown on TV bringing goods for resale into Haiti. So he really does not have an alibi.

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9 hours ago, Hellohappylife said:

How is Jenny a 10?

Well, in Larry's eyes she's a 10 but since he considers himself a 5, I think both numbers are inflated. 

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9 hours ago, Hellohappylife said:

Sean probably paid more baggage fees for all of that cheap rue21 clothes he brought to Haiti then Abby will even profit

Anything Abby makes selling clothes donated by Sean, Chris or another Sugar Daddy will be  profit for HER! 

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He is a 2. She is higher than that for sure. She is a 2-face though. Sometimes she is pretty sometimes she is scary looking. I think it is her satan teeth. As long as she keeps her mouth closed, she can look pretty. Lol. Cracking myself up.

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3 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said:
5 minutes ago, magemaud said:

Well, in Larry's eyes she's a 10 but since he considers himself a 5, I think both numbers are inflated. 

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Exactly, and it's a beautiful thing

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12 hours ago, Bellalisa said:

Also I think Darcey is kind of cute in her own way an 800-year-old vampire kind of way.  Her boyfriend is too rigid. He is all wrong for her. I don't know that she could easily find a man though. It is hard for a single woman succubus with kids in her 840's to find a decent man. Match.com is not as great for 840-year-old witches as married/coupled people seem to think it is.

There we go! Now with more Halloween flair! (And much more accurate, too, in order to highlight the disservice that all her fillers and whatever are doing for her. Once she stops that, she'll look much better and more human.)

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2 hours ago, gunderda said:

And according to my co-worker - there's a lot of fake profiles.  

"Someone I know" found this comment very funny.

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40 minutes ago, Former Nun said:

"Someone I know" found this comment very funny.

I swear it really was my co-worker! lol  She went on match, was bound and determined to at least get 3 dates out of it.  She found it to be a lot harder than she thought as well.  She actually did get a boyfriend out of it.. lasted on and off for maybe a year... so she tried match again because she was still paying for it and didn't want to just waste her money.  In the end she gave up. For now.  

However I think I have come across fake profiles too. I haven't used it in years because I did a lot of online dating when I was a lot younger so I'm just kind of tired of it.. but I joined match (freebie profile, not pay) and I was getting messages from guys I would be interested in.  Actually paid for like a 3 month membership, found those guys and messaged them and never heard from them.  Totally convinced they were fake to tempt me into paying so that i could try and respond to them lol 

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14 hours ago, Sprockets said:

It's his anchor luggage, full of WW2 surplus survival gear and condoms for the penis fish.  

Without context, this sentence is pretty great.  That also goes for most of your replies, tbh, and if there isn't a Sprockets Without Context twitter account, there should be.  

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2 hours ago, Pondlass1 said:

I think Abby is calculating.  She's attractive, smart and will do very well in the States once she gets employment after the required length of time.  She won't need Sean for long.  Jenny will also be fine.  As drippy as he seems, I think Larry will care for her.  It's Kreeny I worry about.  Not just the language barrier.  Paul is scary and weird.  Hope she stays in close contact with her family.

I agree with this. Larry is not the sharpest knife in the drawer but he seems kind. I think he and Jenny could have a tolerable life together. She doesn't seem to have very high expectations, doesn't expect a mansion or designer handbags. She'll go to school and get a job as a CNA or a bookkeeper, they could do just fine.

Abby is plenty smart, but young. She'll need to learn a few things the hard way, but if she gets to the US I don't doubt she'll own her own business before she's 30. She's ambitious. Once she sorts out her ridiculous triangle she will go places.

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3 hours ago, Pondlass1 said:

Karine had to say"Yes", to save her village from destruction by arson fire. She now knows the truth about Pole. 

Love it!!

Most awkward moment award goes to ...... Kareeney!!

43 minutes ago, ALittleShelfish said:

It's his anchor luggage, full of WW2 surplus survival gear and condoms for the penis fish.  

He also keeps bits of hair and skin from former girlfriends and his Mom.

He has a special one for people at work who made fun of him- also has some Fava beans in there.

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When they were in the car going to the airport, I noticed Paul looking up at her head and I was thinking oh no, he's looking at her hair! He's going to ask for some! And he did! Well, he didn't ask first, did he? He just tried to yank it out. Omg, he's got a hair fetish or something! What good are a few strands of hair? They're going to get lost easily. If he was smart he would have asked Karine to snip off a lock or small piece way before leaving for the airport. I mean, if you want the hair that bad. I never wanted somebody's hair and I've been obsessed with a few guys in the past. We did have a locket from my great grandmother or so, it had hair tied up inside it, it was a "thing" back in the day.

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5 hours ago, tincansailor981 said:

She's totally lost in her own illusions.  Girlfriend needs to get a grip and move on.  There are many young, willing 50 Shades of Grey types here in the U.S. who would gladly dominate her ass.  It's a closer and much cheaper option in the long run instead of flying to Europe to be with a dude sporting a projector screen forehead.

 

You're right, there is no light on because no one is home.  She could give two shits less about Sean; he's just a means to an end.  As creepy as it sounds and is, Scabby's heart belongs to here granddaddy/lover, Chris, with whom she is still sharing scabies.

 

Let's recap:  1) Mr. Slick didn't meet her at the airport and left her standing in the hot sun for hours waiting for him in a foreign country 2) immediately took her to a beauty pageant, still sweaty and nasty from a long flight, day in the sun 3) stared at other women while in her company, most notably a waitresses ass 4) left her alone in an apartment with no air conditioning for a full 24 hours  and 5) didn't take her to the airport for her return flight to the U.S..  Corny, you are one dumb ass woman.  I certainly hope this is the end of you and the 41 year old gigolo

She needs to read that best seller "He's Just Not That Into You!"

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1 hour ago, ALittleShelfish said:

. . .if there isn't a Sprockets Without Context twitter account, there should be.  

Merci beaucoup, but it is a condition of my parole that I not tweet.  

53 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

She needs to read that best seller "He's Just Not That Into You!"

You want her to read a whole book?  You are cruel.  

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15 hours ago, sainte-chapelle said:

There is something seriously wrong with that man, he seems like a very controlling person with deep seated anger issues.

Right. He doesn't seem like a nice person. He went right in on her when she was drunk, threatening to start "drama" bc he know she loves it.

15 hours ago, Sprockets said:

That's what he claims, but all the interior shots of his house make it apparent he's living in a dump.  Also, it,s the wrong real estate market, in Ohio at least, for successful flipping.  

Is it the military thing or the steroids?  

I was a houseflipper in Ohio and I did great. Now I'm just holding some as rental property. I haven't bought any in a few years but I think the market is still good.

 

15 hours ago, Bellalisa said:

Also I think Darcey is kind of cute in her own way.  Her boyfriend is too rigid. He is all wrong for her. I don't know that she could easily find a man though. It is hard for a single woman with kids in her 40's to find a decent man. Match.com is not as great as married/coupled people seem to think it is.

I met my ex-husband on match, too. I think it's still the best of the bunch for those looking for something serious.

 

14 hours ago, beesknees said:

My question is sort of stupid but how is Sean getting all those goods into Haiti without Customs shutting that @#$% down?  You cannot just go into a foreign country with 3 thousand pairs of undies or 200 purses or pairs of shoes and not have to fill out massive paperwork for an importing/exporting business.

Customs in the Caribbean tends to be pretty lax for Americans. But idk about such an obvious haul.

 

14 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

She just really really wants the relationship to work and is incredibly lonely. Her kids are getting older, her ex is way gone, and she needs a purpose. She poured her heart out as well, and that takes guts. I hope she finds true love. 

But she lives w/ her identical twin sister and all of their kids. Are twins ever lonely together?? I know a man is different. I agree she is cute and it would be easy for her to meet a guy locally.

13 hours ago, Hellohappylife said:

How is Jenny a 10? Her bone structure in her face seems off and she looks way older then 23. 

If she just would have gotten braces as a child, all that could have been fixed. She can still fix those fangs but she's too old for braces to move her jawline. Her sister was prettier but Jenny's OK, I guess.

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"I have heard about this practice. It is most likely one of their countrymen who is turning these donations into a business. That person probably justifies it as "putting food on their table," but is invariably taking it off of someone else's. There is a way to stop it however. Due to this I have recently only donated to charities that I know directly distribute to the people recieving the benefits. The next step is education, this is a harder issue, because in many countries (the US included) the government doesn't want the people to know."

Hummm could this be donated clothing that Sean is bringing to Abby to sell?  I googled around and it seems that happens a lot in Haiti.  I know some of the clothing had tags but I think that happens.  I also know you can buy really cheap things on Ebay shipped from China.

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5 hours ago, Drogo said:

I believe that was "An Appreciation Ring." 

Also known as "A Promise To Do Nothing Ring", "A Commitment To Nothing Ring" and/or a "Thanks For Playing Ring."

I just re-watched the rather cruel fake out Non-Proposal and Jesse definitely called it "An Appreciation Ring" to which she replied, "Oh, a PROMISE ring!" (shades of 8th grade) and now in her eyes, it's morphed into a "Commitment ring." Darcey is wearing his ratty military jacket like a varsity letter sweater while giggling "This will be my last name!" Later she's the definition of "ugly crying" at the airport, while I think Jesse is "fake crying" and can't wait until she turns the corner out of sight. Buh-bye

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8 hours ago, Sprockets said:

Hitler Youth.  

OMG! Every time I see him on screen, that is exactly what I think. In fact, I even sing "I am sixteen going on seventeen" in my head because he reminds me of Rolf from The Sound Of Music, lol.

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ETA: Not sure, but the above pic may be one of the Von Trapp kids and not Rolf, but they look similar enough. :-)

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Don't forget that the tell all  is on tonight at 8 ET. My DVR says it is a 2 hour reunion. TLC better not try to pull a fast one and insert an hour of some BS show they are trying to market. 

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5 hours ago, MrSmith said:

There we go! Now with more Halloween flair! (And much more accurate, too, in order to highlight the disservice that all her fillers and whatever are doing for her. Once she stops that, she'll look much better and more human.)

I am sometimes so thankful to be on a board where people I've never met continue to keep me entertained and make me laugh.  Thank you Mr. Smith!

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17 hours ago, AZChristian said:

We're watching the World Series, and will catch up with 90-Day franchise stuff tomorrow.  But in reading about the hair incident, I wonder if Karine and Abby are communicating in real life, and Karine will send the hair to Abby so she can take it to the voodoo lady and have a Paul voodoo doll made.

Unexplained sharp pains in Paul's nether regions will be the proof!

Yes. No ordinary condom can stop penis fish bites by voodoo.

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1 hour ago, Jeanne222 said:

"I have heard about this practice. It is most likely one of their countrymen who is turning these donations into a business. That person probably justifies it as "putting food on their table," but is invariably taking it off of someone else's. There is a way to stop it however. Due to this I have recently only donated to charities that I know directly distribute to the people recieving the benefits. The next step is education, this is a harder issue, because in many countries (the US included) the government doesn't want the people to know."

Hummm could this be donated clothing that Sean is bringing to Abby to sell?  I googled around and it seems that happens a lot in Haiti.  I know some of the clothing had tags but I think that happens.  I also know you can buy really cheap things on Ebay shipped from China.

This is what I was going to say. You can buy a clothing or accessories haul/lot on eBay for $1-10. Then you break it up and sell each item with a 60% markup. That's how people make money in the US anyway. I'm sure they could do the same on the islands, if they can get the stuff there.

Either Abby or someone here said that Haitians are willing to pay top dollar once they hear the merchandise is straight from the US. This makes me sad about Abby though because it means that she is participating in ripping off her own less wealthy countrymen. And a lot of the stuff people buy in lot sales is damaged, so it's even more disheartening.

I can't help it, I still have a soft spot for Abby. I imagine at some point she was a really sweet girl but then she ended up dealing with old men who said they cared about her but gave her nothing but panties and scabies. Her attitude is the result of crappy treatment. I seriously can not believe those two men let her sit around with an infection while they argued about who could monopolize her the most. So gross.

I also don't think Jenny is unattractive. These women do not have the beauty tools that westerns have and they still look better or just as good as the Americans. Although I think both Cortney and Darcy could look very attractive if they had less spackle. I actually think if Karine had clear skin, she would kind of look like Brazilian VS Model Lais Ribeiro.

Lais

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3 hours ago, chickenella said:

If he was smart he would have asked Karine to snip off a lock or small piece way before leaving for the airport.

Or clean out the hotel drain before they left.  (I admit I stole this idea from a previous poster* and I'm sorry I don't remember who it is).

*The poster suggested that's where Pole's mother got the hair she gave to him in the Kleenex wad.

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2 hours ago, poeticlicensed said:

Don't forget that the tell all  is on tonight at 8 ET. My DVR says it is a 2 hour reunion. TLC better not try to pull a fast one and insert an hour of some BS show they are trying to market. 

*runs around flapping arms and screaming*

Not sure I can handle it !!

May need some wine!

47 minutes ago, lids said:

I also don't think Jenny is unattractive.

I think she is more like 33 and not in her 20's.

Those pictures of her that he had do not even look like the same person.

Maybe they pulled a fast one on Larry and Bozo didnt catch on.

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In thinking about Abby and the clothes that Sean brings and the "business" that she will continue with Chris, I was wondering if Chris asked her how she got her money and supported herself and she just said she had a clothing business with Chris and then Sean started sending her clothing items.  A sharp-eyed post above noticed that Abby was using a purse that Sean sent to her; maybe she has no intent to sell the clothes.  Maybe she just didn't want to tell Sean what her real business is...

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8 hours ago, sasha206 said:

Does Shawn Robinson eat?  She looks like a skeleton with a wig on in the upcoming reunion previews.

Agreed!   Hubby and I were commenting on the previews.  And the cameras add pounds!

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1 hour ago, calpurnia99 said:

 

Dat eye makeup!

 

It's a problem with the left eye.  The eye socket actually looks much smaller than the right one.  No one's eyes are exactly the same size, and one eye is usually a bit lower than the other, but this is severe.  

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I finally figured out who Pole reminds me of, Jen from the Little Couple. They have the same toothy grin, and the same laugh! (That's where the similarities end, no offense to Jen).

I was so excited when Karine said no, but then of course she said yes. Living in a small Brazilian village must really suck, I get that. I just wish there was some way to a better life than moving to Kentucky with Pole. 

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1 minute ago, EastCoast4Life said:

I just wish there was some way to a better life than moving to Kentucky with Pole. 

That's just Phase 1.  

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5 minutes ago, Sprockets said:

It's a problem with the left eye.  The eye socket actually looks much smaller than the right one.  No one's eyes are exactly the same size, and one eye is usually a bit lower than the other, but this is severe.  

Hubby and I were commenting on her spackle, uh I mean makeup process. 

Now, I wear makeup.  Powder, eyeshadow, mascara etc.  Takes me 3 minutes to do my face. And I am not a natural beauty. 

Seems like her makeup process takes forever.  While he watches!!

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